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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Different perspectives-mhammond
    Well, it might, or might not be worth discussing-but it surely isn't worth arguing about! I think we have different perspectives-not on the subject in hand-part of me agrees with you on that, for what its worth-but on the way we discuss things. In the real, physical, world, I have friends who have similar interests to me, but we see those things in diverse ways-which, for me, makes for interesting discussion. You mentioned Shakespeare in one of your posts-and this is a subject I have discussed often with my friends. We go to The Globe Theatre in London, which is a reconstruction of the play house as it was in the 17th century. And the plays are performed in a traditional way, more or less. Or were. About three years ago, they started adapting them to fit in with modern ways of thinking. "Taming of the Shrew" was performed in such a way as to remove the sexism inherent in the text. I thought it was great. The bloke I went with thought it was terrible-and disrespectful to the original. We didn't fall out about it, though! Later in the year I saw "A Midsummer Nights Dream", which included modern pop songs. To me, it was hideous-but lots of people around me thought it was fantastic-especially young people. Neither of us were "right" or "wrong". In most issues there is surely no right or wrong, just different shades. Everybody on here likes The Dead to differing degrees for different reasons. The more people share their unique perspective the more interesting the board becomes. I would also say that it is possible-in fact desirable- for one person to have differing views on the same subject, at the same time, depending on the perspective they choose to take.
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    It's All Over Now Baby Blue
    I listened to the whole thing after getting it today and now I've got the encore rolling through my mind over and over ... WOW!
  • Seth Hollander
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    saw this last night
    I go to about 1 concert a year these days, not counting HardlyStrictlyBluegrass. I am not a big fan of the new Dave Alvin/Jimmie Dale Gilmore album, nor of the new Jon Langford album, but I love many records they've each done in the past. So off to the show I went. Someone standing on the other side of the audience from me videoed this and put it on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDDntOqTCgs
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    Dan would rather?
    Dan Rather has been doing these interviews with rock icons. The last one I made a point to watch was Robert Plant. Obviously, the eternal adolescent in me carries a torch for Zeppelin (you think)? and of course when Plant nixed the billion-dollar international megatour after that singularly brilliant O2 reunion show, I was bummed. And I was bummed when he wouldn't do Desert Trip with Jimmy, either. But I understand. Robert Plant can go out there in 2018 at age 69 and cover his old band's material, but with a fresh, "age-appropriate" (his term) take on it. This man has done what almost nobody coming from the wild-ass rock genre has been able to - remain on stage and age gracefully. He can go out there and sing "Whole Lotta Love" without the cock jeans and the dog in heat affectations of a 23 year-old, and still pull it off. Most of these guys in Ratt or whoever just look dumb in their cartoon heavy metal clothes singing the old hits that were relevant for five minutes in the 80s. But, you can't get a good real job now pushing 60 as that ship has sailed. No other option but to do the county fair/casino circuit to thinner crowds every year. Sad but true, but then it's been this way for decades. Glenn Miller, Sinatra, Elvis, The Beatles. Hey, at least Elvis "got more ass than a toilet seat." Not my line but hilarious and worth repeating. It's a fine line to go out there at 75 and sing the songs Mick Jagger does. But, with that first wave of post-blues bands (Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead, etc.) still carrying on, I'll take what I can get. In ten more years this will all be gone. There won't be any Stephen Stills out there playing electric shows. No more Paul McCartney on a massive stage. Charlie Watts' Duracell has got to crap out at some point. Someone here dropped this recently: "tender little cupcakes who normally fire off those barbs get all bent and whiny when they find them coming their way." I feel as if I have deserved to be the brunt of that one, even if it wasn't directed at me, for talking hard smack here over and over. But, y'know, sitting around the campfire the truth is bound to come out. There's no point in making Small Talk. Hollow, plastic redundant bullshit 'how you doing, Mrs. Blanfield? Oh, very well, Eugene, all the best to yer Mum!' Fuck that. It's good to know that some people still don't flinch when getting to the core of the truth. I try not to kick anyone square in the balls on the internet. It's weak, it's like being a telephone tough guy. I think I can say something like, "that chick has a nasty stinking pit hair forest," without coming from a place of hatred. Dark humor, maybe, but I reserve the right. "Brown Sugar" is horribly sexist and cast in a terribly inhumane setting that existed long ago. And still does just not in mainstream America. It was also recorded at Muscle Shoals and is one of the most heartfelt, soulful, ass-shakingest grooves ever this side of R.L. Burnside. Brown Sugar, turned up loud, feels so good. And isn't that what rock and roll is supposed to do? It is the devil's music, after all. \m/
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    Sound Quality
    Sound quality is very good, but is not as good as some of the more pristine stuff from the 70s. In terms of early 80s, it's among the best I've personally heard. Everything comes through pretty clear. Bass drum sounds a little flat but that's my only complaint. This mix is also very good, which is something that's sometimes a problem in the early 80s. Phil is well represented. Everyone else is fairly even. Overall something like a B+/A-, but surprisingly good after listening to a lot of fall 83 this week to get the flavor before I heard this one.
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    Sound Quality
    Sound quality is very good, but is not as good as some of the more pristine stuff from the 70s. In terms of early 80s, it's among the best I've personally heard. Everything comes through pretty clear. Bass drum sounds a little flat but that's my only complaint. This mix is also very good, which is something that's sometimes a problem in the early 80s. Phil is well represented. Everyone else is fairly even. Overall something like a B+/A-, but surprisingly good after listening to a lot of fall 83 this week to get the flavor before I heard this one.
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    Is the sound good or bad?
    I've read a couple reviews that the sound is good ("superb") and some say it doesn't pass the sound quality check at the door.
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    Just exactly perfect
    Haven’t posted in a while, but just had to say how fun this release is. The mix and Jerry’s tone are raw. The tempo is fast and reckless. And the overall sound is supurb. Great energy. And I’m still on disc one. Big thanks to everyone who keeps these high quality releases coming. They sure do brighten one’s day.
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    VGUY....THANK YOU
    for your YOUTUBE post. I was in tears as was my wife. From Elaine to Mr ED to Batman to Chrissy Snow and THE JACK TRIPPER...that was truly a classic. I think that is worth a post once a month.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Jason, Icecream, Alvarhanso: Interesting. So...basically we need 84, and 93-95. I've been saying 84 for some time and I recall a lot of really crisp boards from back in the day floating about. But I think definitely 93 and 94/95, as well, are very underrated years. The top shows from those years are really excellent, and of a whole other nature. Garcia ballads (dirge-like), drums/space, etc. Billy talks about it in Deal, that whole "missing album" (much of it featured on disc 5 of SMR) really could have been their best. Not holding my breath on these for DP28: Thinking 79, 76, or 70.
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Why do chicken coops only have two doors?Because if they had four, they'd be chicken sedans. Ararar.......... Nope, Vguy's funnier.
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I've now listened to this release several times. Disc 2 is such a fun time and will probably get repeated playings especially when I'm in the car...or jacked up on caffeine. Otherwise I'm not sure when I'll revisit the rest of show (though as I've mentioned, I really do like the release). Starting to turn my attention to the box set coming out next month. Spent the morning listening to DaP 2 (7/31/74). I still cannot believe we're about to get 6 shows from two of the best years the band ever had. The last few years have just been a barrage of amazing (and in some cases legendary) releases all happening at lightning speed (at least compared to the past). After this one though, it's all gravy.
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This refund is for the following item(s): Item: Dave's Picks Vol. 20 CU Events Center, Boulder, Co. 12/9/81 Quantity: 1 ASIN: B07 Reason for refund: Item out of stock Well, that's a bummer considering I got a "shipped" notice stating it was arriving tomorrow.
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I heard discs 1 & 2 today (so far) it's a strong show. not legendary, but strong and hot enough for a "three smiles up" rating. it sounds like classic 83 GD to me. yes, there is the splice in Eyes. Some other minor things here and there. I can live with that easily. I like this release a lot. I like that it is from the early 80s. more, Dave, please. release 6/10/73 and 11/19/72 first, and then more 80s.
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in his sunglasses and dirty grey hair, sitting back and coolly strumming the Baba crash cords with I guess the Tiger guitar, that looks like the old Gibson SG. I would love a still of that (i.e. Shirdeep's video posted below) Weir looks hysterical doing his Townshend-esque jump and pseudo windmill, but I love him still. Who's guitar dude #3? Also looks ridiculous jumping like Townshend. But it's all good fun, they know they look silly. First Baba I heard was an Napster download with no TNK attached to it (probably edited out). I have no idea from where it hails, but it sounds like a AUD recording, and the place goes bonkers when Vince sings the opening verse.
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I think it might be RFK '92. If it is then guitar guy #3 is Steve Miller. He opened the show & joined the boys during their set as well.:o)
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Folks, I'm trying to figure out if the recording/mixing quality of DP 27 is as marginal as most of my discs sound, or if perhaps I received some poorly "pressed" discs. The show is obviously great, but only song on all 3 discs that sounds like an "A" recording/mixing is the very last song, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue. This last song sounds fantastic, but most of the previous songs sound OK to marginal. Particularly, on Disc 1, Bobby's voice sounds like he was separated the band and was singing into a bad mic... or something like that. Anyone else experience this? I'll feel better is so. If not, I'll contact Dead.net to inquire about getting a replacement set. Thanks!
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Uh, no, there is nothing wrong with your discs (unless they have skips or won’t play), they were designed to sound like that. That’s what was in fashion in 1983. Put your seat back in it’s upright, locked position and hang up the phone. Do not call customer service (unless you actually have a defective disc that won’t play). Wait, maybe you should call customer service...... For more information on the special qualities of 1983 recordings just scroll down this page and take in all of the informative opinions.
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Nope, back on the phone with customer support. You have to ask them for the rose-colored glasses they send with some of these sets. A lot of people think it sounds great.
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I like this recording. After the first track, things seem to sharpen up. This isn't the best, but it most certainly isn't the worst.
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Have you folks realized that this Amazon account isn't legit?
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Hey Ummmmmm...can you expand on your statement? Thanks!
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...yeah, no. The "surplus" discs are coming from the returns department. In all likelihood, like we've already said, these are extras slated as replacements for defects. So, again as we've already suggested, they must be clearing house; and seem to have already cleared house. I was able to grab some of the DP, but had my order of Hampton box cancelled (sold out- as someone else here had for DP20). Re: Hampton cancellation, that makes sense, as I think when I ordered it said only "3" remaining.
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I took a shot, ordering Dave's 22 & 20. Scheduled to arrive today... they cancelled 20, so I'm interested to see what or if anything shows up.
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If this isn't the worst Dave's Pick release then what is?I've read a lot of posts on many other releases and have never seen so many people that think this is a king size turd. You have to work hard to justify and fool yourself into thinking this is great. I've given this 4 listens front to back now and still don't get it. Finally the last song was good. It's not even the sound quality, I can deal with that. It's the total lack of cohesiveness, horrible vocal harmonizing, and the guitars sounding like they're on different songs and tempos. This like defending your favorite restaurant even when the food has gone so downhill it's inedible.
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if ya hate it so much why not stop listening to it?Pick something else and relax.
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Perfect idea and already executed on, will probably never leave the expanding row of releases ever again. I listened to it enough times to be sure I wasn't being overly critical.... I wasn't. This is the first release out of 27 that I've ever complained.
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It's definitely Warner. You can tell by because they seemingly don't have a solid grasp on the amount left in inventory. I find it all quite humorous.. at this point, it's a gift to those that didn't get them and now can at cost, so it's hard to be bitter about it all. But this is not a scam vendor. It will be interesting to see how many 30 trips are left/how long they stay on sale. These things have become impossible to get.
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As seen on an ancient (1988) tape trader's list: 1983/09/02 - Boise ID, Pavilion, SBD - B+ --- What we really have here in this Dave's Picks 27 is a B+ (trader's sound quality rating) cassette that was painstakingly transformed into a three compact disc set by Jeffery Norman, supplied by Dave Lemieux.
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....I'm not sure if that is praise or sarcasm. I like it. That's the most important factor to me. I would give it a solid B- though. Of course, that ancient review was before the discovery of Normanization.
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Heywood I hear what you're saying and I agree. This show is so very mediocre at best. Band is tight half the time and completely out of sync the rest. Audio is all over the place. It may be good for 83, but I can't think of an official release from the 70s that it's better than. I think it's a necessary step for the powers that be, to keep the guys who want 80s shows coming back, but fellas, perspective, it ain't great by a long stretch, and it's not in the same league of anything that's come before it. Except DaP 20. It's a far cry from the series mission statement. I'm fine with an 80s clunker every 8 - 12 releases since it keeps the machine moving.
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9/25/91avoided it for a long time finally gave it a proper listen H>S>F Roses > Dire Wolf all Disc 2 is great filler on disc three is 3/31/91 Eyes, 20+ minutes 9/26/91 would have been better, in my opinion, but this one's ok.
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Some of my earliest Grateful Dead collection consisted of a couple of tracks from Dicks Picks 17, Throwing Stones and the Mighty Quinn. At the time I was not yet a fully trained Jedi, and was cherry-picking songs from all of the available releases I had at my disposal. I loved throwing stones, especially the jam and solo, and of course I was a sucker for all of the great covers, so I downloaded the Mighty Quinn as well. Eventually I bought the whole thing, and quite frankly I love it. There's a smoothness to Vince's keyboards that I enjoy - thanks for the reminder Stoltzie, I think I'm going to put this on.
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Dick's Picks 17 was one of my early purchases as well. I've always been a sucker for Jerry's anthemic guitar solo on Throwing Stones but on this version, Bruce's piano absolutely steals the show! Pretty solid '91 release as I recall. It's been a while since I've listened.
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Anyone have an extra Dave's Picks 12 they want to sell? I have 25, 26, 27 to trade as well. PM me if so
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I completely agree...came back to see what others were thinking. This is a first - albeit big - disappointment from Dave's Picks.
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9/26/91 was a better show to pick for Dick's Picks 17. Someday, and hopefully very soon, 9/26/91 will be released. But the fact was already established to hold back on some of the jem-of-a-show for later and not to release all the best shows first so later down the road there would be no more great-to-excellent shows to see official release. The only parts of Dicks 17 I listen to anymore is the Help> Slip> Franklin's opener and the 2nd disc: Victim> Crazy> PITB> Terrapin> "Boston Clam Jam" Drums> Space. The Drums> Space really is neat when you're stuck in slow traffic. Most, if not all of my listening of music is done when I'm driving my car. I am totally grateful that this show was released.
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It looks like these verified fan presales are selling out fast. Arlington Theatre in Santa Barbara sold out in 15 minutes, but there are a couple of VIP seats left.
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Not even close. This is a nice release and it sounds fine. Now April 24, 1978 aka DaP 7, I might call a clunker. Never been a fan of that show, the sound of it or the performances. When quoting the "Bee Gee's Saturday Night Fever" during the "cowboy songs" is the big highlight, it's not a good show. In contrast, Jerry's playing on 9/3/82 far surpasses the dredge from 4/24/78. The show from 2 days prior, 4/22/78 (DaP 15) on the other hand, is a great show and far better.
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Wash your ears with soap, it helps.
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So uneven. A great time was had by all, however. You didn't "have to be there", but it certainly helps contextualize some of the awful GD archival product we occasionally hear.
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Working on another HD gift for a member of this board who contacted me for "more shows". I love being able to pay forward the kindness I've been blessed by from the good folks here. Sir, if you read this post please check your PMs. 76 is loaded, I await your instruction.
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