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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    This late summer '83 tour has long been my time capsule Dead. If I could travel back in time and do any single GD tour this would be it. Boise/Sawtooths to Park West/Wasatch to Red Rocks/Rockies to Santa Fe/Sangres camping and road tripping all along the way would have been a real hoot. I have an older cousin who first turned me on to the Dead with tapes, including Boise '83, and he was living in Park City when this tour blew through the Mtn West. He still talks about this tour with reverence, one of his first after leaving MN behind. There's a vid out there of the first set of the band at Park West, and it looks just like shows I still enjoy at State Bridge or Rancho....but with the goddamn Grateful Dead on stage! Phil in particular is a BEAST with his new Modulus and girlfriend front and center. (He devotes at least a couple pages of his autobio to this particular tour and period....the beginning of his renaissance.) Sooo I'm very psyched to have an official release of this one after diving in to another DLP sub despite misgivings. In fact this is my favorite Dave's release of the last few years hands down. Admittedly I'm biased for the aforementioned reasons, but I think the uniqueness and energy of this show standout despite some sound and era limitations. Frankly the peak 70s Dead releases from Dave over and over and over again have started to bore me despite their obvious musicality. I guess I like my Dead a little less predictable and rougher around the edges in order to really highlight the truly inspired moments. Like the Boise Big RxR Blues! My one suggestion for Lemieux on future early-to-mid 80s releases would be to stick to the matrix format of the Fox '80 release. It definitely serves the music and context better than a straight Healy SBD mix, and I know from my own listening that there is no lack of worthy AUD recordings on the LMA and elsewhere that I'm sure any taper would be willing to share for the greater GD good. Cheers to the Citizens of Boise and their Surrender to the Cause!
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    Every fool who ever did blow and made music thought they were a genius at the time, this proves they were not. Almost done with my first and last listen to make sure the discs (made in Mexico) don't skip. Then this piece is going on the shelf behind my bootleg copy of Brent's solo album. Looking forward to some good stuff come the PNW box, Go Hawks.
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    It's comical that people are arguing that DaP 27 is better than DaP 7. KF, alvahanso, you may prefer DaP 27 and for the sake of making a coherent point, I'll agree with you. But here we are, the three of us in our DaP 27 creek without a paddle (and Space brother with his pom poms cheering us on from land), but all of those people voted for a quarter of the songs on DaP 7. I'd like to say nay, but let's see, we are not talking votes in the 10 or even top 5 lol, it's 1st place, 2nd place, etc. Let's be reasonable gentlemen, we are in the minority. DP36 I don't understand your post. You said the sound isn't the problem, but half of the dissention is being cited for bad sound. And what do you mean when you say DaP 27 is about Brent? Are you saying people aren't truly unsatisfied with the sound but rather with Brent? Please explain. KF, PM me your email, I'll send the pic.
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    As I was deciding where to go in '73, I scanned Dick's Picks 1 and thought, hmmm, I never listen to this one, why did Dick choose this as numero uno? Solid HCS I know. There are a lot of great WRS now, but this was a novelty at the time. Truckin' I don't recall too well, but how much better could it be than '72? Probably none better. Anyway, I thought I would put on DP 14, then reach out to you guys for DP 1 impressions. And then I saw the postings from kyleharmon and Terrapin Moon with Truckin' and WRS. Maybe I should just listen to it. Alvarhanso, I basically said the same thing you did, I think you might be mixing my comments with Ace Freh...I mean Mind Left Body - awesome picture dude! Where was I - oh - DaP 7 has some highlights in my mind, and better than a ton of 1978 shows, but not as good as DaP 15. Love Donna on Scarlet, love the Fire and the let it burn, and can't think of a song more ruined by Bobby's slide than this FOTM performance. Mind Left Body has the bonie for it, but I have to admit, that's a lot of Gold and Silver on Heady. Some people are bigger fans than me for sure. Mind Left Body - I just googled Ace and can't find that pic - can you hook an Ace fan up?
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    Spacebrother and I agree on DaP 7 as weak. The Music Never Stopped is very good, but I don't recall anything else that stands out to me. Yes Jerry says "let it burn, let it burn, let it burn" in Fire, but there's nothing special to me about that Scarlet Fire musically. The novelty of the briefest of Stayin Alive teases does nothing for me either. And I like Werewolves of London as a song, but also a relative novelty. But, just to prevent the world from spinning on its axis, my points of divergence with Space would be that while this would rank below almost every other DaP for me, 27 and 20, and possibly 4 are all right there with it, if not below. The challenge though was for a 70s official release worse than 27, so obviously 20 doesn't meet that criteria; still 4 and 7 are my bottom of the barrel 70s releases. The most glaring issue with DaP 7 for me is Bob's slide "playing". More like the sound of 2 street cats making love while someone steps on their tails. But on DaP 27, 5+ years later, it ain't any better. And you don't have the Healy effects on vocals on DaP 7. Another place Space and I agree: DaP 15 from 2 days before is fantastic. Especially, the Deal and Wharf Rat. Jerry botches his first Wharf solo (or is slightly out of tune), but definitely makes up for it with a second go at it. Also, it's fairly ironic that my agreement is with Space and my disagreement is with KF, so this is like Elaine's trip to Bizarro World to continue the Seinfeld theme.
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    I remember that episode stoltzfus. Man that brings back memories. I think a lot has to do with what I listen to DaP 27 on, at least for me. It sounds much better in the car than on headphones to my ears. I also prefer this early 80s keyboard sound to the late eighties. I would say it's definitely growing on me. At least the parts I've been listening to, disc 2 mostly. I like the raunchy tone on Jerry's guitar, is that the Tiger?
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    Is this Box of Rain that I'm cranking from April 2nd 1973. I'm having a blast prepping for "The Box". It's been 73/74 Fetivus this week. I guess I should have posted this on the other page. Oh well what are we talking about here, Dave's Picks 7. That was my first Dave's Picks. I bought it after reading how good the music never stopped is. It's no joke folks. I don't remember much about the Big River and me and my uncle, but I much prefer those pre hiatus. The Scarlet fire is pretty solid, let it burn let it burn let it burn. It is a ripping Promised Land, even though the opening lyrics get missed or flubbed or something I forget which. Anyway I'm not sure how Dave's Picks 7 ends up in a worst of conversation but, I don't know how accurate that is. Definitely one of the better shows from 1978. I think it might even be in Rolling Stones top 20 shows. That being said, I think I also prefer the show from the 22nd which was Dave's Picks 15 that space mentioned. I think the first set of that show is almost flawless. Although it does have a couple pallets in a row that I'm not fond of. The second set is pretty solid too. I definitely don't have to fit over the equalizers much on this one either. I am in full babble mode how long has this been going on for? Feels like forever, what was in that stuff I smoked. Good luck hippie chick. Yours in coherence, KeithFan2112 P.S. This DaP 21 sounds unreal. I'm talking audio at the moment. If "The Box" sounds this good we going to get high high yes sir.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I don't care who knows it: I think think Spring 91, Spring 92 and late '93 are awesome periods.
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once in a blue moon i'll put Ween's 12 Country Golden Greats on and laugh...and laugh.. particularly Fluffy the most
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I know next to nothing about Spring 92 (Deer Creek comes to mind...had a tape that played fast of that show) 6/28/92, I believe. 91 and 93 I know a bit of you like what you like. and 91 and 93 have shows that are pleasing to my ears.
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"IN Order to save his love for Grateful Dead...he had to listen to Post Brent" Terrapin Moon in Terrapin Moon: Post Brent Hero in theaters this fall.
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After 32 days in transit my copy has finally arrived. The only thing I don't like about living in Australia is how long it takes for my Dave's Picks to arrive. (And why it goes through Switzerland is beyond me.) So for the last month I've been reading all the comments and was worried this was going to be a horrible release. For many years I've notice Deadheads are some of the pickiest most critical people ever. I've only listened to the first cd but it's exactly what I'd expect from a early 80's recording. It doesn't sound as good as other releases, but that doesn't bother me. From what Dave has said about the 80's shows in the vault and from what was released on Thirty Trips this show is as good as it gets for this time period. I want everything that's released and for me everything has been an upgrade to any copy I might have or have had. Keep em coming! Now why is it when my sister sends me a package from Toledo Ohio it takes a week/two before it arrives, yet my Dave's are now taking 30 plus days? How about for next years oversea's subscriptions their be an option for expedited international shipping? And before everyone points out the hows and whys products are shipped, trust me I'm well versed in the transport/logistic world. Finally for Vguy.... A neutron walks into a bar and asks "How much for a beer?" The bartender says "For you? No charge."
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I gave this a second listen. and the second listen went from "its ok" to "this will be in high rotation" this gives me hope for 83 shows. I listened to 10/30/83 and it just about ruined me for the Dead for awhile. shitty tape. this however has many a gem: the wang dang doodle I disagree I heard better ones in the fall '91 east coast shows. loved the jack straw, They Love Each Other, Brown Eyed Women, New Mingle Wood Blues, Love the Big Railroad Blues w/ the extended jam, Looks Like Rain, Help>Slip>Franklin's, Estimated Prophet, The Eyes Of World even if it had a cut in it I didn't notice cuz it was that good for me, Loved the Space with the jerry and weir interplay, solid Goin' Down, great Black Peter and Baby Blue. the mix it aint perfect. but I can hear everyone at least most through out which is what I look for in decent tape quality.
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You sound as though you know what you are talking about...but I would worry if they changed the shipping arrangements. For the first few years with Dave's Picks, I had to pay a lot of additional costs to the postman on delivery of the goodies. For the last few years, though, there don't seem to be any additional charges. The Pick arrives many weeks after everyone elses-I am in England-but I don't mind if it shaves a few pounds off the cost. You're proposal might still cut costs and be quicker, of course.
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I LOVE me some Ween, and Phish is okay on their best nights but this is not the Jambands board. Dont wan to sound rude but its one thing to keep bringing up off-topics like politics, music listens etc., but the constant posting of easily findable non-GD Youtube videos, setlists of old Phish shows and upcoming info about whatever is your local area for shows is getting cumbersome. Ignore my greying gripes if you want ,I'll just scroll through it all but the increase in the amount of posts the last few months has been tedious. And what? Can't even hear the tape cut in Eyes cause it was that good for you?!? WTF kinda hyperbole is that, I LIKE this show too but come on..... This board is getting more and more zealous about this release everyday. No one's been switching to a low-protein diet, buying matching tracksuits and black Nikes have they? I JUST NOW, realized...that this show...is the key to traveling to Alpha Centauri before the alien overlords come to bring us back home as sex slaves, ewwww.
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...to the Era of Irritation: "is getting cumbersome" "has been tedious" Such low emotional thresholds these days. Szell in the PObox. Red, Starless & Sailor's boxes arrived this weekend; unopened on the dining room table. Vail is lovely in Summer, but this (business) trip got to end. Notable nature encounters: two days, two trail runs, two uncomfortably large diamondbacks that brooked no reservation at expressing their dispeasure with my proximity. Not the stuff for weak sphincters or bladders, which reminds me of a thought I'd had on #27 that will have to wait as the call for 0800 conference was just issued!
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I'll shut up from here on out.
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no, it's not my personal board. but let the thing flow and keep it open, I say. I scroll past the things I am not interested in. I do notice the splice in Eyes. pretty jarring. I recall (tell us more, grampa) tapes that had horrific cuts in them. i just shrugged and kept listening. the occasional tear did happen though. "The sun will shine in my ba-"\/\/BLURGLESHUF\/\/"-northbound train" 4/7/71 has a nasty, as does 2/18/71
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@ direwulf - not so much an old guy gripe, more an aversion to trolls I suspect. Attempts to transfer the entire contents of YouTube onto this site, along with all sorts of other unrelated detritus starts to look more like the actions of a troll, or to be more precise 2 trolls. I guess it is just something we will have to learn to live with and ignore. Subtle hints have had no effect so far. Possibly they cannot read or write as they only ever seen to copy/paste. Naturally everyone is free to post what they want here, but some things just become irritating after a while.
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Guilty as charged.. Is 24 hours of harsh self-flogging penalty enough? So long as I don't have to switch to decaf.. all should be ok.
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I also like the variety of topics, but if everybody here starts posting YouTube clips of their favorite bands, this board will become a hot mess!
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9.2.83 ~ Boise 7.12.89 ~ Washington DC Smoking Hot !! Dave's Picks Disc 2 is primo stuff , desert island dead for fans of this lineup. Help on the Way Slipknot Franklin's Tower Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World great finish to Franklin's Tower with very smooth turn into Estimated Prophet question about the Jerry vocals on Help On the Way ? was there any microphone equipment issues or issues with the tape , or was it just straight flubbsville ? Dave L. send out a primo "Brokedown Palace" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQkdaHm2FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXi5QhTIHc
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I have no interest in going, but how come nobody here is discussing the recently announced D&C Mexico shows?
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if lack of money was not a factor i would go. In 2018 i saw 10 shows Dead and Co played, payed a total of $40 dollars to get in. One miracle was part of the 10. last summer 2017 i saw at least 7 Dead and Co shows, paid approximately $150 to get in to them all, no miracles. for the asking price to Mexico a couple thousand $$, some could stay 3 months in a foreign country and hit multiple locations compared to less than a week in a similar location i would bet the band throws a bone to the folks that cannot travel international and plays a few shows in Florida again after Mexico dates, late Jan or early Feb 2019
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We have never had to pay extra down under but that may have changed. It used to be anything under $1000 was GST free but as of July 1st this year, GST is required for everything regardless of price. The only stipulation is the company selling must do at least $75000 worth of business in Oz annually, otherwise GST is not required. As a result we can no longer order from amazon with an Aussie address, we must use Amazon Australia, and most eBay transactions that are outside of Oz now have an extra "import charge" estimate based on price. I'd have items delivered to my relatives in the U.S. and then shipped to me, but the price of international shipping is cost prohibitive, and the Aussie dollar is expected to drop against the greenback so it will become even less affordable soon. I'd hate to pay for shipping twice, and with subscription I'd have free shipping to a U.S. address, but then would have 4 shipping charges to Oz. (That would be nearly another subscription for shipping charges.) At any rate I've learned to be patient waiting on my Dead items. My next bout will be when the Pacific box ships. And that was ordered prior to July so am curious if it will be flagged for GST upon entry to the country.
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Import duty, GST, VAT, BTW, whatever, these various taxes on imported products are levied in most countries. What varies is the threshold above which the tax is applied. Daverock stated that recently he hasn't had to pay any such tax. Neither have I, but the reason has nothing to do with customs or tax officials. It has to do with the fact that since Warner have taken over the sales and shipping operation, they have stated a value of $1 on the customs declaration that is obligatory on international shipments. This may seem just fine - nobody has to pay import duties and taxes on Dave's Picks (most overseas customers didn't anyway due to the comparativeley low value of the series, i.e. less than $30). The problem arises with box sets and other large and high-value product. When my copy of Get Shown The Light arrived at customs with a value of $1 stated on the customs declaration, they quite correctly smelled a rat and would not release it until I had sent proof of the cost of the item. They then sent me a tax bill which had to be paid before the order could be delivered. I eventually received my order weeks after it had reached customs. I hope this situation does not repeat itself with the Pacific Northwest box, but I have made copies of the relevant documents (order, PayPal statement etc.) so I am ready if the same does occur. One can fool some of the customs officers some of the time but you cannot fool all of them all of the time. Or something like that.
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Ok, you made your point.. but the rest of us have to suffer through this GIF too. Come on man.. give is a little break??? Please??? Edit it out.. pretty please??. As for Doodies, if I watch that bob saget GIF one more time, I am liable to doodie my pants. Sorry to see you guys have to pay customs tax just to get some great music.. but I would be right there with you if I had to. GD music is like gas to me.. I hate to pay for it, but when I really need to get somewhere.. I regretfully fill up the tank and when winter hits.. I fill up the tank before the first big snow.
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"ERR"tried again "ERR" tried 10/21/83 "ERR" tried again "ERR" Cartman sez "GAHDAHMITT!!" tried Dave's Picks 3 (10/22 and 21/71) works like a charm
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lol appropriate typo in this context irritable bowel, you mean? the pink in the GIF should be enough Pepto Bismol to help you out
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Kyle HarmonTerrapin Moon Shirdeep Same person, 3 different user names. At this point, you aren’t going to convert anybody to Phish. Try for a younger crowd.
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....I was converted in 1994. I don't need daily reminders either. But it doesn't really bother me. I just scroll on by, like a steam locomotive, rolling down the track....Choo Choo
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dead heads that hate phish are starting to go the way of the dinosaur. I won't be having to hear about it for too much longer.
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You'll be hearing it for a long fucking time, son. To even begin to insinuate - if I read you correctly - that Dead fans who aren't into Fish are going the way of the dinosaur any time soon is ridiculously short-sighted. I went to a few shows. Red Rocks. McNichols. They tended to cover the Stones' "Loving Cup" at most of the shows I saw. Trey did wail his ass off. They're very talented. They stepped into the void created by Garcia's death, and gave to many a new meaning in their life. I wasn't one of those. Fare Thee Well was a beautiful moment, but it lacked spark, particularly in the lead guitar department. This has all been rehashed a thousand times. To me, "You Enjoy Myself" and "David Bowie" off the first record are the best things they ever did. They're ok. There is a lot of cultural crossover, particularly with the younger crowd between the bands, but to even consider that their legacy is remotely on the level of the Grateful Dead is ludicrous. Like what you like, but don't get so far out of line that I have to slap you, son.
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Bye Bye content deficient, empty, hate filled, trolling posts?
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and other adolescent humor....Dude, too funny, reminds me of the old standbys in these parts...so without further ado, for Vguy! 1) what do you call a snowboarder who just broke up with his girlfriend? ........HOMELESS! 2) How does a snowboarder introduce himself? ....Sorry Dude! 3) How many ski instructors does it take to screw in a lightbulb? ....3, one to screw in the light, and two cheer “nice turns!” Oh, and before you cupcakes get yer panties all in a bind, I skied for over 30 years, then switched to the other side for like 15, so I can shit talk like Jim Lehey about all that! ; ) Not knowledgeable enough about Phish to have a objective opinion except to say, say what you want about musicianship etc, but the one thing they can’t even begin to come close to is Mr Robert fuggin Hunter bitches! No, STFU, don’t even go there cause there is no there! Great jams, good playing, supposedly good scene, no Hunter! No disrespect, hell try and think of the GOGD without Hunter? No can do mi amigos, so put that shizzle in Jim’s irritable bowl and smoke it!
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