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....it was just shit. Drop the crazy. I like my happy place just fine. And yes alvarhanso. Stop motion is a dying art. I latch onto every one I can find. Meticulous and wonderous.

Similar setlists for sure, and I'm not so fond of 22, but 26 is a completely different animal. Much better main show and bonus. The two Other Ones are massively different (hell, the two halves of Other Ones on 11/17/71 are incredibly different from each other with that fantastic Me & My Uncle jam in the second half and Feelin' Groovy in the first, along with at least 3 other distinct jams). Also, some of us didn't like the shows chosen for 22, as 12/4 & 5 are almost universally more highly regarded, and both circulate in good FM SBDs, which is probably why they chose the lesser knowns. 26 is a great offering in giving an opportunity to directly compare the sound of the band with just Keith, then adding Pigpen, kind of like Dave's 6 with Pigpen and Pigpen and TC. I'm avoiding wading back into the sound/performance debate on this Pick again, I've made my points on that, and I'm happy for those who are ecstatic with this release. It won't get many listens for me probably, but I'm okay with that, I have 26 other Dave's, 36 Dick's, and a bunch of box sets, and other officially released shows, so I'm perfectly fine with it just sitting there making the collection pretty. ETA: Vguy did you see Fantastic Mr Fox as well? I'm a sucker for Wes Anderson, and Isle of Dogs didn't disappoint for me at all. Also, the Bob, Brent, Billy, Mickey Jam leading into Drums and the Space afterward are high points on this release.

....Wes Anderson is my spirit animal. Coraline is another treasure. It's not Anderson, but it's a high water mark.

....me too. Tonight I'm spinning RT 4.5. Lounge Dead to some. To me it's just the GOGD."Sleepy fire in your eyes. Is that desire in disguise?" Coitus anyone? I've had girlfriends and a current wife who pull that string. Shazam!! ....edit. The Dancin' is worth ones attention. Pull out your Boston Road Trips, check your disco at the door, and crank that shit!

I just earned a new respect for you, Vguy. Salut.

...go for the juggler!;o)

....that the RT 4.5 release features a Franklin's encore? G'night.looks like jrf snagged that awesome days between artwork. I love it. Can I get it on a flag?

I got it from an e-mail from dead.net that came in today. Check your e-mail.:o)

....I got it in my email. I asked if I could get it on a flag. I would buy it.

oops...

Just a reminder that as of this morning, August 2nd, a certain huge sales website that starts with the letter A and rhymes with Jam-a-thon still has new copies of Dave's Picks 20, 22, 24, and 25 available in limited quantities for their original price. If you missed any of these on their respective release dates, you can get a surplus copy while they last.

I’m with you on this, alvarhanso, I love 26 and think it’s a really awesome set- with the jams of course and the Keith, Pig Pen variation. But looking at the two together leaves me scratching my head. That said, I’m definitely not in the ecstatic about this release lot. 83/84 is/was long due, but there are better ones, to be sure. As I mentioned before, that June 83 run is a beast- but Dave mentioned (even in the liner notes) the problem with those. I am, however, happy with this one. Where does 28 go from here? Hmm.

Anyone go last night? how was it? what was the box set reveal like?

I had a really good time last night. I know this show is available on DVD but its a great show and its fun watching it on the big screen with good sound. All my friends are lame so I went by myself this year...but I still felt right at home in many ways. Everyone was all smiles and some young ladies were dancing in the aisles and everyone cheering and applauding after each song. Not a bad way to spend a Wednesday night.

at my theater, there was no box reveal. there was a trivia loop prior to the show (e.g., "who was the only female member of the GD?"), but nothing else.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/219620919300873833/ But in the 70's it was Donna.

I grabbed 20, 22. Crazy what the older ones are going for... Surplus copy?

I am perhaps speculating when I use the phrase "surplus copy." My assumption is that batches of extra CDs above and beyond the limited release number are produced for each Dave's Picks for replacements/shipping losses/defects and that these are now being sold to clean house. #14 sold out after a day or two and #22 looks to sell out today. I suspect the remaining 3 (20, 24, 25) are going to be gone sooner rather than later. Again, just educated guesses.

Interesting, I missed out on 14. I will have to keep my eyes out..

...even after several times through. Assholes want to take their digs at me for expressing my enjoyment....that's their problem and I could care less.

Did all of you posting about this release the past few days pay for express shipping or something? I didn't get mine yet :-( Waited and watched for mailman like I was expecting Mailorder tickets back in the day LOL... but no... just bills and solicitations. Bummer... iG

Did all of you posting about this release the past few days pay for express shipping or something? I didn't get mine yet :-( Waited and watched for mailman like I was expecting Mailorder tickets back in the day LOL... but no... just bills and solicitations. Bummer... iG

To answer your question I did regular delivery. My email said the 31st but it got here on the 30th. I'm in the SF Bay area

with all due respect to Bobby...lol... I was afraid of a wardrobe malfunction moment watching 7/7/89 last night.

My appreciation actually went up the 2nd listening

So now that I've had a chance to do a couple more listen throughs of DP 27 I'm liking it more and more. Yes, the vocals are overriding the instruments more than I'd like. I do like the quicker tempo on some of the tunes. This is a time capsule of the only concert the Dead ever played in Idaho. It's from the soundboard master and back in those days low generation copies of it on the tape trader circuit would have been coveted. So this was mastered on cassette and not reel-to reel. A CD made from a soundboard cassette is better than one than one that can't be made because the Betty Board has been lost in an attic somewhere. Keep 'em coming Dave and thanks Jeffrey for your great work on these.

hell yeah shirdeep '94!

Wow, this sounds better than I thought it would! Seriously, this is a fine sounding release, believe me, I have heard ALOT worse than this! Dave L. and Co. need to mine the '80's and '60's more, because this sounds perfect to these ears. Anyway, I heard that there are "recording patches", does anyone have the start-stop times of the sound patches? It is not listed on the release as there being any "patches". Again, this a real fine release and the GD camp should not be so worried about the recordings because this is just fine. Oh yeah, the music - the band is cooking and playing with fire. More please!

Admittedly haven't listened yet because I am away - but I expect to fully, fully enjoy the release when I'm back - whatever "warts" and all. With almost all of the Dick's Picks, Dave'Picks, box sets, Vault releases, Download Series, etc, I think I have roughly 22 to 25 days of Dead music I could play straight without repeating a track. What I appreciate most is the VARIETY! Sure 68-69, 72-74, 77 or a few select years, may be THE best or THE best recorded, but it would be BORING to just have that. What keeps me buying is variety. And releasing 80's shows and 90's shows, and any earlier releases 65-70, represents variety. Rarely do I have the time to listen to full shows all the way through anyways, so even if a show is pretty average at parts, but has a particularly great "section", at this point that is enough for me to buy it. Example, the recent 11/06/77 release. Given that 11/04 and 11/05 was already released as well as many other shows from 77 that are IMO more enjoyable overall than 11/06/77, I can question it's release. That being said, I still love having it - and actually for the tracks that are most unliked by others - I LOVE the Scarlet / Fire transition. With Garcia's guitar dropping out for alot of it, is it an all time great version like 05/08/77 or 07/07/89? NO. But I actually love hearing the mellow groove the other band members create without him - it is a UNIQUE transition and a unique Scarlet / Fire for that reason - and once in awhile that unique mellowness is exactly what I am in the mood for. And for this 09/02/83 - the what I hear are unique post-Eyes Jam, unique type of Space, Wang Dang Doodle > Jack Straw, and some of the other highlights make it worthy of release at this point. Also Phil's intro to the crowd - Beware citizens!! It are those small tidbits unique to every show that makes me want to buy them all. So release them all from any era I say!! For DaP 28 - hoping against hope for some uncovered '70.

Man I'm cool with this release. It has it's warts but overall some folks need another listen. I'm happy. Last 5 BB-Ill Communication 4-3-98 Island Tour Phish 7-11-03 PJ 4-26-03 PJ DaP 1 Extra Ween Chocolate and Cheese

I was at that show. It has a reeeeeeeally good Sugar Magnolia. if you like 94, I recommend 6/17/94 and 6/19/94.

Another example is the 05/26/93 Road Trips. When that first came out I was like why? And I basically shelved it after some listens to set 1. Only very recently did I pull it out for the sake of some variety and finally really clued into listening to the Playing in the Band. I did a double take. Is this still the ‘93 show I had put on Or had I skipped way backwards to another era? Ah that’s why this one was worthy. Super glad to have it.....now. All these years later. If we trust Dave, each Pick has something to offer.....of course some more than others. But all worth some listens from time to time. The ‘86 TTATS - equal to ‘73-74 - no way. But fun to listen to less often. Absolutely.

Confirms that this SBD recording still sounds way better than the AUD recording. Preconceived notions. If you despise Brent and the 80’s and expect (want) this to sound like crap, it will sound like crap. If you love Brent and the 80’s and expect (want) this to sound awesome, it will sound awesome. As I posted before, this sounds so much better than the hissy, muddy cassettes I used to have. Happy for this release and the ability to add to a less represented part of the 30-year collection. Thanks Dave and crew! My only complaint, and this is the same complaint as many releases, is the overlap transition between CD’s 2 and 3. Why does this keep happening? These aren’t cassette tapes. DAVE!, if you read the posts here you would be aware that many people load these onto music players/iTunes/etc. Overlap transitions sound completely stupid!!!!! Please STOP! If it’s Jeffrey doing it, tell him to stop. I actually go through the extra step of splicing out the overlap and burning CD-R copies. But a lot of people don’t, and just have to suffer through it. Charlie Miller makes his shows ‘seamless transitions’. Why can’t Dave and Jeffrey? Seriously, it takes more work to make an overlap transition than to just leave the recording the way it is on the master.

I didn't see any digs at you space brother. Are they PMing you? No need to start with profanity and name calling. Good vibes about. Streicher is that 25 days include drums and Rhythm devils?

So I have finally been able to give DaP 27 a good listen. I haveread most of the reviews of this release and honestly I fall in the middle of the road. As far as sound quality goes I agree it has its issues. At times it sounds like the vocals are loud or the keys are up too high in the mix. There are a few audience patches. The one during Eyes is pretty bad. Yet these issues weren't to my ears, persistent on every song. There are periods of balance with sone songs, at least as much as could be achieved given the source. Performance-wise, I have to agree with the theory that the boys were delving into high-octane party favors. I do think for some songs it paid off. Big Rail Road, Deal and GDTRFB were pretty good. Help > Slip > Frank was nice too even with the vocal nonsense during Help. The Jam before drums and the Space after it were very unique- I like both a lot. Converseley Throwing Stones went off of the deep end in a bad way. Like someone else said it almost sounds like Jerry soloed too a completely different song. Although it kind of worked in a way too, so I am not quite sure on that. Overall I like this show, it is inconsistent but when songs and some jams get going it is a lot of fun. I like many others, admittedly have gaps in my listening and 1983 is one of them. So I too went and listened to Dicks Picks 6 10/14/83 for a comparison. Although I may think that 10/14 show is better I still like this current DaP 27 as well. More importantly with Dave's Picks, Road Trips and Dicks Picks, along with box sets and one off releases, there has been a large amount of the "big" shows released. When I think of big shows I usually think of the great and widely available, usually SBD source shows from the tape trading days. So of course I think of 3/2/69, 4/28/71, 8/27/72, 5/8/77, 7/8/78, 9/18/87, 9/10/91, etc... I mean I had all of these on tapes and they have been officially released, most in their entirety. Yet there have been some releases that I certainly do not hate, but just do not do it for me. DaP 20, the Boulder 81 show is one. I don't feel that the show is terrible, but it just doesn't really seem to get going. Another that someone just mentioned is DaP 25 11/6/77. I dont think that the show is bad and it has some great jams, but the proceeding 3 shows are better overall to me. My point of all of this is that when a show that is not in the "big" category or even some that are, gets released I think there is a greater hit or miss factor, even when not considering sound quality. Yet despite this I think it is worth a chance every now and again for Dave and Co. to produce a release that might just be a sleeper. Whether the show wasn't all in the vault or if it is Betty Board upgrade, I think we need to get the under the radar shows. I always think if the Road Trips from 4/6/82. I had never heard that show until I purchased it from Real Gone Music. I really like that show and I have been repeatedly surprised by the playing on that one. I dont know what else to say other than Thank You, Dave L. and crew! Please keep these shows coming. Oh and yeah I want 10/18/72, 2/15/73, or 12/1/79 next please.

This isn’t the first time that ‘sold out’ shows reappeared. Happened with several Eur72 shows. Also, I previously received a replacement DaP due to defective discs and it was a numbered copy even though it had ‘sold out’. And, recently there was an eBay seller with unnumbered DaPs that were surplus promo copies. The number on the cardboard holder is arbitrary. It’s not the production number of the CD, it’s the order that the cardboard holder went through the printer.

Anyone else notice that printed on the plastic wrap in light blue ink right below the bar code it said ‘Disc Made in Mexico’?Seems that production is back up and running. Hopefully they resolved their QC issues.

The audio of this show is just awful. Is this your first non-cassette release? Tell me, on a scale of 1 -10 where does something like Cornell 77 rank. And then how about this Boise show?

If you recall, and if you don’t go back to the original page for the posts, many people hate the excessive reverb added to 5-8-77. A lot of people were actually pissed off at the sound quality of that release.It’s very unrealistic. Remember that Betty had a separate feed and adjusted the signal before recording. Betty was not in the arena, but was in a make shift studio, whether it be backstage or downstairs.

Take Veneta or any of the Europe 72s or whatever you consider an excellent recording, assign a number to it from 1-10 and then assign a relative number to DaP 27. (But really this exercise was for dilbert)

Europe 72 was overdubbed. http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-europe-72-overdubs-guest-pos…

After giving this a couple of listens I can say that I'm glad to have it. The sound is not as good as some of the other official releases but it didn't bother me too much to enjoy the show. If I want to listen to perfectly recorded music I can spin some Steely Dan or some other impeccably recorded studio masterpieces. When I listen to live dead recorded decades ago I accept that the recording quality is not going to be perfect. This show is a snapshot of the band at a time when the impact of some lifestyle choices were probably starting to catch up to various members of the band and they sound different than in earlier years. But I like '80s dead, that was when I saw most of my shows and when I first acquired some often sketchy sounding early '80's live recordings on cassette ( and was glad to get them). This release sounds better than all of my cassettes (except my cassette of 8/13/75 which was pristine and included an extended intro by Bill Graham not included on the official release). The point being that while the sound quality is clearly not perfect, it is not so bad as to limit my enjoyment of the show. I don't think that I would like the dead so much if it weren't for diversity in sound over the years, and I am glad to get a listen to as much as possible. So far, I have been happy with Dave's choices for these releases, and I am guessing the trend will continue.

Believe me I know which ones have overdubs in them. If it's not on the original Europe 72 it's not overdubbed. and there are 22 shows. Why don't you just answer the question instead of avoid it? Take Crimson white and Indigo then. Or is there no stellar live recording to compare Dave's Picks 27 to? That is so funny that you completely ignored the question and tried to make it sound like 22 shows are completely overdubbed. Take 25 songs that aren't and answer the question. Do you even understand the question? Are you that stupid? Why don't you just tell us Venetta is a crappy recording because it was hot that day and the instruments are out of tune. Maybe you keep your big nose out of business that's not yours.

...I will admit that I am way beyond psyched for the '73 '74 PNW box set as I am particularly fond of the way the dead sounded in 1973. Jerry also, if there is something released from '73 I am on it.

....not trying to be pretentious or anything. I just can't stop listening to them. Winterland 12.29.77 is in full force. aka DP 10....

....that 12.29.77 has a Terrapin, JBG encore? Good stuff.