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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Born Cross Eye…
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    Is this a bonus disc?
    Speaking of bonus discs...I have a disc that I keep with the Fallout From The Phil Zone CD, it's an interview with Phil Lesh. 30 minutes in duration, very little music all from the CD. I think I got it when I bought the Phil Zone from dead.net, but I'm not sure. ASCD-3392 The artwork on the cardboard sleeve is similar to the Phil Zone 2CD but has INTERVIEW in white lettering in the front. Do you have this one, too?
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    And one more thing about bonus discs...
    So I really do like RT series which initially I was overly critical of it back when it started. I was wrong as there are some great shows/music contained in those releases. But hey of course it would be, right? Still I have to say though that the bonus discs are kind of essential to many of the 2 disc releases, at least for me. For example, the bonus disc from each of the first 2 RT releases contains tracks that when combined with the other discs complete sets from 2 shows. The Oct 1977 release with the bonus disc gives the entire 2nd set sans encore of 10/16/77. The Fall of 79 release with bonus disc gives the entire 2nd set sans encore of 11/9/79. In weird bit of sychronisity, both of these shows encores were U.S. Blues. Neat.
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    Speaking of bonus discs, I was fortunate to have been able to get most of them when I ordered early. The Road Trip series has so many as you all know, which when I ordered from Dead.net I did get the bonus discs. Unfortunately I passed on some RT releases and trying to get these releases I missed now with the bonus discs is pricey. Real Gone Music's reissues are likely not going to contain the bonus discs. I could be wrong but the 11/21/73 show originally came with the bonus disc of 12/6/73 with that monster Dark Star. The Real Gone reissue did not have this. It may have been because that would have made it a 4 disc set so they opted out. That may not be right, but I am holding out hope that the 2 disc releases will actually be reissued with the bonus from Real Gone. There are a few I got to have. That 12/6/73 bonus disc comes to mind because it generally goes for about $150 (at the lowest) just by itself. Since Real Gone is reissuing the last RTs first, I will have to wait and see. They are on the 69 Big Rock Pow Wow shows. Then it is Penn State/ Cornell 1980. Since these are both three discs without bonuses I guess I wont really know until they get to the first 2 disc reissue in this sequence (I cant recall what that one is). Another bonus disc that is highly priced is the Beyond Description disc. I have seen that at $250. Yet the Closing of Winterland disc usually sells at $50-$75. Sometimes the Academy of Music bonus disc that came DaP 14 can be snagged in this same price range. I dont think that disc is as good as the one from Rockin the Rhein which I do have fortunately.
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    All The Years Combine
    All The Years Combine: The DVD CollectionGrateful Dead Initial release : April 2012 Shout Factory! A 14 DVD box set that brings together 12 previously released DVDs/videos. One of the DVDs includes previously unreleased footage of six songs from the 1987 to 1991 period and an interview with David Lemieux. The previously released items included in the set are; The Grateful Dead Movie - the 2 DVD expanded and remastered version The Closing of Winterland - Winterland Ballroom, San Francisco, CA, December 31, 1978 Dead Ahead - Radio City Music Hall, New York, NY, October 1980 So Far - music and animation including live and rehearsals footage (first DVD release) Backstage Pass - a six song, 35 minute collage of music from different periods Ticket To New Years - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA, December 31, 1987 Downhill From Here - Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI, July 17, 1989 Truckin' Up To Buffalo - Rich Stadium, Orchard Park, NY, on July 4, 1989 View From The Vault - Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh, PA on July 8, 1990 View From The Vault II - RFK Stadium on June 14, 1991 plus July 12, 1990 View From The Vault III - Shoreline on June 16, 1990 and October 3, 1987 View From The Vault IV - Oakland Stadium, July 24, 1987, and Anaheim Stadium, July 26, 1987 The previously unreleased songs are: China Cat Sunflower - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View I Know You Rider - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Man Smart, Woman Smarter - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Friend Of The Devil - July 2, 1989, Sullivan Stadium, Foxboro Hey Pocky Way - July 22, 1990, The World Amphitheatre, Tinley Park Shakedown Street - June 22, 1991, Soldier Field, Chicago
  • MDJim
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    It Has Been Said
    Bonus discs will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no bonus discs. I think this must also apply to new cars.
  • Vguy72
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    All I know....
    ....is if I owned all those bonus discs, I could buy a new car.
  • Kayak Guy
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    there is also a 2 song bonus CD that came with Postcards from the Hanging. a bonus DVD that came with the Grateful Dead Deluxe Scrapbook.... and not to forget all those bonus tracks on the Golden Road Box era CDs that are not being rereleased on the new 50th Anniversary editions. http://deaddisc.com/index.html a great cut and paste resource for people that like to make lists of stuff to look for on ebay ;)
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    Bonus discs with DVDs...
    There was a bonus CD "New Year's Eve at Winterland" that came with the 2DVD set "The closing of Winterland" for customers who purchased the DVD (but not the 4CD set) from Grateful Dead Merchandising. The CD comprised; Easy Wind (12/31/70) Jam> (12/31/71) Black Peter (12/31/71) Playing in the Band (12/31/72) Lazy Lightning> (12/31/77) Supplication (12/31/77) Sugar Magnolia> (12/31/77) Scarlet Begonias> (12/31/77) Fire on the Mountain (12/31/77) There was a bonus CD "Dead Ahead Bonus songs" that was distributed with pre-ordered copies of the 2005 (expanded) DVD release of "Dead Ahead". The 5 tracks on the CD are the 5 bonus tracks that were included on the expanded DVD. The CD comprised; Heaven Help The Fool Shakedown Street Samson and Delilah He's Gone Truckin' all from the 10/30/80 show. I think these two bonus discs together with Kayak Guy's list (see below) covers all the bonus discs. If we have missed any then post it!
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    This disc 1 seems to be stuck in my player. Damn thing has been on autoplay for the past couple of weeks straight. Healthy, happy, Hawaii Jerry playing with such inspiration. Such an amazing show, full of beauty and emotion. Right in the feels, man. Get you some. Now!
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    Closing of Winterland and Rockin' the Rhein bonus discs. What about the Searching for the Sound bonus discs.. I think I have them. Are they mostly interviews with some music might I perhaps not have them? ahh.. finally a long post worth reading. Bonus Discs. I finally got through enough listens of Dave's Picks 27 to comment. First.. 1983. A transitional year, especially for Jerry. He had begun his weight gain, the changes in his voice were especially noticeable and it seemed the band was migrating towards shows and moments with a harder edge. Next.. the recordings were different and not for the better. To my ears, '83 might just be the year where the least care was given to soundboard recordings. They were recorded on cassette masters for one. Also, Healy seemed to be experimenting with his Ultra Matrix mixes where he was pumping varying amounts of the audience mic into the mix. This seemed especially true for the outdoor shows that year. Some (many) sound like audience recordings while some of the indoor shows (Morgantown WV comes to mind) have much less of the audience boom mixed in and sound more like traditional soundboards. I think that's why the three official releases from that year were from indoor venues (DiP 6, Hartford 10/14/83, 30 Trips Worcester 10/21/83 and DaP 27 Boise 9/2/83), but this is pure speculation on my part, I wonder what others think. Of the three released thus far, I think Boise sounds the best. I saw the band several times in 1983, I think this sounds more like it sounded being there, the exception being the drums (hollow sounding, not full and vibrant) and the obvious muffled sound that generally comes with these cassette masters. Still.. I believe they made this sound as good it can all things considered. I believe the quality of the recordings, for the most part, improved by '84 and '85. I thought this show had it's moments, the high point to me was the jam in Slipknot! ..but each disc has it's moments and personality. This is pretty typical 1983. Is it the best in the series? Not to me, but I bet there is someone out there that might say yes. It does scratch an itch though and fills a void. To me, this release is stronger than the other two '83 shows released thus far both in sound and performance. Back to the 80's briefly. I find myself listening to more from 68 to 74 than the other years. Still.. at least or twice a year I go on extended tangents into the great beyond that are very satisfying for a host of reasons. Sometimes the diversity and difference in style and the occasional bombastic crescendo moves me. Recovering from an illness I took my first road bike ride in over a month Friday and I hit Augusta 84 and Riverbend 85 for some extra juice. It did the trick, I made it up the mountain and even peddled on for a few extra miles (you have to keep going through the end of the jamming). Believe it if you need it, we should not be surprised Dave picked this show and slid it into the 3rd slot. Even if I don't reach for it every third time you road trip (E72 anyone) it is a decent representation of what the band sounded like in '83.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I disagree, it's a full 10 out of 10. They're priming DaP 27 for national release. I'm changing my avatar to it right now. You're a cute little guy, keep up the spirit!
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You seem locked into that avatar picture somehow.
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Pass me some of that psychedelic licorice. I’ll take the purple. I’ll even take 2, they seem a little small.
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....Bobbys voice was a couple of octaves off for the first two lines. I almost pushed the stop button right then and there, but I trudged on. Much to my delight.
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Just received Vol. 14 It's numbered, but the front of the cover is a little sunk in; it looks like the seam is cut too wide, so when the cover closes there's a gap. These may be factory 2nds, sets with cosmetic issues.
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....this, my friends, ranks right up there with Nessie, alien abductions and Bigfoot. Hmmmm. I was abducted once. At Monterey '88. Then the goonie birds wore off. The real test begins now. The wife and son went to get a new treadmill. They'll be gone an hour or so. The volume on my Onkyo goes to 70. Boise is poised at 53 (get it?). I finally get to crank this shit legit like. Wish me luck!!
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....our wedding song. I'm biased so this would be an unfair review. I love them all. Next!
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.... suddenly, Bobby's singing in a barn. A little more echo than the first three songs. We all know it sometimes takes that many to get the sound just exactly perfect. Jerry's throwing coke infused licks. It is what it is. You can't un-coke it. It's not Norman's fault.
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yeah I was also wondering why we needed constant reminders that phish psucks........sry to those who find listening value?????
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....OK. I'll admit. The harmonies are off, but the music is still breakneck speed. I think Bobby's more off than Jerry. Jerry even throws some growls. Brent is in your face. But I love Brent, so there's that. The train comparison shows up during Garcia's solo. Chugging along. Watch your speed....
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I'm loving this Boise pick and all the debate about it. For me, it is easily tied with Augusta 10/12/84 (30 trips) for my favorite release from 80-85. I think the instrumental mix is almost perfect (except the keyboards might be a teeny bit high). Finally, an 80-85 release where Weir's guitar is right up front in our face where it belongs! Such a treat to hear Weir's early 80's guitar like this. IMO, this is the best sounding recording yet from 80-85 (not counting Dead Set/Reckoning and Go To Nassau). Well, we are all listening on different equipment and are looking for different things, right? Musically, I think it is as fascinating as 10/12/84. Better or worse? I'll need many more listenings of each to decide.
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Thank you. Pulling out 21 tonight. Phish video. Scroll by. Phish video. Scroll by. Phish video. Scroll by. No problem. But very weird.
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....way too fast. 4/10. Not a very solid version. Oh well. Time to sell it.
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....Phil!!! Back on track. Rocking with their rocks out. Nowhere else will you hear "stay right here in Boise" so it's a keeper.
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....I've already sung my praises on this version, so I won't bore you.
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....not bad. But there are tons better. More vox drops. Stay at the mic Bobby Rockstar! The coda is very nice though. Usually is. Here it comes again. I will admit, it's nice to let off the pedal. I'm a huge fan of the thunder effects Healy gave this song later on in the 80's.
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....watch each release you play, and play it slow. Just wait until that Deal goes down. Who knows? On 2.24.21, you might just want to bust Boise out. Yeah, there's some dust, but at least the musics clean. 4:50 mark. The boyz huddle up and get their shit together. You know, the Dead were known to play some rock n roll at times.
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....time to drop the volume down to 25. (sad face).
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I don't think the recording does the performance justice. The limitations of the mix make it impossible to accurately gauge how good they may have sounded that night. I get the impression Betty did a whole lot more mixing in real time than Dan Healy. Forget the cassette tape source, the show can hardly be mixed worse. The vocals on on a few of the July 1978 shows are not nearly as smooth as May 1977, and that's the same band, same songs, a year apart, recorded by the same person on presumably the same equipment. Sure, the band was a much less consistent band in '78, but the July shows are good performances. Yet to my ears, the background vocal mix on some of that box set is lacking, compared to May '77. My point is that I believe some mixing factor accounts for what I hear as inferior vocals in some sections of July '78, as compared to May '77. Even a non Betty from '77 like 4/29 makes the band sound much worse than they were really playing. We don't know what kind of audio enhancement effects Betty may have used on her mixes to provide us with the final products we have today (except the reverb, and look how different a perspective that gives us on the band). Add the same principal 10 fold to Boise '83, and what's the point of discussing how good or bad the show is? There's no way to tell as far as I'm concerned. For whatever reason, Dan Healy's mix here is so bad it does the band an injustice. Apply a mild harmonization effect to the vocals at the mixing board and maybe there wouldn't be so much distance between each vocalist. Anyway, I'm not saying a better mix would turn this show into a replica of Go To Nassau, but it would improve the performance immensely. For what we do have, I felt like many people posted. The music is so inconsistent as to be a distraction. Parts sounded really strong, but quickly turned me off a moment later. I don't think Brent's voice will ever grow on me. It just sounds so ragged and tired and overbearing.
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I've played it, not the best not the worse...It'll sit on the shelf with all the others and I doubt I'll pull it down and play it again for quite awhile...one thing it did do though was have me pull out the Santa Fe Downs Matrix shows and give them a spin...fun to hear those again...my '83 collection is a bit sparse after my first external HD crash from some time back...now I do back ups of back up etc...ya pays your money and take your chances after all...
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Back to my point about people hearing things differently...
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First I got to ask. Is it love Jerry like you love Jerry? Or is it love Jerry like: "What a long strange trip it's been." Love, Jerry I kind of noticed the same thing you mentioned about July 1978. Not quite as smoother than smooth as May 1977. I would love to get Betty sat down for an interview. Anyway I think your point is well stated and very accurate. For the people who are loving this release, I'm sure it would rank even higher with better mixing. I teach chorus, and it's very difficult to mic up the kids for the spring and winter concerts. For people who don't like this release, a great mix may have made all the difference. But oh well what can you do it is what it is. As far as the series goes, I think this is definitely subpar, but it's the only way they ever would have moved 18000 units of a show that sounds this way. Also agree with your Brent comment. It seems in the Grateful Dead circles he has a love it or hate it voice. I love it when it's real low in the mix. Or not at all. Eagles fill the sky, blecchhh. I cannot So what will they pull out for the fourth quarter? Can't be 1971, unlikely to be 72 73 or 74, impossible to be 75, also unlikely to be 77, although I would love to hear that swing Auditorium show from February. I can't see it being 1978 either, but maybe. I think some kind of 69/70 mix like Vol 6 maybe. I'd be great with that. 1976 is due. I would be surprised if Dave reaches into the 80s or 90s twice in a row.
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don't make me laugh, move along now
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I tried for years to like Phish.. bought tons of releases and saw a bunch of shows - but THIS is what they sound like to me now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNHIFM0Y87c Impossible to watch the whole thing without cracking up. The vocal bits sound like red-stapler guy from Office Space. TAlk about "hearing things differently"....
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for name-calling, why? I think an intelligent conversation is better than whom ever calling whoever uninformed or someone else calling them illogical. There are just a few unkind folks on this site. I don't care much for this release, but if you do, far out. The band didn't go to Idaho, or Montana often (once each?) but both of those shows are now released by Dave, maybe he's just trying to get unheard or not often heard releases out there for the faithful. Can't really blame them for not going to these places again, beautiful scenery, but not a very hospitable atmosphere for hippies.
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Hey, it’s 8/4, so why not 8/4/76? Someone mentioned Dekalb, there’s a Betty Board of 10/29/77 in the vault- that would definitely be a treat. Lots of talk of 79, which would be nice, but why not another 80s/90s? Su91, anyone? Mmm. Sp/Su 93? Yes, please. Although maybe these contradict the seeming mission, in ways actually that 9/2/83 did not, in releasing more relatively unknown and less heard of dates. Who knows?
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I like this Bobby, Brent and drummers jam out of Eyes! Good stuff. Also, if you like this little jam check out the Bobby, Bruce and drummers jam from Dicks #17 aka Boston Clam Jam!!
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What he said! You got it “just exactly perfect” Enough already. STFU and just sell the dam thing....don’t worry, we’ll be back to 99% 70s soon enough!
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(such as Chicago, the Bay Area, or NYC) more people would be more open to this release. Boise is indeed one of the strangest of places to have a GD show. "well it's 8:00 in Boise Idaho"
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thanks for the laughs Phish: I do appreciate them, but rarely listen to them. the thing that drives me crazy about them is the cutesy stuff they do. but they can jam when they want to.
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80s Dead just isn't my thing...to each their own. My DP 27 has been sitting unopened as I pondered what to do. For those who want but missed out, I just want to cover cost plus shipping, no EBay style gouging involved, maybe some interesting 70-73 trade? PM interest...
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Jerry's soloing on this version is phenomenal. His tone and harmonics jumps right out of the mix. Awesome.
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Got a last minute present to go to his show last night in Toronto. Only know some of the Talking Heads stuff from way back. Was blown away by the show - top notch production, uniqueness and grooves. Had a bunch of the age 50+ crowd on their feet and dancing from 3 minutes in. Highly recommended if the tour hasn’t passed by your city already. Will definitely be checking out his solo catalogue in between Dead releases. Maybe he appeals more to the Phish crowd than Dead, but the guy is quite an artist.
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he was in town re his and Fatboy Slim's musical "Here Lies Love".she went with a friend. on the way out, he was standing right there, so she said "hi", he greeted politely back, and she went on her way. he has been part of my musical landscape since I heard/saw Talking Heads on SNL in 79. love deez: More Songs About Buildings and Food (not about Fucking, though...tip of the hat to the poster who shared Big Black with us ;)) Fear of Music Remain in Light attended a concert of him solo in 1992 during the LA RK riots. "Burning Down the House" took on a whole new relevance
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....came through Vegas recently. I didn't even know.
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For those who think the sound sucks, what type of speakers did you hear it through?Obviously, computer speaks are the wrong tool for this job. For those who think the sound is great/good/acceptable, what type of speakers did you hear it through? I suspect that SpaceBro has a Wall Of Sound replica in his house. Combine that with his unbridled enthusiasm (Seinfeld reference) for the era, and he’s in pure ecstasy. I’m using Bose 301 speakers that are about 5.5 feet in the air on stands (helps to fill the room), an Onkyo subwoofer, Onkyo receiver, Onkyo 6-disc changer. I do have to turn the volume up past the ‘normal’ point for DaPs. Most DaPs are pretty consistent in the sound level on my system, ‘40’ on the Onkyo display. For DaP 27 CD1 starts at 44 but I just had to turn it down to 42 during Deal. These numbers are a little arbitrary and are influenced by how much I want my neighbors to hear the GOGD. Just turned it up a tad to 43 for H/S/F. It’s Saturday afternoon, not like it’s In The Midnight Hour. I can clearly hear all the instruments on Slipknot!, with Jerry right up front.
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....I use two tin cans and 15' piece of string. Am i doing it right?
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I'm listening on earbuds that I have suspended from the ceiling about 6 feet above the floor. The sound doesn't bother me at all.
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