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    marye
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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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  • mona
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    hey
    vvhat johnman said :)
  • JackstrawfromC…
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    My experience
    With chat rooms and not necessarily at dead.net is that the people who are shady i.e. pose threats are in fact juveniles in the 10-12 year old range. It doesn't mean there isn't a more sinister plot going on too but the majority are kids being stupid. After watching what they write for awhile it is painfully obvious what their age is.. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
  • marye
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    yeah
    the logging thing is available to one and all. But the fact that people are getting into the chatroom without logging onto Dead.net is a problem.
  • cosmicbadger
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    some thoughts
    Thank you Marye. I am sure everyone appreciates deadnet hosting the Chatroom and as Swan has mentioned, it is not an issue of permanent moderation: in general conflicts have been sorted out pretty quick there. But the lack of security makes it far too easy for those few people with bad intentions to exploit and abuse others. In fact have now discovered just how easy it is to ‘break into’ the chatroom from outside. My understanding is that Gagalive is a free internet Chatroom service that has been embedded in deadnet and that it could be hard for Deadnet to impose its own additional security on it. But I am not an expert on these things. It has also dawned on me that as long as you are logged into the CR you can scroll back through (and therefore copy/paste) all the chat from the moment you logged in. So if you stay anonymously logged on for hours or days from the outside (like some people appear to do) you may be able just to copy everything that has gone on. I was going to do an experiment to test this, but eavesdropping even for a few moments makes me feel really bad, so I won’t. If the chat record has a much shorter life (a few minutes) it might make systematic logging much more hassle. Hope this helps CB
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    may i suggest ideas about chatroom's safety
    for sure i want this chat room to keep going , and want topics to be discussed without " politically correct " restrains about opinions . The real urgency , methinks, is about safety settings in 3 easy steps ; 1) anyone wanting access to chatroom must be fist logged in at dead.net and 2) must first be a registered member with dead.net (with a valid e-mail) , and 3) gagalive/deadnet must install specific settings to not allow access to chatplace by bypassing login and registration at deadnet . These can be practical answers for safety , and to complete this format , a once prior agreement that anyone using chatroom is responsable to never send bugs and viruses at users of dead.net , nonrespect of that clause leading to definite expulsion from dead.net .
  • marye
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    guys
    I'm reporting this to see if there's anything we can do. I don't want to shut the chat room down, for example, so better to figure out something more reasonable. As many have noted, no, threatening people is not okay, nor is misrepresenting yourself as a Rhino employee (or anyone else) to do so.
  • johnman
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    it's with sadness
    that i read these posts. i have had good and bad experiences in our chatroom, recently very good things have come my way FROM the chatroom, tickets and a hotel room to be exact, so i know there are still good, loving kind folks there. we don't always hafta agree on certain subjects or topics, and there are some that i intentionally avoid discussing in there because i know we don't all have the same point of view. the one thing we DO share is love for the music. other than prayer, the music has been the one constant in my life that i can turn to when i just can't take it anymore. please, any of you that are thinking about leaving us, please, please reconsider. if we keep enough kind folk in there, and commit to not dragging others down with our personal problems (and yes, i am one of those that is guilty of doing this, not intentionally but the chat is my refuge) mebbe we can outweigh the people who don't love the site as much as we do......badger, i'm gonna miss your kind thoughts and words, hopefully you will still use the forums? i love all of you more than you know....you are my FAMILY!!!
  • DancingSingingGirl
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    Cosmic Badger KA Swan
    Using a photo or scripts from the chatroom to harm others is an awful practice/ game and should not be allowed. I was told that recently, things that I had said, in " Play " an 'Imaginative spacey conversation we were having,' was re-posted elsewhere with some important content changed, someone had changed my words, to cause a very hurtful situation ! I know that this has happened to thers as well. I agree it is slander. We love the chatroom and mostly we love sharing The Grateful Deads Music in there... It should not be a tool, used to harm and manipulate others ! play on
  • stuman
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    again reasons I DO NOT use chatroom
    Badger , swan , frankly you said it all . lets get rid of gagalive and make it a Dead.net MEBERS ONLY thing . I for one do not want to talk to folks who are mean and or just not like minded as we all are . I would be more then happy to come back to the chatroom .
  • cosmicbadger
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    I am sorry TL and Mona and
    I am sorry TL and Mona and Swan and everyone else, but I am not going near that place again until I can be more confident that i) it is reasonably secure ii) people who use it are identifiable and accountable iii) it is not being taken over by hackers iv) our conversations are not being recorded and manipulated and v) my computer is not vulnerable to attack (the consequences would be catastrophic for me) Some or all of the the claims and threats that have been made may very well be utter bullshit. I don’t know enough about computers to know, and I am not sure how these concerns can be addressed by 'toughing it out' from inside the chatroom. Still, there must be other ways to fix this. By hosting the chatroom for the registered members of the site, Deadnet must have some responsibility for its security. Especially since the main protagonist has even claimed that he is an ‘insider’ who works for Rhino!!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed did bent mylimb play and stickey start and bom constantly. Heard they played a few times?
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When's your mom throwin out those old unwanted dead tapes?
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Johnman, you fergot Krill Hoistman 'n' Crowbar Grunter....
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I guess I did....and Macky Hort.....
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Blessings and Prayers.To the Soldiers The Warriors PeaceMakers Not The Governments that put them there the Men/Women And there Families far to many have been effected on all sides. No war Is worth the Damage to humans everywhere And Blessings to All Lost In This Silly Drug War Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Well i guess the folks who operate this site don't want the chatroom anymore.I am very disappointed as i met some great friends in there and visited this site almost everyday to see them.I am going to try and continue on without it,but as a disabled and fairly homebound deadhead,i just want everyone i met there to know my life was better with you all in it.The time i spent there everyday was a blessing to me and i love all of you very much.Thank you for all you did to bring me happiness and joy while we had the chance to be together.The place will be sorely missed by this deadhead.I wish you all the peace,love happiness and prosperity that life can offer.Now i will fly up into the sky and disappear into a hole in the smog like the lorax.
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while I can't say what's ultimately on the minds of the higher-ups, I think it's fairly obvious that the finite technical resources have been rather consumed with the 30 Days of Dead and that's likely to continue for the next couple of weeks. When I have anything more specific to report I will.
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your post has me a wee bit worried.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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and the absence of the chat room should not mean that people don't find another way to stay in touch. In my old age I've seen a lot of online gathering places come and go, and it's just a practical reality to have a disaster plan--I mean, if Gagalive could vanish with no warning in a heartbeat... Being on the Internet is like living in earthquake country. You need a disaster plan. All of which is not to say that we're unaware or unappreciative of the issue, or that we're not planning to address it, but people need to figure out ways to stay in touch with each other also!
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http://www.savagetek.com/dnet/ <<< sweethearted savge has made a dead chat 4 us during this time os the deadnetchat darkages :P chat ppl go there. more at nite than day. so show up and say hey to eacher like we use to. PEACE (~);-)
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the abcents of deadnet chat does mean alot to ppl. its been there for how long?? only true site where we can and have met. hope u guys figure it out cause alot miss it :)
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I know before you used to be able to make a chat room.With some Hosts/Servers. What about a ICQ. And how much could it cost?? Be proactive make your own. When did us freaks of society wait to be told where to go and when :)? Too much knowledge in this venue not to come up with a answer, Peace and Blessings to all. Smiley dave Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Just did a search for cost of a chat room on web.Many free and cheap choices. The dyslexia is rampant this am so ill leave the reading to others. Peas Smiley D Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Ok i basically found out that all ya need is a web site.And then post the chat link. Ok everyone say no shit sherlock. hey news to me. We can get a go go daddy or other cheap hoster. Host Gator is A good one for 90 a year. Now can we get a link on deadnet to point them to the Chat room.?? I will even volunteer i now have a dictation thing for mac so my typing and data processing much quicker. I figure a basic DEAD CHAT ENTER and away it goes even if 100 people only want to do it 5 bucks should cover it for 3 yrs. Unless i do not understand which happens with Just being dense.. Good one and Blessings to all Smiley Dave. Ill buy a box and run it for everyone(box a computer just for chat and downloading music was planning on it any ways since. im not moving as soon as id like. might as swell. Some one contemplate this tell me my errors and what corrections. Please correct my ignorance, Smiley Dave Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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But thank God for the chatroom. Hope someday it comes back, I tend to agree that the tech side will be taken up with 30 days of the dead and then Christmas time orders...we prob won't see one till after January. And we do have the savage chatroom bail out that mona mentioned. Although, sometimes it's not populated. I miss you all a bunch, but I know I can always pick up a phone too. Love yas, and mwas. ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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are you ?
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johnman thought it was a spammer.....bur with an actual name, and picture....ahhh, probably spam....
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must be-considering she's been a member for only 8 hours, and the chatroom has been down for longer than that. ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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off to the bit bucket she goes...
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I feel like I may have won on the 23rd, but it's now going on 8:00 PM and it still says they haven't selected a winner. I'm just wondering if this is normal because I've never paid much attention to it until today, and to be honest I really would like to know who won.
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The intrepid Darren has set up a chat room for us. Please be aware that we're expecting it to be a bit buggy, so go ahead and put it through its paces and report any issues. Thank you Darren!
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Thanks Marye and intrepid Darren seems to work for me, but I am all alone so far!
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it may take a while to get back the momentum!
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Wohoooo chatroom♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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oh boy!!...I'm gonna try it right now....!!!
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a nice Christmas present from yall......thanks!
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marye anbd Darren. :)) hope your holidaze r bountiful with love! u sure have made mine! MWA!!!
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it sure is workin no one in though but probably early in the good old us of a !!!!!!!!!!
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Blessings and prayers to you and yours.Have a Great Holidaze. Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!
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Yes, there is a login to the chat room. However, you don't need to create a separate account, just use the same ID and password that you use to log in here. We had some problems with the old chat that people who were not logged in here and probably not members were getting in the chat room and causing trouble, so this is meant to solve that issue. And, with regard to another issue from the old chat, this new chat room comes with the ability to ignore people who annoy you. So if someone's acting up, just select their name in the list in the right column (who's in the chat room), click for the pulldown menu, and select Ignore. This should put an end to the playground squabbles as there is no need to engage with a squabbler. Thanks and chat on!
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remove the offending party from your view, while still allowing others to see their posts?
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No "censorship," but no audience either if everyone does this. Bad actors are attention junkies, and rendering them the proverbial tree falling in the forest when nobody hears it deprives them of the audience they crave. Freedom of speech does not mean anyone has to listen to you.
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just was curious on minor technical aspects, however, it does seem to leave open a few things...thanx marye!!
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if you're the kind of person who googles yourself to see what people are saying about you, this approach may have its failings. But in general few things shut bad actors up faster than the realization they're talking to a void.
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just tried to log in- to the chat room, using my screenname acount from here, and I guess My name is too long ? I could not log in, using my name and password from herer ? what to do ? oo ?? Happy Holidaze everybody ! Beth ( Liz ) Kempf Hey Now OO play on- KEEP LISTENING
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I have no idea. Let me know if the problem persists.
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into "The Lounge" once or twice, when had a second-but was lounging alone. Wrong time or wrong place, not sure which :)********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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probably wrong time...
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it's pretty slow here during the holidays...at least till the shows start!
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The route 420 sign is pictured through out the Dead scenario.Can someone tell me what it signifies other than the obvious? (U.S. Highway)?
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it is really getting to be an issue to be able to get on chat. been slow anough since the new one but hard when u invite ppl who really want to come on and its just a hassle so they give up. have to give weird unstructions like go and back and forth between to white page and the not found page to get the blue page. then if u get the whole blue page it wont post what u r typing. i know savage offered his services in helping to get a free chat that work very well. so i do hope u look into it. we DO like are chat and would love others to come and share the love. TY :)
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it thinks we have dirty minds :) Totall innocent words that we type, such as glasses or documentary get automatically changed into weird things.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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I will pass this along. I know the tech guys have one or two other things on their plates these days.