Dave's Picks Volume 27: Boise State University Pavilion, Boise ID 9/02/83

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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August 5, 2018 - 3:23pm

#831

Mind-Left-Body

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I guess it's just not for me

I keep hearing all the cool kids saying this release sounds great and features the band in top form (with just a few exceptions, such as Black Peter). I'm just not hearing it. I keep putting it back on, thinking maybe I just didn't adjust the equalizer correctly, but it still sounds awful mostly. I hear moments of good playing, but like the one guy said, every time I start grooving to something, some off kilter element yanks me out of it. I understand where you're all coming from. When we really love a version of the band, we listen to it all with passion and I think probably aren't affected by the negative elements. There can't be so many people wrong about how bad they think it is, and conversely, there can't be so many people wrong about how good they think it is. Just always going to be cheers and jeers, that's just the way it is. Get it. That's just the way it is. Love ya'll. Edit - Jason, just saw your data here, going to read it in a few, looks interesting,thanks for taking the time.
August 5, 2018 - 2:48pm

#832

Jason Wilder

Joined:
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Yeah, just comparing Dave's vs. Dicks

There have been a lot of '80's Dead/Brent releases with the Spring '90, Warlocks, '90 TOO, RFK, View From the Vault, etc. In terms of actual releases/shows, the totals (including partials, etc) look like this, and I may be missing some of the partials/splits/multi-year stuff (Garcia Plays Dylan, etc). Generally speaking, there has been a very good job of releasing more from the peak years (IMHO = 70's, '69, '89-'90) while getting something from every year (30 Trips Helped). Did not break down by #shows, includes digital downloads, not included Pacific NW yet. Rank, Year, # Releases, # Discs 1. 1972, 16, 119.25 (peak Dead, justifiably #1, K&D & Pig) A+ 2. 1977, 15, 72.50 (peak late era K&D) A+ 3. 1990, 10.5, 64.50 (peak Brent era) A 4. 1973, 11, 41.0 (PC NW coming) (peak early Keith) A+ 5. 1978, 10, 41.0 (darn good late era K&D) A- 6. 1974, 13, 40 (PC NW coming) (darn good early Keith) A- 7. 1971, 13, 36.12 (darn good year, multiple lineups) A 8. 1969, 9.5, 31.90 (Peak Pig & TC) A+ 9. 1976, 8, 28.0 (improved Donna) A- 10. 1989, 8.5, 27.50 (darn good Brent era) A- ----------------------- 11. 1970, 9.5, 20.83 (the new tunes explode) A ------I would consider this the line for "A" years------ 12. 1980, 8.15, 19.0 B+ 13. 1979, 7, 19.0 B+ ------------------------ 14. 1991, 4, 11.50 15. 1968, 6, 11.30 T16. 1981, 3, 9.0 T16. 1983, 3, 9.0 (This is a C year) T16. 1988, 3, 9.0 19. 1987, 4, 8.5 20. 1982, 3, 8.0 21. 1966, 4.57, 7.50 22. 1985, 3, 7.0 -----mostly C years from here--------- T23. 1992, 2, 6.0 T23. 1993, 2, 6.0 25. 1975, 2.5, 4.5 (B year, just no shows) 26. 1967, 1.5, 3.1 (B year, so few tapes) T27. 1984, 1, 3.0 T27. 1994, 1, 3.0 T27. 1995, 1, 3.0 30. 1986, 1, 2.0 31. 1965, 1, 0 (studio stuff/Birth) (no tapes available). Again, remarkably good distribution overall. Not so much with the Dave's Picks. Agree that 70's is better in a lot of respects (though not as much variance and fewer different songs) and certainly the sound quality is one factor (nothing matches a Betty). However, I have too many sweet sounding 80's boards to buy the idea that there are not many good sounding tapes in the vault to release them. As good as Betty's? No. Still very enjoyable? Yes. For 1967 I buy it, not for 1985 or 1989 or 1980. But I tend to be a show quality over sound quality guy anyway. Lastly, I do have a bit of a beef (small one) with Dave's 80's picks. A summer '89 Box that has no Alpine? Come on. No full 80's acoustic shows (yes, I know Dead Set/Reckoning)? I'll amend my original structure to Dick's Picks parameters. For every series of 6: 1) At least one Pig 2) At least one early Keith ('71-'74) 3) At least one late K&D ('76-'78) 4) At least one Brent/Bruce/Vince 5) At least one Epic/Iconic show (any era) 6) At least one lesser known great show (any era) Converting to Dave's picks parameters, every 3 years (12 releases), that would generate, thru 24 releases: 1) At least 4 Pigs (he does well here) 2) At least 4 early Keith's (he does well here) 3) At least 4 late K&D's (he does well here) 4) At least 4 Brent/Bruce/Vince (not enough but getting better) 5) At least 4 Epic/Iconic shows (he does fine here) 6) At least 4 undiscovered great shows (he does well here) Again, these are small nits to pick. A tad more Brent/later era stuff with a tad better selections from that era. Summer '85. Another fall '89 or '89 pre-midi. '87 when the comeback was in full swing and good vibes were everywhere. '80/'81 acoustic. A piercing Althea. I did not mean to seem too critical, if I came off that way, my apologies. Sorry for length, lazy Sunday.
August 5, 2018 - 2:33pm

#833

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Well, that settles it

Simonrob, Daverock, and the rest of us are catching flights to Vegas...... I love Amsterdam, but I think Vegas flights are cheaper.....and I speak the language......sort of.
August 5, 2018 - 2:27pm

#834

simonrob

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Rain.

The wet stuff is in short supply here in Europe this summer, as I'm sure you have seen on the (real) news. I also suspect that you are more than used to arid conditions there in Vegas.
August 5, 2018 - 2:17pm

#835

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Breaking down Boise....

....simonrob didn't pull the ripcord. Took the Switzerland route. I would very much like to meet you. Down some Belgian ales, spin some Dead, smoke some lettuce and enjoy the English garden rain.
August 5, 2018 - 2:16pm

#836

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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For the record

I think that 5-8-77 sounds awesome. That reverb was on the first cassette I got of the show. Thus, it’s all I know. I also have the matrix and the 5.1 version. I’ll take the Full Norman version.When GSTL was released a few people complained about the reverb, I was just referencing those posts. Overall, I think the release was pretty well received..... My refusal to compare DaP27 to 5-8-77 is because 1983 is not 1977. They can’t be compared, as described extensively in posts below. During past 80’s releases as people complained about the quality other people posted theories along the lines of: There are probably a limited number of releasable non-multitrack 80’s recordings. Eventually all the releasable 60/70’s shows will be released, and then that well will dry up. By that point a lot of the people who saw shows in the 60/70’s might be deceased or in ill health and won’t be making purchases. But, people who saw shows in the 80/90’s will still be making purchases and will keep buying the 80/90’s releases. Thus, the revenue stream continues, as long as some good stuff is held back now and released later. That’s my summary of what I remember people posting in the past. Doesn’t mean that it’s the policy of Dave/Rhino. And, keep in mind that there should be DAT masters of 90’s shows. Hopefully there’s some with good mixes on them. We are due for a Bruce release.....
August 5, 2018 - 2:06pm

#837

simonrob

Joined:
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Got it, heard it...

My copy has finally made it across the pond and I have now listened to it in its entirety, not without some trepidation bearing in mind some of the comments posted here. My personal observations, for what they're worth: Those 80's afficionados who claim this is a great show are exaggerating and those who claim that the mix or the sound quality or the performance itself are appalling are also exaggerating. The performance is mostly fine. I did not notice much that some songs were played at breakneck speed and I did not notice too many momentary disasters along the way. I did notice that Jerry's voice was shot on a couple of songs, notably Black Peter. Also the patch in Eyes brings one down to earth with a jarring thump. As for the sound quality, it is pretty good for a cassette master, certainly better than some of the earlier releases that were recorded on cassette. No real complaints there. The Mix? It was mixed for the PA in the hall, not for my living room so it is not ideal, but it is eminently listenable. The vocals are a bit too prominent but not as much as some on here have suggested. For the rest, the balance of the instruments was not perfect, but not so bad that people were missing entirely. The were a couple of places where the music got really intense and the mix made it sound somewhat confused. Again this was not as bad as many had stated. The overall sound level did vary somewhat but not so much that I had to adjust the level on my pre-amp. I was listening to this on my good quality stereo in my living room (which lacks any form of tone controls or equalization). I just insert the CD and hit play. My only point of reference is "Is what I'm hearing acceptable". One cannot expect true high fidelity from these releases. In this case, I found it perfectly acceptable. There have been better performances and better sounding releases, but there have also been worse. We were spared the Fisher-Price piano sounds from Brent, and his cringe-inducing songs. I am also not a fan of his vocals which also did not intrude here. Before I get called out as a Brent hater, I should say that I found his keyboard sound here just fine and I have always enjoyed his B3 playing (as long as it is not overbearing). This will not be sold instantly orgo on a shelf never to be listened to again. Pretty good for an early - mid '80s performance.
August 5, 2018 - 1:26pm

#838

Vguy72

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June 29, 2007

I'm just grateful.....

....that these releases are coming out regularly. If they weren't, what would we all have to debate about?
August 5, 2018 - 12:41pm

#839

Oroborous

Joined:
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RE: Alvarhanso

Right on my brother, agree with all you said. And of course people can believe what they want for good or for ill. It’s just been frustrating when other folks make these grand statements and comparisons (like 5/8/77 is a 5 outta 10), or when they have no point of reference. e.g., I think Vguy or kid said something like Cornell compared to other Beatty’s “has to much reverb for my taste” To me that’s a great example of a critique based on proper point of reference as well as his personal taste etc But your also right to suggest that apples to oranges can be compared also. A release is a release and therefore fair game....my caveat is that hopefully the critic has at least an idea of what their comparing when speaking of technical matters. Just like a experienced musician would be expected to have a better point of reference when critiquing performance..... But then the bottom line perhaps is Vguy’s example. He just pops it in and likes it or not, well, Vguy perhaps not a good example as that brother seems to dig it all. ; ) Personally, I go both ways (pun intended! for vguys comedic entertainment) I like pretty much every release, but I can certainly critique or find idiosyncrasies in any release, even good ol Cornell! But for me, I’ll take most any official release. Like someone here said, if all your looking for is the warts, well that’s all your going to see..... Finally, like you said, this isn’t aimed at you, hopefully some of us can provide interesting insight for others not as fanatical as us lol Thanks for your great posts! PS; didn’t get on the Dave train until a couple years ago, so I’d gladly take any releases from you, for a reasonable price, were you so inclined to part with any.....please PM me if your interested, looking for ....in order of preference... DAVES PICKS - #9 5/14/74 - #6 12/20/69 with bonus disc - #19 1/23/70 - #5 11/73 - #10 12/11&12/69 with bonus disc - #2 7/31/74 - #17 7/19/74
August 5, 2018 - 11:51am

#840

dilbert

Joined:
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So I listened again to this

So I listened again to this release and 5/8/77, and I stand by opinion that the audio is better on this release; the SBR recording places you front row center, and the volume is just exactly perfect. The aud patches are also cool, because it gives you the impression of being at the show. The 5/8/77 audio is cavernous, It places you last row upper deck, and the audio is low, you have to turn the volume up loud to hear the band.I prefer the sound of this release to the 5/8/77 mix. Performance wise - I prefer the versions of TLEO, Mama Tried, Big River, Brown Eyed Women, New Minglewood Blues and Deal on this release over 5/8/77. This is a fantastic release and I welcome more like this. And as the wise sage Master Shake once said: https://i.imgflip.com/sgkf3.jpg

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

SYF

Unless you are a compulsive completist.. I wouldn't bother. It's ok..

I once thought I had a Chinese friend....

....but it was just my imagine Asian.

* SYF song selection/ track list

...the albums song selections were mostly picked by Phil and the others were picked by Garcia... :)Since the official release, there has been complaints and praises for the LP... I for one dig it, I love this LP ! At the time of production, quadraphonic technology appeared ascendant. In anticipation, the album was mixed for the QS standard – one of several competing vinyl matrix formats. Rather than a dedicated stereo mix, during mastering the quadraphonic mix was folded down to two channels. Lesh explained that he and Bear decided to mix "the whole thing in 'quad' ... Band chronicler Blair Jackson explained why Lesh's method for song choice didn't mesh with Deadhead expectation: "[It] had none of the natural flow of a Grateful Dead concert. It was as if someone had thrown all the songs into a hat and then pulled them out randomly, which is not the way the Grateful Dead operated at all. Their sets, while definitely eclectic, were built piece by piece according to what songs felt right to play at the moment. Garcia's choices would affect Weir's choices and vice versa. Steal Your Face consisted mainly of short songs that were usually played in the lighter first set, and it was devoid of any extended improvisation. Considering the material that was available from that five-night run, the song selection was mystifying to say the least."[13] Garcia saw the album as a specific statement from the same era as the movie, noting "[Phil] picked out what he liked for his own reasons. If anyone wants to have some concept of what Phil likes, that's a good album. ... We don't interfere with each other on that level."[13]

Exactly lovemygirl....

....Steal Your Face has no flow. (I read between the lines). Glad you like it. I tolerate it. It's right up there with What A Long Strange Trip It's Been. With the plethora of realeases over the last 16 years, they both collect quite a bit of dust, even though the music is clean. ....the again, good luck guessing a JRAD setlist. Ghaa!

Steal Your Face (LP) 2017 reissue

This album is my least favorite live Grateful Dead album, however this reissue sounds excellent. The sound is far superior to the original 1976 release, and more than a few steps above the 1989 Compact Disc 1st edition issue. I agree that the Mississippi from 10/19/74 is a good performance, especially the sound on this on reissued LP. Why I don't like Steal Your Face is because of the song sequence, it is not very compelling to me, not even after 42 years. It just doesn't stand up to Live/Dead, Skullfuck & Europe '72. I bought the original LP not long after my 6/22/76 and 6/24/76 shows at the Tower Theater in Upper Darby, near Philadelphia, Pa. Yes, I have all three versions: the original 1976 album, the 1989 CD, and this 2017 remastered LP.

Heaven Help The Fool Boise Space....

....I hear you Bobby. See what repeat listenings can do? Moving this show from a B- to a B as of now.

Reflections....

....a few heads stated they felt Garcia was playing a different song during the Boise Throwing Stones. No he wasn't. He was playing the Boise Throwing Stones. Does that make sense? Makes sense to me. And the GDTRFB leaves no prisoners. Everyone is released! Ghaaa!

Deads Live albums

I'm not so keen on Steal Your Face either, I'm afraid. I was really surprised when I started listening to tapes, years later, just how good those October 1974 shows were-and how mis-represented they had been on Steal Your Face. I have felt this about other official live albums they released in their life time, too. Bears Choice is a bit of a shocker-considering some of the music played at those shows, and while Skull and Roses and Europe 72 are okay (especially the last two sides of the old album of Europe 72) they are again much weaker than the shows they were culled from. Again-especially Europe 72-I have listened to every show from the European tour this year-and every one is stellar. But you would never realise just how good the tour was listening to the old Europe 72 album. It seems as though the band thought the record buying public would prefer to hear their songs, rather than their jams. The one live album that has stood the test of time for me unquestionably, is Live Dead. They got THAT one right.

Live/Dead/Europe '72/Dead Set/Reckoning....

....got them all right. Next year, they're gonna bust out the AoxomoxoA and Live/Dead 50th's. Ohhhh shit. Better buckle up. AoxomoxoA is my favorite studio release btw.

And it's all over now....

....Baby Blue. A treasure. And a tear ran down my face, because it was stolen.

...I also have love for

...I also have love for ‘Bears’s Choice’, This release is also not very welcomed in the Dead’s fan base, but there’s some there that grabs me; you can hear the wooden floor planks and all...

Shirdeep man!

You know how offensive at least one of this community's core members finds Manson.Please be kind. If you need to oppose JimInMD's outburst (and you have been here long enough to know that Jim is NOT one of our easy-to-rile members, but rather a voice of reason in our often stormy environs) WRITE something. Posting another Manson vid seems really dickish to me. I almost wrote something against Jim's response to your first Manson post (freedom, historical significance, outsider culture, yadda yadda). Now I am really glad I didn't.

Manson....

....has no place here. Fuck that asshole. You want the truth? There aren't many people that would have me put on some leather gloves, so my knuckles wouldn't be tarnished as I pounded his smirky face into a bloody pulp. The veil is lifted. Have fun in hell you piece of shit. (someone had to say it). Fact of life. Some people just need to get their ass kicked. (I speak for the trees). Problem?

Bears Choice....

....is head and shoulders above SYF. Who knew there were so many other choices/USDA prime cuts out there back when it was originally released? We are a spoiled lot....Oh yeah. I would pay to see Manson thrown into a wood chipper. Is there a problem?

SYF

I think we'd feel entirely different about SYF if it had a third disc. What would have been the perfect jams?

I wouldnt listen to the Beach

I wouldnt listen to the Beach Boys then cuz Charles Manson known as "The Wizard" befriended a beach boy at the time and co wrote a beach boys song and its now uncredited. that same beach boy slept with a gun under his pillow ever since. read Marilyn Manson's biography his "My Monkey" incorporates elements of that there "mechanical Man" song. played it. I don't even know what to say about it. it's like this big sprawled out rambling mess lol "I sent my monkey off to the country now my monkey's dead" WHAT??? lol and now monkey gone to heaven. shirdeep is communicating and that message is: Monkey

Gun under the pillow....

.... I've done that. Long story. Last five.The Bangles - Different Light Megadeth - Youthinasia GOGD - 4.15.70 Rush - Farewell To Kings The Cars - Panorama and so it goes....

The Bangles Different Light....

....don't laugh. Good vibes in that record. Such good vibes, they were invited to open for the GOGD. That says something. Dust it off and walk like an Egyptian.

Shirdeep I hear your "monkey" message loud and clear

Lay My Lily Down

I don't always listen to new releases right away. I had an idea that Bob's recent, "Blue Mountain," was full of boring acoustic campfire songs with, perhaps, lyrical wonder but no musical spark. That was about half true. A solid album and graced by two brilliantly produced nuggets, "Lay My Lily Down," and "Ghost Towns." I won't post links, youtube it if you want. I am shocked that Bob has, at least on these two tunes and to a perhaps lesser extent on others, adopted the pillow over the microphone dull, decades old ambiance reminiscent of recent T-Bone Burnett productions, Daniel Lanois, Robert Plant, etc. I don't know what to call it, so I'll call it "contemporary music by current artists making classy recordings that sound decades old and give me hope that great music will continue." God Bless everyone. Happy Sunday.

Vguy72 question

Hi Vguy72 - you mentioned in a post about the 50th anniversary reissues. Do you know if the live albums are going to be reissued or is it just the studio? Cheers

Live albums I do like

Two live Dead albums I did like-and still do-are Historic Dead and Vintage Dead. Slightly shady releases, but for live albums from 1966 they sound really good. Unlike the later ones I mentioned, these do seem to accurately reflect the bands sound and style, as subsequently revealed on tapes from the year in question. I don't think they have ever been released on cd, either.

shirdeep

Can you please stop posting all of the YouTube links. They're distracting and not relevant to any Grateful Dead discussion. Thank you.

Steal Your Face

I have this on an LP which is an old radio station promo copy. Its all beat up, and doesn't sound so good anymore. Probably been played 100s of times. I'm tempted to hear a good, new copy. I think the format of the album is well suited for an LP. Its mostly shorter songs, not twenty minute jams. It doesn't "feel" like a live set --- more like an album that happens to be live tracks. Which is okay sometimes. 20-25 minutes of an upbeat, bouncy side while I'm grilling some steaks is perfect. I like the E72 LP for the same reason. Also, curiously, that album isn't on Spotify. Almost everything else that's a general release is. Neither is the GD movie soundtrack, which is what you go to for the live show feel from that run. Maybe they're holding it back for a box set release later :)))))

Ledded and laying lilly

When I saw Bob live in Dallas for this cowboy tour, Lay My Lily Down was one of my fav's that night. When I got the show I played the living shit out of that tune. Just my two cents, but I'm ok with Sheepdip posting youtube vids. I certainly don't check them all out, but they're easy enough to scroll by and once an awhile you get shown some good stuff you didn't know about. Once again, just my two cents. Two more days of work, then off to Lockn, yeah!

Oh no! A non Dead Link

My kid showed me this guy last night, I'll be getting some of this guy in. Leo Moracchioli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA0_vr_Ktl8

Of its time

I am happy for the 80's fans who have waited long for something from this era. I think I would have had a really good time if I had been at the show, this must be great as a souvenir and a slice of history for those lucky enough to have access to Dead shows at that time (they had given up on Europe by then). Listening now in a quiet room on a good hi-fi though, it is all to easy to be distracted by the deterioration of so many things from the 'Golden Era'(as I perceive it). I enjoyed it more than I thought and maybe now and then might give it another spin. No complaints though. I am happy to pay my subs and get to focus 4 times a year on a selected show from the vault, whether I end up listening to it once or 100 times.

Disagree Dennis.

Once I awhile shirdeeps vids are ok, but they're getting to be several times a day of nothing about the Dead. Charles Manson? Had his minions string up a woman 8 months pregnant over a rafter and stab her death as she begged for her baby's life. Fuck him and fuck shirdeep for posting this garbage. Shirdeep used to be cool when he posted rare Dead pics, but he's devolved.

Butch, SYF, new series etc

Butch, right on fuck that spoiled little bitch! Sorry folks that’s what happens when you poison the Golden well with hate! SYF, I will not argue with the critical comments. Would just mention, again, about keeping perspective. The methodology employed for live albums has mostly been to record as much material as possible, using the best equipment possible (budget etc) and then cull the supposed “best” versions of songs, add a little crowd mix and fade in out overlaps to give the “product” the feeling of an actual concert. Hell King Biscuit Flour Hour used to do the same thing I.e., 5/80 (recorded that off the radio on graduation night whilrpe my giant extended family was all out in the back yard, hee-hee, what a freak! But I digress. So yeah, it has no natural flow, and of course anything from then without big jams is just......? But there are some great versions, and if it was redone as well as the Movie Soundtrack, well..... Mainly though I love this album for nostalgia. It brings back so many memories from when I was 14 and just getting on board. Have always loved the pictures; Bill with that giant bong, Phil with the different colored socks, and man nothing filled the imagination of a budding audio geek like those pics of TWOS! Remember youngins’ there was no internet, and the dead was hardly the well known entity they would become, for good or for ill? That album and a few others were like are only gateway to the dead! So looking at those pics, and digging that amazing, now iconic art...and of course what that album jacket as well as Skull fuck got used for, perhaps more than to retrieve the platter, ahem, yeah..... I will always have a spot deep in my heart for this and skullfuck if only because of what they meant to me at that time in my life etc. Today, hands down, imho, Live Dead will always be the benchmark for not only live dead “albums” but perhaps the greatest live album ever! I dug it then, but still a little to green behind the gills to fully “get it” then. That did change with time, like the first time I “saw the electric light shine” and after getting dropped off at home very late, put on the headphones and figured, “I should probably listen to live dead” Amazing, also, seemed like it was only ten minutes long LOL Tried playing my electric with no amp, but thought I was making too much noise and would awaken the rents, who would instantly KNOW! LMAO! Too funny, cause I lived in the basement with a literal McIntosh, JBL wall of sound, used to come home baracho at all hours, worked as a roadie and sound tech, so again, coming and going at all hours, and they never got up. But of course that night I was sure they’d be on to me! I distinctly remeber after like 12 hours or so thinking “ah, this is what they mean by your either on the bus or off” like, this is never going to end LOL. You know, it will be less there, but it’s always going to be there! NOTE; I personally really think Nightfall of Diamonds is right up there in the top echelon; an actual full show, not cut ups, great audio, super set list. I think this one really flies under the radar. NEW SERIES; I’ve been saying this for years. Not specifically like who was it Kayak Guy? with the Betty Special Select concept, but the general idea of more releases, even if you have different tiers or levels of product. The super multi’s, that deserve the extra care and exspense get released say 4 or 5 times a year, with a box or 2 for the top tier, with perhaps a level, or two more below, including a quick and dirty Cassete SB type level ala 27. Those could certainly be pumped out a bit more steadily. If it’s a matter of staff, Hell im qualified and available. Me and Vguy will spit out enough product to make you dizzy! I fully understand and agree with who ever (sorry?? Memory shot) laid out the great marketing plan that is probably in play about releasing older stuff first since it will attract folks from tha era, as well as the rest, before all us geezers croak, while saving the later years for the youngins from that era. Makes sense, no matter what your fav, I think most folks really love to get official releases of shows they were at, in any form. But they are gambling on this remaining as vibrant, and thus as economically viable, as it is now. Why not get as much out now as possible? What if suddenly they lose their audience? I believe after the band folded, that was sort of the goal. I believe I read something from Mickey about trying to make every show somehow available ala cart so folks could just order what ever they pleased. But then Phil put the kibosh on it with “Im not selling the catalog to a Corp/won’t ever let trucking apear on a Chevy commercial” etc.. At the time that kinda made sense, just like finding someone to Front the huge digitizing costs etc to make it available made some sense. But much time has passed since then, and tech and the music industry have radically changed. So yeah, why the hell not have tiered releases, priced and released according. As our lovely English friends might say RIGHT, BRILLIANT!

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Some are really good-the blues and jazz ones from a while back were great. And that one of King Crimson with Adrian Belew on vocals was alright. I don't think shirdeep posted any of these-he has different taste to me-but hey ho. I wasn't so keen on seeing Mansons face peering out at me when I scrolled down, mind you.

I have all four kiss solo

I have all four kiss solo albums. I still have yet to give a full listen to Peter's and Ace's.

People Are People got a lot

People Are People got a lot of CD play from me

SYF on Spotify

SYF is on Spotify although it isn’t named as such - it’s listed as Grateful Dead Records collection and is with the other albums issued on Record Store Day as a box set, Mars, Wake of the Flood, Blues for Allah although these again are not listed under their actual original titles. SYF is actually called live at Winterland San Francisco CA 10-20/74 after each individual song title.

Shirdipshit craves attention

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Sirdickshit!

“English pig dog, I fart in your general,direction,Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of Elderberries!

Deep Elem,

to have a little fun....The dead heads will put you on the rocks!

Styxx

felt like I was watching a Time Life compilation late night infomercial. but wait! there's more....

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This isn't fun anymore....

....thanx. Like I said a few days ago, social media is a cancer. Behold it in all it's glory. My safe corner of the internet is compromised. Way to go home.. . "Who do you think you are? What do you mean when you put us all down Walking round in circles Your nose to the ground You think you're saying something Because you're making a sound You say you've seen it all You don't care to see no more But you don't get up an go until they throw you out the door." ....Looks like Vince is the smartest man in the room right now. Shazam.

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