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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    As I've been saying for decades...
    ...Black Peter is not a social disease...
  • Vguy72
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    So, I went to the doctor today....
    https://i.redd.it/nje3e6x1bid11.jpgJust the diagnosis I expected.
  • sonomajon
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    Black Peter
    If you like a good Black Peter... https://archive.org/details/gd77-10-29.sbd.kempa.280.sbeok.shnf/gd77-10… The outro is ripping blues Garcia
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Speaking of 7-7-89
    Anybody going to MUATM tonight? Still on the fence..I'm only a coupla' miles away from the theatre, but it still is a repeat. Guess there's the unveiling of the new box as an added attraction.
  • Mind-Left-Body
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    Curious Trainwreck
    Is there anyone who has never seen the Dead in the 80s or 90s who loves this show? I think seeing the 80s lineup makes this tape more accessible. Grateful Dead Europe '72 and One From the Vault is a pristine representation of the band, so I think it's an easier listen to than something like Boise. But like one poster said, the people at the show that night had a much different experience. Trainwreck, I disagree with your evaluation to some extent, but I enjoyed the humor you injected. I can tell you love the Dead, but at the same time gave an honest write up. It felt more like a real time play by play. Cover up it's coming. I noticed that you compared it two July 7th 1989. You know that show was a multitrack recording right?
  • mustin321
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    Dicks Pick 6 vs. Dave's Pick 27
    Had to break out DP 6 after being blown away by the new Dave's Pick. These shows are pretty different from each other so its kind of hard to compare, but they're both from 1983 so I'll give it a shot. 10/14/83 feels a lot more mellow to me and the beauty really shines in the mellow songs, coincidentally. Althea is a great example of that. Smoothly and slowly chugs along in a magical hypnotic way. Jerry's voice isn't 100% on 9/2 for sure, but I think its better than 10/14 and even works more for him on Black Peter. Compare it to Tennessee Jed from 10/14 where Jerry is really struggling to hit the high notes. 10/14 has the "great" and rare "Keep Your Day Job" ...which might only be interesting because it wasn't played much and was supposedly dropped from the rotation after public demand, but I still enjoy it a little bit. I'd probably enjoy it a little bit more if Jerry could get all the words right. And also, I don't believe there are any stellar recordings of this song? Its interesting to me that the highlights for both shows (IMO) are the set II openers. For Scarlet>Fire, again Jerry's voice is a tad on the rough side but the playing is phenomenal. The mellow intensity is quite different from the "controlled chaos" of the Slipknot from 9/2 but both display some very fine jamming and display the diversity of the greatest band of all time. Both shows have really good Estimated > Eyes but 9/2 has that incredible Bobby/Brent/Rhythm Devils jam out of Eyes that makes the show that much more unique. Both of these shows have great "Space's" 9/2 with the harmonious & melodic interplay and 10/14 with the very green "spinach" jam that goes just exactly perfect into "The Other One." (Side note: Another show with a really good Drums/Space is 3/16/90 -- which also goes "Drums>Space>TOO>Stella Blue>Sugar Magnolia" -- like 10/14/83 ...maybe this was done a lot? I don't know) Overall, I'd have to say I prefer 9/2/83. I would normally go for a show like 10/14/83 because I usually prefer the mellow spaciness of a Dead show but on 9/2 they brought the fire. They also played the slow ones very nicely; Looks Like Rain & Black Peter. All that mixed with the odd intensity of Slipknot and the very different jam out of eyes and the lovely space, makes for a really spectacular and dynamic show. I don't know...maybe I just like it more because I'm not as familiar with it yet, but I can't get enough. Very grateful for these releases. Keep em' coming!
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    This is just rocket fuel nothing is played slow so it can be played perfect. It's not 72 or 73 so take it for what it is and enjoy the show.
  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    Trainwrecked, that was hilarious. And spot on. I hear both sides of this argument. This show is sub-standard for a Dave's Pick, but I personally have so many shows now that this fills a gap and it hipped me to the Pre-Fall '83 mini tour. I bought a buddy of mine a subscription to Dave's this year. He listened to a lot of Dead back in the day and is getting back into them more and more. I don't know what his reaction to this show will be, but I wont be surprised if he doesn't like it and doesn't want to throw down his $100 next year if he's going to get more of this type of show. If you were introducing someone to the band you would never play them this show. As a fan of all configurations and eras if the band I can personally dig it. But to say though that the playing is really good is baffling to me. Jerry is in really rough shape here. The vocals that aren't missed are not delivered well by Jerry, and most harmony vocals are missed, primarily by Bobby. Phil is here and gone in the mix. The drums are low and muffled and one could be forgiven for thinking the band is backed by a single three armed drummer who's playing from a closet onstage. For whoever said the Black Peter is great, maybe Spacebrother - probably Spacebrother, two better Black Peter's have been released in the last year in this series. Berkeley and Hill Auditorium. Seriously. Its not even close. This one will spin more than the Colorado '80 show, maybe more than a few of the '77 releases, but not in the top 20 Dave's. Thank goodness the West Coast box in on deck.
  • SkullTrip
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    Re: Trainwrecked
    Guess I need to do some loyalty reassessment myself, because there are easily half-a-dozen versions of "Deal" that outrank this one for me. 11/17/73 immediately springs to mind. Or 12/31/76. Or 4/22/78. Or 6/9/77. Or 7/4/89. Though I first started seeing shows in '83, these pre-coma 80's gigs are a rough ride for my ears when I play them back. The boys just sound like a bad cover band of their own band. I'm not saying there aren't some solid moments in the early/mid-80s. There are. Here and there. Sometimes. We all tend to cut the band some slack because we love them, but I have to agree with Trainwrecked. No way they would have gained any traction outside of San Francisco sounding like this. Glad the show is getting some love though. And nice to see SpaceBro happy. Hope he holds onto that glow for awhile.
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    Disc two does it for me. I’ve listened about three times through and despite the couple of vocal flubs and missed queues, the fast paced intensity bordering on chaos (that Slipknot!) is both different to my ears as well as inspiring. Not having more than the previously officially released offerings from ‘83, this is a welcome addition. Admittedly the oscillating consternation from some was expected as we all know that ‘eras’ can cause a rukus now and then. Hope All are well and happy. Sixtus
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I don't care who knows it: I think think Spring 91, Spring 92 and late '93 are awesome periods.
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once in a blue moon i'll put Ween's 12 Country Golden Greats on and laugh...and laugh.. particularly Fluffy the most
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I know next to nothing about Spring 92 (Deer Creek comes to mind...had a tape that played fast of that show) 6/28/92, I believe. 91 and 93 I know a bit of you like what you like. and 91 and 93 have shows that are pleasing to my ears.
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"IN Order to save his love for Grateful Dead...he had to listen to Post Brent" Terrapin Moon in Terrapin Moon: Post Brent Hero in theaters this fall.
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After 32 days in transit my copy has finally arrived. The only thing I don't like about living in Australia is how long it takes for my Dave's Picks to arrive. (And why it goes through Switzerland is beyond me.) So for the last month I've been reading all the comments and was worried this was going to be a horrible release. For many years I've notice Deadheads are some of the pickiest most critical people ever. I've only listened to the first cd but it's exactly what I'd expect from a early 80's recording. It doesn't sound as good as other releases, but that doesn't bother me. From what Dave has said about the 80's shows in the vault and from what was released on Thirty Trips this show is as good as it gets for this time period. I want everything that's released and for me everything has been an upgrade to any copy I might have or have had. Keep em coming! Now why is it when my sister sends me a package from Toledo Ohio it takes a week/two before it arrives, yet my Dave's are now taking 30 plus days? How about for next years oversea's subscriptions their be an option for expedited international shipping? And before everyone points out the hows and whys products are shipped, trust me I'm well versed in the transport/logistic world. Finally for Vguy.... A neutron walks into a bar and asks "How much for a beer?" The bartender says "For you? No charge."
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I gave this a second listen. and the second listen went from "its ok" to "this will be in high rotation" this gives me hope for 83 shows. I listened to 10/30/83 and it just about ruined me for the Dead for awhile. shitty tape. this however has many a gem: the wang dang doodle I disagree I heard better ones in the fall '91 east coast shows. loved the jack straw, They Love Each Other, Brown Eyed Women, New Mingle Wood Blues, Love the Big Railroad Blues w/ the extended jam, Looks Like Rain, Help>Slip>Franklin's, Estimated Prophet, The Eyes Of World even if it had a cut in it I didn't notice cuz it was that good for me, Loved the Space with the jerry and weir interplay, solid Goin' Down, great Black Peter and Baby Blue. the mix it aint perfect. but I can hear everyone at least most through out which is what I look for in decent tape quality.
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You sound as though you know what you are talking about...but I would worry if they changed the shipping arrangements. For the first few years with Dave's Picks, I had to pay a lot of additional costs to the postman on delivery of the goodies. For the last few years, though, there don't seem to be any additional charges. The Pick arrives many weeks after everyone elses-I am in England-but I don't mind if it shaves a few pounds off the cost. You're proposal might still cut costs and be quicker, of course.
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I LOVE me some Ween, and Phish is okay on their best nights but this is not the Jambands board. Dont wan to sound rude but its one thing to keep bringing up off-topics like politics, music listens etc., but the constant posting of easily findable non-GD Youtube videos, setlists of old Phish shows and upcoming info about whatever is your local area for shows is getting cumbersome. Ignore my greying gripes if you want ,I'll just scroll through it all but the increase in the amount of posts the last few months has been tedious. And what? Can't even hear the tape cut in Eyes cause it was that good for you?!? WTF kinda hyperbole is that, I LIKE this show too but come on..... This board is getting more and more zealous about this release everyday. No one's been switching to a low-protein diet, buying matching tracksuits and black Nikes have they? I JUST NOW, realized...that this show...is the key to traveling to Alpha Centauri before the alien overlords come to bring us back home as sex slaves, ewwww.
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...to the Era of Irritation: "is getting cumbersome" "has been tedious" Such low emotional thresholds these days. Szell in the PObox. Red, Starless & Sailor's boxes arrived this weekend; unopened on the dining room table. Vail is lovely in Summer, but this (business) trip got to end. Notable nature encounters: two days, two trail runs, two uncomfortably large diamondbacks that brooked no reservation at expressing their dispeasure with my proximity. Not the stuff for weak sphincters or bladders, which reminds me of a thought I'd had on #27 that will have to wait as the call for 0800 conference was just issued!
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I'll shut up from here on out.
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no, it's not my personal board. but let the thing flow and keep it open, I say. I scroll past the things I am not interested in. I do notice the splice in Eyes. pretty jarring. I recall (tell us more, grampa) tapes that had horrific cuts in them. i just shrugged and kept listening. the occasional tear did happen though. "The sun will shine in my ba-"\/\/BLURGLESHUF\/\/"-northbound train" 4/7/71 has a nasty, as does 2/18/71
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@ direwulf - not so much an old guy gripe, more an aversion to trolls I suspect. Attempts to transfer the entire contents of YouTube onto this site, along with all sorts of other unrelated detritus starts to look more like the actions of a troll, or to be more precise 2 trolls. I guess it is just something we will have to learn to live with and ignore. Subtle hints have had no effect so far. Possibly they cannot read or write as they only ever seen to copy/paste. Naturally everyone is free to post what they want here, but some things just become irritating after a while.
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Guilty as charged.. Is 24 hours of harsh self-flogging penalty enough? So long as I don't have to switch to decaf.. all should be ok.
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I also like the variety of topics, but if everybody here starts posting YouTube clips of their favorite bands, this board will become a hot mess!
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9.2.83 ~ Boise 7.12.89 ~ Washington DC Smoking Hot !! Dave's Picks Disc 2 is primo stuff , desert island dead for fans of this lineup. Help on the Way Slipknot Franklin's Tower Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World great finish to Franklin's Tower with very smooth turn into Estimated Prophet question about the Jerry vocals on Help On the Way ? was there any microphone equipment issues or issues with the tape , or was it just straight flubbsville ? Dave L. send out a primo "Brokedown Palace" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQkdaHm2FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXi5QhTIHc
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I have no interest in going, but how come nobody here is discussing the recently announced D&C Mexico shows?
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if lack of money was not a factor i would go. In 2018 i saw 10 shows Dead and Co played, payed a total of $40 dollars to get in. One miracle was part of the 10. last summer 2017 i saw at least 7 Dead and Co shows, paid approximately $150 to get in to them all, no miracles. for the asking price to Mexico a couple thousand $$, some could stay 3 months in a foreign country and hit multiple locations compared to less than a week in a similar location i would bet the band throws a bone to the folks that cannot travel international and plays a few shows in Florida again after Mexico dates, late Jan or early Feb 2019
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We have never had to pay extra down under but that may have changed. It used to be anything under $1000 was GST free but as of July 1st this year, GST is required for everything regardless of price. The only stipulation is the company selling must do at least $75000 worth of business in Oz annually, otherwise GST is not required. As a result we can no longer order from amazon with an Aussie address, we must use Amazon Australia, and most eBay transactions that are outside of Oz now have an extra "import charge" estimate based on price. I'd have items delivered to my relatives in the U.S. and then shipped to me, but the price of international shipping is cost prohibitive, and the Aussie dollar is expected to drop against the greenback so it will become even less affordable soon. I'd hate to pay for shipping twice, and with subscription I'd have free shipping to a U.S. address, but then would have 4 shipping charges to Oz. (That would be nearly another subscription for shipping charges.) At any rate I've learned to be patient waiting on my Dead items. My next bout will be when the Pacific box ships. And that was ordered prior to July so am curious if it will be flagged for GST upon entry to the country.
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Import duty, GST, VAT, BTW, whatever, these various taxes on imported products are levied in most countries. What varies is the threshold above which the tax is applied. Daverock stated that recently he hasn't had to pay any such tax. Neither have I, but the reason has nothing to do with customs or tax officials. It has to do with the fact that since Warner have taken over the sales and shipping operation, they have stated a value of $1 on the customs declaration that is obligatory on international shipments. This may seem just fine - nobody has to pay import duties and taxes on Dave's Picks (most overseas customers didn't anyway due to the comparativeley low value of the series, i.e. less than $30). The problem arises with box sets and other large and high-value product. When my copy of Get Shown The Light arrived at customs with a value of $1 stated on the customs declaration, they quite correctly smelled a rat and would not release it until I had sent proof of the cost of the item. They then sent me a tax bill which had to be paid before the order could be delivered. I eventually received my order weeks after it had reached customs. I hope this situation does not repeat itself with the Pacific Northwest box, but I have made copies of the relevant documents (order, PayPal statement etc.) so I am ready if the same does occur. One can fool some of the customs officers some of the time but you cannot fool all of them all of the time. Or something like that.
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Ok, you made your point.. but the rest of us have to suffer through this GIF too. Come on man.. give is a little break??? Please??? Edit it out.. pretty please??. As for Doodies, if I watch that bob saget GIF one more time, I am liable to doodie my pants. Sorry to see you guys have to pay customs tax just to get some great music.. but I would be right there with you if I had to. GD music is like gas to me.. I hate to pay for it, but when I really need to get somewhere.. I regretfully fill up the tank and when winter hits.. I fill up the tank before the first big snow.
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"ERR"tried again "ERR" tried 10/21/83 "ERR" tried again "ERR" Cartman sez "GAHDAHMITT!!" tried Dave's Picks 3 (10/22 and 21/71) works like a charm
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lol appropriate typo in this context irritable bowel, you mean? the pink in the GIF should be enough Pepto Bismol to help you out
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Kyle HarmonTerrapin Moon Shirdeep Same person, 3 different user names. At this point, you aren’t going to convert anybody to Phish. Try for a younger crowd.
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....I was converted in 1994. I don't need daily reminders either. But it doesn't really bother me. I just scroll on by, like a steam locomotive, rolling down the track....Choo Choo
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dead heads that hate phish are starting to go the way of the dinosaur. I won't be having to hear about it for too much longer.
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You'll be hearing it for a long fucking time, son. To even begin to insinuate - if I read you correctly - that Dead fans who aren't into Fish are going the way of the dinosaur any time soon is ridiculously short-sighted. I went to a few shows. Red Rocks. McNichols. They tended to cover the Stones' "Loving Cup" at most of the shows I saw. Trey did wail his ass off. They're very talented. They stepped into the void created by Garcia's death, and gave to many a new meaning in their life. I wasn't one of those. Fare Thee Well was a beautiful moment, but it lacked spark, particularly in the lead guitar department. This has all been rehashed a thousand times. To me, "You Enjoy Myself" and "David Bowie" off the first record are the best things they ever did. They're ok. There is a lot of cultural crossover, particularly with the younger crowd between the bands, but to even consider that their legacy is remotely on the level of the Grateful Dead is ludicrous. Like what you like, but don't get so far out of line that I have to slap you, son.
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Bye Bye content deficient, empty, hate filled, trolling posts?
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and other adolescent humor....Dude, too funny, reminds me of the old standbys in these parts...so without further ado, for Vguy! 1) what do you call a snowboarder who just broke up with his girlfriend? ........HOMELESS! 2) How does a snowboarder introduce himself? ....Sorry Dude! 3) How many ski instructors does it take to screw in a lightbulb? ....3, one to screw in the light, and two cheer “nice turns!” Oh, and before you cupcakes get yer panties all in a bind, I skied for over 30 years, then switched to the other side for like 15, so I can shit talk like Jim Lehey about all that! ; ) Not knowledgeable enough about Phish to have a objective opinion except to say, say what you want about musicianship etc, but the one thing they can’t even begin to come close to is Mr Robert fuggin Hunter bitches! No, STFU, don’t even go there cause there is no there! Great jams, good playing, supposedly good scene, no Hunter! No disrespect, hell try and think of the GOGD without Hunter? No can do mi amigos, so put that shizzle in Jim’s irritable bowl and smoke it!
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