Dave's Picks Volume 27: Boise State University Pavilion, Boise ID 9/02/83

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 21, 2018 - 3:20pm

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kyleharmon

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i never played A Link to the

i never played A Link to the Past and I never knew who Bruce Cockburn was and somehow when my life flashes before me I wont be thinking I wasted my life because of it
July 21, 2018 - 2:57pm

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Thin

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couple reactions:

"The blues started with field workers on farms who got it from gospel and African roots". Seriously??? Thank you HendrixFreak for the correction - holy moly, how far can we disassociate the musical contributions of slaves? Let's give then credit... I think they earned it, no? Mononhahela regarding your 1980 dilemma... stay loud on the topic until your miracle appears. Unless you're dying for the actual article, in which case go ahead and spend the $40 (but that's a lot of money). Sixtus re: 2/15/73 Dark Star.. the accessible melodic ones are my favs. Thanks for the signpost. I believe the Wembley 4/7 or 8/72 Dark Star is also very melodic.... love that one. Anybody notice something different????
July 21, 2018 - 2:52pm

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simonrob

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Labels...

Now it is plain for all to see the problems that arise from trying to label different types of music. So whatever happened to country rock, for instance. Were the Beatles rock'n'roll? Who cares. Daverock, your ignorance of who Bruce Cockburn is, is indeed inexcusable. To put another pointless label on him, he could be called the Canadian Bob Dylan, but then again...
July 21, 2018 - 2:27pm

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daverock

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Bob Dylan Mr Heartbreak....Bruce Cockburn?

Yes, I'd go along with what you say about his Bobness. To me, he raised the bar lyrically in the same way Hendrix did instrumentally. Maybe people who would otherwise never have considered setting their poems to music did so as a result of Dylan. This wasn't always a good thing, mind you.Incidentally, excuse my ignorance...but who's Bruce Cockburn?
July 21, 2018 - 1:04pm

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highstrikerjay

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1983

In anticipation of 09/02/83, I've been listening to some other well regarded fall '83 shows today, notably 09/06/83 and 10/11/83. If 09/02/83 is cut from the same cloth, it will be a solid pick. Totally digging those other 83 shows (as I do the other official releases from '83 - 10/14 and 10/21). Next up while I wait for DaP 27, I think I'll spin 10/17/83. Don't compare '83 to shows from '67 to '79, just enjoy them for what they are. Also perhaps not as cleanly played or recorded as '87-'89, but more crispy in between song jams in '83 IMO than in those later years. Bless the digital archives!!
July 21, 2018 - 12:53pm

#1526

kyleharmon

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for you, Orosbouros
July 21, 2018 - 12:38pm

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Dark-Star

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Semantic tangeant

Rock music, pop music, Prog music blah blah blah. The point that was being made is that our generation and our parents generation were around for the invention of rock pop Prog whatever you want to call it music. it's not classical it's not baroque,it's not rap. We were around when the artists were alive and their records were being made and our parents played their records and we played their records. In 200 years there may not be anything that sounds even remotely like this, yet we were here to see live concerts of it. In 200 years they will most likely look back on the Beatles And The Rolling Stones and Elvis and say wow to have been alive when all of that was happening, all of that great music. Nobody's trying to identify when the first rock record was made. A point was made that the elements that came together to make modern rock and roll were a perfect storm that will never happen again, and WE got to live to see it. And to say The Beatles weren't a rock band, well by that logic I could listen to Dead Flowers by the Stones and say they're not a rock band. Or I could listen to the Song is Over by The Who and say that's easy listening. Or I could listen to That's the Way by Led Zeppelin and say they're not rock they're folk. I'm starting to hear hairs being split just to split hairs. We got to see all of these people while they were alive that's the point. And the styles they developed will never be redone again because all of the things that went into making it are already done. It was clearly stated that the Beatles brought it to the world and they did. It was never said that they did it without anyone's influence. Mind left body I thought you made a good point. Birth is bringing it to the world which is what the Beatles did and continued to do until their breakup. It's nonsense to attribute the explosion of pop / rock music to anyone other than the Beatles. Without the Beatles it would have all remained esoteric. And yes other bands picked up where they left off and carried the torch. The Beatles brought it to the world. And to be honest I don't even like the Beatles that much. The White Album should have been cut in half, and the first five albums I'm mostly throwaways and are summed up in the one red greatest hits album. Sergeant Pepper Magical Mystery Tour and Abbey Road are pretty good. My point is I don't even like him that much but I know what their role was in the birth of rock and roll music.
July 21, 2018 - 12:22pm

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Mr_Heartbreak

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Changing the Course of Rock History

Interesting discussion of rock history, but I think everyone here is forgetting the man who changed the course of music forever: Mr. Robert Zimmerman, aka, Bob Dylan. He turned on the Beatles. Before Dylan, they were "She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah." After Dylan, they began to see song lyrics as poetry, an art form. Jimi Hendrix? Same thing. Look at the covers: Like A Rolling Stone, arguably the most important song in rock history; All Along the Watchtower; Drifters' Escape. etc, etc. The Dead? Don't even get me started. Without Dylan, Robert Hunter and Jerry Garcia never would have gone beyond playing some old folk and bluegrass tunes together. Look at the covers with them, too: they were covering It's All Over Now Baby Blue when they were still playing tiny venues in 1966. Meanwhile, Dylan was conquering Europe on a mass scale. Dylan pushed everyone: the Stones, the Byrds, the Doors. Without Dylan's massive influence, going back as far as '63, songs played on the radio - rock and pop alike - would always have remained boy/girl love songs and cheesy pop. Without Dylan, we never would have had the Dead as we know them, or the Beatles (beyond the first couple albums), Bruce Cockburn, Hendrix, or any form of prog rock. Dylan is The Godfather of all modern music that has lyrics with any depth whatsoever.
July 21, 2018 - 11:35am

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daverock

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Rock n' roll

Some great views expressed on here on this subject. I love The Beatles, and there is no question that they started life as a rock n' roll group. And that they periodically revisited it to great effect-especially on "The Beatles For Sale". But the music that they will be remembered for is not, to me, rock n' roll-or rock. It is pop music. That isn't a bad thing-but its what it is. No way hozay is "Sergeant Pepper" rock n' roll. Actually there is more of a case for claiming that The Beatles invented prog rock than rock n' roll. Finer men than me have tried to identify the first rock n' roll record. But for what its worth, Robert Johnson definitely played with more rhythm than earlier country bluesman. Fast forward to 1948, and we have John Lee Hooker and Muddy Waters playing electric guitars with a much heavier beat. Any of these artists could be credited with starting rock-but its probably Elvis Presley and Chuck Berry, both seemingly independently of each other, mixing country with blues to create what is known as rock n' roll today. After the pop of the early 60s, the man who really invented "rock" as we know it today, and as distinct from "rock n 'roll" was surely Jimi Hendrix. He brought his blues and soul chops to London in 1966, added the volume and power chords associated with Pete Townsend, the craziness of Jeff Beck, wrapped it all up in ball and kicked it out of the park. A far greater influence than The Beatles-every band I saw in the 70s owed something to him. There is surely room for ongoing development, too. Rock n' roll is a hybrid of earlier musical forms, from different cultures, combined together to create something new. Its a great blueprint for the future.
July 21, 2018 - 11:22am

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Mind-Left-Body

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KF completely on target

What I took from Keith fan's essay is that the Beatles did not invent the first rock and roll song, they took all of the primal elements that define today's rock and roll from various sources and put them together into one whole and brought music that had rock elements from an esoteric underground entity to a worldwide industry. While you all make good points about the history of rock in general, I don't believe that Keith fan means to say none of that is true, only that it was the precursor to what has become today's rock and roll music. The rock music of the 60s and 70s and 80s and 90s is molded after the Beatles and their contemporaries like the Rolling Stones and The Kinks and The Who and many others, not Elvis not Jerry Lee Lewis not Bill Haley, not anything before the Beatles. What I see in some of the counterpoints being raised here are people missing points in the original article. For example someone might respond to my comments by saying lots of musicians were influenced by Elvis so how can I say that modern music wasn't in part due to Elvis's career? The answer is, that's not what I'm saying. I am saying that modern music doesn't take on the arrangement and style of Elvis, it takes on that of The Beatles and their contemporaries. And the contemporaries that I mentioned worked off of The Beatles and took their lead from the Beatles and then added their own elements. The artists before the Beatles that some people mentioned, collectively produced elements that the Beatles then unified and brought pop sensibility to. This brought about a seismic shift in the way the bands that were the Beatles contemporaries approached music. In the late 60s and early 70s they all fed off of each other, but it started with the Beatles. And those other bands contributed to the continued development, such as the Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin The Grateful Dead Etc. The Beatles were the birth of rock and roll. They did not write the first rock song, they put the puzzle together and industrialized it. In doing that, there was a birth. Nobody is wrong here in any of the smaller points they've made about the significant contributions of some artists who came before The Beatles. The over arching main point though is that the Beatles brought it all together and introduced it to the world. The embryo analogy was spot-on. In its simplest manifestation you could say that without the Beatles there would be no Rolling Stones or Who or Zeppelin as we know them today. If they were to exist at all, meaning if they were able to even break out of the underground, the Stones would sound like their first record which was all R&B covers, Led Zeppelin 1 would all sound like you shook me and I can't quit you baby, and The Who would all be like shout and shimmy and I'm a man. Rock music as we know it today would not sound as it does today without the Beatles. But if you take away any one single other group that was mentioned pre-beatles, The Beatles would still have been the Beatles. I'll stop rambling now. I just have always connected with what Keith fan said here but I can't say it as eloquently. And then I saw some responses that didn't seem to get the point. I mean everyone's disputing the term birth. Birth is not the invention of something. Birth is to bring something to the world. The Beatles didnt invent rock, they brought rock to the world (and with a genetic makeup that was all their own). That's what I took from Keith fans original comment when he said we witnessed the birth of rock and roll. That we did. We didn't witness the conception of rock and roll we witness the birth. That's what I took Keith fan correct me if I'm wrong.

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

SYF

Unless you are a compulsive completist.. I wouldn't bother. It's ok..

I once thought I had a Chinese friend....

....but it was just my imagine Asian.

* SYF song selection/ track list

...the albums song selections were mostly picked by Phil and the others were picked by Garcia... :)Since the official release, there has been complaints and praises for the LP... I for one dig it, I love this LP ! At the time of production, quadraphonic technology appeared ascendant. In anticipation, the album was mixed for the QS standard – one of several competing vinyl matrix formats. Rather than a dedicated stereo mix, during mastering the quadraphonic mix was folded down to two channels. Lesh explained that he and Bear decided to mix "the whole thing in 'quad' ... Band chronicler Blair Jackson explained why Lesh's method for song choice didn't mesh with Deadhead expectation: "[It] had none of the natural flow of a Grateful Dead concert. It was as if someone had thrown all the songs into a hat and then pulled them out randomly, which is not the way the Grateful Dead operated at all. Their sets, while definitely eclectic, were built piece by piece according to what songs felt right to play at the moment. Garcia's choices would affect Weir's choices and vice versa. Steal Your Face consisted mainly of short songs that were usually played in the lighter first set, and it was devoid of any extended improvisation. Considering the material that was available from that five-night run, the song selection was mystifying to say the least."[13] Garcia saw the album as a specific statement from the same era as the movie, noting "[Phil] picked out what he liked for his own reasons. If anyone wants to have some concept of what Phil likes, that's a good album. ... We don't interfere with each other on that level."[13]

Exactly lovemygirl....

....Steal Your Face has no flow. (I read between the lines). Glad you like it. I tolerate it. It's right up there with What A Long Strange Trip It's Been. With the plethora of realeases over the last 16 years, they both collect quite a bit of dust, even though the music is clean. ....the again, good luck guessing a JRAD setlist. Ghaa!

Steal Your Face (LP) 2017 reissue

This album is my least favorite live Grateful Dead album, however this reissue sounds excellent. The sound is far superior to the original 1976 release, and more than a few steps above the 1989 Compact Disc 1st edition issue. I agree that the Mississippi from 10/19/74 is a good performance, especially the sound on this on reissued LP. Why I don't like Steal Your Face is because of the song sequence, it is not very compelling to me, not even after 42 years. It just doesn't stand up to Live/Dead, Skullfuck & Europe '72. I bought the original LP not long after my 6/22/76 and 6/24/76 shows at the Tower Theater in Upper Darby, near Philadelphia, Pa. Yes, I have all three versions: the original 1976 album, the 1989 CD, and this 2017 remastered LP.

Heaven Help The Fool Boise Space....

....I hear you Bobby. See what repeat listenings can do? Moving this show from a B- to a B as of now.

Reflections....

....a few heads stated they felt Garcia was playing a different song during the Boise Throwing Stones. No he wasn't. He was playing the Boise Throwing Stones. Does that make sense? Makes sense to me. And the GDTRFB leaves no prisoners. Everyone is released! Ghaaa!

Deads Live albums

I'm not so keen on Steal Your Face either, I'm afraid. I was really surprised when I started listening to tapes, years later, just how good those October 1974 shows were-and how mis-represented they had been on Steal Your Face. I have felt this about other official live albums they released in their life time, too. Bears Choice is a bit of a shocker-considering some of the music played at those shows, and while Skull and Roses and Europe 72 are okay (especially the last two sides of the old album of Europe 72) they are again much weaker than the shows they were culled from. Again-especially Europe 72-I have listened to every show from the European tour this year-and every one is stellar. But you would never realise just how good the tour was listening to the old Europe 72 album. It seems as though the band thought the record buying public would prefer to hear their songs, rather than their jams. The one live album that has stood the test of time for me unquestionably, is Live Dead. They got THAT one right.

Live/Dead/Europe '72/Dead Set/Reckoning....

....got them all right. Next year, they're gonna bust out the AoxomoxoA and Live/Dead 50th's. Ohhhh shit. Better buckle up. AoxomoxoA is my favorite studio release btw.

And it's all over now....

....Baby Blue. A treasure. And a tear ran down my face, because it was stolen.

...I also have love for

...I also have love for ‘Bears’s Choice’, This release is also not very welcomed in the Dead’s fan base, but there’s some there that grabs me; you can hear the wooden floor planks and all...

Shirdeep man!

You know how offensive at least one of this community's core members finds Manson.Please be kind. If you need to oppose JimInMD's outburst (and you have been here long enough to know that Jim is NOT one of our easy-to-rile members, but rather a voice of reason in our often stormy environs) WRITE something. Posting another Manson vid seems really dickish to me. I almost wrote something against Jim's response to your first Manson post (freedom, historical significance, outsider culture, yadda yadda). Now I am really glad I didn't.

Manson....

....has no place here. Fuck that asshole. You want the truth? There aren't many people that would have me put on some leather gloves, so my knuckles wouldn't be tarnished as I pounded his smirky face into a bloody pulp. The veil is lifted. Have fun in hell you piece of shit. (someone had to say it). Fact of life. Some people just need to get their ass kicked. (I speak for the trees). Problem?

Bears Choice....

....is head and shoulders above SYF. Who knew there were so many other choices/USDA prime cuts out there back when it was originally released? We are a spoiled lot....Oh yeah. I would pay to see Manson thrown into a wood chipper. Is there a problem?

SYF

I think we'd feel entirely different about SYF if it had a third disc. What would have been the perfect jams?

I wouldnt listen to the Beach

I wouldnt listen to the Beach Boys then cuz Charles Manson known as "The Wizard" befriended a beach boy at the time and co wrote a beach boys song and its now uncredited. that same beach boy slept with a gun under his pillow ever since. read Marilyn Manson's biography his "My Monkey" incorporates elements of that there "mechanical Man" song. played it. I don't even know what to say about it. it's like this big sprawled out rambling mess lol "I sent my monkey off to the country now my monkey's dead" WHAT??? lol and now monkey gone to heaven. shirdeep is communicating and that message is: Monkey

Gun under the pillow....

.... I've done that. Long story. Last five.The Bangles - Different Light Megadeth - Youthinasia GOGD - 4.15.70 Rush - Farewell To Kings The Cars - Panorama and so it goes....

The Bangles Different Light....

....don't laugh. Good vibes in that record. Such good vibes, they were invited to open for the GOGD. That says something. Dust it off and walk like an Egyptian.

Shirdeep I hear your "monkey" message loud and clear

Lay My Lily Down

I don't always listen to new releases right away. I had an idea that Bob's recent, "Blue Mountain," was full of boring acoustic campfire songs with, perhaps, lyrical wonder but no musical spark. That was about half true. A solid album and graced by two brilliantly produced nuggets, "Lay My Lily Down," and "Ghost Towns." I won't post links, youtube it if you want. I am shocked that Bob has, at least on these two tunes and to a perhaps lesser extent on others, adopted the pillow over the microphone dull, decades old ambiance reminiscent of recent T-Bone Burnett productions, Daniel Lanois, Robert Plant, etc. I don't know what to call it, so I'll call it "contemporary music by current artists making classy recordings that sound decades old and give me hope that great music will continue." God Bless everyone. Happy Sunday.

Vguy72 question

Hi Vguy72 - you mentioned in a post about the 50th anniversary reissues. Do you know if the live albums are going to be reissued or is it just the studio? Cheers

Live albums I do like

Two live Dead albums I did like-and still do-are Historic Dead and Vintage Dead. Slightly shady releases, but for live albums from 1966 they sound really good. Unlike the later ones I mentioned, these do seem to accurately reflect the bands sound and style, as subsequently revealed on tapes from the year in question. I don't think they have ever been released on cd, either.

shirdeep

Can you please stop posting all of the YouTube links. They're distracting and not relevant to any Grateful Dead discussion. Thank you.

Steal Your Face

I have this on an LP which is an old radio station promo copy. Its all beat up, and doesn't sound so good anymore. Probably been played 100s of times. I'm tempted to hear a good, new copy. I think the format of the album is well suited for an LP. Its mostly shorter songs, not twenty minute jams. It doesn't "feel" like a live set --- more like an album that happens to be live tracks. Which is okay sometimes. 20-25 minutes of an upbeat, bouncy side while I'm grilling some steaks is perfect. I like the E72 LP for the same reason. Also, curiously, that album isn't on Spotify. Almost everything else that's a general release is. Neither is the GD movie soundtrack, which is what you go to for the live show feel from that run. Maybe they're holding it back for a box set release later :)))))

Ledded and laying lilly

When I saw Bob live in Dallas for this cowboy tour, Lay My Lily Down was one of my fav's that night. When I got the show I played the living shit out of that tune. Just my two cents, but I'm ok with Sheepdip posting youtube vids. I certainly don't check them all out, but they're easy enough to scroll by and once an awhile you get shown some good stuff you didn't know about. Once again, just my two cents. Two more days of work, then off to Lockn, yeah!

Oh no! A non Dead Link

My kid showed me this guy last night, I'll be getting some of this guy in. Leo Moracchioli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA0_vr_Ktl8

Of its time

I am happy for the 80's fans who have waited long for something from this era. I think I would have had a really good time if I had been at the show, this must be great as a souvenir and a slice of history for those lucky enough to have access to Dead shows at that time (they had given up on Europe by then). Listening now in a quiet room on a good hi-fi though, it is all to easy to be distracted by the deterioration of so many things from the 'Golden Era'(as I perceive it). I enjoyed it more than I thought and maybe now and then might give it another spin. No complaints though. I am happy to pay my subs and get to focus 4 times a year on a selected show from the vault, whether I end up listening to it once or 100 times.

Disagree Dennis.

Once I awhile shirdeeps vids are ok, but they're getting to be several times a day of nothing about the Dead. Charles Manson? Had his minions string up a woman 8 months pregnant over a rafter and stab her death as she begged for her baby's life. Fuck him and fuck shirdeep for posting this garbage. Shirdeep used to be cool when he posted rare Dead pics, but he's devolved.

Butch, SYF, new series etc

Butch, right on fuck that spoiled little bitch! Sorry folks that’s what happens when you poison the Golden well with hate! SYF, I will not argue with the critical comments. Would just mention, again, about keeping perspective. The methodology employed for live albums has mostly been to record as much material as possible, using the best equipment possible (budget etc) and then cull the supposed “best” versions of songs, add a little crowd mix and fade in out overlaps to give the “product” the feeling of an actual concert. Hell King Biscuit Flour Hour used to do the same thing I.e., 5/80 (recorded that off the radio on graduation night whilrpe my giant extended family was all out in the back yard, hee-hee, what a freak! But I digress. So yeah, it has no natural flow, and of course anything from then without big jams is just......? But there are some great versions, and if it was redone as well as the Movie Soundtrack, well..... Mainly though I love this album for nostalgia. It brings back so many memories from when I was 14 and just getting on board. Have always loved the pictures; Bill with that giant bong, Phil with the different colored socks, and man nothing filled the imagination of a budding audio geek like those pics of TWOS! Remember youngins’ there was no internet, and the dead was hardly the well known entity they would become, for good or for ill? That album and a few others were like are only gateway to the dead! So looking at those pics, and digging that amazing, now iconic art...and of course what that album jacket as well as Skull fuck got used for, perhaps more than to retrieve the platter, ahem, yeah..... I will always have a spot deep in my heart for this and skullfuck if only because of what they meant to me at that time in my life etc. Today, hands down, imho, Live Dead will always be the benchmark for not only live dead “albums” but perhaps the greatest live album ever! I dug it then, but still a little to green behind the gills to fully “get it” then. That did change with time, like the first time I “saw the electric light shine” and after getting dropped off at home very late, put on the headphones and figured, “I should probably listen to live dead” Amazing, also, seemed like it was only ten minutes long LOL Tried playing my electric with no amp, but thought I was making too much noise and would awaken the rents, who would instantly KNOW! LMAO! Too funny, cause I lived in the basement with a literal McIntosh, JBL wall of sound, used to come home baracho at all hours, worked as a roadie and sound tech, so again, coming and going at all hours, and they never got up. But of course that night I was sure they’d be on to me! I distinctly remeber after like 12 hours or so thinking “ah, this is what they mean by your either on the bus or off” like, this is never going to end LOL. You know, it will be less there, but it’s always going to be there! NOTE; I personally really think Nightfall of Diamonds is right up there in the top echelon; an actual full show, not cut ups, great audio, super set list. I think this one really flies under the radar. NEW SERIES; I’ve been saying this for years. Not specifically like who was it Kayak Guy? with the Betty Special Select concept, but the general idea of more releases, even if you have different tiers or levels of product. The super multi’s, that deserve the extra care and exspense get released say 4 or 5 times a year, with a box or 2 for the top tier, with perhaps a level, or two more below, including a quick and dirty Cassete SB type level ala 27. Those could certainly be pumped out a bit more steadily. If it’s a matter of staff, Hell im qualified and available. Me and Vguy will spit out enough product to make you dizzy! I fully understand and agree with who ever (sorry?? Memory shot) laid out the great marketing plan that is probably in play about releasing older stuff first since it will attract folks from tha era, as well as the rest, before all us geezers croak, while saving the later years for the youngins from that era. Makes sense, no matter what your fav, I think most folks really love to get official releases of shows they were at, in any form. But they are gambling on this remaining as vibrant, and thus as economically viable, as it is now. Why not get as much out now as possible? What if suddenly they lose their audience? I believe after the band folded, that was sort of the goal. I believe I read something from Mickey about trying to make every show somehow available ala cart so folks could just order what ever they pleased. But then Phil put the kibosh on it with “Im not selling the catalog to a Corp/won’t ever let trucking apear on a Chevy commercial” etc.. At the time that kinda made sense, just like finding someone to Front the huge digitizing costs etc to make it available made some sense. But much time has passed since then, and tech and the music industry have radically changed. So yeah, why the hell not have tiered releases, priced and released according. As our lovely English friends might say RIGHT, BRILLIANT!

youtube links

Some are really good-the blues and jazz ones from a while back were great. And that one of King Crimson with Adrian Belew on vocals was alright. I don't think shirdeep posted any of these-he has different taste to me-but hey ho. I wasn't so keen on seeing Mansons face peering out at me when I scrolled down, mind you.

I have all four kiss solo

I have all four kiss solo albums. I still have yet to give a full listen to Peter's and Ace's.

People Are People got a lot

People Are People got a lot of CD play from me

SYF on Spotify

SYF is on Spotify although it isn’t named as such - it’s listed as Grateful Dead Records collection and is with the other albums issued on Record Store Day as a box set, Mars, Wake of the Flood, Blues for Allah although these again are not listed under their actual original titles. SYF is actually called live at Winterland San Francisco CA 10-20/74 after each individual song title.

Shirdipshit craves attention

Short are the legs that struggle behind

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Sirdickshit!

“English pig dog, I fart in your general,direction,Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of Elderberries!

Deep Elem,

to have a little fun....The dead heads will put you on the rocks!

Styxx

felt like I was watching a Time Life compilation late night infomercial. but wait! there's more....

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Sacred Quest

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Loser

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This isn't fun anymore....

....thanx. Like I said a few days ago, social media is a cancer. Behold it in all it's glory. My safe corner of the internet is compromised. Way to go home.. . "Who do you think you are? What do you mean when you put us all down Walking round in circles Your nose to the ground You think you're saying something Because you're making a sound You say you've seen it all You don't care to see no more But you don't get up an go until they throw you out the door." ....Looks like Vince is the smartest man in the room right now. Shazam.

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