Grateful Dead

mine came in today. I haven't played it but I have it ripped and im gonna tear into it after a jaunt on the treadmill with phish. but look I have heard some '70's shows also were jerry was low in the mix, whatever that one 72 dicks picks one is in NJ, whatever that '72 show for daves that's at the academy of music, the Waterbury show for 30 picks, and quite a few shows where jerry's guitar is kinda low for many estimated prophets in the late 70's. its just not 83 but sound quality is really subjective when you get down to it

Last time I saw Dave’s Picks 1 on Amazon, it was listed at nearly $6000.00. Obviously, I passed on it.

ok, lmao fourwindsbelow comment has been the funniest comment I've read in here second to a '90 show comment story that had me in tears of laughter. yeah, cuz these are two track tapes they were never recorded for commercial posterity. but just for reference to listen back to and see what worked and what didn't. any major enjoyment from these two track tapes is purely coincidental.

....are we talking sound quality or performance. Other than the missed verse in Help On The Way, performance was fine for me. Other that the jarring aud splice in Eyes, quality is fine for me. My dogs ran out of the room though and hid under the bed. Should I be concerned?

There is no debate about multitracks going on here as the Dave's and Dick's Picks were all 2 track recordings with the exception of Dave's 8 which is a 2 track plus an Audience recording for a Matrix. Healy's PA mixes are what sourced this show, and most of the 80s tapes, and, yes, that is a totally different animal than Betty's (or Owsley's or Rex's or Kidd's) 2 track reel to reel recordings that they mixed from a soundboard feed that probably included amp mics mixed into those 2 tracks. And it is this difference (plus the use of cassette masters) that many of us dread. Plus the PA mixes have to have vocals and keyboards pushed up front where that was much less an issue with Keith and a piano that couldn't be plugged in and prior sound rigs. This recording is good in having more low end than is normally heard on these 80s PA mixes, but that could be Mr. Norman's deft touch, rather than a stronger low end mix by Healy this particular night. Owsley denigrated Healy's mixing abilities, claiming "he couldn't mix a cake from a Betty Crocker package", and though I wouldn't go that far, his additions to vocals often detract, as they do here, to me, most obviously on Mama Tried and Big River. And Healy's effects are definitely on the 2 track recordings, because it went through the PA, so he mixed it in there. There may be less in 1983 than in 1988, but it's definitely there, and while it may work for something psychedelic like The Other One, it doesn't sound good on Mama Tried. At all. I totally get different recording techniques yield different results. I also get that Dave also said that this is a better sounding PA mix tape from the 80s, and while that may be completely true, it doesn't mean it's a great sounding tape. I'm not expecting it to sound like Dave's 21 4/2/73, but I don't see why any of us who do not like the sound of this Pick need to adjust our expectations or listen on headphones when we don't like how it spunds in our cars, on our stereos, or on our computers. When the AUD patch in Eyes hit, I thought that sounded good, and that they maybe should've gone Matrix again, though that wouldn't bring the guitars up much, and the vocals would still be well out front. If they want to put out more '80s-'90s shows, that's great. If they sound better than this. I actually would love for them to use the multitracks where they have them, so they can put out some of those later shows. That would give us great sound quality, and if it's picked, usually the playing quality is strong as well. If a crappy board tape surfaced of say 11/8/70 I wouldn't want to pay for it, even though that show is about at the top of my wish list, because I'd rather a somewhat lesser show with much better sound come out. Of course, that's just me, and I am not Rhino's only customer, and this isn't Duane-era ABB we're debating, where you literally have 80-100 tapes floating around in various quality, whereas the Dead have hundreds of high quality tapes, hundreds of mediocre tapes, and hundreds of incomplete or bad sounding tapes. On Phil's Alembic sound on tape versus live, I never got to see him playing the Alembics, so my reference for those is the tapes, and I love the sound that's captured. And it's funny you say that, because a Phish show I went to a few years ago, Mike Gordon onstage sounded just like Phil on tape in the '73-'74 period, and I thought he sounded great, and looked forward to hearing that tone on the board tapes later, but it was gone, replaced by the sound of his direct out and whatever mix the sound guy threw on there, so he sounded like Mike on tape, but live I was blown away by that wooden tone (that's always how I've described it) that sounded just like Phil.

Healy should have known that years later Dave would release this show and have made the perfect board tape.

if you need and want your digital copies of Dave's Picks to look fancy and have the fantastic artwork that is adorned on the covers, than look no further than www.albumartexchange.com it is free, but you will have to register to download artwork. if you don't register you will have a "watermark" on your artwork and it will look like poo poo

I think it sounds fantastic, not sure what everybody else is hearing or not hearing but it sounds like they are live in my cave and that’s enough for me!

I've said it before and i'll say it again lol Rhino/Grateful Dead Productions are not responsible for your merchant business on ebay I find that market place shit fuckin hilarious

these 80's releases are a real novelty. I like all eras but this will get listened to probably only on the anniversary date. Sorry but like the Boulder release sound is not so great and to me it seems like they're going through the motions, not to mention at like triple time...? Maybe it was just me today or first listen or that I started the day and did enjoy 7/31/74 this morning...