Dave's Picks Volume 27: Boise State University Pavilion, Boise ID 9/02/83

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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August 5, 2018 - 7:51pm

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August 5, 2018 - 6:39pm

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Vguy72

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Look at all that spreadsheet goodness....

....where does one start? Close your eyes and just pick.
August 5, 2018 - 5:59pm

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Terrapin Moon

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wait a minute....this doesn't

wait a minute....this doesn't sound as good as Europe '72
August 5, 2018 - 5:33pm

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alvarhanso

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Releases by year

Here's a website I've been using to try to make a spreadsheet of all the full show releases, been at it off and on for a few hours, amd up to 1979, with 154 shows put out between 1966 and 1978, it's quite a lot. The site is missing some of the most recent releases, and I'm leaving out most of the random few song releases. I'll figure a way to post it when it's done, but the numbers below are off quite a bit. Europe '72 by itself is 22 shows, by my count it's 33.5 1972 releases counting 11/18/72, and I count 25 1977 releases (counting 11/2, which has almost all been released, but not counting the October '77 Road Trips, which is a smattering of songs across several shows), and 20 1990 releases (counting 3/24 which has almost all been released over various compilations). http://www.deaddisc.com/GDFD_Dead_By_Date.htm Eta: just saw icecreamkd's post came through as I was typing.
August 5, 2018 - 5:24pm

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icecrmcnkd

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My list below

Is missing DaP26
August 5, 2018 - 5:11pm

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shirdeep

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August 5, 2018 - 5:10pm

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icecrmcnkd

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Official Releases

Not included are compilation Road Trips and the bonus discs that went with them. A few other bonus discs may be missing.Rockin' the Rhein, Hundred Year Hall, and Steppin' Out are not included. Most years/eras are well represented except those where high quality recordings are lacking: 65-68, mid-80's. The 90's are not that well represented. There are gems to be found there, and they probably sound pretty good. But, as I posted below, those will probably be held until later as a tool to keep revenue coming in. (formatting got altered slightly when I pasted in the text) GD 1965-66 Birth of the Dead GD 1966 Rare Cuts Oddities GD 1966-07-03 30Trips GD 1966-07-29 Grateful Dead-50th bonus disc GD 1966-07-30% 7-29-66 bonus disc filler GD 1967 Grateful Dead GD 1967-10-22 AOTS-50th bonus disc GD 1967-11-10 30Trips GD 1968 Anthem of the Sun GD 1968 AOTS-50th GD 1968 AOTS-50th-remix GD 1968-01 RTv2n2-filler GD 1968-02-14 RTv2n2 GD 1968-02-23 DP22 GD 1968-02-24 DP22 GD 1968-03-17 DS6 GD 1968-08-24 2FTV GD 1968-10-20 30Trips GD 1969 Aoxomoxoa GD 1969-01-23% DS12-filler GD 1969-02-11 GDCD4054 GD 1969-02-22 30Trips GD 1969-02-27 FW69 Box GD 1969-02-28 FW69 Box GD 1969-03-01 FW69 Box GD 1969-03-02 FW69 Box GD 1969-04-17 DS12 GD 1969-04-26 DP26 GD 1969-04-27 DP26 GD 1969-05-23 RTv4n1 GD 1969-05-24 RTv4n1 GD 1969-11-08 DP16 GD 1969-12-11 DaP2014 bonus disc GD 1969-12-12 DaP10 GD 1969-12-20 DaP6 GD 1969-12-21 DaP2013 bonus disc GD 1970 American Beauty GD 1970 Workingman's Dead GD 1970-01-18 DS2 GD 1970-01-23% DaP19 GD 1970-01-24% DaP19 GD 1970-02-02 DaP6 GD 1970-02-04 DS8-FDATGH GD 1970-02-05 filler-Dancing in the Streets GD 1970-02-13 DP4 GD 1970-02-14 DP4 GD 1970-04-15 30Trips GD 1970-04-18 FDATGH GD 1970-05-02 DP8 GD 1970-05-15a RTv3n3 GD 1970-05-15b RTv3n3 GD 1970-12-31% filler, NYE’s bonus disc GD 1971-02-19 3FTV GD 1971-03-18 30Trips GD 1971-04-25% L&G GD GD 1971-04-27% L&G GD GD 1971-04-28% L&G GD GD 1971-04-29% L&G GD GD 1971-07-31 RTv1n3 GD 1971-08-06% DP35 GD 1971-08-07 DP35 GD 1971-08-23 RTv1n3 GD 1971-08-24 DP35 GD 1971-10-21 DaP3 GD 1971-10-22 DaP3 GD 1971-10-26 DS3 GD 1971-10-31% DP2 GD 1971-11-14% RTv3n2 bonus disc GD 1971-11-15 RTv3n2 GD 1971-12-06% DaP22 filler,DaP2017 bonus disc GD 1971-12-07 DaP22 GD 1971-12-31% NYE's bonus disc GD 1972-03-21% DaP2015 bonus disc GD 1972-03-25% DP30 GD 1972-03-26 DaP14 GD 1972-03-27% DaP2015 bonus disc GD 1972-03-28 DP30 GD 1972-04-07 E72 GD 1972-04-08 E72 GD 1972-04-11 E72 GD 1972-04-14 E72 GD 1972-04-16 E72 GD 1972-04-17 E72 GD 1972-04-21 E72 GD 1972-04-24 E72 GD 1972-04-26 E72 GD 1972-04-29 E72 GD 1972-05-03 E72 GD 1972-05-04 E72 GD 1972-05-07 E72 GD 1972-05-10 E72 GD 1972-05-11 E72 GD 1972-05-13 E72 GD 1972-05-16 E72 GD 1972-05-18 E72 GD 1972-05-23 E72 GD 1972-05-24 E72 GD 1972-05-25 E72 GD 1972-05-26 E72 GD 1972-07-21 DS10 GD 1972-07-22% DS10 GD 1972-08-25 DaP24 GD 1972-08-27 SSDD GD 1972-09-03% DP36 filler GD 1972-09-17 DP23 GD 1972-09-21 DP36 GD 1972-09-24 30Trips GD 1972-09-27 DP11 GD 1972-11-15% DaP11 filler GD 1972-11-17 DaP11 GD 1972-11-18% GD 1972-12-31% NYE’s bonus disc GD 1973 Bear's Choice GD 1973 Wake of the Flood GD 1973-02-26 DP28 GD 1973-02-28 DP28 GD 1973-03-28 DaP16 GD 1973-04-02 DaP21 GD 1973-10-19 DP19 GD 1973-11-09 Winterland 73 Box GD 1973-11-10 Winterland 73 Box GD 1973-11-11 Winterland 73 Box GD 1973-11-14 30Trips GD 1973-11-17 DaP5 GD 1973-11-21 RTv4n3 GD 1973-11-30% DP14 GD 1973-12-02 DP14 GD 1973-12-04% Winterland 73 Box bonus disc GD 1973-12-10 DS8 GD 1973-12-19% DP1 GD 1974 From the Mars Hotel GD 1974-02-24 DaP13 GD 1974-03-23% DP24 GD 1974-05-14 DaP9 GD 1974-06-16% RTv2n3 GD 1974-06-18% RTv2n3 GD 1974-06-26 Set2 DP12 GD 1974-06-28 Set2 DP12 GD 1974-07-19 DaP17 GD 1974-07-29% DaP2012 bonus disc GD 1974-07-31 DaP2 GD 1974-08-04% DP31 GD 1974-08-05% DP31 GD 1974-08-06% DP31 GD 1974-09-09% DP7 GD 1974-09-10% DP7 GD 1974-09-18 30Trips GD 1974-10-16% GD Mov sndtrk GD 1974-10-17% GD Mov sndtrk GD 1974-10-18% GD Mov sndtrk GD 1974-10-19% GD Mov sndtrk GD 1974-10-20% GD Mov sndtrk GD 1975 Blues For Allah GD 1975-08-13 1FTV GD 1975-09-28 30Trips GD 1976-06-09 RTv4n5 GD 1976-06-12% RTv4n5-filler GD 1976-06-18 DS4 GD 1976-06-21% DS4-filler GD 1976-06-22% DS4-filler GD 1976-06-28% DS4-filler GD 1976-07-16% DaP18 filler,DaP2016 bonus disc GD 1976-07-17 DaP18 GD 1976-09-24 DaP4 GD 1976-09-25 DP20 GD 1976-09-28 DP20 GD 1976-10-03 30Trips GD 1976-10-09 DP33 GD 1976-10-10 DP33 GD 1976-12-31 Cow Palace GD 1977 Terrapin Station GD 1977-04-25 30Trips GD 1977-04-29% DS1-filler GD 1977-04-30 DS1 GD 1977-05-05 GSTL GD 1977-05-07 GSTL GD 1977-05-08 GSTL GD 1977-05-09 GSTL GD 1977-05-11 May77 Box GD 1977-05-12 May77 Box GD 1977-05-13 May77 Box GD 1977-05-15 May77 Box GD 1977-05-17 May77 Box GD 1977-05-19 DP29 GD 1977-05-21 DP29 GD 1977-05-22% DP3 GD 1977-05-25 DaP1 GD 1977-05-28 To Terrapin GD 1977-06-07 Winterland 77 Box GD 1977-06-08 Winterland 77 Box GD 1977-06-09 Winterland 77 Box GD 1977-09-03 DP15 GD 1977-11-02% DP34,DaP12-filler GD 1977-11-04 DaP12 GD 1977-11-05 DP34 GD 1977-11-06 DaP25 GD 1977-12-29 DP10 GD 1977-12-30% DP10-filler GD 1977-12-31% NYE's bonus disc GD 1978 Shakedown Street GD 1978-01-22 DaP23 GD 1978-02-03% DP18 GD 1978-02-05% DP18 GD 1978-04-22 DaP15 GD 1978-04-24 DaP7 GD 1978-05-10 DP25 GD 1978-05-11 DP25 GD 1978-05-14 30Trips GD 1978-07-01 July 78 Box GD 1978-07-03 July 78 Box GD 1978-07-05 July 78 Box GD 1978-07-07 July 78 Box GD 1978-07-08 July 78 Box GD 1978-09-15,16 Rocking The Cradle GD 1978-10-21% RTv1n4 GD 1978-10-22% RTv1n4 GD 1978-12-31 Closing of Winterland GD 1979-10-27 30Trips GD 1979-11-05 RT-dwnld GD 1979-11-06 RT-dwnld GD 1979-12-26 DP5 GD 1979-12-28 RTv3n1 GD 1979-12-30% RTv3n1 bonus disc GD 1980 Dead Set GD 1980 Go To Heaven GD 1980 Reckoning GD 1980-05-06 RTv3n4 GD 1980-05-07% RTv3n4 GD 1980-05-15% Go To Nassau GD 1980-05-16% Go To Nassau GD 1980-09-02% DP21-filler GD 1980-09-03 DS7 GD 1980-09-04 Set2 DS7 GD 1980-11-28 30Trips GD 1980-11-30 DaP8 GD 1981-05-06 DP13 GD 1981-05-16 30Trips GD 1981-12-09 DaP20 GD 1982-04-05% RTv4n4-filler GD 1982-04-06 RTv4n4 GD 1982-07-31 30Trips GD 1982-08-07 DP32 GD 1983-09-02 DaP27 GD 1983-10-14 DP6 GD 1983-10-21 30Trips GD 1984-10-12 30Trips GD 1985-06-24 30Trips GD 1985-11-01 DP21 GD 1986-05-03 30Trips GD 1987 In The Dark GD 1987-07-24 VFTV4 GD 1987-07-26 VFTV4 GD 1987-09-18 30Trips GD 1987-10-03% VFTV3-filler GD 1988-03-27 DS5 GD 1988-03-31% RTv4n2-filler GD 1988-04-01 RTv4n2 GD 1988-07-03 30Trips GD 1989 Built to Last GD 1989-04-02 DS9 GD 1989-04-03 DS9 GD 1989-07-07 CWI GD 1989-07-12 RFK Box GD 1989-07-13 RFK Box GD 1989-10-08 Warlocks GD 1989-10-09 Warlocks GD 1989-10-16 NOD GD 1989-10-26 30Trips GD 1990-03-14 S90TOO GD 1990-03-15 Terrapin Limited GD 1990-03-16 S90 GD 1990-03-18 S90TOO GD 1990-03-19 S90 GD 1990-03-21 S90TOO GD 1990-03-22 S90 GD 1990-03-24 Dozin Knick GD 1990-03-25 S90TOO GD 1990-03-26 S90 GD 1990-03-28 S90TOO GD 1990-03-29 S90TOO GD 1990-03-30 S90 GD 1990-04-01 S90TOO GD 1990-04-02 S90 GD 1990-04-03 S90TOO GD 1990-06-16 VFTV3 GD 1990-07-08 VFTV1 GD 1990-09-16 DP9 GD 1990-10-27 30Trips GD 1991-06-14 VFTV2 GD 1991-06-19% DS11-filler GD 1991-06-20 DS11 GD 1991-09-10 30Trips GD 1991-09-25 DP17 GD 1992-03-20 30Trips GD 1992-12-16 DP27 GD 1992-12-17% DP27-filler GD 1993-03-27 30Trips GD 1994-10-01 30Trips GD 1995-02-21 30Trips
August 5, 2018 - 5:04pm

#828

LedDed

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shirdeep

I thank you on behalf of my deadfriends every where. You are the finest. \m/
August 5, 2018 - 4:15pm

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mbarilla

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"You better Roll Away the Dew"

"If you get confused just listen to the music play" ~ 9.2.83 ~ "While the firelight's aglow ~ Strange shadows from the flames will grow ~ 'till things we've never seen ~ Will seem familiar ~ ~ 12.30.83 ~
August 5, 2018 - 4:07pm

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shirdeep

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

*

I don't care who knows it: I

I don't care who knows it: I think think Spring 91, Spring 92 and late '93 are awesome periods.

once in a blue moon i'll put

once in a blue moon i'll put Ween's 12 Country Golden Greats on and laugh...and laugh.. particularly Fluffy the most

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why'd you do it on the front

why'd you do it on the front porch lmao

i'm no joke so hit the

i'm no joke so hit the fuckin' road and piss up a rope!

shout it from the rooftops and mountain tops, Terrapin Moon

I know next to nothing about Spring 92 (Deer Creek comes to mind...had a tape that played fast of that show) 6/28/92, I believe. 91 and 93 I know a bit of you like what you like. and 91 and 93 have shows that are pleasing to my ears.

"IN Order to save his love

"IN Order to save his love for Grateful Dead...he had to listen to Post Brent" Terrapin Moon in Terrapin Moon: Post Brent Hero in theaters this fall.

Just arrived

After 32 days in transit my copy has finally arrived. The only thing I don't like about living in Australia is how long it takes for my Dave's Picks to arrive. (And why it goes through Switzerland is beyond me.) So for the last month I've been reading all the comments and was worried this was going to be a horrible release. For many years I've notice Deadheads are some of the pickiest most critical people ever. I've only listened to the first cd but it's exactly what I'd expect from a early 80's recording. It doesn't sound as good as other releases, but that doesn't bother me. From what Dave has said about the 80's shows in the vault and from what was released on Thirty Trips this show is as good as it gets for this time period. I want everything that's released and for me everything has been an upgrade to any copy I might have or have had. Keep em coming! Now why is it when my sister sends me a package from Toledo Ohio it takes a week/two before it arrives, yet my Dave's are now taking 30 plus days? How about for next years oversea's subscriptions their be an option for expedited international shipping? And before everyone points out the hows and whys products are shipped, trust me I'm well versed in the transport/logistic world. Finally for Vguy.... A neutron walks into a bar and asks "How much for a beer?" The bartender says "For you? No charge."

a serious take on DP 27

I gave this a second listen. and the second listen went from "its ok" to "this will be in high rotation" this gives me hope for 83 shows. I listened to 10/30/83 and it just about ruined me for the Dead for awhile. shitty tape. this however has many a gem: the wang dang doodle I disagree I heard better ones in the fall '91 east coast shows. loved the jack straw, They Love Each Other, Brown Eyed Women, New Mingle Wood Blues, Love the Big Railroad Blues w/ the extended jam, Looks Like Rain, Help>Slip>Franklin's, Estimated Prophet, The Eyes Of World even if it had a cut in it I didn't notice cuz it was that good for me, Loved the Space with the jerry and weir interplay, solid Goin' Down, great Black Peter and Baby Blue. the mix it aint perfect. but I can hear everyone at least most through out which is what I look for in decent tape quality.

Be careful what you wish for....Chilly

You sound as though you know what you are talking about...but I would worry if they changed the shipping arrangements. For the first few years with Dave's Picks, I had to pay a lot of additional costs to the postman on delivery of the goodies. For the last few years, though, there don't seem to be any additional charges. The Pick arrives many weeks after everyone elses-I am in England-but I don't mind if it shaves a few pounds off the cost. You're proposal might still cut costs and be quicker, of course.

Sorry if this seems like an old guy gripe but...

I LOVE me some Ween, and Phish is okay on their best nights but this is not the Jambands board. Dont wan to sound rude but its one thing to keep bringing up off-topics like politics, music listens etc., but the constant posting of easily findable non-GD Youtube videos, setlists of old Phish shows and upcoming info about whatever is your local area for shows is getting cumbersome. Ignore my greying gripes if you want ,I'll just scroll through it all but the increase in the amount of posts the last few months has been tedious. And what? Can't even hear the tape cut in Eyes cause it was that good for you?!? WTF kinda hyperbole is that, I LIKE this show too but come on..... This board is getting more and more zealous about this release everyday. No one's been switching to a low-protein diet, buying matching tracksuits and black Nikes have they? I JUST NOW, realized...that this show...is the key to traveling to Alpha Centauri before the alien overlords come to bring us back home as sex slaves, ewwww.

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From the Age of Aquarius...

...to the Era of Irritation: "is getting cumbersome" "has been tedious" Such low emotional thresholds these days. Szell in the PObox. Red, Starless & Sailor's boxes arrived this weekend; unopened on the dining room table. Vail is lovely in Summer, but this (business) trip got to end. Notable nature encounters: two days, two trail runs, two uncomfortably large diamondbacks that brooked no reservation at expressing their dispeasure with my proximity. Not the stuff for weak sphincters or bladders, which reminds me of a thought I'd had on #27 that will have to wait as the call for 0800 conference was just issued!

my apologies...

I'll shut up from here on out.

personally, I like the wide variety of topics on this board

no, it's not my personal board. but let the thing flow and keep it open, I say. I scroll past the things I am not interested in. I do notice the splice in Eyes. pretty jarring. I recall (tell us more, grampa) tapes that had horrific cuts in them. i just shrugged and kept listening. the occasional tear did happen though. "The sun will shine in my ba-"\/\/BLURGLESHUF\/\/"-northbound train" 4/7/71 has a nasty, as does 2/18/71

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@ direwulf - not so much an old guy gripe, more an aversion to trolls I suspect. Attempts to transfer the entire contents of YouTube onto this site, along with all sorts of other unrelated detritus starts to look more like the actions of a troll, or to be more precise 2 trolls. I guess it is just something we will have to learn to live with and ignore. Subtle hints have had no effect so far. Possibly they cannot read or write as they only ever seen to copy/paste. Naturally everyone is free to post what they want here, but some things just become irritating after a while.

Re:

Guilty as charged.. Is 24 hours of harsh self-flogging penalty enough? So long as I don't have to switch to decaf.. all should be ok.

Happy 49th, Woodstock!

Peripheral maybe, but, Jerry's distain notwithstanding, the Dead turned in a pretty tasty Dark Star on that rainy, shorted-out Saturday night so long ago. They crushed the stage too. . . Woodstock Complete 2016 (v.5.5): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw0er6aYteccbGdUNjU3ZzNpa1U

Topics variety

I also like the variety of topics, but if everybody here starts posting YouTube clips of their favorite bands, this board will become a hot mess!

Cumbersome & tedious....

....do jokes count?

pick 'em

Stella Blue 10-21-78 or 4-21-78? Looks like Heady Version has weighed in... http://headyversion.com/song/251/grateful-dead/stella-blue/ So Many Roads Disc 3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Many_Roads_(1965%E2%80%931995)#Disc_th… Road Trips 1.4 Disc 1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Trips_Volume_1_Number_4#Disc_one

Estimated -> Eyes

9.2.83 ~ Boise 7.12.89 ~ Washington DC Smoking Hot !! Dave's Picks Disc 2 is primo stuff , desert island dead for fans of this lineup. Help on the Way Slipknot Franklin's Tower Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World great finish to Franklin's Tower with very smooth turn into Estimated Prophet question about the Jerry vocals on Help On the Way ? was there any microphone equipment issues or issues with the tape , or was it just straight flubbsville ? Dave L. send out a primo "Brokedown Palace" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQkdaHm2FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXi5QhTIHc

Mexico

I have no interest in going, but how come nobody here is discussing the recently announced D&C Mexico shows?

because _we_ also have no interest in going?

also, I couldn't afford it, anyway. Rufus K. Snarkturd, at your service. ;)

Mexico , too much pesos

if lack of money was not a factor i would go. In 2018 i saw 10 shows Dead and Co played, payed a total of $40 dollars to get in. One miracle was part of the 10. last summer 2017 i saw at least 7 Dead and Co shows, paid approximately $150 to get in to them all, no miracles. for the asking price to Mexico a couple thousand $$, some could stay 3 months in a foreign country and hit multiple locations compared to less than a week in a similar location i would bet the band throws a bone to the folks that cannot travel international and plays a few shows in Florida again after Mexico dates, late Jan or early Feb 2019

I hear you...daverock

We have never had to pay extra down under but that may have changed. It used to be anything under $1000 was GST free but as of July 1st this year, GST is required for everything regardless of price. The only stipulation is the company selling must do at least $75000 worth of business in Oz annually, otherwise GST is not required. As a result we can no longer order from amazon with an Aussie address, we must use Amazon Australia, and most eBay transactions that are outside of Oz now have an extra "import charge" estimate based on price. I'd have items delivered to my relatives in the U.S. and then shipped to me, but the price of international shipping is cost prohibitive, and the Aussie dollar is expected to drop against the greenback so it will become even less affordable soon. I'd hate to pay for shipping twice, and with subscription I'd have free shipping to a U.S. address, but then would have 4 shipping charges to Oz. (That would be nearly another subscription for shipping charges.) At any rate I've learned to be patient waiting on my Dead items. My next bout will be when the Pacific box ships. And that was ordered prior to July so am curious if it will be flagged for GST upon entry to the country.

heard Dave's 2 today

7/31/74 great show

dire wulf this is for you

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Duties...

Import duty, GST, VAT, BTW, whatever, these various taxes on imported products are levied in most countries. What varies is the threshold above which the tax is applied. Daverock stated that recently he hasn't had to pay any such tax. Neither have I, but the reason has nothing to do with customs or tax officials. It has to do with the fact that since Warner have taken over the sales and shipping operation, they have stated a value of $1 on the customs declaration that is obligatory on international shipments. This may seem just fine - nobody has to pay import duties and taxes on Dave's Picks (most overseas customers didn't anyway due to the comparativeley low value of the series, i.e. less than $30). The problem arises with box sets and other large and high-value product. When my copy of Get Shown The Light arrived at customs with a value of $1 stated on the customs declaration, they quite correctly smelled a rat and would not release it until I had sent proof of the cost of the item. They then sent me a tax bill which had to be paid before the order could be delivered. I eventually received my order weeks after it had reached customs. I hope this situation does not repeat itself with the Pacific Northwest box, but I have made copies of the relevant documents (order, PayPal statement etc.) so I am ready if the same does occur. One can fool some of the customs officers some of the time but you cannot fool all of them all of the time. Or something like that.

Re: Terrapin Moon & Import Doodies

Ok, you made your point.. but the rest of us have to suffer through this GIF too. Come on man.. give is a little break??? Please??? Edit it out.. pretty please??. As for Doodies, if I watch that bob saget GIF one more time, I am liable to doodie my pants. Sorry to see you guys have to pay customs tax just to get some great music.. but I would be right there with you if I had to. GD music is like gas to me.. I hate to pay for it, but when I really need to get somewhere.. I regretfully fill up the tank and when winter hits.. I fill up the tank before the first big snow.

I can't. it makes me laugh

I can't. it makes me laugh and forget about everything lol

You Can. It's giving me irratable bowl.

Hit edit. You can do it. I have complete faith. :D

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put 10/15/83 in usually reliable tune box

"ERR"tried again "ERR" tried 10/21/83 "ERR" tried again "ERR" Cartman sez "GAHDAHMITT!!" tried Dave's Picks 3 (10/22 and 21/71) works like a charm

"irritable bowl"

lol appropriate typo in this context irritable bowel, you mean? the pink in the GIF should be enough Pepto Bismol to help you out

Phish posts

Kyle HarmonTerrapin Moon Shirdeep Same person, 3 different user names. At this point, you aren’t going to convert anybody to Phish. Try for a younger crowd.

Phish conversions....

....I was converted in 1994. I don't need daily reminders either. But it doesn't really bother me. I just scroll on by, like a steam locomotive, rolling down the track....Choo Choo

And Vguy links 2 active threads

Trains...... ...... and Mr. Tull.

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dead heads that hate phish

dead heads that hate phish are starting to go the way of the dinosaur. I won't be having to hear about it for too much longer.

How much time do you have?

You'll be hearing it for a long fucking time, son. To even begin to insinuate - if I read you correctly - that Dead fans who aren't into Fish are going the way of the dinosaur any time soon is ridiculously short-sighted. I went to a few shows. Red Rocks. McNichols. They tended to cover the Stones' "Loving Cup" at most of the shows I saw. Trey did wail his ass off. They're very talented. They stepped into the void created by Garcia's death, and gave to many a new meaning in their life. I wasn't one of those. Fare Thee Well was a beautiful moment, but it lacked spark, particularly in the lead guitar department. This has all been rehashed a thousand times. To me, "You Enjoy Myself" and "David Bowie" off the first record are the best things they ever did. They're ok. There is a lot of cultural crossover, particularly with the younger crowd between the bands, but to even consider that their legacy is remotely on the level of the Grateful Dead is ludicrous. Like what you like, but don't get so far out of line that I have to slap you, son.

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How do you starve a phish

How do you starve a phish head? Hide their parents' credit card underneath a bar of soap. Love that joke. Here is a link to an older article with a different opinion of Phish. https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/659wb6/phish-has-been-a-band-for-… Personally I never really got in to them all that much. They are ok.

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Bye Bye content deficient, empty, hate filled, trolling posts?

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and other adolescent humor....Dude, too funny, reminds me of the old standbys in these parts...so without further ado, for Vguy! 1) what do you call a snowboarder who just broke up with his girlfriend? ........HOMELESS! 2) How does a snowboarder introduce himself? ....Sorry Dude! 3) How many ski instructors does it take to screw in a lightbulb? ....3, one to screw in the light, and two cheer “nice turns!” Oh, and before you cupcakes get yer panties all in a bind, I skied for over 30 years, then switched to the other side for like 15, so I can shit talk like Jim Lehey about all that! ; ) Not knowledgeable enough about Phish to have a objective opinion except to say, say what you want about musicianship etc, but the one thing they can’t even begin to come close to is Mr Robert fuggin Hunter bitches! No, STFU, don’t even go there cause there is no there! Great jams, good playing, supposedly good scene, no Hunter! No disrespect, hell try and think of the GOGD without Hunter? No can do mi amigos, so put that shizzle in Jim’s irritable bowl and smoke it!

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