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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Mr. Pete
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    I would guess by the time the box comes out, and deadheads comment on how nice the box looks, that will "seal the deal" for a lot of people.I am not familiar with the NW shows so I am very much looking forward to sitting down, pouring a cold beverage, lighting up one of my dead meerschaum pipes, and enjoying each show. I am sure the quality of the sound will be...excellent! A lot of us forget how bad cassettes were in the day. Not all...but most! Have a great day! Mr. Pete-----------------> aging hippie
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    Total run time for 6/1 @ Camden was 2 hrs, 54 minutes (18 songs including encore) per my Nugs download. For 6/2, it was 1 hr, 46 minutes (10 songs). I don't have the specific Set 1 vs. Set 2 breakdown at the moment. In listening, I felt like the 6/2 first set seemed longer than usual. On a related note, hoping to catch the boys at Blossom tomorrow if time permits!
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    Not sure why you feel entitled to a refund. You don't get a refund if a baseball game gets called early due to rain. You don't get a refund if you buy a ski pass for the season and it does not snow. Our plow guy certainly does not offer a refund if it does not snow. The same thing happened in Canandaigua a few years back. Sucks, but that is how life works.
  • Vguy72
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    ....Dead & Co busted out The Eleven on the eleventh show of the tour. I don't believe in coincidences....Haha. Poop. Congrats Sixtus.
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    Lucky you, daverock and Jim. Have only seen him live once, back in 1979 or 80 (edit: oops, not that anybody cares, but I remember now that it was in 1976. 42 years ago? Ouch) not long after Wired came out, so that and Blow by Blow made up a good portion of the show. How could anyone not like that? Seems he'll be in southern Cal this tour but I'm up north, so will miss him again. In the age of youtube, though, it's easy to see parts of these tours that I cannot attend. He's still among the pinnacle of my rock guitar favorites, with that rare blend of technique, emotion, and inventiveness. I can listen to Garcia endlessly, but when I'm in the right mood, JB has that different sort of mojo that's a cut above. Guys like Clapton, Santana, Robbie Robertson, and name 20 others always had lots of talent, but Beck continued to evolve and innovate, and damn does he ever age? I think his adventurous spirit, constant playing with new and talented sidemen, and restraint on overexposing himself has helped him maintain his longevity and freshness. Just re-read your post daverock, and somehow I missed the Imelda May reference as the warm up act on my first read. Wow, would I have liked to have been at that show! Jim, you'll be lucky if she comes along on his US tour too.
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    Thx Jimbo. And I did some quick math on your numbers below - they are eerily similar in terms of % unique songs played; FW 69 is 35.4839% 'unique songs' vs. PNW 73/74 being 36.5854% unique songs. Moral of the story seems to be that repeats have long been A Thing across runs. I ain't complainin'! Fun w/#'s Sixtus P.S. and it was the China > Rider transition from 5/19/74, while listening on my Walkman strolling to my French class that had me repeatedly rewinding that Feelin Groovy jam which has since had me 1000% hooked on that little snippet whenever and wherever it pops up.
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    First.. congrats and best of luck Sixtus. Seond.. I got a nice chuckle out of thin being "shocked!" Chortled my coffee a bit.. I suspect the frequent visitors of these threads are mostly all-in on this one with some that are interested but passing for various reasons. I think it's worth it for a cleaned up, pristine PNE 73 alone, add in Seattle 74 and the rest is bonus material. I cannot get enough WRS's either, Truckin' had legs back then, China Riders were going through a pivotal evolution, there are some first set novelties like The Race is On, early Peggy-O's and others and you have the makings for a great box set. ..and that's before the extra time and effort mastering, Plangent, etc. As for songs. Just for kicks and giggles I compared to FW 69. I know there is no comparison, FW was an explosive early high water mark. ..but this is how they match up: FW 69 Shows 4 Songs 62 Avg. Songs per Show 15.5 Unique Songs 22 PNW 73/74 Shows 6 Songs 164 Avg. Songs per Show 27.3 Unique Songs 60
  • KeithFan2112
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    On a different note, I decided I wanted to know where it said in my ticket agreement that the BB&T Pavilion can cancel a show at some point through it without offering a refund. They are offering some free streaming stuff, but to be frank, I was treated rather belligerently by the woman I spoke to. She actually interrupted me, and said the words, "you're not getting a refund" after cutting me off several times in an impatient tone. I was very cordial in my questions and demeanor, so, clearly no respect for the customer (not because I wasn't given a refund right), but because I was talked down to and interrupted. This woman, after not knowing the answers, told me to Google it. I guess I can't be too surprised at poor customer service, but I can't remember the last time congeniality was reciprocated by condescension. I asked for her manager and was forwarded to his voice mail, so I left him a message. I don't know about you guys, but this sort of thing sticks in my craw, and frankly the discussion on Hell Freezes Over and increased ticket sales prices is what really got me to thinking I'm not happy with this outcome, and that I was going to call about it. I believe that the cost to either BB&T Pavilion and or Dead and Company to redo the show is going to hurt their pocketbooks a lot less than a great number of fans who attended, once you break it down to percentages and household income, etc. If it says in my ticket or anywhere in my purchase agreement that they have a right to do this, then it is what it is and I'm fine with it. If anyone out there has statistics on the number of minutes played at any Dead & Co shows, I would be grateful for them (like, if you have a show loaded up on your iPod, and the total runtime for both sets and Encore equals x number of minutes, that would be great thanks). The June 1st and 2nd Camden shows especially.
  • Sixtus_
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    Hey Now Just checking in after a bit of a hiatus - life's curveballs, you know? Busy times and not so busy times but busy times will indeed REIGN when Sixtus III arrives this Friday AM so long as all goes as scheduled. Then, crazy train. Good to catch up from the last several days, here. Psyched for this Big Box. Just looking forward to the smooth sound upgrade and some monster shows, just gimme it All. Dead & Co have been a lot of fun lately - that Billy Tell > Eleven rolled me over (sounds like VGuy too). Also coming out of Space into Eyes? My cup O' Tea. Be well people! revel in the summertime - I will certainly try and will do my best to check in and offer some candid updates. That may or may not involve poop. Sixtus
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    It's almost impossible to compare sales performance of any one Grateful Dead box set to another. Some we don't know how many they produced (Winterland 1973 & 1977); some are from extremely famous runs (Cornell, Europe '72); some are relatively expensive; some are relatively inexpensive; and some are available for download, so we can't even measure their sales. In hindsight, it seems clear why Cornell, Europe 72, Fillmore West 1969, and 30 Trips Around the Sun sold out quickly. It is interesting that Winterland June 1977 and Winterland 1973 took about five years to sell out, while the May 1977 box set took less than a year. Judging by eBay prices, the Winterland '77 Box is in much higher demand. This has me thinking they either manufactured an assload of Winterland June 1977 boxes, or the "Limited Edition" marketing scheme is hugely effective. I can't see Pacific Northwest box being on the shelves for more than 6 months after the September 7th release date for the following reasons: * The time of their career it encompasses, '73 / '74 * The 15K Limited Edition production run (a number we know doesn't last too too long) * The fact that it's in the medium to low price range * Its availability for the holiday season * The "word of mouth" advertising this box is sure to get (I believe it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to sound great and contain outstanding performances - we are going to be raving about it after it hits our doorsteps, and if it didn't sell out by then, they will start selling like hotcakes as the holiday season approaches) * The Grateful Dead's back catalogue is arguably in higher demand than ever. Dead & Co's impact, I believe, has contributed greatly to this. Even if one doesn't think there is any relevance there, the fact remains the back catalog is in higher demand than ever based on the increased production numbers of Dave's Picks. So yeah, good times good times. I'm not surprised that this didn't sell out overnight. It's not Europe 72. I think it's most akin to the Dave's Picks yearly subscription sales. We all know the boxes are out there in comparatively high numbers, and we all know the rate at which they're selling. Some of us are taking our time because we have time to take. But the window will shorten once the product hits the street and the holidays are upon us. You can't keep half a dozen brand new releases from one of the Grateful Dead's most cherished eras out of the hands of Deadheads for long. This is not Cornell or Europe 72, but it is also no July 1978 or RFK '89. I think after all is said and done, the Pacific Northwest box may reflect the sales pattern of 30 Trips Around the Sun.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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THANK YOU DMCVT and HENDRIXFREAK for letting us look over your shoulders on Watkins Glen's 45th anniversary. I've got your sagas duly saved, but you'll probably need to repost once again for the 50th. I did locate H-freak's photo of the stage and dmcvt's link to Gouldon's pics is priceless. Hendrixfreak you've got to be one of the far-est out 15 year olds ever – my year-15 in sleepy Arkansas ('68) was rockin', but no way as amped up, electric and happ'nin'. Thanks again for the peek y'all. Onward.
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I recall someone gave me file conversion info to get that posted here and I've located the two digitized pics, but "file conversion," meh, no time or patience for that. As for being a wild 15, I can honestly say I've spent the last 45 years recovering... Thanks for reading, folks. Of course there was more. A big ABB set, then the thunderstorms and The Band. After that, we were done. As we straggled out in the direction of ... somewhere ... we could hear Jer and the assembled doing a jam and ... we no longer cared. Crispy fried kids and we slept in a field and hitchhiked back home on the 29th. One day of rest, then we were off to Roosevelt Stadium for a two-nighter with The Band and the GD. Good gawd!
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Great job of facilitating a 'time trip' back so we could vicariously experience those 'mescaline moments' and aural adventures. Much appreciated. "Teachers open the door, you must enter by yourself."
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Hendrixfreak, maybe someone who knows the drill could PM me an email address so I can send the image to them and they can then post it here.
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Thanks DMCVT and Hendrixfreak for the great Saturday morning coffee reads. I had to check out that ending jam in He's Gone and I can see why you would remember it. Can't say I would; two weeks is my limit these daysI'll take a another review of Rosie Stadium trek in a few days if ur up for it Drp out
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Great account of Watkins Glen-thanks for posting. It gave a real sense of what it must have been like to see The Dead at that time. We must be about the same age-I saw my first gigs in 1972 when I was 15-T.Rex followed by David Bowie. A very different culture - nothing remotely happened to me in the way it happened to you! I don't think I would have survived, if it had.
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Thanks man. Good read!
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....I doubt it will be Watkins Glen quality, but I will try. Live music is my pulse. My wife is going too. That's big news in my little circle.
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I was eleven in '73 and at sleepaway camp in the Catskills. I knew of the Dead through the bootleg tapes (TDK SA-90) our counselors played nonstop. Those two classic B&W posters of the band in front of Mickeys barn and the one of Garcia in his skeleton jacket was in almost every bunk. It provided the roots to an education, adventure, life philosophy that continues today. I recall hearing the words "Watkins Glen" so often that summer from the counselors that went to the show and knew something great had gone down and lived on those stories all summer. Hendrixfreak & DMCVT's posts bring me right back to those amazing days. The photos are excellent, from the dedhed fashions to the flip top beers, the cars, the lack of merchandise.... I loved looking at every detail in the photos, makes the listening experience even greater. Now 56 sitting in my dedhed themed cabana on the Jersey shore, Im grateful for your posts as all my listening today will consist of only those three bands.
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Hendrixfreak,Thank you very much for your great stories of RFK & Watkins Glen! You're not going to win the Pulitzer Prize for Literature for them, perhaps only just the "Golden Bong Prize" from High Times. A+ My 1st rock concert and 1st GD show was 6/10/73, I was a sweet 16 going on 17. I don't remember too much other than it was very hot and humid. We were in the lowest part of the stands and and looking right we could see the stage. Looking directly straight we saw the soundboard/PA and lighting control "island." Just smoking some grass was involved in that event. We were unable to go to Watkins Glen later that July. Again, I deeply appreciate your stories of RFK & Watkins Glen.
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And... now... for something... completely different: If you like a high energy, well played later 80's show that was broadcast on the FM way back, here's March 31st, 1987 Grateful Dead at The Spectrum in Philadelphia Pa., on the area's leading rock broadcaster at the time, WMMR, 93.3 FM, here is a recording of that broadcast: https://archive.org/details/gd1987-03-31.fm.braverman.7357.shnf/gd87-03… In my opinion, it would be a good addition to the current Dave's Picks Series
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Unfortunately I could not attend the Glen since I was at MSG in NYC to see Led Zeppelin that night! This was the 2nd night of a 3 night run that was filmed and became the movie The Song Remains The Same. This was the famous n8ght that the hotel safe was burglarized and the band "claimed" to have lost $150K. (In today's dollars that is more like one million). Mystery still surrounds that whole thing. Never trust Peter Grant! His only allegiance was to LZ. All week leading up to the show we were worried about rumors that LZ was going to blow off the Garden and go to the Glen. Thank goodness that did not happen! LZ was loud and phenomenal. I will never forget Page prancing around the stage in his black outfit with the embroidered dragons and such. Plus, we had just seen the ABB at the Garden on the Sat. night before the Glen! Talk about a wealth of musical riches. I had seen my first Dead show in Buffalo, 4 months earlier. 3/31 to be exact. A show that is sandwiched nicely between DaP16, 3/28 in Springfield, and DaP21, 4/2 Boston Garden. (I just finished up listening DaP16 and am now listening to DaP21) I am always hoping for its release but I doubt that will come to pass. I finished up the first disc of DaP27 and it cranks. Jerry is getting it done there for sure! Rock on
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Lyrics By: Robert Hunter Music By: Keith Godchaux Well hop in the hack, turn on the key Pop in the clutch let the wheel roll free Not a cloud in the sky, such a sunny day Push in the button let the top ten play Come on honey, let me sing 'em away Come on honey, let me sing 'em away Oh, honey, let me sing your blues away. Give me a little of that old time love 'Cause I ain't never had near enough Honey, walk that walk With style and grace This ain't no knock-down, drag-out race. It doesn't matter much, pick any gear Grind you a pound and drop the rear Baby, baby, what can I say I'm here to drive those blues away. I sent a letter to a man I know Said one for the money and two for the show I wait all summer for his reply Said three to get ready and four to fly. Only two things in this world I love That's rock and roll and my turtle dove. When I was a young man, I needed good luck But I'm a little bit older now and I know my stuff. Come on honey let me sing 'em away Come on honey let me sing 'em away Oh honey let me sing your blues away
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Funny, I still remember key details like the pink shirt with white polka dots I wore at the show. The afternoon ABB show was killer. Then the afternoon thunderstorm that drenched everyone while The Band played, stopped and finished their set with the lights on. Our idyllic little encampment from the Friday night soundcheck was a sordid pit of mud and abandoned blankets. A day and a half of boogeying on our feet, tripping massively, awash in loud rock 'n roll... Is it any wonder that I was done with festivals for the rest of my life? Even Englishtown's 100,000 was a bit too much at the time. Still, great show! There is no question that the event and other GD shows that summer and fall altered my trajectory. I began backpacking solo in the Adirondacks in NY state (black bear country), did the Green Mtns in Vermont, White Mtns in New Hampshire (almost killed in bad weather on Mt. Washington, where little crosses on the mountain say, "Joe Blow last seen near this area"; not "Joe Blow died here," but "last seen near this area" and the date would be years earlier, so obviously no one was waiting for Joe to show back up again). Then the big trip, thumbing from East Coast to West Coast and back in '74, turning 17 on the road -- of course, I thought I was a big boy by then. My poor folks, no cell phones and I was gone for months. Missed the GD that summer and ended up in San Franciso, walking past the Mars Hotel (LP had been out in July/Aug) trying to sell a cheap watch for food (succeeded). Heard about the October shows, but had nothing, no money, no friends in the area, nothing to do but hitch home and ... go to freakin' high school(!). That didn't go well. I got stories. And now, about to turn 61, and still doing the solo backcountry for the past 32 years in the high desert of NW Colo / NE Utah. Pretty alienated at times from ordinary life but still catching shows -- last night at Red Rocks: Tedeschi-Trucks band (back tonight, yea!). And the boomers remain my medicine a handful of times per year. Keeps me on track and has for 46 years. Puts me closer to rock and sky, though I've lowered the dose as I aged. Just don't require as much to get the inner synch going with the universe. Cheers! Maybe tonight Susan will sing Sugaree.............
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"Psychedelics are to Psychiatry what the microscope is to biology and the telescope to astronomy." ~Stanislav Grov Love the stories and ethos, HF. "God Bless the Freaks!"
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That’s worth missing the Glen
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Some pretty good deals on Dead related products from Warner Market on Amazon. -Dave's 14, 20, 24, 25, 26 -Hampton Warlocks Box -30 Trips Box
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loved those Watkins Glen stories Hendrixfreak and dmcvt. Man it's great to know that others really lived the life I dreamed about! I was such a lightweight at shows. Well, hell, I always had driving duty and my friends were always just casual Dead fans. I never really freaked freely at shows but I'm sure glad that so many others did!
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Hats off to those who kept it mellow so that they could drive their friends home.
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Yet it's kinda freaky when you know the driver is tripping as hard as you are and you're riding shotgun as the "navigator"... Summer of '76, after a couple GD shows at the Capitol Theater in lovely Passaic, NJ, me and two couples drove north to attend a fiddlers' convention in New Hampshire. As we approached a major highway choice -- north as planned, or east to Cape Cod -- I extolled the virtues of Woods Hole on Buzzards Bay. I had hitchhiked there repeatedly in 1973-74 when I was 15-16 instead of going to school and we hung there with a buddy who'd left home early. We met Smitty, a retired sea captain who taught me to roll joints with one hand and gave us warm beer and ouzo to drink and we sang him songs. Anyway, I'm talking about the good times in Woods Hole and the driver, my friend Mark, deftly swings the wheel and we're heading to Woods Hole instead of a fiddlers' convention. On July 4, we take the ferry (and car) to Martha's Vineyard and drop acid on our way to Gay Head, which is a bluff where a zillion colors of clay run down to the sea in a kaleidoscope. We spend time mind-melding with seagulls, then drive in search of food. Good thing it was all under 30 mph but jeez, we were hallucinating pretty strongly still and though we managed without freaking, that required significant effort. Mark and I talked about what we were seeing, how we were doing, as a mutual support act. As we returned to Woods Hole that night the fireworks of the Bicentennial were firing. And we were going to be OK. Yes, I have endless stories involving dubious behavior. And, yes, I'll stop now. Oh, but the reason for the post: I have nearly ZERO memories of July 30 and Aug 1 with the GD and The Band at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City other than one night I think it rained and both shows and bands played great shows. Love to hear either GD or both sometime, if they were to get the full Norman on a vault tape. I've heard tinny "soundboards" and won't go there again. Same with the Glen tapes. No doubt the first stimuli in -- Watkins Glen -- received full memory curation. But after two days of tripping and some hard traveling and insufficient rest, whatever the hell we did two days later is lost to the sands of time.
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First, thanks so much guys, you ahhh, “more experienced” folks (hey, don’t wanna piss off the PC police), telling your tales is personally, one of my favorite things here..And though I can’t complain, did pretty well for my time and place, can’t imagine seeing them back then. Like I think Bolo said first show was 11/10/73. Can you imagine being a kid, hanging in probably a half full winterland, perhaps a little of Bears finest.....awesome. Thanks to all that share the road tales, no matter what era. Speaking of memories or lack there of, it’s funny how shows from way back I can remeber some things pretty well, but like I don’t remeber much of the 8 shows we did in spring 87, and perhaps even less from spring 86, except a few biggies like the Box o Rain etc...
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I finally got around to reading his story: WG summer jam (long!) [July 27, 2018 4:40pm]YET AGAIN! WOW! Thank you very much! It was like being there, almost. He's not going to win the Pulitzer Prize for Literature for this, but perhaps the "Golden Bong Award" from High Times Magazine. One idea that is in my mind now is this complete event of "Summer Jam '73" - the 7/27 soundcheck & the scheduled event on 7/28 will be documented in an official release with fully restored audio of all 3 bands. I'm not too sure if The Band recorded their soundcheck and 7/28 show, I have yet to have heard/read an official confirmation, either yes or no. I think it would be a good idea.
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Driving on acid always ruins it for me. I can't not drive well, can't not bring myself to get my shit immediately together and pilot the car safely and well according to the rules of the road. And, after safely arriving at the destination, I can never, ever get the peak back. It's just gone, lost. A product I guess of me "sobering up" enough to drive. Once, a cop pulled me and my 17 year-old girlfriend over (don't scream gross, I was younger then) outside the Dairy Queen adjacent to our local park. I was blasted on Gooney Bird blotter. I kept it together and bullshitted this guy telling him everything he needed to hear. Hey, I used The Force. Is that so wrong? But I never got back up there again. Mildly buzzed and a little fuzzed out the rest of the night. Hate, hate driving on acid, it kills the buzz. I suppose that's the built in "don't kill other people" autopilot. cheers...
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Sorry to read that driving on acid killed the buzz. Looking on the bright side, at least you didn't kill anybody. You'd have had no end of hassle if you'd done that.
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Anybody have a vinyl rip of the Cold Rain & Snow?
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FYI, the Band did release an album called Live at Watkins Glen. It’s definitely worth checking out.I believe the ABB released part of their set on something also?
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The album only contains two songs from that concert by The Band. Garth Hudson's "Too Wet To Work", and "Jam". The rest of the songs by The Band are just studio recordings with crowd noise overdubbed.
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According to Wikipedia you are correct, thanks for the heads up....I’ve had that album since it came out and didn’t know. BASTARDTOS!
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I didn't know this CD was released until about a year or so after it's release. The review that I read was rather scathing and didn't give it too much merit - I think the reviewer didn't like the idea of studio tracks overdubbed with audience sounds, which in my opinion doesn't really work at all - too f***. (A certain politician uses that not obscene word way too often.) I don't think the reviewer liked "Too Wet To Work" either. I passed on that CD and it quickly went out of print. Some years ago, I looked it up on ebay, and the only copy that was up for bid was way too expensive to begin with. I don't think the seller had any bidders on the item at the time I saw it. As for the idea of a box set of this whole event, I pretty much think that if the legal hurdles and are met, music publishing legal hurdles are met, and the technical challenges are met and all pass, this box could become a reality. But I see it as an end-of-the-line "money grab" for the parties involved. As I said earlier, that the Dead's 7/28 show falls a little flat, unlike the soundcheck event the night before. Still, I'd love to see it be released soon.
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I finally got a copy of DaP 11 and my 1972 Bird Song collection is complete. The song sounds much more refined in 1972 to me. Its probably my favorite Jam song, or Here Comes Sunshine. Or possibly the 73/74 China Riders. My question to the group is: are any of these a LOT better than the rest? Because I can't tell them apart. They all seem to kick the same amount of butt. Are there any stand out moments in any of these in particular? If I've learned one thing about the Grateful Dead it is that it can take dozens of listens to capture everything there is to hear in a song. And then you can put it on in the car and hear something completely new. I do love the part where they all stop playing and Kreutzmann does either a long fill or a short drum solo (I'm not sure which).
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Perhaps significant hurdles, and your not the only one I’ve heard say the 28th is not top shelf—(“where mamma hides the cookies”, that’s hockey talk for Vguy)—and some could argue “hey, why not use a release for “X” which is better etc, which is certainly logical. But if all the variables you mention could line up, that could be one hell of a box (perhaps even some video? would think a show of this historical magnitude would have, not full shows, but something??)
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....I have a hate/love relationship with that week. Mostly love, but I do get a little melancholy. I'm only human. And I miss them. Even the Boise '83 version. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Sorry
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I posted a few weeks back an interview with Kirk West (can't find it now) about a plan, shelved at the time, to release a four-disc set of GD/ABB selections from the RFK Stadium and Watkins Glen shows. Obviously the two discs of GD could not hold the 10 June RFK show itself, let alone the best from the Glen. And the ABB played killer shows at both events. Yes, the GD were less than stellar on 28 July because they came on stage just after noon. And, um, might not have gotten the best night's sleep after their great soundcheck the night before. Now that both bands are toast and Dave's Picks have proven a success, the GD could release 10 June and the whole Watkins soundcheck on something like 6 discs and leave 9 June and 28 July alone for later, eventual release. The ABB could piece together the best of their four sets in those two concerts and they'd have a nice package. They killed it on 9 June and their sets at The Glen were killer as well, to my memory. Point being, let's hear these shows, and soon. I've heard a bit of tinny-sounding, purportedly soundboard tapes from both events and the sound quality couldn't do justice to the music. The upcoming 73-74 box will have to blow over to reach a good point for other summer '73 releases, but eventually 10 June and 27 July GD performances will have to come out. So sez me.
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Loudon Wainwright III once wrote... Driving on acid is easy Driving on acid's a breeze Just keep the car on the highway Don't laugh and don't fart and don't sneeze
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So Jerry would have been 76 today, Happy Birthday, Jerry!We miss him to say the least. Actually this is one for the Jerry Garcia Archive. If you have this show, what do you think about: Jerry Garcia Band November 23, 1977 Palace Theater Waterbury, Connecticut, USA Audience recording - soundboard recording unavailable. Set 1: How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) Catfish John That's What Love Will Make You Do I'll Take A Melody Simple Twist Of Fate Mission In The Rain SET 2: Let It Rock They Love Each Other Mystery Train Love In The Afternoon Reuben And Cherise Gomorrah Midnight Moonlight ENCORE: Lonesome And A Long Way From Home* A.) Inspired B.) Uninspired C.) This show is releaseable in the official GarciaLive release series. D.) This show is unreleaseable because it sux. E.) B-b-b-boring. F.) What a little blotter will do to give the listener the thought, "this is the greatest Jerry show ever!" G.) It wasn't the greatest, but for my former tape trading partner, Paul M. from Wolcott, CT., he had a great time with his GF - who is now his wife. *My copy does not have the encore.
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thanks for comments... striving to provide some feels like... we left the electric wild turkey with our new friends and neighbors, took over an hour to carefully wade out to the fringes, CKR was our code for Columbian Killer Reefer. Best thing available in Maine at the time. folks might not be aware that it is less than thirty miles between Watkins Glen and Cornell, each at the southern end of adjacent finger lakes talk about tripping reminded me of another event, will hop on the wayback machine ... a slightly out of control scene at my first Rolling Stones concert. Could have seen them in Baltimore in 1969 when my parents took my fourteen year old brothers ticket away from him after they figured out where he was headed, I said I would go, but in a perverse sense of fairness, they said if he can't go, we can't let you go either... Mom, Dad, its The Stones!!! Mother's little helper!! 17 at the time and would have driven there in a heartbeat. Get your Ya-yas out tour. So a quasi communal group of us dropped on our way down to RFK stadium on July 4, 1972 for Stevie Wonder and the Stones. Following the usual procedures, to enjoy and get the most of the experience, plan ahead for the right surroundings and people, have as much as possible set up for positive outcomes, a sober guide/monitor present if its a larger group. Not necessarily a large concert... We got in, found our seats, Stevie started to play but a lot of people weren't paying him much attention, he was back round for large scale craziness. Typical hot steamy DC late afternoon. What did get our attention was the tear gas trickling in from outside the stadium. Overly excited DC police were trying to stop people scaling the stadiums outside walls to get in free. Think about it, being up in the air over pavement, wall climbing and tear gassed, or inside admission paid and tripping and you get whiffs of tear gas. Whole sections of people got up and moved around to better air. Loud booing and jeering. DC police were pretty quick to use tear gas for crowd control back then, in the archives I have photos I took at Viet Nam antiwar demonstrations on the national mall and at the capital with smoking canisters flying every which way through the air. They herded demonstrators onto buses in those mass antiwar arrests and where did they take detainees for processing? Why RFK stadium of course. Fortunately the tear gas traces inside RFK that day were not horrific and passed quickly, the Stones eventually came out also at peak, Exile on Main Street tour, a great and long show and there were fireworks.... lots of fireworks
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So after tonight's Meet Up At The Movies...DL talks about this new box and introduces the artist behind the packaging.....What a BEAUTIFUL sight to see....Looks very sturdy and well constructed....I buy everything this band puts out from every era, and I know it is all about the music...but geez these packages look like sculptures on the display table.Meet Up At The Movies was great as usual, even though I already own the DVD, it is nice to chat with others that appreciate this band as much as I do. Don't miss this box!!!
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You've picked a great song and a great time to chase it down in. This is probably one of my top five Grateful Dead songs. I like them all a lot. I think the Download Series one from July is my least favorite, only because I don't think it's quite as developed at that point (for example the opening chords aren't quite as sharply executed, and the jam section where Jerry solos is shorter). Veneta is hard to beat, because it's longest, it's multi-track sourced, and the playing is exceptional. DaP 11 is also up there with Veneta for me. That one came almost 3 months later and the playing is just so good from having performed it so much by that time. Jerry's solo at the 3 minute mark is divine. Just listen to how he begins it! And of course the three from 9/21 - 9/27 are all solid (Jerry's a wee bit lower in the mix at Waterbury / 30 Trips). I'm still digesting DaP 24. The enhanced bass production is distracting for me. Once in awhile I can tune it out or get the EQ just right. I can't overstate how much Bill the drummer brings to this song. He's all over it with the drum rolls and ride cymbal. And then of course he has his little drum fill during that brief instrumental break before they all come back in again. Legendary. I'm looking forward to the first officially released 1973 Bird Song, coming along on this PNW Box Set. I'm going with the Dark Star finale from Dick's Picks 16 this morning. Unbelievable how good Uncle John's Band Jam sounds. I used to cherry-pick this song out for mixes, but it's even better within the structure of the complete Dark Star.
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The MUATM was very nice and seeing a happy Jerry interacting with Brent was sweet. There was about 20 people in the theater, all quiet for the show, but watching a show in deluxe lazy boy seats is so cool. thought we had missed the preview, but it came at the end AFTER the final credits and will probably be on this page soon as the Artist information clip. it was a short but interesting introduction to artist Roy Henry Vickers, who had the box in front of him as he described the idea behind it. it started with Dave, and he states that the artist is responsible for all the interior art. they might have showed the top cover taken off and the book is the top layer covering the contents, maybe a smaller wooden box that reminded me of the Warlocks box flashed by, but then went back to the artist. it is probably on youtube already and they just need to link it to this page, it's a standard seaside chat type clip. the box is a little smaller than the 30 Trips box, and won't fit on my shelves where it deserves to be, so it's off to the storage room after ripping. this should help move more copies as it looks really nice and they stuck to the outside, so no unpacking or reveal of the CD holders/digipacks. could be laminated card board or pressed sawdust, but from the outside it looks as sweet as the 72 steamer trunk.
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I am so looking forward to this box. The description sounds awesome. No storage room for this prize in my house. I am going to buy a 4 foot fucking pedestal for it and place it where the end table in the family room is soon used to be.
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What fun last night at MAUTM! There weren't many of us and the volume was low at first, but got better by the middle of the 1st set. we stood up and hooped and hollered between songs and sang along w/ IKO when Jerry told us to ... I enjoyed it thoroughly being there with a few buddies, but I am wondering why they would choose something already released on DVD. I love the show and have the DVD but am hoping that next year we get something we haven't seen released officially ... and then they can release it after and we'll buy it up. Something from Summer '91 perhaps!? PS -pumped for this bad ass box! Sept is going to rock!!!!
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I wonder if this box is big enough to fit all the other boxesthat sit on my shelf and collect dust? The art is SO COOL! I wouldn't mind having this one on display, I'm just not sure what should go in it (since I'm old-school, the cd's are going on my CD shelf)
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I am excited to get this. I am looking forward to all of it. I am most excited about the 6/24/73 show. The reason is back in tape trading days this one really didn't exist.. My Dead Base VI has the second set incomplete and nfa>gdtrfb>nfa as the only 3 songs.... I sort of already know what disc i am going to listen to first... have a good weekend everyone.. be good bob t
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Was a nice mental release to get to go to MUATM this week - I really needed it. That Box Set Reveal was Dave's best video update ever. I don't know why they have not put it up on dead.net, maybe waiting for Days Between to pass??? I suspect once people see it, they will be off the fence and having an awesome boxset on the way to their mailbox next month.
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Good to see you uncloak long enough to fire a photon torpedo! We are continuing your mission to share this music with the world. One head at a time. Keep on paddlin', brother!
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