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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • stoltzfus
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    worth your time also 4/19/82
  • SkullTrip
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    Seriously, what's with all the name calling? Taste in anything is subjective, especially when it comes to music, art, film, etc. It's all about how the music resonates with the individual. If it makes you feel good, then it's doing its job. Again, Jerry's often quoted licorice analogy comes to mind. Some dig black, some dig red, some dig both, and others don't dig licorice at all. The need for validation through a sense of sameness is one of the primary causes of human discontent and unhappiness. Just because you don't see it or hear it the same as someone else, doesn't make them wrong or stupid, etc. Personally, this show is like nails on a chalkboard to my ears. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate its historical relevance, nor does it negate anyone else's overall appreciation for it. I'm on this site to experience different perspectives, find out about shows that I'm unfamiliar with, and learn things about the Dead that I may not already know. But the immaturity and insecurity of name calling honestly kills the vibe for me. Just saying.
  • Thin
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    Thank you for the sober, well written post. Your objectivity tells me your opinions are likely reliable. Any post that is all positive or all negative tends to just be unreliable noise by era hard-liners with an axe to grind. Era rhetoric gets absurd, sometimes comical.
  • Dennis
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    Mcgrupp and a band beyond description
    ...and yet the descriptions NEVER stop,,, never stop, never stop, never stop....
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Yet another reminder why I can't get into that band. Happy for all of you do enjoy them tho'
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    Don't believe the hyperbole either way. This show is not the best show with amazing sound and definitive versions of songs, but it is also not a terrible show with awful sound that is unlistenable. My opinion is this: I like receiving a show from an otherwise little tapped era; the sound is not crystal clear like many 70s or late 80s recordings but it is much better than the Alpine 82 Dick's Picks and the Spectrum 82 Road Trips; and the performance is generally just fine-- again, not definitive, but good enough. In brief, I like adding this show to my collection. Songs that stuck out as good versions to me on this recording: I love the Wang Dang Doodle opener and the Jack Straw that follows is good enough. I always like Minglewood and the Deal closer is a scorcher. The Help-Slip-Frank is solid (not better than any in 76 or 77 though), I think the Estimated is lackluster and the Eyes is rushed. The jam and space segments are interesting. The jam in Throwing Stones I will describe as 'Chaos.' I am not sure what is happening there-- I haven't listened to early versions of it, so maybe this is the norm for the era? Regardless, that 'solo' is just noise to me. Maybe another listen will reveal more. The Black Peter has some really rough vocals. I agree with Slow Noodle, two Black Peters released in the past year run circles around this one. Jerry's vocals are pretty bad here. BP is not my favorite tune, but the version on Berkeley 72 made me sit up and take notice-- just an exquisite version, beautiful and perfect in every way. This one, not so much. I will probably listen to this show sometimes and as I said earlier-- good to have a decent show from an era without many releases.
  • Thin
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    Agreed - but '83 had more great MOMENTS or sets than complete, great "shows". Brilliant peaks followed by lotsa murky valleys... Jerry's '83 uninspired heroin drenched brain, morbid obesity/lack of stamina and voice, and general grumpy-cat staring-emptily-over-my-belly-at-just-the-tips-of-my-wallabees-over-my-glasses-teetering-on-the-end-of-my-nose demeanor made "inspired complete shows" mostly a thing of the past. But there are some amazing '83 nuggets for sure. The '83 TTATS show (10/21/83 in Woostah!!!) is a goody! I attended 10/15/83 (my 2nd show) with the St. Stephen and the RIPPING Big RxR Blues, but honestly much of that show (generally considered one of the years best) plods along unremarkably. Kinda like watching Sinatra in his later years - yes some inspired moments and glimpses of the old charisma (being reaaaally generous on the charisma based on my comment that ends my first paragraph), but from an execution standpoint just a shadow of their former glory.
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    Thanks Dave, Jeffrey and staff
    First I want to once again thank you guys for the hard work and great care obviously put into the Dave's Picks Volume 27 release. I appreciate the release on a historical level, as there are not many early 1980s shows in my collection. With that said,I had to take a break from East Coast shows between fall 1980 through 1984. My first show in a while, and I believe it was in October 1984 at Brendan Byrne in East Rutherford was a bit of an upset. In those days, there was a ticket service called Ticketron, and I bought a ticket on the day of the first show,rented a car, and drove out to Jersey.The seat was right to the side of Jerry, and was stunned when the band came out by his physical appearance, and demeanor. This was not the Garcia I last saw at Nassau in May 1980. Something was wrong.Don't need to elaborate any further, but with that said I think this release is important in context that it reflects the changes happening with the band in regard to live performances.In the end, glad to be a subscriber, and appreciate every release! Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the summer...
  • Thin
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    I just mentioned my second show, and Dennis (the guy asking for an end to the name-calling - what a stupid idiot ;) then mentions my first!! 4/16/83 with Looks Like Rain. This was one of my favorite songs and I was so happy they played it. But even as a 15-yr old newbie watching from center-ice, 8 rows up on the left side, I knew that they weren't "on" this night (LLRain WAS good, but I loved this song too much to be objective). 4/17/83, the next night, was better though sadly I wasn't there. I was HUGE into CSNY at the time and was stoked to see Stephen Stills sit in. Quite a first-show treat. Then my 2nd show I got the Hartford St. Stephen - the Gods were smiling on me, making sure to set the hook hard. And it's still there, though I really haven't listened to much Dead for a few months... breather....
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Jason, Icecream, Alvarhanso: Interesting. So...basically we need 84, and 93-95. I've been saying 84 for some time and I recall a lot of really crisp boards from back in the day floating about. But I think definitely 93 and 94/95, as well, are very underrated years. The top shows from those years are really excellent, and of a whole other nature. Garcia ballads (dirge-like), drums/space, etc. Billy talks about it in Deal, that whole "missing album" (much of it featured on disc 5 of SMR) really could have been their best. Not holding my breath on these for DP28: Thinking 79, 76, or 70.
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Why do chicken coops only have two doors?Because if they had four, they'd be chicken sedans. Ararar.......... Nope, Vguy's funnier.
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I've now listened to this release several times. Disc 2 is such a fun time and will probably get repeated playings especially when I'm in the car...or jacked up on caffeine. Otherwise I'm not sure when I'll revisit the rest of show (though as I've mentioned, I really do like the release). Starting to turn my attention to the box set coming out next month. Spent the morning listening to DaP 2 (7/31/74). I still cannot believe we're about to get 6 shows from two of the best years the band ever had. The last few years have just been a barrage of amazing (and in some cases legendary) releases all happening at lightning speed (at least compared to the past). After this one though, it's all gravy.
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This refund is for the following item(s): Item: Dave's Picks Vol. 20 CU Events Center, Boulder, Co. 12/9/81 Quantity: 1 ASIN: B07 Reason for refund: Item out of stock Well, that's a bummer considering I got a "shipped" notice stating it was arriving tomorrow.
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I heard discs 1 & 2 today (so far) it's a strong show. not legendary, but strong and hot enough for a "three smiles up" rating. it sounds like classic 83 GD to me. yes, there is the splice in Eyes. Some other minor things here and there. I can live with that easily. I like this release a lot. I like that it is from the early 80s. more, Dave, please. release 6/10/73 and 11/19/72 first, and then more 80s.
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in his sunglasses and dirty grey hair, sitting back and coolly strumming the Baba crash cords with I guess the Tiger guitar, that looks like the old Gibson SG. I would love a still of that (i.e. Shirdeep's video posted below) Weir looks hysterical doing his Townshend-esque jump and pseudo windmill, but I love him still. Who's guitar dude #3? Also looks ridiculous jumping like Townshend. But it's all good fun, they know they look silly. First Baba I heard was an Napster download with no TNK attached to it (probably edited out). I have no idea from where it hails, but it sounds like a AUD recording, and the place goes bonkers when Vince sings the opening verse.
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I think it might be RFK '92. If it is then guitar guy #3 is Steve Miller. He opened the show & joined the boys during their set as well.:o)
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Folks, I'm trying to figure out if the recording/mixing quality of DP 27 is as marginal as most of my discs sound, or if perhaps I received some poorly "pressed" discs. The show is obviously great, but only song on all 3 discs that sounds like an "A" recording/mixing is the very last song, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue. This last song sounds fantastic, but most of the previous songs sound OK to marginal. Particularly, on Disc 1, Bobby's voice sounds like he was separated the band and was singing into a bad mic... or something like that. Anyone else experience this? I'll feel better is so. If not, I'll contact Dead.net to inquire about getting a replacement set. Thanks!
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Uh, no, there is nothing wrong with your discs (unless they have skips or won’t play), they were designed to sound like that. That’s what was in fashion in 1983. Put your seat back in it’s upright, locked position and hang up the phone. Do not call customer service (unless you actually have a defective disc that won’t play). Wait, maybe you should call customer service...... For more information on the special qualities of 1983 recordings just scroll down this page and take in all of the informative opinions.
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Nope, back on the phone with customer support. You have to ask them for the rose-colored glasses they send with some of these sets. A lot of people think it sounds great.
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I like this recording. After the first track, things seem to sharpen up. This isn't the best, but it most certainly isn't the worst.
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Have you folks realized that this Amazon account isn't legit?
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Hey Ummmmmm...can you expand on your statement? Thanks!
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...yeah, no. The "surplus" discs are coming from the returns department. In all likelihood, like we've already said, these are extras slated as replacements for defects. So, again as we've already suggested, they must be clearing house; and seem to have already cleared house. I was able to grab some of the DP, but had my order of Hampton box cancelled (sold out- as someone else here had for DP20). Re: Hampton cancellation, that makes sense, as I think when I ordered it said only "3" remaining.
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I took a shot, ordering Dave's 22 & 20. Scheduled to arrive today... they cancelled 20, so I'm interested to see what or if anything shows up.
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If this isn't the worst Dave's Pick release then what is?I've read a lot of posts on many other releases and have never seen so many people that think this is a king size turd. You have to work hard to justify and fool yourself into thinking this is great. I've given this 4 listens front to back now and still don't get it. Finally the last song was good. It's not even the sound quality, I can deal with that. It's the total lack of cohesiveness, horrible vocal harmonizing, and the guitars sounding like they're on different songs and tempos. This like defending your favorite restaurant even when the food has gone so downhill it's inedible.
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if ya hate it so much why not stop listening to it?Pick something else and relax.
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Perfect idea and already executed on, will probably never leave the expanding row of releases ever again. I listened to it enough times to be sure I wasn't being overly critical.... I wasn't. This is the first release out of 27 that I've ever complained.
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It's definitely Warner. You can tell by because they seemingly don't have a solid grasp on the amount left in inventory. I find it all quite humorous.. at this point, it's a gift to those that didn't get them and now can at cost, so it's hard to be bitter about it all. But this is not a scam vendor. It will be interesting to see how many 30 trips are left/how long they stay on sale. These things have become impossible to get.
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As seen on an ancient (1988) tape trader's list: 1983/09/02 - Boise ID, Pavilion, SBD - B+ --- What we really have here in this Dave's Picks 27 is a B+ (trader's sound quality rating) cassette that was painstakingly transformed into a three compact disc set by Jeffery Norman, supplied by Dave Lemieux.
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....I'm not sure if that is praise or sarcasm. I like it. That's the most important factor to me. I would give it a solid B- though. Of course, that ancient review was before the discovery of Normanization.
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Heywood I hear what you're saying and I agree. This show is so very mediocre at best. Band is tight half the time and completely out of sync the rest. Audio is all over the place. It may be good for 83, but I can't think of an official release from the 70s that it's better than. I think it's a necessary step for the powers that be, to keep the guys who want 80s shows coming back, but fellas, perspective, it ain't great by a long stretch, and it's not in the same league of anything that's come before it. Except DaP 20. It's a far cry from the series mission statement. I'm fine with an 80s clunker every 8 - 12 releases since it keeps the machine moving.
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9/25/91avoided it for a long time finally gave it a proper listen H>S>F Roses > Dire Wolf all Disc 2 is great filler on disc three is 3/31/91 Eyes, 20+ minutes 9/26/91 would have been better, in my opinion, but this one's ok.
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Some of my earliest Grateful Dead collection consisted of a couple of tracks from Dicks Picks 17, Throwing Stones and the Mighty Quinn. At the time I was not yet a fully trained Jedi, and was cherry-picking songs from all of the available releases I had at my disposal. I loved throwing stones, especially the jam and solo, and of course I was a sucker for all of the great covers, so I downloaded the Mighty Quinn as well. Eventually I bought the whole thing, and quite frankly I love it. There's a smoothness to Vince's keyboards that I enjoy - thanks for the reminder Stoltzie, I think I'm going to put this on.
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Dick's Picks 17 was one of my early purchases as well. I've always been a sucker for Jerry's anthemic guitar solo on Throwing Stones but on this version, Bruce's piano absolutely steals the show! Pretty solid '91 release as I recall. It's been a while since I've listened.
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Anyone have an extra Dave's Picks 12 they want to sell? I have 25, 26, 27 to trade as well. PM me if so
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I completely agree...came back to see what others were thinking. This is a first - albeit big - disappointment from Dave's Picks.
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9/26/91 was a better show to pick for Dick's Picks 17. Someday, and hopefully very soon, 9/26/91 will be released. But the fact was already established to hold back on some of the jem-of-a-show for later and not to release all the best shows first so later down the road there would be no more great-to-excellent shows to see official release. The only parts of Dicks 17 I listen to anymore is the Help> Slip> Franklin's opener and the 2nd disc: Victim> Crazy> PITB> Terrapin> "Boston Clam Jam" Drums> Space. The Drums> Space really is neat when you're stuck in slow traffic. Most, if not all of my listening of music is done when I'm driving my car. I am totally grateful that this show was released.
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It looks like these verified fan presales are selling out fast. Arlington Theatre in Santa Barbara sold out in 15 minutes, but there are a couple of VIP seats left.
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Not even close. This is a nice release and it sounds fine. Now April 24, 1978 aka DaP 7, I might call a clunker. Never been a fan of that show, the sound of it or the performances. When quoting the "Bee Gee's Saturday Night Fever" during the "cowboy songs" is the big highlight, it's not a good show. In contrast, Jerry's playing on 9/3/82 far surpasses the dredge from 4/24/78. The show from 2 days prior, 4/22/78 (DaP 15) on the other hand, is a great show and far better.
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Wash your ears with soap, it helps.
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So uneven. A great time was had by all, however. You didn't "have to be there", but it certainly helps contextualize some of the awful GD archival product we occasionally hear.
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Working on another HD gift for a member of this board who contacted me for "more shows". I love being able to pay forward the kindness I've been blessed by from the good folks here. Sir, if you read this post please check your PMs. 76 is loaded, I await your instruction.
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