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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Deadheadbrewer
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    It's the tail end of the potluck line, and I'm up to the brownies. There are five left, but eight people in line behind me. Personally, I would not put one on my plate, then stick one in my pocket. Nor would I purchase a second ticket to a concert that was selling out, just to have an unblemished ticket for my scrapbook. But that's just me, and to each his/her own, I guess. Looking at my GD notes, I see that I have absolutely LOVED 10/14/83 and 10/21/83, so I simply CANNOT wait for my copy of this release! Be kind, rewind. p.s. I feel bad, but I'm having trouble getting psyched for the Meet-Up this year. I already purchased this show on DVD, so I'm struggling to convince myself to pay again, when I can watch it any time with glorious sound (and (free) beer). Perhaps the other projects this year meant that there wasn't enough time to ready a show that hasn't been released?
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    In order to maximize profit it would make the most sense for a flipper to subscribe. Thus, I don’t think that the flippers can be blamed for fast ala carte sell outs, other than indirectly blamed because there are fewer ala carte’s available due to higher subscription numbers. Recall that Doc previously admitted to buying extra copies to flip so that his copy was essentially free. Does that violate cactus jack’s call for community? Doc didn’t think so, he said that he more than made up for it by distributing the non-commercial releases freely to anyone that asked. If you can’t afford to put 28¢ in the piggy bank every day to save up for the early bird subscription, then how can you justify dropping $40 on an ala carte purchase? I couldn’t afford to go to as many GD shows as I wanted to. But had I stopped smoking a carton of cigarettes every week and instead put that money in the bank I probably would have had the money I needed to attend more shows. Short term desires outweighed long term goals...... In the 90’s I knew a girl who had a small percentage of every paycheck direct deposited into a separate bank account for mail order tickets. Then every time that a tour was announced she always had the funds to do mail order. She thought ahead and was able to attend a lot of shows......
  • SPACEBROTHER
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    Haven't had a chance to catch up on posts over the last couple of months and not too worried because I have a subscription. Great setlist and haven't listened to this one before. Looking forward to it. Appears it sold out as fast as the any of the other recent ones, so proof in the pudding that '80's releases sell out as fast as any other era. Nice and congrats! I'm all onboard if the next few picks venture into the latter half of the bands career. Absolutely no complaints what-so-ever about this one.
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Prices are actually going down on Ebay, DaP 24 & 25 have been selling for less than $40 within the last few days. Production numbers have gone up, so has the number of ppl wanting to flip them on Ebay, but demand is the same. Pretty sure #27 will be available at affordable prices on the secondary market very soon.
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    Hi jaydouble, on the video Dave says it is a cassette master. But he and Norman are enthused about the sound. Well worth watching this seaside chat, lots of good info on the selection process.
  • libertycaps97211
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    ...is sadly becoming an elitist thing for collectors and/or Audiophile types. Thus the prices for Dave's Picks. etc. are constantly on the rise. And why these sell out in hour(s) now vs. days/weeks a few years ago. It is what it is, but the saving grace is that there is an endless supply of GoGD music one can enjoy free as the wind./2 cents.
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    I am a subscriber, so I am not worried about getting shut out of any Dave's Picks. But if everyone just bought a single copy for themselves more people could enjoy these releases at fair prices. WE shouldn't need a One per person rule coming from the top of rhino/warnerbros...Be considerate. If You want to get an extra for a friend that's really cool of you. If you buy as many copies as you can to store/flip you are hurting this community of heads. There's been a pattern here of grifting money right out of each others pockets. Worse still, some are preventing those who want a copy from hearing the remastered music. It seems we are all well aware of how limited these are yet don't care about our brothers/sisters who weren't fortunate enough to subscribe for whatever reason. The Elitist mentality is to not have sympathy for those not capable of saving $2 a week - we're somehow better/smarter/wizards of finance and it's not our fault that we live in a capitalist society - It's not 2 dollars a week, it's $125 or $99 for the early bird, there is a difference... It stinks I realize that you're entitled to do whatever you want. Supply/Demand, go right ahead and work your magic, I just think it's selfish. Just my two cents
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    what the hell you talkin' 'bout, amdew122
    "Read Rocks was a melting pot of East and the laid back, but no less enthusiastic West Coast heads; who enjoyed watching us gets our minds blown off the Rocks." You must have caught a buzz. From '78 to maybe '87, the bulk of the audience at the GD Rocks shows was locals -- Colorado heads. Sure, some coasters drifted thru, but 75 percent were locals. Glad you had a good time. You shoulda been there in July '78....
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    I’m really looking forward to this. I’ve only ever seen 80’s and 90 Dead so this will be a nice reminder of seeing the band in that period. Dave saw all of his shows and got on the bus in the late 80s and 90s, so it’s logical that the main obstacle to releasing more in this series is, as he says, because of the source problems and not through any lack of appreciation. That said, I think he’ll only release future 80s and 90s midway through the year and leave the last and first as whoppers from the 60s and 70s to entice new subs.
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    Ha! You know more about the contents of my e-mailbox than I do. Yes, it was there. As a subscriber, I don't have to worry about missing a show :D I wonder when the bubble will burst? Dead and Company influence definitely increases sales, and so too do the eBay flippers. The production numbers will continue to go up, but eventually interest is going to fall off - that's just the way of things. Then the sellouts will be back to taking a whole week or more. Imagine that, Dave's Picks in stock for a couple of weeks. The eBay flippers will be dumping them at less than cost. Probably around Dave's Picks 82. Mr. Pete, I almost agree with your sentiment on one per person, but not the part about people's teeth rotting out. They're just making a living, no crime in that. And besides, one per person wouldn't allow me to gift out Dave's Picks and other Dead shows every year. I go up to visit family every 4th of July bearing Grateful Dead CDs. I also collect the damn things like baseball cards. One set is not enough, I have to have a backup or two. I was actually very close to having a full backup set of Dave's Picks, but simply could not get my hands on brand new copies of 1 through 6. It would have cost like a million dollars. When Real Gone began releasing Road Trips, I grabbed those (even though I have the originals), just to have them. It's the collector in me. There's something about going to the mailbox and opening up that fresh new CD that bring some excitement to my day. Of course it's also making me go broke like a bad habit, so maybe they should limit them for my own self preservation. I don't think Rhino is ever going to put a limit on the number of subscriptions people can buy. I think they rely on them to bolster sales. The eBay flippers are sort of a free distribution network for them.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Jason, Icecream, Alvarhanso: Interesting. So...basically we need 84, and 93-95. I've been saying 84 for some time and I recall a lot of really crisp boards from back in the day floating about. But I think definitely 93 and 94/95, as well, are very underrated years. The top shows from those years are really excellent, and of a whole other nature. Garcia ballads (dirge-like), drums/space, etc. Billy talks about it in Deal, that whole "missing album" (much of it featured on disc 5 of SMR) really could have been their best. Not holding my breath on these for DP28: Thinking 79, 76, or 70.
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Why do chicken coops only have two doors?Because if they had four, they'd be chicken sedans. Ararar.......... Nope, Vguy's funnier.
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I've now listened to this release several times. Disc 2 is such a fun time and will probably get repeated playings especially when I'm in the car...or jacked up on caffeine. Otherwise I'm not sure when I'll revisit the rest of show (though as I've mentioned, I really do like the release). Starting to turn my attention to the box set coming out next month. Spent the morning listening to DaP 2 (7/31/74). I still cannot believe we're about to get 6 shows from two of the best years the band ever had. The last few years have just been a barrage of amazing (and in some cases legendary) releases all happening at lightning speed (at least compared to the past). After this one though, it's all gravy.
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This refund is for the following item(s): Item: Dave's Picks Vol. 20 CU Events Center, Boulder, Co. 12/9/81 Quantity: 1 ASIN: B07 Reason for refund: Item out of stock Well, that's a bummer considering I got a "shipped" notice stating it was arriving tomorrow.
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I heard discs 1 & 2 today (so far) it's a strong show. not legendary, but strong and hot enough for a "three smiles up" rating. it sounds like classic 83 GD to me. yes, there is the splice in Eyes. Some other minor things here and there. I can live with that easily. I like this release a lot. I like that it is from the early 80s. more, Dave, please. release 6/10/73 and 11/19/72 first, and then more 80s.
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in his sunglasses and dirty grey hair, sitting back and coolly strumming the Baba crash cords with I guess the Tiger guitar, that looks like the old Gibson SG. I would love a still of that (i.e. Shirdeep's video posted below) Weir looks hysterical doing his Townshend-esque jump and pseudo windmill, but I love him still. Who's guitar dude #3? Also looks ridiculous jumping like Townshend. But it's all good fun, they know they look silly. First Baba I heard was an Napster download with no TNK attached to it (probably edited out). I have no idea from where it hails, but it sounds like a AUD recording, and the place goes bonkers when Vince sings the opening verse.
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I think it might be RFK '92. If it is then guitar guy #3 is Steve Miller. He opened the show & joined the boys during their set as well.:o)
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Folks, I'm trying to figure out if the recording/mixing quality of DP 27 is as marginal as most of my discs sound, or if perhaps I received some poorly "pressed" discs. The show is obviously great, but only song on all 3 discs that sounds like an "A" recording/mixing is the very last song, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue. This last song sounds fantastic, but most of the previous songs sound OK to marginal. Particularly, on Disc 1, Bobby's voice sounds like he was separated the band and was singing into a bad mic... or something like that. Anyone else experience this? I'll feel better is so. If not, I'll contact Dead.net to inquire about getting a replacement set. Thanks!
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Uh, no, there is nothing wrong with your discs (unless they have skips or won’t play), they were designed to sound like that. That’s what was in fashion in 1983. Put your seat back in it’s upright, locked position and hang up the phone. Do not call customer service (unless you actually have a defective disc that won’t play). Wait, maybe you should call customer service...... For more information on the special qualities of 1983 recordings just scroll down this page and take in all of the informative opinions.
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Nope, back on the phone with customer support. You have to ask them for the rose-colored glasses they send with some of these sets. A lot of people think it sounds great.
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I like this recording. After the first track, things seem to sharpen up. This isn't the best, but it most certainly isn't the worst.
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Have you folks realized that this Amazon account isn't legit?
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Hey Ummmmmm...can you expand on your statement? Thanks!
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...yeah, no. The "surplus" discs are coming from the returns department. In all likelihood, like we've already said, these are extras slated as replacements for defects. So, again as we've already suggested, they must be clearing house; and seem to have already cleared house. I was able to grab some of the DP, but had my order of Hampton box cancelled (sold out- as someone else here had for DP20). Re: Hampton cancellation, that makes sense, as I think when I ordered it said only "3" remaining.
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I took a shot, ordering Dave's 22 & 20. Scheduled to arrive today... they cancelled 20, so I'm interested to see what or if anything shows up.
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If this isn't the worst Dave's Pick release then what is?I've read a lot of posts on many other releases and have never seen so many people that think this is a king size turd. You have to work hard to justify and fool yourself into thinking this is great. I've given this 4 listens front to back now and still don't get it. Finally the last song was good. It's not even the sound quality, I can deal with that. It's the total lack of cohesiveness, horrible vocal harmonizing, and the guitars sounding like they're on different songs and tempos. This like defending your favorite restaurant even when the food has gone so downhill it's inedible.
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if ya hate it so much why not stop listening to it?Pick something else and relax.
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Perfect idea and already executed on, will probably never leave the expanding row of releases ever again. I listened to it enough times to be sure I wasn't being overly critical.... I wasn't. This is the first release out of 27 that I've ever complained.
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It's definitely Warner. You can tell by because they seemingly don't have a solid grasp on the amount left in inventory. I find it all quite humorous.. at this point, it's a gift to those that didn't get them and now can at cost, so it's hard to be bitter about it all. But this is not a scam vendor. It will be interesting to see how many 30 trips are left/how long they stay on sale. These things have become impossible to get.
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As seen on an ancient (1988) tape trader's list: 1983/09/02 - Boise ID, Pavilion, SBD - B+ --- What we really have here in this Dave's Picks 27 is a B+ (trader's sound quality rating) cassette that was painstakingly transformed into a three compact disc set by Jeffery Norman, supplied by Dave Lemieux.
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....I'm not sure if that is praise or sarcasm. I like it. That's the most important factor to me. I would give it a solid B- though. Of course, that ancient review was before the discovery of Normanization.
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Heywood I hear what you're saying and I agree. This show is so very mediocre at best. Band is tight half the time and completely out of sync the rest. Audio is all over the place. It may be good for 83, but I can't think of an official release from the 70s that it's better than. I think it's a necessary step for the powers that be, to keep the guys who want 80s shows coming back, but fellas, perspective, it ain't great by a long stretch, and it's not in the same league of anything that's come before it. Except DaP 20. It's a far cry from the series mission statement. I'm fine with an 80s clunker every 8 - 12 releases since it keeps the machine moving.
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9/25/91avoided it for a long time finally gave it a proper listen H>S>F Roses > Dire Wolf all Disc 2 is great filler on disc three is 3/31/91 Eyes, 20+ minutes 9/26/91 would have been better, in my opinion, but this one's ok.
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Some of my earliest Grateful Dead collection consisted of a couple of tracks from Dicks Picks 17, Throwing Stones and the Mighty Quinn. At the time I was not yet a fully trained Jedi, and was cherry-picking songs from all of the available releases I had at my disposal. I loved throwing stones, especially the jam and solo, and of course I was a sucker for all of the great covers, so I downloaded the Mighty Quinn as well. Eventually I bought the whole thing, and quite frankly I love it. There's a smoothness to Vince's keyboards that I enjoy - thanks for the reminder Stoltzie, I think I'm going to put this on.
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Dick's Picks 17 was one of my early purchases as well. I've always been a sucker for Jerry's anthemic guitar solo on Throwing Stones but on this version, Bruce's piano absolutely steals the show! Pretty solid '91 release as I recall. It's been a while since I've listened.
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Anyone have an extra Dave's Picks 12 they want to sell? I have 25, 26, 27 to trade as well. PM me if so
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I completely agree...came back to see what others were thinking. This is a first - albeit big - disappointment from Dave's Picks.
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9/26/91 was a better show to pick for Dick's Picks 17. Someday, and hopefully very soon, 9/26/91 will be released. But the fact was already established to hold back on some of the jem-of-a-show for later and not to release all the best shows first so later down the road there would be no more great-to-excellent shows to see official release. The only parts of Dicks 17 I listen to anymore is the Help> Slip> Franklin's opener and the 2nd disc: Victim> Crazy> PITB> Terrapin> "Boston Clam Jam" Drums> Space. The Drums> Space really is neat when you're stuck in slow traffic. Most, if not all of my listening of music is done when I'm driving my car. I am totally grateful that this show was released.
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It looks like these verified fan presales are selling out fast. Arlington Theatre in Santa Barbara sold out in 15 minutes, but there are a couple of VIP seats left.
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Not even close. This is a nice release and it sounds fine. Now April 24, 1978 aka DaP 7, I might call a clunker. Never been a fan of that show, the sound of it or the performances. When quoting the "Bee Gee's Saturday Night Fever" during the "cowboy songs" is the big highlight, it's not a good show. In contrast, Jerry's playing on 9/3/82 far surpasses the dredge from 4/24/78. The show from 2 days prior, 4/22/78 (DaP 15) on the other hand, is a great show and far better.
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Wash your ears with soap, it helps.
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So uneven. A great time was had by all, however. You didn't "have to be there", but it certainly helps contextualize some of the awful GD archival product we occasionally hear.
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Working on another HD gift for a member of this board who contacted me for "more shows". I love being able to pay forward the kindness I've been blessed by from the good folks here. Sir, if you read this post please check your PMs. 76 is loaded, I await your instruction.
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