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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Vguy72
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    To those who think Boise is "unworthy"....
    I present this.....https://imgur.com/5JrDrkC
  • Vguy72
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    Poster/Print collecting....
    ....I still have like 4 or 5 to frame. People will pay big $$$ for some. I have a Phish poster from the '98 Vegas Halloween show that was going for over $800 the last time I saw one for sale around four years ago. The Dead & Co Vegas show print from last year is going for around $250. Crazy. Widespread Panic had some awesome ones from Vegas a couple of years ago. I totally forget to stop at the merch station then. Got a little too high in the parking lot prior. This is your brain on drugs.....edit. Depending on where you live, it's hatch chili season. Yummmm.
  • Dennis
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    That was the only thing that cross my mind. Poster collecting can be a neat thing, but lord knows I don't need more shit. Will have to look for some pictures of these combined images.
  • Kayak Guy
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    a tale of the times.
    if you were lucky enough to see the Grateful Dead and didn't have a bad trip while there, chances are you had an entertaining to life changing event. this became formulaic in the late 70s when Drum>Space got locked into a feature of the 2nd set. as tours went on songs became 1st or 2nd set tunes and eventually became limited to slots within their respective sets, with very little deviance until the end. to see the song you wanted meant going to many shows in a row to get it, Morning Dew had a 10 show rotation, Way to Go Home had a 2 show rotation, Bobby tunes had a 4 to 5 day rotation.this made the shows almost ritualistic for those that got it and to some people dancing at a Dead show was the ultimate experience in life. the shows became events and the best party in town where ever they were and worth traveling for. it might take over a thousand miles of touring to get that Dew you wanted. by the time Keith was all used up, Bobby had a keyboardist from his solo band he thought might be a good fit, Jerry saw some Bobby shows, Keith & Donna retired and the rehearsals with Brent started in spring 1979. the fact that Clive Davis the head of Arista records also was lobbying for Brent as a good fit might have helped also. by summer 1979 they were locked into the format, had new tunes, and a keyboard/vocalist that wasn't just part of the rhythm section, but an organist that had an electronic keyboard sound that was going to be big in the 1980s. the band had reinvented itself and was ready to get that hit album that Clive knew was in them. Go To Heaven was not that album. yes Clive Davis was a deadhead before he was their boss and gave them the room they needed. Betty and Brent became involved together and when that went south around the time of Brent's failed solo album, Betty became an Ex and the era of Betty boards was over. from here on it was Healy's PA SBDs that became the reference copies and had the PA mix with Drums, Keyboards and Vocals out front, not to mention Healy's additional effects, and the amplified instruments lower in the mix so they wouldn't feed back. after the return of the acoustic sets and the Dead Set & Reckoning came out they started the 5 years it took to get the material for a new album and the new tunes came at a slower rate. instead the band kept up the tour schedule, the bad habits and added cover tunes to keep the new fans they were getting coming back for more. there was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert and word got out. by this time some amazing AUD tapes were being recorded on customized tape decks with shot gun mics on poles to get them above the crowd. these capture how it sounded in the hall and were more realistic than the SBDs from the PA. as the tours went on it was obvious Jerry wasn't doing well, but he was trying, and the tours continued until he physically couldn't anymore. the worse Jerry's voice got, the louder the crowd singing along got, so gaffs and croaks were less noticed as everyone else was singing the right lyrics. his guitar playing though developed a shreddy quality and the Tiger years has such a sweet sound. what it did lead to was the entire hall getting into the same breathing pattern singing along with Jerry, while doing the happy acid dance and knowing at that moment they were in the best place on earth at that time. this experience worked pretty consistently right up to the end, even though we knew by then it was more about the formulaic ritual experience than it was about the quality of the music being played. to say this music is unworthy of release is wrong. the whole idea of Dave's Picks is to take whats left from the vault and put out the whole shows in the best quality possible and people that subscribe should understand this. it's not about having to own every release just so you don't have a gap in your display because you only like a certain period of the bands 30 year history. if you don't like it give it away to someone that wants it that got shut out. sell it for a profit on ebay, burn it like the devil music you think it is, banish it from your life. this is what the future box sets will most likely be filled with, the returned Betty's using the Plangent process, because the only box from the returned tapes not Plangent processed is the July 78 box that still sits in limbo as the last of the Music Today boxes and failed digital rollout. at this point the July 78 box looks like it was rushed and victim to being a test if they had to Plangent the tapes or in house digitization would do, clearly it is required and worth the added expense and time. july 78 is a great box and concept that should have sold out by now. is it as good as the Plangent processed boxes like the 2 from spring 77 or Sunshine Daydream? no, not close, but is it on par with Dave's Picks quality? yes it is and it's like getting a whole years subscription of 1978 Betty's in a deluxe package. if this new box sounds as good as Dave says, "like a whole new tape" because of the Plangent processing, Dave's future picks will have to start on the Brent years to ensure box set potential into the 3rd 10 year licensing deal. maybe Rhino needs to have something like this before you hit the subscription order to remind you that not everything is a Betty and they have been milking that 71-78 reel to reel time period pretty hard for the past 20 years. there's 23 years of cassettes and DATs that fit the mission statement of whole shows that can be remastered from the 2 tracks that might be released as part of the subscription. Caveat Emptor: This compact disc has been digitally remastered directly from the original metal cassette. It is a snapshot of history, not a modern professional recording, and may therefore exhibit some technical anomalies and the unavoidable effects of the ravages of time
  • Oroborous
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    Nice post, agree with most. Couple of comments though......sometimes a bad trip could end up being a entertaining and/or life changing event too....; ) like the first time doing the electric tango at a show, front row on 4/12/83, thought for a while I had died, but it was ok.......cause behind the bright white light at the end of the tunnel (Candace’s new Morpheus vari-lights, coming from behind the band on full on bright white LOL).....the Galdang GD was playing, so it was all good hee-hee. I believe this was during Dupree’s with that crazy organ grinder bounce going on, like some wierd F&L psychedelic carnival vision.... Things started @ 2 Hour peak during Cassidy, with it’s all over now, sorta freaking me out, you know “it’s all over now!” Oops, and of course Loser was a bit frightening under the circumstances, at some point I Sorta had to slump on the rail and ride it out. As I say, I felt I had some wierd death trip, and could not see for a few, then slowly that slinky carnival music caught my attention, and my vision stated to some what normalize, as I came out of it, and had the whole “light at the end of the tunnel” vision, ending up with a with a huge grin and a totally mind blowing affirmation of life during Let it Grow, coming back around full strength with “I Am, I AM, Iiiiiiiii aaaammmmmmmm!!! Pheewww, gives me chills still! Distinctly remeber having “I think I have been here before”, and “meet me some morning in the sweet by and by”” lyrics going through my head and of course “ remember, it’s only a drug” mantra......... Life changing indeed. I now realized it’s ok to die..... Don’t forget in the “tape” evolution when Healy was broadcasting shows over his own FM transmitter for short range distribution around the venue in an attempt to feed fans without taper tickets a way to record as well as a way for folks who were shut out to perhaps dig the show without showing up on site and overwhelming the venue/natives etc (long story, missed the great dance party in one of the hotel parking lots on 3/26/88,the only show I was ever shut out. Heard it was almost as good as getting in?) I’ve had some good tapes that were recorded like this..... I know it’s not the general consensus here, but like you’ve said there is nothing like a really well done AUD recording imho. Personally, I still think a properly done matrix recording is best. I’ve really noticed this from DVD transfers I’ve made. I go coax digital straight to the Masterlink 9600, thereby skipping two steps of conversion. So recording at higher resolution, but then of course down ressing to red book. Yes SBDs are great, but they often do not sound like what the band actually sounded like live in the venue. As you all know, great SBD/Betty board etc can be an awesome recording to listen to, but they do not sound like what the band actually sounded like in the venue.....for good or for ill. It’s physics folks so don’t even try to argue about this.....you can certainly argue that YOU prefer the SBDs, but they don’t sound like it did live!
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    It's 8/12/72 anniversary day. Got a note for you. You know the wicked opening salvo Jerry plays on the 11/17/72 Me & My Uncle? He gets the same effect with Black Peter. This show has any number of hitches in the gitalong, but overall it sets the tone for that show 15 days later.
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    Dennis. The rush to the merch stand was for the concert poster. Some of the runs' posters (which are limited in number e.g. 800) are thus very collectable. The ones done by artist Pollock catch quite a sum and are sought after. The halloween run at AC of 2013 poster set is a sweet (not by him), and combine to make one larger image; which is typical. The phish poster folk all brought a sling so that they could shoulder the poster in its tube through the show. Shmucks like me paid more than twice as much on third market for the set...and a heap more to frame.
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    BUENOS DIAS ROCKEROS!! - Dosed @ the DMV, talk about getting “the fear”..... - The electric fence joke; Vguy, somehow he just keeps getting better and better folks! Look for this guy on Carson! - STOLTZY; 9/21&10/17/82 look interesting, thanks for the tip. We were at 9/24/82, have never heard it, but thought it was a decent show for the time, of course I was still relatively wet behind the ears, and we rented a luxury bus full of like 50 freaks for the then three hour ride, complete with kegs.....Cue the thunder “a three hour tour”.... - 7/4/86; see my post about this on NW box thread.... - 30 Trips; fffffffffffuuuuuuhccccccckkkkkkkk, I missed it again! Sorta like first time, bad timing of fundage, found out too late etc partially because I have picked up 3 DPs, 3 Daps, and 2 RTs, with more coming soon, and mama talking to Santa on my behalf for some others (finally starting to do some catching up) And with the Mighty box looming.......!!!! - DP36; used to use the same MO @ Dead shows; go for best sound, with good views, equals somewhere in the center, usually just behind the “asshole”zone and a bit in from the board. Would go up front all the time when we started out, but as GA went away, and the crowds aaaaa, started to “change” it wasn’t worth it.... - Dave’s 13 and 16; holy guacamole bat man; finally picked these up, felt a little greasy paying so much, but now that their ripped and roaring, and hey, nothing like a cool DS shower to cleanse body and soul! Yeah, checked out 13 last night, fuck I really need to listen to more early 73! As if I wasn’t tweaked enough already for this new Box!! 16 will be spinning today, another big ole meaty DS, yummmm Now if I could find 9’ 6, and 19.....hee-hee, like that Bare Naked Ladies song “never enough” were they the 80s? I guess more like 90s.... - 80s music; gawd I hated that shit back then. But it’s funny how some stuff grows on you, or perhaps you open up more with age? Like I really dig the Cure now, how can you not crank “ it’s friday and I’m in love again” on a Friday afternoon! Ok folks, that is all, uncle Pedro singing off! Peace (thuuudd, ah, that’s the mic dropping....) ; )
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    I don't think 27 is bad, just not one of the great era shows. It's what makes this band interesting to me, I enjoy listening to how they played and sang on an "off" night. It puts all the great ones in perspective. As far as Phish, my phriends tried. I just don't get it. The singing and lyrics I find to just be dopey, cornball shit like something from a comic book. As a serious person I prefer the profound words of Robert Hunter. That's ok. One less person to stand in line ahead of you. As far as Dave, he should put out two more "off" nights in a row from the Dead. It may make it easier to make early online purchases in the future.
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    Why did the first 50 rush to the "merch" stand?
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I would say the author of that article really fails to grasp what an enabler is. what people choose to do when they go to a show is on them. never once heard trey say something like "hey kids! do those fucking drugs! snort it up! shoot it up! waaaay up!" will have to check out a bit of that manson album. but hey you know the author doesn't have to like the band anymore than I have to like The Allman Brothers Band which I don't.
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Simonrob, Daverock,Glad your Daves are getting through without the added cost of import duties etc. Here in Sweden it is now the complete opposite. Each Daves and my recent Anthem attracted duties to the tune of around 8 euros. Rhinos habit of putting a nominal value of 1 dollar on each sending seems to attract attention. The Swedish post office now sends out an invoice while the parcel laguishes in Customs and doesnt release the parcel till payment is made. This process now adds an average delay of an extra two weeks till the sending can be picked up in the next village.
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all that bye bye birdie thing is going to make me think of the parody on family guy when it came out peter was mentally disabled
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Personally I always really liked Barry Meltons guitar, Bruce Barthols bass playing, Chickens non linear drumming and David Cohens guitar and organ playing, but I guess there arnt that many of us fans still around. Time to play Colours for Susan again.
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, er uh, I mean Terrapin,What would happen if three or four of us, or six headed angry Jim, went over to the phish site and posted nothing but GD shit? Just a philosophical question, not being adversarial at all.....seriously, what would happen? Hell im clueless, let’s put it out to the rest of the class, chilrens??? What say all y’all?
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Niiiiiccceeee!
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I have no problem with Phish, and honestly get a lot from people tossing out little nuggets of good music to sample. They are currently touring and from what I hear playing very well. Nothing wrong with some enthusiasm about something you love so long as it doesn't dominate other's inputs. I have a problem with trolling and that Charles Manson complete album YouTube post that was posted just to stir the pot and piss people off. Beyond the pale and extremely tasteless. Trolling just to piss people off and plain hateful. No room for that here.
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posting grateful dead over at phish site? we wouldn't care lol knock yourself out. phish fans are into the Dead in general and if they aren't its because they didn't hear any yet.
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Not So Sweet Martha Lorriane.
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Hi Dogon, good to see you back. Count me as a fan of the Fish, and in particular Barry Melton's guitar playing. As for Fish songs, how about Daevid Allen's "Fred the fish and the chip on his shoulder" from his Bananamoon album. And as for Phish, how could I hate them? I have never heard anything they have done. Not a single note. I suppose I could give them a listen if someone could give me a good reason why I should. Toodle pip!
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Tired of curmudgeonly Dead Heads telling you not to share or speak of phish? then come on down to The Phish Tank Rainbow Phorum page on facebook. where anyone can discuss or share phish. my page is listed as a musician/band and has the rainbow logo
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how about back to the real problem here and the fact Dave's picks is wasting the reels on non plangent processed releases? join me in lobbying for a new series. Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series. this is an appeal to the powers that be for a new subscription series of 3 times a year of Plangent processed returned "Betty Boards" available in limited edition CDs and digital download forever. the series can start with 2/26/77 Winterland, which would be a sin not to have Plangent processed and instead used for a Dave's Pick release. as shown with previous releases from the "Bettys" the Plangent process significantly improves the sound from the tapes. by offering limited CD and unlimited digital versions it allows for maximum return of investment for the additional processing costs.
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But, I've dyed my hair brown and my belly piercing was ripped out by a 5 year old long ago. Its kinda like baseball, oops theres that Dead metaphor again. I like the team I like, the sport of baseball is great and I like hearing about other teams to a degree, but dont post about the damn Yankees on the Red Sox forum, especially constantly. That was supposed to be a joke...not sound grumpy. Used to see a lot shirt in the mid 2000s, it was a fork in the road with 2 signs pointing in opposite directions. One said Phish the other said Grateful Dead. The quote at the bottom read "if you get confused, listen to the music play." Phish is good but the Grateful Deads dynamics, group interplay, and the ebb and flow of songs and styles is to me just far superior. Phish honestly just got boring after awhile, Treys space and timing on his playing is rarely where it jives with me in the moment, especially lysergic moments. And I was very into Phish pre-hiatus and before 2.0. Phish is just too much like an 80s hair metal band guitarist that decided to do jazz in a rock format. Not to mention the lyrics, the Dead had Robert Hunter and Phish have Tom Marshall. Marshall doesn't even scratch the surface of the depths of Hunters lyrics, Hunter pulls all of America and the common human experience into his words and beyond, not just personal experiences of private college graduates told with lyrics in nonsense rhymes which have been declining severely in 3.0. Dead lyrics can touch many lives, Phish lyrics are not so universal. Anyways there are many tours pre 2000s break Phish I can get behind, sometimes. Cow funk era is tolerable. The hardcore Phish fans I know get pretty heated too, so dont pretend like deep end GD talk on a current Phish forum would go over with rainbows and unicorns. Phish shows are the only time I've seen someone having a great time only to have some Phish tour head in full uniform say to them something like Trey sucks tonight you should've been here yesterday. Too much piss in the Phish tank for me anymore, and it's a borderline sausage fest, at least more of the ladies still go to see the dead! I guess as I've aged, the Dead have aged with me like a dusty bottle of electric bourbon, but Phish seems more like the kids toy aisle at Walmart, dont forget to buy a trampoline!
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This thread is getting salty. Even Jim done got pissed off. I was having a sort of relevant convo with Oroborous (check your PMs my man :) about this Phish / Dead "controversy". When I started going to a lot of shows in the late 90s, I would see the Allman Brothers religiously (really Terrapin?), Phish, Widespread Panic, String Cheese Incident, moe., later on Umphrey's McGee, STS9, Tauk. These bands all have their loyal fans. What they all have in common is that practically all of those fan bases also are into the Dead. The Dead were like the common denominator of the jam band circuit. Hell they pretty much invented the jam band circuit. I got more interested in the Dead from talking to all these other fans at other shows. Go to any other jam band concert and count the folks in Dead T shirts. Some of them probably weren't born yet to have actually seen the Dead. When I was younger, I really liked Phish. I loved their zany, goofball irreverance. Now that I'm less younger than I used to be, I think I appreciate a little more reverance. Dead songs, for the most part, are earnest. They say what they mean and mean what they say. Phish songs are often ironic. They aren't intended to mean anything except as a vehicle to jam out. When I'm scrolling through here, its usually with my morning coffee, or during lunch, and I'm never going to stop reading and watch an entire concert video, of anyone. I just want to read what other people think about whatever inane topic we're on at the time. That's all. Oh and I still like, but don't love Dave's 27. It is neither the disgraceful embarrassment that some paint it as, nor the most amazing 2 1/2 hours of music ever put down on tape. That's enough for me to keep subscribing. Peace.
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This thread is getting salty. Even Jim done got pissed off. I was having a sort of relevant convo with Oroborous (check your PMs my man :) about this Phish / Dead "controversy". When I started going to a lot of shows in the late 90s, I would see the Allman Brothers religiously (really Terrapin?), Phish, Widespread Panic, String Cheese Incident, moe., later on Umphrey's McGee, STS9, Tauk. These bands all have their loyal fans. What they all have in common is that practically all of those fan bases also are into the Dead. The Dead were like the common denominator of the jam band circuit. Hell they pretty much invented the jam band circuit. I got more interested in the Dead from talking to all these other fans at other shows. Go to any other jam band concert and count the folks in Dead T shirts. Some of them probably weren't born yet to have actually seen the Dead. When I was younger, I really liked Phish. I loved their zany, goofball irreverance. Now that I'm less younger than I used to be, I think I appreciate a little more reverance. Dead songs, for the most part, are earnest. They say what they mean and mean what they say. Phish songs are often ironic. They aren't intended to mean anything except as a vehicle to jam out. When I'm scrolling through here, its usually with my morning coffee, or during lunch, and I'm never going to stop reading and watch an entire concert video, of anyone. I just want to read what other people think about whatever inane topic we're on at the time. That's all. Oh and I still like, but don't love Dave's 27. It is neither the disgraceful embarrassment that some paint it as, nor the most amazing 2 1/2 hours of music ever put down on tape. That's enough for me to keep subscribing. Peace.
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so you want to talk about D & C in Mexico? What a huge ripoff, I was checking the prices, really? to go to Mexico? Bad drinks, crappy weed, no inspections of public facilities. A woman I worked with back in the 00's was electrocuted in a pool in Mexico, no inspections so the wiring was faulty in the pools lighting, she dove in and ZZZZappppp, found her the following am. oh and good luck with any legal action in Mexico, forgetaboutit. Here's a question for the boys, why the hell do this in Mexico? why not Fla or Calif., or somewhere in the good old USA. To go, don't you have to get a passport? plane fare, cost of the show etc... 5 grand easy, are you fricking serious? Another stinking money grab or is it so Bobby can go on vacation? I would laugh if no one showed up. On another subject, phish, they can't hold a candle to the Dead so don't even bring them up, they just ain't that good, plain and simple. Now Fish, there's a band, I hear Barry M. is an attorney now and does a lot of pro bono work. Always loved the way he played. Speaking of Country Joe and the Fish, today is 49th anniversary of Woodstock opening day, they did an awesome set and you can see some of it in the movie. Good times (those were the days, my friends). Any old timers out there got any Woodstock stories? I have one but it would probably burn off both your ears :)
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The new bear sonic journals with the ABB are golden! Thank you Bear, gotta love someone that demands from thenselves that much intention, attention and presence in whatever they do. Great recordings from the maestro himself.
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they are a vast upgrade to what was out there. maybe it is the Plangent processing of the master reels? if they can sound that much better, imagine what the GD portion of the GD February Fillmore shows could sound like? i'd pay for a box of Fillmore 1970 GD sets to replace the Dicks Picks and Bear's choices compilation sets. nonPlangent processed reels are a remix waiting to happen, lets start here.
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Are there any two track releases besides the Winterland 1973 box set that utilized Plangeant? I've read a lot about their technology, and a lot of comments indicate that there is a very specific type of audio anomaly that it corrects best, which I'm sure everyone here has heard of, flutter and wow. From what I've read Plangent is only really necessary when you can hear the deficiencies on the master tapes. It sounds like it is almost a necessity for multitrack sources, but not so much for two track sources that already sound good to the ear. By good to the ear they indicate the absence of flutter and wow, as well as the ability to listen to it loudly without distortion or changes in pitch. In other words, it sounds like you're almost always going to need it for multitrack sourced shows, because it would not be cost-effective to listen to 16 or Four 24 tracks all the way through in a concert to inspect for audible problems, and even if you did have the time, good pitch on one track might not match the pitch of another track which also sounds good to the year. Then when you mix it you realize you have two instruments that are not playing in the same register. It would be cool to compare a soundboard of a two-track to a two track release that's gone through plangent.
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all of the box sets released since the return of the Betty's uses the Plangent processing.in Dave's own words the new box set sounds like new tapes compared to the unplangented versions. the one exception has been the July 1978 box which still hasn't sold out and people think sound sort of meh. only Dave's Picks put out unplangented reels and that is because they aren't in the budget. the new ABB sonic journal is a good example of how the old GDM set has been improved by a Plangent processing of the same reels used for the GDM release.
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WTF happened to this board? Been gone for a week and I come back to read the recent posts, and it's 15 minutes of my life i'll never get back. Minimal thoughtful commentary re: the music. Instead it's dominated by indignant era-griping, indignant Phish promotions, indignant gripes about shows outside the US, douchey trolling, direct personal swipes, indignant retaliations and politically-tinged rants. 90% waste of time and energy - why am I here??? Tempted to drop off like so many others have recently because it just doesn't seem worth the energy. How about we ALL ignore the noise and emotional jockeying and JUST focus on GD music? :O The spirit of this board is to share intelligent feedback re the DaP series and the Dead's music overall. Let's focus, people. SO - In that light.... (deep cleansing breath...) I'm curious what folks think is Jerry's best album? While i love all of them, I go crazy (good crazy) every time I hear "Compliments" (with Let it Rock, Turn on the Bright Lights, Russian Lullabye, Mississippi Moon, etc.) To me this is Jerry's most personal, intimate album. It's what "Thanks I'll Eat It Here" is to Lowell George, or "Laid Back" to Gregg Allman, or "Storyville" to Robbie Robertson (Storyville is a MUST-OWN!). It just feels like a departure from every other album - like a personal diary, doin' it just for you. Can't get enough. PS: I just realized Doc's post below! Hiya Doc! Yes, it's just getting MUCH worse, isn't it? I may join you shortly. I think, like college, it's natural to move on after 4 years and grow up. Pop in for the occasional alumni day.... There's only so much you can gleen from anything - my cup may be full.
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If I had to pick one I'd be deeply conflicted between the first one and Reflections.
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I hope what's left of the insightful posters hereabouts will hang on and let the current round of inane trolling cycle thru. These vacuous postings will, as always, fizzle out (sooner if we just keep on scrolling past). Sorry to read that some/many of you who regularly share unique perspectives about all things Dead are thinking about leaving. Hope you'll weather the summer doldrums at least until PNW sails over on the adjacent thread (trains and cars can't last forever. . . can they?). Onward!
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Rest in peace Queen of Soul. What a voice.. a national treasure, whether you like the Motown sound or not.
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A toss between the 1st album and Cats Under the Stars
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I'm probably the only one that really cares - but they continue to use Audience patches on the official Dead.net release. Dave's Picks #27 has a brief patch in the middle of Eyes. (I haven't finished listening so their maybe more). My problem is that when you are buying these CD's there is an expectation that you are buying SBD quality. If that's not 100% the case, then fine.. but at lease they should disclose it. They continue to not even acknowledge that it's happening. Come on guys - at least start noting the AUD patches.
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"please, Br'er Dave, don't use an AUD patch!" sorry, just too easy. listening to DaP3 shows the difference in sound from that release to DaP27. to me personally, I got used to AUD patches and sound variations when listening to raw tapes and CDs. not ideal, but I can settle for a few variants on these releases. the patch in Eyes on 27 does wake you up (to find out and all that)
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Had a chance for another few listens to this one. I really dig how high up in the mix Bobby is. You can hear what he's doing clearly at pretty much all times. As a big Bobby fan this is great. While he may not be the juggernaut he was from '72-'74 vamping wise, he picks his spots so well and his tone is so distinctive. Great use of the whammy too. I don't think I've ever uttered or typed that last sentence before. : )
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From WarnerMarket; price went up from $699 to $750...wondering if these have all the original box & contents.
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And a tip of the hat to the good Doctor. Don’t know if you’ve been following at all. Been some nice stretches here since you’ve been gone, but alas it seems more and more the shit winds have been blowing....especially lately...anyway, nice to see you, hope your doing well!Hell, ya know things are getting funky when good hearted Jim starts getting cranky! THIN; hang in there bra, strength in numbers! Place wouldn’t be the same without ya. GARCIA; man I hate “favorites”. That being said, I’d have to go with Compliments. I love the wierd stuff on the 1st album, and Cats has some amazing tunes, but as a whole album, I’d have to go with Compliments. Truly outside the box, diverse, sophisticated, ridiculous tight playing....... Edit: I kinda feel like Reflections doesn’t count, more like a Dead album. And I fine one at that, similar to ACE in that respect.... THE QUEEN; rock on Lady Soul. Mucho R-E-S-P-E-C-To, sock it to me indeed! DAVES; as I may have posted not long ago, have been able to snag some missing Dave’s, Dicks and Road Trips lately. Awesome Dead from 68, 73, 74, 82, 83, 88, with 69, 91 and of course the big dawg (NW box) all arriving soonish..... Haven’t had tons of time to really dig in, but so far have dug it all, especially Dave’s 16 & 13. Can’t believe I missed all that back when.... 16 is really blowing me away....as I’ve said, late 73 is perhaps my personal “favorite”, gawd there’s that word again, but I’ve somehow not been privy to much from the rest of the year. THAT HAS TO CHANGE! Cannot put into words how much I’m itching for this Big Dawg!! CPATROCKS; no more complaining, that seems to be a trend here lately. Nothing but wha, wha, wha, cheese and rice, like I think STOLTZY and Vguy said, what the fuck else can you get for 25 bucks that gives so much reoccurring value, pleasure, and sometimes “unbridled” enthusiasm. This is supposed to be entertainment......also, question for you, hell let’s throw this one out to everyone out there in the cheap seats. Would you rather they not release good shows because they might need a patch? Let’s take 27 off the table. Let’s say some killer Beatty from seventy what ever, would all y’all rather not have something released at all because of patches? STOLTZY; Hamel-Head, sounds like some kind of disease, perhaps obtained due to too much camel-toe. Ouch, sorry, this is what happens when Vguy ain’t around to fill the humor spot of our program ; ) Katec (?); welcome to Vail. Didn’t think we had those kinds of snakes up here, too cold? Hope you get to enjoy our little neighborhood and not stuck with too much trebajo! Perhaps you’ll be around for the 17&18th JG biff day bash shows this weekend. Should be sweet, hear talk of “special guests” Ok, back to work, for fucks sake play nice chilrens! Perhaps if we all make an effort to mostly say nice/positive things, and bite the perverbial tongue and keep the negative to yourself? Just a thought, free society and all, but when several of our long time top members here start saying adios, There is a problem, and no offense meant, but some folks aren’t helping all that...... So light up Jim’s irritable bowl, fire up some Reathra, and lay back and groove on a rainy day my brothers and sisters....
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all that fancy paints as fair she takes her Fan and throws it in the Lion's Den" Garcia #1 Reflections #2 Cats Under the Stars #3 RIP ~ Aretha Franklin https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5wa29x "The storyteller makes no choice soon you will not hear his voice his job is to shed light and not to master" ~ 4.19.82
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- Old and In The Way- Garcia (1st LP) - Reflections / Cats Under the Stars (tie, Mission in the Rain could yield a slight edge though)
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....will be driving my Spotify on my work computer today. All day.
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If you ignore them. They need the attention to flourish and survive. I really do know how to spell. Disappear. See??
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a release which sounds really good. and there is some nice playing, of course. When I listen to these two shows, I feel like they are sooooo close to the X factor, but not quite "there". Having said that, I bet next time it will take me to the moon. a strong release. good setlists, and early versions of several songs make it a keeper. plus, it's live Dead.
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Upon random occasion, I feel a mite peckish for the Melvins. For your consideration and kind interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEGT0qNNKU4 I bid you a splendid afternoon, good sirs (and any ma'ams who can stand this board of questionable repute), Col. Horatio Phelatio Dinklesworth, Esq.
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I know we are not supposed to talk about Phish too much round here, but just was reading that the 3-day Curveball festival was cancelled at Watkins Glen one day prior to day 1, with some Phans already there and many of course en route. I cant imagine how upsetting that would be to the many people for whom this was probably the big planned event of their summer (time wise, vacation wise, money-wise). Really sucks. Imagine heading for 3 days and nights outdoors to see Jerry and the boys, only to have it all cancelled the day before. Sucks for the band too. I am sure they are quite upset, and I am sure they will still be subject to many nasty trolling comments from disappointed Phans - though the band obviously cannot control flooding, water problems or water contamination, or control State health laws and public official decisions, etc. I wish the Phans and the band well during this upsetting setback for them all! 09/20/70 for DaP 28!! I think 11/08/70 is impossible or that would be my first choice.
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A great show.. I was there! Psychedelic as I recall.
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