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    marye
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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    I don't have a DVD burner but can read & copy the flac DVDs
    on my computer, which is what I have done with several 'flac only' offerings.. Computer does recognize DVDs & somehow I was able to even listen to them a couple weeks ago (can't figure it out right now how I did that, however). Hope to convert those DVDs soon (esp. my Dr. John vine) as I do have several waiting. Lopezz sent me some programs to help with my converting some of the flac DVDs that I have gotten from here (and elsewhere). I hope to get to this process, possibly this weekend if I can get computer time from wife (work) and son (school). I recognize the cost issue as far as sending stuff out. I feel like it is fair with all the wonderful & transportive music I am getting. But I will figure it out. Even with my flintsonean skill level. ;o} marye, what do I do without any hair to pull out? Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.
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    to say that having had to learn flac conversion for the vine currently in my possession, I tore my hair for about half an hour (much of that devoted to downloading a free program that didn't work, but the shareware SoundConverter seems to work fine and was worth the 14 bucks) and after that it was all pretty clear sailing. And my new computer (sigh...) has a good DVD drive. I do agree that the lack of a DVD drive is a more formidable obstacle for many folks than the conversion itself.
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    can sound fantastic Witness the mindboggling 24 Bit versions of the of the fabulous April 71 shows that are appearing these days (the latest is 4-26-71). The main drawbacks are that the files are MUCH bigger and you cannot convert them to WAV (without losing all the audio benefits). And of course the audio source must be of good quality to be be able to make a difference. To listen you have two main choices Play through a 24 Sound Card or Digital Audio Converter. Your PC is unlikely to have such a thing internally. I have an external 24 Bit box that sits between my computer and my hi-fi. Its not the best you can get but it does the job. Burn to an Audio DVD or Video DVD and play through a suitable player. You can find out much more about entering the world of 24 bit by reading this http://24bit.turtleside.com/ and through this discussion http://www.shnflac.net/forum.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=10231 WOW as I write I see that a new 24 Bit Matrix of 74-6-23 Jai Alai Fronton has just appeared.
  • JackstrawfromC…
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    It's all good
    Like I said, I am on board with whatever format people choose. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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    I see JSFC`s point also
    In the past I have educated a few people on the how too`s of converting . personally I prefer dvd because i just copy straigh into a hard drive then burn later . but yes whatever media is fine with me . I too am just happy to have a place and kind folks to do this vine stuff with !!
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    I don't think you need to have a DVD burner to read DVD's. Hippy doesn't have a DVD burner but still does FLAC because his drive can at least read DVD's. FLACless, please comment
  • JackstrawfromC…
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    I think the problem is more over being dvd-less
    Than being flac-less. I don't mean this is in a bad way or anything but I do understand if one doesn't have a DVD burner and usually that is how flac/shn are delivered is on dvd. But what I don't understand is why the flacless cannot convert flac/shn to wav. Conversion is just too easy to do for it to be a problem and limitation. My point is if we want to reduce postage costs (yes I do) the best thing is flac/shn on dvd but it makes more sense to me to put flac/shn on CD's rather than on dvd's instead of putting wav onto dvd if our goal is to look out for our friends with limitations. Because I just don't think flac-less should be a limitation. Anyways, just my opinion, in the end I don't mind how we do this vining stuff, I'm just glad it is here for us all to enjoy no matter what are media preferences :-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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    Recently, I've been seeing more and more 24-bit posts of classic shows on the Archive - could this format be the WAV of the future? " Where does the time go? "
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    I think that sounds like a good idea. That way the flacless would get the text document with the set and lineage info . of course if one wanted to do a multi show vine it would have to be on muti DVD`s. and that would put an end to converting and extra postage. I actualy passed on a few vines that got converted becuz of the extra weight .
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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Thanks cosmicbadger.
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Hey there. Like zep I also truly appreciate all the kind heads that are seeding and vining here. I created a nice spreadsheet for my vines and will not let anyone down! Thanks again to all in the vineyard. You all rock! Joe (TheNuthatch)
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I discovered the "Vineyard" during the 30Days promo. Thanks to all the people who have contributed to this process and continue to do so. As I learn this process, please don't hesitate to send me PM with your comments or suggestions. I look forward to making my collection of shows available to others and picking up some great new music. Best Wishes to All and THANK YOU!! Jimmy
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Welcome Jimmy & Joe.
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Welcome Jimmy, Joe and others. Feel free to ask questions in this thread or even to PM me. In case you don't know, Trader's Little Helper is all you need for SHN/FLAC. Hope you stay for a long time!
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Nice job man thanks a lot!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Just checkin in to say hello to all my vineyard friends . Life has been kinda odd for me, I have been out. On the road since august . Been all over this beautifully land of ours. Have missed all you guys and wanted to let you all know I am still alive . And while I am here welcome aboard to the new folks ! Take care everyone , gotta get back trucking ah ha ah ha .. " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "
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thanks for dropping by. Happy travels!
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Hey Stu. Glad to hear from you. Say warm down there in FL.
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nice to see you. Don't be a stranger.
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Give us some details if you have time. Hope you are well!
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I must have been three sheets to the wind when I typed this....
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I doubt anyone would have noticed had you not brought attention to your post. Welcome back, STUMAN. Thanks for the update Badger. Has anyone heard from Trevor/Hippie Guy? Its been a while. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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I received a pm from him back on Aug 11 in response to a reseed and he said he doesnt really do the vine stuff anymore. Thats the last I've heard from him. Hope all is well
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I chatted with him about a month ago and he said he was just taking some time off, doing some other things.
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got my first delivery today (from m.austin)hope I'm doing this stuff right - seems easy enough just a drag and drop to get it copied -except for the audio CDs- standard ripping for them. thanks to dstache for the Trader's Little Helper tips! Now to the individual vines to update them. Thanks All
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Well I got back on this big road back in august and only been home for 7 days in October. Have not had any time off since then. I missed my wedding anniversary, the wife birthday and will miss the holidays. Just try'n to get ahead in life. It's rough out here but it feels good to be back on this big road. If anyone wants to follow my travels I am on Facebook,, send me a friend request. You all drive safe , hope you all have a safe and happy holiday season ! " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "
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back in the vineyard, sorry for the vines I delayed, am devoting much of this weekend to getting out the vines that have been sitting with me nice to see the music is still going strong peace If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Glad to see that you are back
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Most of my computer troubles are behind me now (fingers crossed). I hope everyone here has a happy and safe holiday. Its good to see so many people, new and old still using the vineyard.
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how have you all accomodated viners across the big pond? do you actually send the vine to them, make a copy and send it to them, or what. a vine can just as easily die here as it could there.i know that there are viners here from overseas, but just curious as to what has been done in the past.
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I think we have had vines go all over the place from Canada, Europe, and to Australia and back. Other than lag-time, I don't recall any problems. I have mailed small packages to England, and I don't recall it being expensive--maybe a few dollars more. Use the US Post Office and not a private quick & ship business because it's a lot cheaper.
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traded discs across the pond, and it's almost less expensive to send to europe than it is to canada. just looking for some input here thats all.
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It used to be that we would set up Euro only vines, but as less Euros, and less Americans, are vining, that has gone the way of cassette tapes. I have recently sent a vine to Europe. I think it is fine. As long as postage isn't more than a few bucks more, I don't have a problem with it.
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Also, Happy Holidays to everyone. I had to comment that I just logged on there were only three members logged on. A few weeks ago when they were giving away a free download each day, there were HUNDREDS of people logged on all the time. My dad used to say that people would line up for dog crap--if it was being given away free. Its ironic when you think about how much free music is available to all here in the vineyard! "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."
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Yep, I have been camped out here lately. The new guys like Jimmy and Matt have sorta brought new life to the vineyard--kinda energized the place. No offense, but I am glad it's not so crowded now because I had a hard time logging on during those peak "free giveaway" weeks. Merry Christmas all
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on the 30 days thing. Was there anything "new" released. By that I mean anything not in the vineyard or on Archive.org?
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I stopped paying attention the last 10 days, but there was at least 1, and I think at least 2 tracks, that came from either uncirculated shows or SBD sources. One was one of the Fall 81 acoustic shows. I think there was a 66-68 show too. They only released 1 song per day, and each day was a different show. What was remarkable to me was how good the sound quality was for some of this stuff. Officially releasing this stuff would upgrade the sound quality for some of these shows. Of course, that will never happen in our lifetime, at least not at a price that we would be willing to pay.
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sorry zepthompson; I forgot to include you as one of the new guys.
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especially when a new page comes along happy to be here and digging on all the fine music listening to Hot Tuna right now (from a FWGV vine) getting to know some new people - making new friends what its all about new to flac and wave format - but adjusting nicely Thanks guys! -zep. (for short - and easier to spell)
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Thanks to all the fine folk here Happy Holidays
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Everyone have a very Jerry Christmas and a Happy New Weir! (cheezy, but had to be said) Joe
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Hope all my vining friends are having an awesome holiday!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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And for all those with wee ones have a Great time in a few hrs.Bless you all be safe. And have fun. Smiley Dave Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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IMHO 76 is without a doubt JGB at it's best. Followed by 77 & 78 of course. I know a lot of heads aren't fond of Donna in the Dead, but her and Jerry really had it together in the Jerry Garcia Band. To me 1976 JGB rivals the 1977 Grateful Dead run. Its really hard to find a bad show, you know. Awesome vine dstache!
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Here are the shows recommended by the editors and/or reviewers in the Compendium for the years 1990-1992. I omitted some shows I already have (presumably from vines) and those that I know have either been vined or officially released. I'm sure I missed some so please check before you vine anything. 1990: 9/7, 9/11, 9/12, 9/14, 9/15, 9/18 , 9/19, 10/17, 10/19, 10/20, 10/27, 10/30, 10/31, 12/3, 12/4, 12/9, 12/12, 12/13 and 12/14 12/12 is especially recommended. The Sept MSG (less 9/16 which has been officially released) and Dec Denver (12/12-14) runs would be tasty vine fodder. 1991 It seems like just about every show is supposed to be good. 3/20, 3/27, 3/31, 4/1, 4/3, 4/4, 4/5, 4/8, 4/27, 4/28, 5/3, 5/4, 5/5, 5/10, 5/11, 5/12, 6/6, 6/7, 6/9, 6/11, 6/12, 6/14, 6/17, 6/19, 6/20, 6/22, 6/24, 6/25, 6/28, 8/14, 8/16, 8/17, 8/18, 9/4, 9/6, 9/12, 9/13, 9/14, 9/18 and 10/31 3/31, 4/1, 6/14 and 6/17 are especially recommended. And although I did not list it above, because I already have it in A- AUD, the September Boston run (9/20-26) in SBD would be awesome! 1992 3/1, 3/2, 3/5, 3/6, 3/8, 3/9, 3/12, 3/13, 3/20, 5/21, 5/24, 5/29, 5/30, 5/31, 6/17, 6/18, 6/20, 6/23, 6/25, 6/28, 7/1, 12/5, 12/6, 12/12, 12/13, 12/16 and 12/17. 3/2, 5/31, 6/28 and 7/1 are especially recommended. The May Vegas run (5/29-31) looks to be one of the best. I'm basing all this on the Compendium, and they are not always right. If you have some hot shows that aren't listed, I am game to give 'em a listen. I will try to post re: 93-95 later this weekend.
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the Dec. Denver run (12,13, & 14). the first two nites bruce hornsby sits in with them. Excellent shows start to finish. Just got in after traveling to see family for the holidays and have a stack of vines to weed through. I'll get all the info to marye so she can give it a home.Happy New Year all!!!!
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I wish everyone a happy new year. I prefer '94 and '95 over late 80s and early 90s. Jerry's voice was clearer and less raspy.
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All, Great Work on the 90's information. Looking forward to seeing a new vine with some of the shows EDAD, maustin and dstache are mentioning. Thanks for letting us "new guys" be part of this community. Best New Years Wishes-Jimmy
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You guys are giving this space some much needed rejuvenation and I thank YOU! Maustin, thanks for the Denver December 90 run.
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Happy New Year 30 minutes away on the east coast 3 and half hours for us on the west coast glad you made it back home Matt going out to a karoke bar tonight with the wife and friends - wonder if they have some GD in their books haha cheers everyone!
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Be safe and have fun tonight... and everyone have a great 2011! Thanks to all on the vineyard for a fantastic new hobby! Peace, Joe
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Here are the recommended shows from the Compendium for 93-95 1993 1/26, 2/22, 2/23, 3/10, 3/11, 3/16, 3/18, 3/20, 3/21, 3/22, 3/29, 4/2, 4/4, 5/16, 5/21, 5/23, 5/27, 6/6, 6/8, 6/9, 6/13, 6/15, 6/16, 6/22, 6/23, 6/25, 6/26, 8/21, 8/22, 9/12, 9/13, 9/14, 9/24, 9/25, 9/29, 9/30, 12/8, 12/9, 12/10, 12/17, 12/18 and 12/19 Especially recommended are 2/23, 6/9 and 9/12. The Mar Atlanta run (3/20-22) and Sept Philly run (9/12-14) look really nice. 1994 3/4, 3/6, 3/20, 3/27, 3/28, 3/30, 3/31, 4/4, 4/7, 6/19, 6/26, 7/2, 7/3, 7/20, 7/21, 7/23, 7/24, 7/27, 7/29, 7/31, 8/1, 9/16, 9/17, 9/24, 10/5, 10/13, 10/15, 10/16, 10/18, 10/19, 11/29, 12/1, 12/15 and 12/16 The Oct MSG run (10/13-19 with 10/14 having already been vined) looks especially good. 1995 3/17, 3/18, 3/19, 3/22, 3/23, 3/29, 3/30, 4/1, 4/2, 4/5, 4/7, 5/21, 5/24, 5/25, 5/26, 6/2, 6/3, 6/4, 6/21, 6/22, 6/25 and 6/28 Especially recommended is 5/26. The March Philly (3/17-19) and May Seattle (5/24-26) runs would be great vines. Thanks everyone!