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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    My wife hates it....
    ....when our next door neighbor sunbathes topless in her backyard. Personally, I'm on the fence.
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    Full Show?
    Deadheadbrewer, are you talking about the Crimson, White and Indigo DVD? Does that have the full concert on it? Thanks.
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    Thought everyone was back on the Box thread.....duh! STOLTZY; careful dude! Hope your all good. And like Jim says, never either and glass! “There is nothing more depraved than a man during the height of an either binge” HST F&L (probably not verbatim) Dave’s etc; I’ve said before, I’ll say again.... It would be so easy if they annonced subscriptions, followed later by pre-sale for installment offered, added all those numbers up, then added X (few hundred or what not for people who can’t do now etc) THEN, Run production....all except the “extras” would be paid for in advance, all demand could be met, and they would end up with little or no overstock. Might mean having to wait longer between paying and receiving and, yes that would mean numbered would be essentially meaningless, but that would help keep resale prices down too. So folks like me who could/did not jump on the bandwagon early on could reasonably fill in collection gaps or wish lists..... Everyone would win......
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    Arguably the first post I have ever seen on here that is an apology. How refreshing! I am also sorry if my post seemed like a personal attack on you. It wasn't meant that way-I was just thinking of dreading's post-but it does look a bit dismissive of you. I have also worked as a manual labourer. I didn't last 5 minutes. I guess most of us make a contribution to society that is largely hidden. Sometimes even to ourselves. I for one would be sorry if you stopped posting on here.
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    Another Reason to Buy 1 yr Subscrition
    I have learned that the peace of mind that comes from knowing whatever falls apart in my life during the year, my Dave's is Pre-Ordered for that year. When personal tragedies prevent me from checking my 3 mailboxes daily, I know that at least I have one Pick's and that's enough for me. The taper inside me loves to make HDCD copies and downloads for my DEW Crew buddies from that one order. I would recommend that any serious listener go back to the basics. Two 3 way stereo floor standing speakers, Two 250 watt amps, a killer preamp and Denon HDCD dual tray dubbing deck. It is so nice hearing Jerry's n Brent's vocals from right channel, B3-organ both channels, Bobby guitar left channel , Jerry right channel and drums image in center.
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    First off, sorry if I offended anyone. I won't be goaded into name calling here. I will take the obtuse comment in stride as I think it's fair; I hadn't considered someone making a living off of eBay. I shouldn't be so snarky, but I'm glad I got some of your attention. I'd like to back track a little bit and explain my frustration: There seems to be a problem every time one of these Dave's Picks are released. With every new volume we see posts on this board by folks who weren't able to grab one. Simultaneously we also see posts by people who claim they have extra or frequently buy multiple copies. The problem solver in me was only trying to suggest a solution that might fix this re-ocurring problem. I've realized that in fact we aren't able to police ourselves in this regard. However I do think If people only bought copies for themselves the problem would not be so severe (Sell out in a matter of minutes!). Disregard my earlier post. Instead, I can only politely ask everyone here be considerate moving forward. I don't mean to pass judgement on anyone who has dabbled in aftermarket sales. I was one of those folks who had to sell off shows from the 30 trips set, in order to afford the shows that I wanted. You can call me a hypocrite if you like. I did not however buy multiple boxes. (I remember reading a post on here about a guy who bought 10 boxes to flip...) I think a lot of the regulars here are aware of the good Doc and how valued he was as a member here. While I think he was a good dude for his contributions that doesn't mean I agree with all of his actions (flipping extra copies). Same goes for KeithFan, I hope you don't mind me calling you out. I think you are among one of the better voices on here and I hope to graduate soon from the school of complete Europe 72. I do disagree with buying multiple copies, and would argue/respectfully debate what value you get from collecting extra copies like baseball cards. But it is your right to do so, and I certainly won't stop you. dreading, I'm sorry you don't like your job. It's irrelevant, but I work in residential construction. I've been stuck on hot roofs in the middle of the summer, and I've been framing houses in the dead of winter. I bust my ass everyday and I like to come home and drink beer and listen to music. Being in the trenches of manual labor, It is hard for me to have sympathy for people who say they don't like their job. Work is hard, it is supposed to be, that's why it's called work. But I understand where you are coming from now and it's your right to go right back to business as usual. I've got a ton of respect for record store owners in this day & age. It sounds like a really cool job to me, but I'm sorry that you don't like it. Anyways, I seem to be in the minority here. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on. Best of luck to all of you
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    Speaking of the Vault of music and video being out of the hands of the Grateful Dead, the Dead's home-grown in-house music publisher, Ice Nine that was once headed by Alan Trist is now a part of Universal Music Publishing Group. Now Ice Nine Publishing is part of a much larger corporation, just a piece of paper. Gone are the days... https://www.universalmusic.com/universal-music-publishing-group-signs-w… The name Ice Nine is from Kurt Vonnegut's novel,"Cats Cradle" https://blog.littlehippie.com/the-grateful-deads-ice-nine-is-a-vonnegut…
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    Well -- nice to get an 80s - pretty good sound given a cassette master - but it was when they switch to DAT on betamax they had real problems I believe. First impressions from listening party: Vocals nice and upfront - maybe a little too much - but better than some SBDs where Jerry's voice can be quite subdued (I can think of some 77 releases where the vocals are not that prominent and you have to strain a little to hear them)! Yeh - audience patch at the start of Big Railroad - but nicely done. Phil's Bass nice in the mix. Jerry on fire for sure. God - I hate that 80s SBD drum sound -- sounds like cardboard boxes being hit - lol! I'll take Brent on keys over late 77/78 Keith (once he'd started using the Yamaha CP60 electric grand - which usually sounds very "plunky". Don't get me wrong - I think Keith was a wonderful accompanist up to about sometime in 77 - though I never really think he hit a solo of any great worthiness ever -- someone prove me wrong. Certainly sounds like a better Pick than the 80s Betty Board from Boulder ?? (can't remember number offhand)
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    Last call: I’m looking for new/like new vols. 1-23, have new vol. 27 if anyone interested. PM if so and please let me know which vols. you’re willing to trade and condition. Love this pick, btw, looking forward to it! Also, someone said dp28 will be post-Brent. I’m not sure, I’m thinking more like 76, but I think that would be excellent. Give us some choice 91 or 93, oh yeah! PS: Gone.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Jason, Icecream, Alvarhanso: Interesting. So...basically we need 84, and 93-95. I've been saying 84 for some time and I recall a lot of really crisp boards from back in the day floating about. But I think definitely 93 and 94/95, as well, are very underrated years. The top shows from those years are really excellent, and of a whole other nature. Garcia ballads (dirge-like), drums/space, etc. Billy talks about it in Deal, that whole "missing album" (much of it featured on disc 5 of SMR) really could have been their best. Not holding my breath on these for DP28: Thinking 79, 76, or 70.
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Why do chicken coops only have two doors?Because if they had four, they'd be chicken sedans. Ararar.......... Nope, Vguy's funnier.
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I've now listened to this release several times. Disc 2 is such a fun time and will probably get repeated playings especially when I'm in the car...or jacked up on caffeine. Otherwise I'm not sure when I'll revisit the rest of show (though as I've mentioned, I really do like the release). Starting to turn my attention to the box set coming out next month. Spent the morning listening to DaP 2 (7/31/74). I still cannot believe we're about to get 6 shows from two of the best years the band ever had. The last few years have just been a barrage of amazing (and in some cases legendary) releases all happening at lightning speed (at least compared to the past). After this one though, it's all gravy.
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This refund is for the following item(s): Item: Dave's Picks Vol. 20 CU Events Center, Boulder, Co. 12/9/81 Quantity: 1 ASIN: B07 Reason for refund: Item out of stock Well, that's a bummer considering I got a "shipped" notice stating it was arriving tomorrow.
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I heard discs 1 & 2 today (so far) it's a strong show. not legendary, but strong and hot enough for a "three smiles up" rating. it sounds like classic 83 GD to me. yes, there is the splice in Eyes. Some other minor things here and there. I can live with that easily. I like this release a lot. I like that it is from the early 80s. more, Dave, please. release 6/10/73 and 11/19/72 first, and then more 80s.
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in his sunglasses and dirty grey hair, sitting back and coolly strumming the Baba crash cords with I guess the Tiger guitar, that looks like the old Gibson SG. I would love a still of that (i.e. Shirdeep's video posted below) Weir looks hysterical doing his Townshend-esque jump and pseudo windmill, but I love him still. Who's guitar dude #3? Also looks ridiculous jumping like Townshend. But it's all good fun, they know they look silly. First Baba I heard was an Napster download with no TNK attached to it (probably edited out). I have no idea from where it hails, but it sounds like a AUD recording, and the place goes bonkers when Vince sings the opening verse.
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I think it might be RFK '92. If it is then guitar guy #3 is Steve Miller. He opened the show & joined the boys during their set as well.:o)
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Folks, I'm trying to figure out if the recording/mixing quality of DP 27 is as marginal as most of my discs sound, or if perhaps I received some poorly "pressed" discs. The show is obviously great, but only song on all 3 discs that sounds like an "A" recording/mixing is the very last song, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue. This last song sounds fantastic, but most of the previous songs sound OK to marginal. Particularly, on Disc 1, Bobby's voice sounds like he was separated the band and was singing into a bad mic... or something like that. Anyone else experience this? I'll feel better is so. If not, I'll contact Dead.net to inquire about getting a replacement set. Thanks!
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Uh, no, there is nothing wrong with your discs (unless they have skips or won’t play), they were designed to sound like that. That’s what was in fashion in 1983. Put your seat back in it’s upright, locked position and hang up the phone. Do not call customer service (unless you actually have a defective disc that won’t play). Wait, maybe you should call customer service...... For more information on the special qualities of 1983 recordings just scroll down this page and take in all of the informative opinions.
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Nope, back on the phone with customer support. You have to ask them for the rose-colored glasses they send with some of these sets. A lot of people think it sounds great.
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I like this recording. After the first track, things seem to sharpen up. This isn't the best, but it most certainly isn't the worst.
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Have you folks realized that this Amazon account isn't legit?
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Hey Ummmmmm...can you expand on your statement? Thanks!
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...yeah, no. The "surplus" discs are coming from the returns department. In all likelihood, like we've already said, these are extras slated as replacements for defects. So, again as we've already suggested, they must be clearing house; and seem to have already cleared house. I was able to grab some of the DP, but had my order of Hampton box cancelled (sold out- as someone else here had for DP20). Re: Hampton cancellation, that makes sense, as I think when I ordered it said only "3" remaining.
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I took a shot, ordering Dave's 22 & 20. Scheduled to arrive today... they cancelled 20, so I'm interested to see what or if anything shows up.
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If this isn't the worst Dave's Pick release then what is?I've read a lot of posts on many other releases and have never seen so many people that think this is a king size turd. You have to work hard to justify and fool yourself into thinking this is great. I've given this 4 listens front to back now and still don't get it. Finally the last song was good. It's not even the sound quality, I can deal with that. It's the total lack of cohesiveness, horrible vocal harmonizing, and the guitars sounding like they're on different songs and tempos. This like defending your favorite restaurant even when the food has gone so downhill it's inedible.
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if ya hate it so much why not stop listening to it?Pick something else and relax.
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Perfect idea and already executed on, will probably never leave the expanding row of releases ever again. I listened to it enough times to be sure I wasn't being overly critical.... I wasn't. This is the first release out of 27 that I've ever complained.
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It's definitely Warner. You can tell by because they seemingly don't have a solid grasp on the amount left in inventory. I find it all quite humorous.. at this point, it's a gift to those that didn't get them and now can at cost, so it's hard to be bitter about it all. But this is not a scam vendor. It will be interesting to see how many 30 trips are left/how long they stay on sale. These things have become impossible to get.
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As seen on an ancient (1988) tape trader's list: 1983/09/02 - Boise ID, Pavilion, SBD - B+ --- What we really have here in this Dave's Picks 27 is a B+ (trader's sound quality rating) cassette that was painstakingly transformed into a three compact disc set by Jeffery Norman, supplied by Dave Lemieux.
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....I'm not sure if that is praise or sarcasm. I like it. That's the most important factor to me. I would give it a solid B- though. Of course, that ancient review was before the discovery of Normanization.
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Heywood I hear what you're saying and I agree. This show is so very mediocre at best. Band is tight half the time and completely out of sync the rest. Audio is all over the place. It may be good for 83, but I can't think of an official release from the 70s that it's better than. I think it's a necessary step for the powers that be, to keep the guys who want 80s shows coming back, but fellas, perspective, it ain't great by a long stretch, and it's not in the same league of anything that's come before it. Except DaP 20. It's a far cry from the series mission statement. I'm fine with an 80s clunker every 8 - 12 releases since it keeps the machine moving.
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9/25/91avoided it for a long time finally gave it a proper listen H>S>F Roses > Dire Wolf all Disc 2 is great filler on disc three is 3/31/91 Eyes, 20+ minutes 9/26/91 would have been better, in my opinion, but this one's ok.
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Some of my earliest Grateful Dead collection consisted of a couple of tracks from Dicks Picks 17, Throwing Stones and the Mighty Quinn. At the time I was not yet a fully trained Jedi, and was cherry-picking songs from all of the available releases I had at my disposal. I loved throwing stones, especially the jam and solo, and of course I was a sucker for all of the great covers, so I downloaded the Mighty Quinn as well. Eventually I bought the whole thing, and quite frankly I love it. There's a smoothness to Vince's keyboards that I enjoy - thanks for the reminder Stoltzie, I think I'm going to put this on.
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Dick's Picks 17 was one of my early purchases as well. I've always been a sucker for Jerry's anthemic guitar solo on Throwing Stones but on this version, Bruce's piano absolutely steals the show! Pretty solid '91 release as I recall. It's been a while since I've listened.
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Anyone have an extra Dave's Picks 12 they want to sell? I have 25, 26, 27 to trade as well. PM me if so
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I completely agree...came back to see what others were thinking. This is a first - albeit big - disappointment from Dave's Picks.
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9/26/91 was a better show to pick for Dick's Picks 17. Someday, and hopefully very soon, 9/26/91 will be released. But the fact was already established to hold back on some of the jem-of-a-show for later and not to release all the best shows first so later down the road there would be no more great-to-excellent shows to see official release. The only parts of Dicks 17 I listen to anymore is the Help> Slip> Franklin's opener and the 2nd disc: Victim> Crazy> PITB> Terrapin> "Boston Clam Jam" Drums> Space. The Drums> Space really is neat when you're stuck in slow traffic. Most, if not all of my listening of music is done when I'm driving my car. I am totally grateful that this show was released.
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It looks like these verified fan presales are selling out fast. Arlington Theatre in Santa Barbara sold out in 15 minutes, but there are a couple of VIP seats left.
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Not even close. This is a nice release and it sounds fine. Now April 24, 1978 aka DaP 7, I might call a clunker. Never been a fan of that show, the sound of it or the performances. When quoting the "Bee Gee's Saturday Night Fever" during the "cowboy songs" is the big highlight, it's not a good show. In contrast, Jerry's playing on 9/3/82 far surpasses the dredge from 4/24/78. The show from 2 days prior, 4/22/78 (DaP 15) on the other hand, is a great show and far better.
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Wash your ears with soap, it helps.
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So uneven. A great time was had by all, however. You didn't "have to be there", but it certainly helps contextualize some of the awful GD archival product we occasionally hear.
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Working on another HD gift for a member of this board who contacted me for "more shows". I love being able to pay forward the kindness I've been blessed by from the good folks here. Sir, if you read this post please check your PMs. 76 is loaded, I await your instruction.
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