Dave's Picks Volume 27: Boise State University Pavilion, Boise ID 9/02/83

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 22, 2018 - 6:46am

#1481

unkle sam

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9-2-83

Just had a listen to this show yesterday. I like the way Wang Dang Doodle starts and slowly builds to start off the show, makes you think something really cool is about to happen. A lack luster first set except for the opener and that great Deal at the end. Second set not so hot either, the pre drums is kinda muddy, the drums is short and goes no where, the space is nice, but really doesn't build to anything either, the post drums with a "new song" delivered like a single, Throwing Stones gets so much better in the late 80's and into the 90's. All in all, I give this show a C average and certainly not the "stunner" it is advertised as. Sure hope the next pick is better than this one. I don't know if any of you were around in the 40's, I wasn't. But I think you can trace Rock and Roll all the way back to then, or even the 30's, or maybe the roaring 20's, hard to say. Of course, back then it was "Heathen" music, "Black" music and a thing that you kept your young children away from, "no son/daughter of mine is going to listen to some muggle smoking darkie music". Segregation was in full swing back then and Rock and Roll was a thing to be feared. It was, after all, youthful rebellion which happens in every generation, that put rock and roll on the map, back then, if our parents hated it, we loved it. There were a lot of us in the 60's and music meant something back then, it was our call to arms, our mantra, we actually thought that music and love could change the world. I'm not a historian nor do I know exactly when rock and roll got it "birth". Glad it did tho, sure was an uptight world full of lies and hate back then, wow, I just got a feeling like I've been here before. I think someone said that they had been following history for X years or some thing like that, gee, they should know ;) But can you believe them? Most that were around then are gone or are so old that they just can't remember, and I can relate to that, memories are very subjective and history books can be distorted, or rewritten. I have had a conversation or two with my 93 year old mother-in-law who was a music teacher all thru the late 50's, 60's and 70's. When she is able to, she remembers rock and roll as a bad thing, one that was openly discouraged and frowned upon, until that "nice gospel singing hill billy" came around. He was "so nice, and good looking too". But that was rock just finally being accepted, not the birth of.
July 22, 2018 - 6:24am

#1482

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Mr Heartbreak

Thanks for the film clip of Bruce Cockburn. Some beautiful guitar playing-in fact the whole band is good. I've never heard Bob Dylan play like that!
July 22, 2018 - 6:04am

#1483

garciaddicted

Joined:
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Rock 'N' Roll

"I’ve stolen every lick he ever played", Keith Richards on Chuck Berry "The Shakespeare of rock 'n' roll", Bob Dylan on Chuck Berry "No group, be it Beatles, Dylan or Stones, have ever improved on 'Whole Lotta Shakin'' for my money.” John Lennon
July 22, 2018 - 4:28am

#1484

frosted

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Everybody knows who created rock and roll

Hey hey with the Monkees! What I find odd though is that I cut my teeth on R&R in the late 60s and into the 70s. Back then, we called the 50s the oldies. Elvis, Jerry Lee, Fats Domino, Bill Haley, Buddy Holley, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Eddie Cochrane, all those guys seemed ancient to us. Thinking about 30s and 40s music back then? Fuggettaboutit. What was that even? Musicians wearing suits with skinny ties, and huge brass bands with our grandparents swirling around the dance floors all dressed up? What gets me is that now the 60s and 70s are more than twice as long ago for today's kids as the 50s were for me, and that seemed pretty far back at the time. So the circle squares, and now I listen to more jazz from the 30s-60s than I do rock and roll from any era, the GOGD being one of the few exceptions. Get off of my lawn!
July 22, 2018 - 2:43am

#1485

simonrob

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This is not the place

for intellectual discussions between non-intellectuals.
July 21, 2018 - 11:55pm

#1486

kyleharmon

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June 5, 2007

you all need more Unicorn

you all need more Unicorn Jesus in your lives and less of this Devil rock music.
July 21, 2018 - 11:44pm

#1487

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Good Lord

Such nonsense. My cat can cut and paste. Stop it. Dave. You disappoint. No knowledge of Bruce? I posted about him during the worthless doors/who tripe.
July 21, 2018 - 11:44pm

#1488

Angry Jack Straw

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Good Lord

Such nonsense. My cat can cut and paste. Stop it. Dave. You disappoint. No knowledge of Bruce? I posted about him during the worthless doors/who tripe.
July 21, 2018 - 11:10pm

#1489

Oroborous

Joined:
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Dear Butch, DS and Keithfan

Sorry, I thought we were having a intellectual discussion about opposing theories, not trying to insult one another. So since I now feel insulted. I also feel I have to defend my self..... Please find Butch’s comments in quotes.... “Nobody even said the Beatles invented Rock n roll or coined the term, only that they brought it to life in front of the world. “ So the millions of folks for all the years before the Beatles did not enjoy RR, because it hadn’t yet been brought to life? Even though they did have some success; album sales, performances and quite a bit of airplay, RELETIVELY speaking? Because your statements could be interpreted that RR was such an underground, insignificant thing that not until the Beatles did it become well known? or “given birth” To me that’s an insult to all the men and women who actually made RR, long before the Beatles came along.... “The bottom line is that our generation DID witness the birth of rock and roll, and yes you can use the concept of birth, it's an appropriate form of symbolic language called personification. It's laughable that THAT part of the dicussion even came into question.” As I’ve politely stated, I agree with most of KF’s fine, articulate essay, just not this part. I’m imho, based on reading dozens of RR biographies, the only thing wrong with this is you could say all the same things about Chuck, only on a smaller scale...due to technological and cultural circumstances he had no control over. i understand your point just fine. You don’t need to insult me. Sorry to all you folks if this seems like I’m being snarky etc. Not trying to be, actually having a bit of fun participating in a verbal chess match, mental gymnastics, intellectual discourse etc. Used to stay up and party hard and do this sort of thing about authors, music, movies etc when I went back to collage in my thirties..... “The biggest reasons the Beatles gave birth to it, is 1)they were original,” And Chuck wasn’t? “2)they brought their brand to way more more people, WAY more people,(70 million people, come on now)” Never debated that, if you actually read my post, I ponder whether album sales and/or popularity alone is really a true distinction of what makes one relevant or not. I don’t believe album sales alone is. And comparing album sales from completely different technological and cultural times is like comparing apples to oranges....I’m sorry i obviously did not articulate my point well.. I don’t think that’s a fair, objective measure. “3)they influenced most of the bands that followed after (as well as the popular culture at large).” I have openly agreed with this statement throughout....? “Nobody else went on Ed Sullivan 1st and ushered in a movement in rock pop music. None of their predecessors did that.” Unfortunately I don’t know that much about the show, but I don’t believe in the fifties, a black man, with subversive lyrics was going to get a fair shot at a show of that prominence? I do think I recall reading that they did not want RR, but they felt they needed to make the show more current, to generate ratings, and because RR was already so prevalent in society, they needed to get with the times.....but please don’t quote me on that.....my memory is deteriorating rapidly... I also believe part of the reason Chuck received the airplay he did get, was many didn’t know he was black by his “sound” Another way for the suits to take “race music” and make it popuar with whites, so they could cash in. “They took what was out there, made it their own and in doing so TRANSFORMED rock and popular music. The bands that came after helped continue the movement,” Again, I’ve only supported this sentiment. But I also believe you could say the same, in a different way, about Berry et el... “but there's no question the Beatles brand came first.” This is where we disagree. Again, it’s an insult to all those who were oppressed and struggled through the early years of RR, so that eventually it was legitimized enough so the Beatles could explode and change the world! Kinda like the big brother or sister who breaks in the parents, so the younger siblings have an easier time.... “Millions of people latched on to to the Beatles, not Haley or Berry. “ So again, numbers are your criteria? Apples to Oranges.... “It was their mold that came first and endured” Not unless they had a time machine....sorry, that was snarky. I apologize! “Chuck Berry still hugely important and I love him to death, but he didn't do what the Beatles did” Never said he did. I repeatedly acknowledge that the Beatles were perhaps the greatest band of all time, influentially at least, if not more.... “that wasn't his role. His role may have been even better in the history of rock and roll as he influenced so many. That's not what this discussion was ever about. This discussion was about whether or not our generation was here to witness the birth of rock and roll.” Again, I understand perfectly what this is about. I’m sorry that because we disagree you feel I don’t understand your point, so much so that you have to insult my intelligence.... “The one excellent point I agree with is that Bob Dylan brought a brand that was equally important, but I don't think you could credit him with heralding in the rock movement.” No, not in and of itself, but one could argue that his innovations also had a unmeasurable influence on RR. Perhaps one of the few that came close to the Beatles level of influence? “Oborious, yes Chuck Berry was important and influenced many, but same thing, he wasn't the Beatles” Never said he was, only that he is constantly not given the credit myself, and more importantly, most of the RR elite all state in their books that he deserves, of which being credited as the true Father of RR is one. I believe Rolling Stone said something similar in their tribute to him? I’m sorry, but most of my personal belongings, including my RR library are currently in storage or I would stay up and provide references. . “You seem to be personally offended by all of this,” Not at all. I truly apologize to you, as well as everyone if that’s how this is coming across. I just think your making a generalized statement that ignores a huge block of actual history, which insults those who made it. By doing so, I don't think your theory is logical. “as you are making statements like what if Chuck has been white or what if Elvis wasn't in the right place at the right time. The discussion is about what is not what might have been or could have been. If the queen had balls she'd be king.” How can you not consider what America was like racially in the fifties, and how that would effect the success or failure of a black person? And to compare what a Fearless Black man did, during that repulsive time in our history; actually “give birth to”, basically a whole new cultural scene, and making it popular (sounds familiar?), with a group that did all the great things they did, in part, because of the foundation people like Mr Berry laid for them to build upon, only by comparing popularity or numbers? That’s like saying Miles Davis gave birth to Jazz with Kind of Blue, while all his predecessors, from decades before, did not? “I think where people are getting stuck in this dialogue is that they're feeling like the birth of rock and roll on the world scale should go to (pick your name) instead of the Beatles. There is no single person or band who invented rock and roll, but the Beatles did give birth to it in the larger world, and that was the only point that was being made along with the fact that we were here to witness it.” Sorry, agree with everything except the term birth. I have never disputed the rest. birth bərTH/Submit noun 1. the emergence of a baby or other young from the body of its mother; the start of life as a physically separate being. 1. give birth to (a baby or other young). "she had carried him and birthed him" “A physically SEPARATE being....” Your argument presupposes that the Beatles would be the parent, that gives birth to a new being... Mine presupposes that Chuck was the father that gave birth to the new being. The Beatles were that being when it fully matured, and became an adult force of nature....that went on to conquer the world, in part because of the DNA of the father.....now I may not be right, but I don’t think that’s so hard to follow is it? “V guy you're absolutely right the sensitivity scale is just beyond words. But one thing that is clear if you read through this discussion thread is that words our being misinterpreted even after clarifications are made. It's like there's no effort being made.” Touché my friend, no need to insult. Just because we don’t agree doesn’t mean I don’t understand, and that you need to insult me. You say “potAto”, I say “potaahto” And finally (I promise no more outta me anyway, hopefully I’ve made my point. Not looking to be “right” just properly understood. I don’t think you can fairly critique ones argument if you don’t properly understand it) So finally, I'd just like to state I’m sorry if I’ve bummed folks out. That was never my intent. Especially no bad vibes toward Keithfan. I thoroughly enjoy his articulate posts, and usually agree with like 98% of what he says. Think maybe I’ll just go away for a bit......”you know this space is getting hot” Peace!
July 21, 2018 - 10:46pm

#1490

snafu

Joined:
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Mr. Ones and FZ

We can now shut down this site Mr Ones you have sumed up everyone here no matter what our other disagreements " Music is the Best"

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Life/Dream

...” life is but a dream on the way to death.” ....

- info , into and who do ? ;)

Recorded by - Bill WolfAssistant Engineer- Fred Bradfield Mixing - Bear and Phil Lesh at Burbank Studios Stereo Synthesis - Bear, John Neal with thanks to Dr. Haas Chief engineer - John Neal Engineers - Steve Brimmer, Frank Jones, Andy McDonald, Jim Walker Mastering - Bear, Bob McCloud Photography - Andy Leonard, Mary Ann Mayer, Cadillac Ron Grateful Dead logo - Robert D. Thomas Lettering - Rick Griffin Art Coordination - Mary Ann Mayer Record Live: October 16-20, 1974 at Winterland, San Francisco, CA Notes One of the most criticised Dead albums. Both song selection and sound quality of the original release failed to impress a large number of heads, by some it was given the alternative title 'Steal Your Money'. The theory behind the song selection has been explained as a desire to present an album of songs rather than jams and the need to avoid songs that had already appeared on live albums. Various excuses have been given over the years for the original sound quality. In an interview Garcia said; None of us liked it. I'm sure even Phil and Owsley didn't like it that much ... I think part of it was that we were not working, and we didn't have anything else to deliver. The sound quality is greatly improved on the CD reissue. The songs on Steal Your Face are thought to come from the following shows; Casey Jones - October 17, 1974 Ship Of Fools, Beat It On Down The Line, Big River and Sugaree - October 18, 1974 Mississippi Half Step, Black Throated Wind, U.S. Blues and El Paso - October 19, 1974 Promised Land, Cold Rain And Snow, Around And Around, Stella Blue and It Must Have Been The Roses - October 20, 1974 Reissues

For Dos...

...Not the Shrine Auditorium but the Shrine Exposition Hall which was adjacent to the Auditorium...had many a wonderful evening there...

snafu and the Constitution

You are right-maybe I should read it! I am sorry that my post looked as though I was dismissing it as a document. It was just such an unexpected thing to come across on here. I am not keen on reading at much depth online, so if I did read it, it would probably be in book form.

Steal Your Face (3)

It's not my favorite album, but I don't hate it. I have the original 76 vinyl LP, the 89 CD that sounds greatly improved, and now the 2017 180g vinyl LP reissue that really sounds excellent. I thought is was very good in 1976, it wasn't a real GD show but a collection of songs recorded live. SYF doesn't stand up to Europe '72, Skullfuck, or Live/Dead, in my opinion.

Steal Your Face (3)

JA Bark

Third Week in the Chelsea is definitely a highlight of that album, but I think Pretty As You Feel has to be my absolute favorite Jefferson Airplane song. Feel So Good and Wild Turkey from Bark are pretty good too, but something about Pretty As You Feel just clicks in my brain in a really pleasant way.

10 years on this dead.net

It's been 10 years since I registered with this version of dead.net.Back then, it seemed fun and for the most part it still is! Sometime, probably during Dave's Picks 11 or 12 discussion/comments pages, I had noticed folks talking back to each other via these posts. This is community, in my opinion. And for the most part it is beautiful. Only a few times here and there, things get ugly with "taboo" topics of politics, religion, and some other stuff. Recently we were *invaded* by troll or trolls, and hopefully our wunnerful moderator marye and management got rid of these boring and harmful trolls. But what ever happened to DeadNetCentral? (DNC) Is this still active? I never was a part of DNC, it seemed too constrained for me, as I was a part of rec.music.gdead for many years, until it was invaded trolls and the rise of Facebook to the general public and other stuff scattered folks to other, newer, more modern social media. However r.m.g.d. still exists, but is nowhere is it like it was only a few years ago. #

JA Bark

mmmm, yes Charlie3 those tune titles sound familiar. "3rd week in Chelsea" was just the one that came first to mind. It might be time for a good re-listen to "Bark" for old times sake.

JA Bark

The first couple tracks on Bark - When the Earth Moves Again & Feel So Good - are great on the live album Thirty Seconds Over Winterland. I think Bark is kind of like a Dead studio album. It doesn't have the classic sound of Surrealistic Pillow, or rise to the level of the later Kantner/Slick project Blows Against the Empire, but the songs from that period translate well live. If the only Stella Blue you ever heard was the Wake of the Flood version, you'd probably think it was kind of boring.

subscription always had its benefits

and this is one of the best. This bonus CD was distributed with Road Trips, Vol. 4, No. 3 to subscribers to the Road Trips series. The bonus disc has music from the December 6, 1973 show in Cleveland. • Greatest Story Ever Told • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Dark Star • Eyes Of The World

Born X-Eyed

It's funny you mentioned Pinball Wizard. When I was watching Moon videos yesterday, I also found this one. It's the isolated drum track of the studio version of Pinball Wizard. The second one is Won't Get Fooled Again. That's awesome you got to see the real Who. LedDed. I threw in a little Zep for you. It sounds close to the album take, but it's missing my favorite fill, so it's got to be an outtake. Pinball Wizard https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tL7uVSRnOms Won't Get Fooled Again https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NJH8DmPfVmU Fool In The Rain https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RddCksr-XhY

Dude, that's fucking awesome...

The only drummer I compare to John Henry Bonham is Charlie Watts, due to feel. They are the engine that drives their band. Ginger Baker, Neil Peart, Phil Rudd (for the pocket backbeat). Get well soon. \m/

Quality of Dave´s Picks Series

I´m disapointet about the quality in Dave´s Picks Series. The song material is good but the quality of sound is partly bad. I think some songs are patched with audience recordings (i.e. in Daves vol. 20 and 27). And thats not what we are usesd to hear on dead.net music (and I pay for it)! I have nearly all volumes of the Dick´s Picks series and they are okay. I suggest they should release only one or two volumes of Daves series per year and select only concerts in good quality! Otherwise I can hear the songs on archive.org.

Subscriptions-Kayak Guy

Point proved, I think. I never even knew there were bonus discs with Road Trips. The bonus disc for Vol. 4 No.3 actually looks better than the main three discs-which, coincidentally, I am half way through listening to.

Great drummers

On the subject of great drummers, Ian Paice with Deep Purple was and indeed still is, amazing. His introduction to "Fireball", immediately following the whooshing sound of that backwardly recorded fan, is one of the best things in life. Or at least heavy rock. All of "Made in Japan", as has been said on here before, is incendiary.

Road Trips bonus discs

There were bonus discs issued with the Road Trips series, starting with Vol. 1, No. 1 (late 2007) up until Vol. 3, No. 3 (mid 2010) so there were 11 bonus discs. After that it was announced that there would be one bonus disc per year (like the current Dave's Picks bonus discs). The 2011 bonus disc came with Road Trips Vol. 4, No. 3 but as the series finished with Vol. 4, No. 5 at the end of 2011 there were no more Road Trips bonus discs.

Ian Paice

Paicey is outstanding, underrated, not often discussed in the same breath as the greats. His drums sound amazing. He gets in the rock drumming hall of fame for the beginning of "Woman From Tokyo," alone. And he hits that again in the middle of "Knocking At Your Back Door." Goosebumps the first time I heard that and I still love it. I'm seeing Purple/Priest next month. I would imagine Purple will open, because who could follow Priest? But in my heart of hearts Deep Purple ranks above Judas Priest in the entirety of their classic catalogue. \m/

Judas Priest

First live band I ever saw, 7 years old. They opened for KISS in'79 at the Spectrum. I was so confused because I had no concept of an opening band, these dudes didn't have make up or any songs I recognized, and it was too damn loud to ask any questions....

To KeithFan2112

Thanks for posting Moonie's Pin Ball Wizard isolated drum track & the isolated drum for Won't Get Fooled Again. Amazing!

John Bonham

Excellent!

simonrob on bonus disks

not that i doubted you, but it got me thinking of all the GD bonus disks over the years and i came up with this list of the ones i have. some pretty important recordings hidden on these CDs. Beyond Description Bonus CD 2004 A bonus disc that was included with copies of Beyond Description that were pre-ordered from the Grateful Dead Store. The tracks are from the following sources; • Weather Report Suite (live 10/17/74) • Blues For Allah > Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey > Drums > Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey > Blues For Allah (live 3/23/75) • Showboat (8/12/75 rehearsal) • Shakedown Street (live 8/13/79) • Far From Me (live 8/31/80) • Estimated Prophet (live 10/10/80) Rockin' The Rhein bonus CD: Academy Of Music 2004 A bonus CD that was distributed by Grateful Dead Records with with pre-ordered copies of the Rockin' The Rhein release. The material from the bonus CD was recorded live at the Academy of Music shows in March, 1972 The tracks are from the following shows; • Playing In The Band - March 22, 1972 • Sugar Magnolia - March 22, 1972 • Caution - March 22, 1972 • Jam - March 22, 1972 • Uncle John's Band - March 22, 1972 • Dark Star - March 23, 1972 Fillmore West 1969 Bonus Disc: 2005 A bonus CD that was distributed with pre-ordered copies of the 10 CD complete Fillmore West 1969 recordings box set and the 3 CD compilation of music from the Fillmore West 1969 shows. The music on the bonus CD is previously unreleased live recordings from shows at the Carousel Ballroom/Fillmore West between 1968 and 1970. • Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) - June 14, 1968 (late show) • He Was A Friend Of Mine - June 8, 1969 • China Cat Sunflower - June 8, 1969 • New Potato Caboose - June 8, 1969 • China Cat Sunflower - February 7, 1970 • I Know You Rider - February 7, 1970 • High Time - February 7, 1970 Spirit of '76 2006 A bonus CD of live music from 1976. This CD was distributed with copies of the Live At Cow Palace: New Years Eve 1976 release pre-ordered from the online Grateful Dead store. The tracks on this bonus CD are from the following Grateful Dead shows; • The Music Never Stopped and Crazy Fingers - June 9, 1976, Boston • Let It Grow > Might As Well - October 2, 1976, Cincinnati • Playing In The Band > Supplication > Playing In The Band - September 24, 1976, Williamsburg • Scarlet Begonias - September 30, 1976, Columbus Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 1: Fall 1979 2007 A two CD release of live music from the Grateful Dead tour in the Fall of 1979. A third bonus CD was included with early copies of this release. This is the first in a proposed series of Road Trips releases which will concentrate on specific tours or series of shows. The tracks on the bonus CD are from the following shows • China Cat Sunflower - Oct 31, 1979, Uniondale, NY • I Know You Rider - Oct 31, 1979, Uniondale, NY • Althea - Oct 31, 1979, Uniondale, NY • Lost Sailor - Nov 8, 1979, Landover, MD • Saint Of Circumstance - Nov 8, 1979, Landover, MD • Jam (1) - Nov 8, 1979, Landover, MD • Estimated Prophet - Nov 9, 1979, Buffalo, NY • He's Gone - Nov 9, 1979, Buffalo, NY • Jam (2) - Nov 9, 1979, Buffalo, NY A bonus download track was made available to anyone pre-ordering Road Trips Vol 1 Number 1; A single song download offered as a thank you to anyone who pre-ordered Road Trips Vol. 1 Number 1. The bonus song was from the Spectrum, Philadelphia show on November 6, 1979. • Jack-A-Roe (Traditional) Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 2: October 1977 2008 The tracks on the bonus CD are from the following shows; • Scarlet Begonias - Oct 16, 1977, Baton Rouge, LA • Fire On the Mountain - Oct 16, 1977, Baton Rouge, LA • Estimated Prophet - Oct 16, 1977, Baton Rouge, LA • Loser - Oct 14, 1977, Houston, TX • Sunrise - Oct 11, 1977, Norman, OK • Iko Iko - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM • The Wheel - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM • Wharf Rat - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM • Sugar Magnolia - Oct 7, 1977, Albuquerque, NM Winterland 1973: The Complete Recordings 2008 A bonus CD of music from the Cincinnati Gardens show of December 4, 1973 was included with early copies of the box set. • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Truckin' • Stella Blue • Eyes Of The World • Space • Sugar Magnolia • Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad • Casey Jones Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 3: Summer 1971 2008 A third bonus CD, with music from the shows on July 31, August 4 and August 6, 1971, was included with early copies of this release. • Bertha - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Mr. Charlie - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Cumberland Blues - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Brokedown Palace - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Hard To Handle - August 6, 1971, Hollywood • Sing Me Back Home - July 31, 1971, New Haven • Big Boss Man - July 31, 1971, New Haven • Not Fade Away> - August 4, 1971, San Pedro • Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad - August 4, 1971, San Pedro • Turn On Your Lovelight - August 4, 1971, San Pedro Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 4: Winterland “From Egypt With Love". 1978 2008 A third bonus CD, with music from the shows on October 17 and 21, 1978, was included with early copies of this release. • Bertha - October 21, 1978, Winterland • Good Lovin - October 21, 1978, Winterland • Estimated Prophet - October 21, 1978, Winterland • He's Gone - October 21, 1978, Winterland • If I Had The World To Give - October 17, 1978, Winterland • Around and Around - October 17, 1978, Winterland Rocking The Cradle: Egypt 1978 Sept 2008 A bonus CD of additional music from the Egypt shows was distributed with pre-ordered copies of Rocking The Cradle. • Bertha - September 16, 1978 • Good Lovin' - September 16, 1978 • El Paso - September 16, 1978 • Ramble On Rose - September 16, 1978 • Estimated Prophet - September 15, 1978 • Eyes Of The World - September 15, 1978 • Terrapin Station - September 15, 1978 • Sugar Magnolia - September 15, 1978 Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 1: Madison Square Garden: September 1990 2008 A third bonus CD, with more music from the same run of shows, was included with early copies of this release. • Mississippi Half Step - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Picasso Moon - MSG, September 18, 1990 • To Lay Me Down - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Eyes of The World - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Estimated Prophet - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Foolish Heart - MSG, September 18, 1990 • Jam - MSG, September 18, 1990 Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 2: February 14, 1968, Carousel Ballroom 2009 A third bonus CD, with music from Grateful Dead shows in January 1968, was included with early copies of this release. • Viola Lee Blues - 1/23/68, Seattle • Good Morning Little Schoolgirl - 1/20/68, Eureka • New Potato Caboose - 1/30/68, Eugene • Dark Star> - 1/23/68, Seattle • China Cat Sunflower> - 1/23/68, Seattle • The Eleven - 1/23/68, Seattle • Turn On Your Lovelight - 1/23/68, Seattle Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 3: June 1974: Wall of Sound 2009 A third bonus CD, with additional music from the same shows, was included with early copies of this release. • Morning Dew - June 18, 1974 • Around and Around - June 18, 1974 • Deal - June 16, 1974 • Greatest Story Ever Told - June 16, 1974 • Truckin'> - June 16, 1974 • Nobody's Jam> - June 16, 1974 • Wharf Rat - June 16, 1974 • GDTRFB - June 16, 1974 • Sugar Magnolia - June 18, 1974 Road Trips Vol. 2, No. 4: Cal Expo 1993 2009 A third bonus CD, with additional music from the same shows, was included with early copies of this release. • Picasso Moon> - May 27, 1993 • Fire On The Mountain - May 27, 1993 • Cassidy> - May 27, 1993 • Uncle John's Band> - May 27, 1993 • Cassidy - May 27, 1993 • Gloria - May 27, 1993 • Broken Arrow - May 26, 1993 • Ramble On Rose - May 26, 1993 • Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again- May 26, 1993 Winterland June 1977: The Complete Recordings 2009 A bonus CD of music from the Chicago show of May 12, 1977 was included with early copies of the box set. • Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo> • Dancing In The Street • Terrapin Station> • Playing In The Band> • Drums> • Not Fade Away> • Comes A Time> • Playing In The Band Road Trips: Vol 3, Number 1: Oakland, December 28, 1979 2009 A third bonus CD, with music from the December 30, 1979 show, was included with early copies of this release. • New Minglewood Blues • Candyman • Ramble On Rose • Lazy Lightning > • Supplication • Scarlet Begonias > • Fire On The Mountain > • Let It Grow • Truckin' > • Wharf Rat Road Trips: Vol 3, Number 2: Austin, November 15, 1971 2010 A third bonus CD, with music from the November 14, 1971 show in Fort Worth, was included with early copies of this release. • China Cat Sunflower> • I Know You Rider • Sugaree • Truckin' > • Drums > • The Other One > • Me And My Uncle > • The Other One > • Wharf Rat > • Sugar Magnolia Road Trips: Vol 3, Number 3: Fillmore East, 5/15/70 2010 A fourth bonus CD, with more music from 5/15/70 and from the 5/14/70 show at Meramec College, was included with early copies of this release. • Friend Of The Devil • Candyman • Cumberland Blues • Cold Jordan • Easy Wind • Attics Of My Life • Beat It On Down The Line • Next Time You See Me * from 5/14/70, Meramec Community College, Kirkwood • New Speedway Boogie > * • Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam > * • New Speedway Boogie * • St. Stephen * • Not Fade Away * • Turn On Your Lovelight * Road Trips: 2011 2011 This bonus CD was distributed with Road Trips, Vol. 4, No. 3 to subscribers to the Road Trips series from the December 6, 1973 show in Cleveland. • Greatest Story Ever Told • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Dark Star • Eyes Of The World Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2012 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2012 releases in the Dave's Picks series. Music from the July 29, 1974 show at the Capital Centre, Landover. • Sugaree • Weather Report Suite: Prelude Part 1 Let It Grow • He's Gone • Truckin' • Nobody's Fault but Mine • The Other One • Spanish Jam • Wharf Rat Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2013 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2013 releases in the Dave's Picks series. Music from the December 21, 1969 show at the Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco. • Smokestack Lightning • New Speedway Boogie • Dire Wolf • Mason’s Children • China Cat Sunflower • I Know You Rider • Black Peter • Good Lovin' • Drums • The Other One • Cumberland Blues Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2014 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2014 releases in the Dave's Picks series. This bonus disc was shipped with Dave's Picks Volume 10. It comprises music from the December 11, 1969 show at the Thelma, Los Angeles. • Dark Star • Saint Stephen • The Eleven • Cumberland Blues • That's It for the Other One Cryptical Envelopment Drums The Other One Cryptical Envelopment • Cosmic Charlie Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2015 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2015 releases in the Dave's Picks series. This bonus disc was shipped with Dave's Picks Volume 14. It comprises music from the March 21 and March 27, 1972 shows at the Academy Of Music in New York. March 27, 1972: • Bertha • Brown-Eyed Women • China Cat Sunflower > • I Know You Rider • Cumberland Blues March 21, 1972: • Truckin' > • Drums > • The Other One > • Wharf Rat Dave's Picks Bonus CD 2016 A bonus CD distributed to subscribers of the 2016 releases in the Dave's Picks series. This bonus disc was shipped with Dave's Picks Volume 18. It comprises music from the July 16, 1976 show at the Orpheum Theatre, San Francisco. • Playing in the Band > • Cosmic Charlie • Spanish Jam > • Drums > • The Wheel > • Playing in the Band • High Time • Sugar Magnolia Dave's Picks 2017 bonus disc December 6, 1971 additional tracks: "Truckin'" – 9:57 "Loser" – 7:31 "Mr. Charlie" (McKernan, Hunter) – 4:23 "Jack Straw" – 5:14 "China Cat Sunflower" – 4:56 "I Know You Rider" – 5:04 "Tennessee Jed" – 7:25 "Mexicali Blues" – 3:46 "Black Peter" – 9:38 "Casey Jones" – 6:01 Dave's Picks 2018 bonus disc December 14, 1971 Hill Auditorium selections: "Jack Straw" – 5:07 "Tennessee Jed" – 7:23 "Black Peter" – 9:07 "Playing in the Band" – 7:03 "Casey Jones" – 6:13 "Mexicali Blues" – 3:34 "Cryptical Envelopment" > – 1:55 "Drums" > – 3:38 "The Other One" > – 18:32 "Wharf Rat" – 9:07 "Sugar Magnolia" – 7:20

More bonus discs...

There are 2 more bonus discs that were released with DVDs, not CDs. I have one but not the other. I am not at home right now so I am not in a position to find what they are. More info later...

Winterland NYE’s Bonus Disc

Think it came with the Closing of Winterland DVD. I didn’t subscribe to Road Trips because I only wanted complete, or nearly complete, releases. I bought those full show releases. I eventually bought WOS 74 and 10-21,22-78. Looks like I should have preordered those since the bonus discs included more of the shows.

Right

Closing of Winterland and Rockin' the Rhein bonus discs. What about the Searching for the Sound bonus discs.. I think I have them. Are they mostly interviews with some music might I perhaps not have them? ahh.. finally a long post worth reading. Bonus Discs. I finally got through enough listens of Dave's Picks 27 to comment. First.. 1983. A transitional year, especially for Jerry. He had begun his weight gain, the changes in his voice were especially noticeable and it seemed the band was migrating towards shows and moments with a harder edge. Next.. the recordings were different and not for the better. To my ears, '83 might just be the year where the least care was given to soundboard recordings. They were recorded on cassette masters for one. Also, Healy seemed to be experimenting with his Ultra Matrix mixes where he was pumping varying amounts of the audience mic into the mix. This seemed especially true for the outdoor shows that year. Some (many) sound like audience recordings while some of the indoor shows (Morgantown WV comes to mind) have much less of the audience boom mixed in and sound more like traditional soundboards. I think that's why the three official releases from that year were from indoor venues (DiP 6, Hartford 10/14/83, 30 Trips Worcester 10/21/83 and DaP 27 Boise 9/2/83), but this is pure speculation on my part, I wonder what others think. Of the three released thus far, I think Boise sounds the best. I saw the band several times in 1983, I think this sounds more like it sounded being there, the exception being the drums (hollow sounding, not full and vibrant) and the obvious muffled sound that generally comes with these cassette masters. Still.. I believe they made this sound as good it can all things considered. I believe the quality of the recordings, for the most part, improved by '84 and '85. I thought this show had it's moments, the high point to me was the jam in Slipknot! ..but each disc has it's moments and personality. This is pretty typical 1983. Is it the best in the series? Not to me, but I bet there is someone out there that might say yes. It does scratch an itch though and fills a void. To me, this release is stronger than the other two '83 shows released thus far both in sound and performance. Back to the 80's briefly. I find myself listening to more from 68 to 74 than the other years. Still.. at least or twice a year I go on extended tangents into the great beyond that are very satisfying for a host of reasons. Sometimes the diversity and difference in style and the occasional bombastic crescendo moves me. Recovering from an illness I took my first road bike ride in over a month Friday and I hit Augusta 84 and Riverbend 85 for some extra juice. It did the trick, I made it up the mountain and even peddled on for a few extra miles (you have to keep going through the end of the jamming). Believe it if you need it, we should not be surprised Dave picked this show and slid it into the 3rd slot. Even if I don't reach for it every third time you road trip (E72 anyone) it is a decent representation of what the band sounded like in '83.

GarciaLive Vol. 10

This disc 1 seems to be stuck in my player. Damn thing has been on autoplay for the past couple of weeks straight. Healthy, happy, Hawaii Jerry playing with such inspiration. Such an amazing show, full of beauty and emotion. Right in the feels, man. Get you some. Now!

Bonus discs with DVDs...

There was a bonus CD "New Year's Eve at Winterland" that came with the 2DVD set "The closing of Winterland" for customers who purchased the DVD (but not the 4CD set) from Grateful Dead Merchandising. The CD comprised; Easy Wind (12/31/70) Jam> (12/31/71) Black Peter (12/31/71) Playing in the Band (12/31/72) Lazy Lightning> (12/31/77) Supplication (12/31/77) Sugar Magnolia> (12/31/77) Scarlet Begonias> (12/31/77) Fire on the Mountain (12/31/77) There was a bonus CD "Dead Ahead Bonus songs" that was distributed with pre-ordered copies of the 2005 (expanded) DVD release of "Dead Ahead". The 5 tracks on the CD are the 5 bonus tracks that were included on the expanded DVD. The CD comprised; Heaven Help The Fool Shakedown Street Samson and Delilah He's Gone Truckin' all from the 10/30/80 show. I think these two bonus discs together with Kayak Guy's list (see below) covers all the bonus discs. If we have missed any then post it!

Bonus disks

there is also a 2 song bonus CD that came with Postcards from the Hanging. a bonus DVD that came with the Grateful Dead Deluxe Scrapbook.... and not to forget all those bonus tracks on the Golden Road Box era CDs that are not being rereleased on the new 50th Anniversary editions. http://deaddisc.com/index.html a great cut and paste resource for people that like to make lists of stuff to look for on ebay ;)

All I know....

....is if I owned all those bonus discs, I could buy a new car.

It Has Been Said

Bonus discs will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no bonus discs. I think this must also apply to new cars.

All The Years Combine

All The Years Combine: The DVD CollectionGrateful Dead Initial release : April 2012 Shout Factory! A 14 DVD box set that brings together 12 previously released DVDs/videos. One of the DVDs includes previously unreleased footage of six songs from the 1987 to 1991 period and an interview with David Lemieux. The previously released items included in the set are; The Grateful Dead Movie - the 2 DVD expanded and remastered version The Closing of Winterland - Winterland Ballroom, San Francisco, CA, December 31, 1978 Dead Ahead - Radio City Music Hall, New York, NY, October 1980 So Far - music and animation including live and rehearsals footage (first DVD release) Backstage Pass - a six song, 35 minute collage of music from different periods Ticket To New Years - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA, December 31, 1987 Downhill From Here - Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI, July 17, 1989 Truckin' Up To Buffalo - Rich Stadium, Orchard Park, NY, on July 4, 1989 View From The Vault - Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh, PA on July 8, 1990 View From The Vault II - RFK Stadium on June 14, 1991 plus July 12, 1990 View From The Vault III - Shoreline on June 16, 1990 and October 3, 1987 View From The Vault IV - Oakland Stadium, July 24, 1987, and Anaheim Stadium, July 26, 1987 The previously unreleased songs are: China Cat Sunflower - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View I Know You Rider - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Man Smart, Woman Smarter - October 2, 1987, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View Friend Of The Devil - July 2, 1989, Sullivan Stadium, Foxboro Hey Pocky Way - July 22, 1990, The World Amphitheatre, Tinley Park Shakedown Street - June 22, 1991, Soldier Field, Chicago

Bonus Discs

Speaking of bonus discs, I was fortunate to have been able to get most of them when I ordered early. The Road Trip series has so many as you all know, which when I ordered from Dead.net I did get the bonus discs. Unfortunately I passed on some RT releases and trying to get these releases I missed now with the bonus discs is pricey. Real Gone Music's reissues are likely not going to contain the bonus discs. I could be wrong but the 11/21/73 show originally came with the bonus disc of 12/6/73 with that monster Dark Star. The Real Gone reissue did not have this. It may have been because that would have made it a 4 disc set so they opted out. That may not be right, but I am holding out hope that the 2 disc releases will actually be reissued with the bonus from Real Gone. There are a few I got to have. That 12/6/73 bonus disc comes to mind because it generally goes for about $150 (at the lowest) just by itself. Since Real Gone is reissuing the last RTs first, I will have to wait and see. They are on the 69 Big Rock Pow Wow shows. Then it is Penn State/ Cornell 1980. Since these are both three discs without bonuses I guess I wont really know until they get to the first 2 disc reissue in this sequence (I cant recall what that one is). Another bonus disc that is highly priced is the Beyond Description disc. I have seen that at $250. Yet the Closing of Winterland disc usually sells at $50-$75. Sometimes the Academy of Music bonus disc that came DaP 14 can be snagged in this same price range. I dont think that disc is as good as the one from Rockin the Rhein which I do have fortunately.

And one more thing about bonus discs...

So I really do like RT series which initially I was overly critical of it back when it started. I was wrong as there are some great shows/music contained in those releases. But hey of course it would be, right? Still I have to say though that the bonus discs are kind of essential to many of the 2 disc releases, at least for me. For example, the bonus disc from each of the first 2 RT releases contains tracks that when combined with the other discs complete sets from 2 shows. The Oct 1977 release with the bonus disc gives the entire 2nd set sans encore of 10/16/77. The Fall of 79 release with bonus disc gives the entire 2nd set sans encore of 11/9/79. In weird bit of sychronisity, both of these shows encores were U.S. Blues. Neat.

Is this a bonus disc?

Speaking of bonus discs...I have a disc that I keep with the Fallout From The Phil Zone CD, it's an interview with Phil Lesh. 30 minutes in duration, very little music all from the CD. I think I got it when I bought the Phil Zone from dead.net, but I'm not sure. ASCD-3392 The artwork on the cardboard sleeve is similar to the Phil Zone 2CD but has INTERVIEW in white lettering in the front. Do you have this one, too?

Bonus discs-Road Trips

Interesting looking at those lists of bonus discs. Having said I didn't realise that the Road Trips series had bonus discs, I have had a look at my collection, and....I've actually got most of them. For me, Gratefulhans comment is very true-these discs are so essential to the main release, and looked so similar in their brown cardboard sleeve, that I hadn't actually seen them as bonus discs at all-just a third or fourth disc. I agree also-there is some fantastic music on these releases. The worst thing was the covers. So tightly packed I sometimes needed a knife to cut them out-and then I never returned them-which could be another reason I missed the fact that some are bonus discs-mine are all now in anonymous clear Perspex cases. Thinking of shows that are presented in cut up form-Dicks Picks 31, 4th and 5th and 6th August 1974, is a bit of a chore to get your head round. The music-amazing-but what song comes form what show isn't always that easy to work out. Not for me, anyway!

Is this a bonus disc?

that is a promotional disk, i guess because it has no music, just interview. Fallout From The Phil Zone Interview Disc 1997 Arista ASCD-3392 Promotional disc released to coincide with the release of Fallout From The Phil Zone.

Happy Veneta Anniversary!

Sunshine Daydream - Absolutely one of the finest releases. Perhaps my favorite Playin' in the Band... Can't be sure, but it is surely up there near the top! Shout out to Pole-guy! We all know what you were doing 46 years ago today! Rock on, Pole-guy! Peace

Bonus and Promo discs

I agree Fallout From the Phil Zone interview is a promotional disc, it's a very cool one !! One more not sure if it's promo or bonus, I would guess bonus. I believe this 2-CD set came with the Golden Road Box set. Titled "Grateful Dead Documentary" interviews from 1968. Almost positive it was released with this massive studio album box set. I never did get the Beyond Description box set, although person I know who has since passed, they had it and enjoyed the heck out of it, and we listened together

Happy Veneta Day, indeed!

:)))

"I'm Pole-guy!"

"I'm Pole-guy!""I'm Pole-guy!" so, the DEA placed 6000 hippies atop poles along the Appian Way, making them listen to the Carpenters for three straight days.

"Grateful Dead Documentary" interviews from 1968

interesting, though i think it is a promo disk as there is no unreleased material. AllMusic Review by Lindsay Planer This limited-edition two-disc set was available as a promotional premium in conjunction with the sale of the Golden Road (1965-1973) box set. The offer was extended exclusively through the Grateful Dead's online and mail-order merchandising organization. The days of free-form or underground FM radio are revisited during this two-hour music and interview Grateful Dead Documentary, which originally aired June 8, 1969, on San Francisco's KSAN-FM. The program is co-hosted by Michael Wanger and Vance Frost, who began producing a weekly series of radio documentaries for Stanford University's KZSU-FM in 1968. With the guidance and support of KSAN-FM's program director -- the legendary Tom Donahue -- Wanger and Frost began the six-month process involved in producing this brilliantly executed time capsule of the Grateful Dead's history up through the end of 1968. Not only did the entire band (sans Ronald "Pigpen" McKernan) contribute by revealing an artistic sensitivity rarely captured in their print interviews, they are also open to discussing their immediate artistic concerns regarding their music, their record company, and most tellingly, each other as musicians. The mutual admiration extends into their immediate circle of psychedelic Bay Area contemporaries as well. Interviewees include John Cipollina and David Freiberg from the Quicksilver Messenger Service, as well as Paul Kantner and Spencer Dryden from Jefferson Airplane. Their appreciation is perhaps the most profound, providing unique observations of what appeals to them about the Grateful Dead not only as performers, but most importantly as constituents and friends. Due to the vintage nature of this documentary, vinyl sources were originally all that was available for use. Normally, surface noise and the revealed limitations of the medium on CD would diminish the listening experience. This is the rare exception as the superior mixes used on those initial pressings have yet to be replicated in the digital domain. Notable among these is "The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)" and the brilliant 45 mix of "Dark Star." Also listen for a special hidden bonus performance.

Documentary, "Veneta.. Where Are They Now"

We travelled to _______________ and ran into Pole Guy outside his families _____________.

Hi Kayak Guy , your profile photo was waving at me :)

it caught my eye there is a hidden track, "Doin' that Rag" i am unsure if this has been previously released or has since , not even sure of the performance date

Pole Guy

MDJim's post is obviously an invitation for some Mad Libs. 1) The Oregon State Hospital for the Hilariously Insane 2) compost heap

What's Smelling:)

http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19690228.html https://archive.org/details/gd1969-02-28.132672.sbd.multi.track.healy-l…

Pole Guy

We travelled to Veneta Oregon to confirm reports of an old man dancing naked on the sidewalk and ran into Pole Guy outside his families tanning salon. He was holding one of those big arrow signs while dancing to the Grateful Dead through his bluetooth headphones.

Mad libs....

....we traveled to Mars, and ran into Pole Guys families potato farm. If you poop, it will grow. And Pole Guy was definitely on Mars on this day, 46 years ago. It's also my Mom's birthday. Happy Birthday Madre!!

dark star and boise

I was listening to the dark star from Veneta yesterday, is this the best one you have ever heard? I also listened to Dick's 36 that has another fantastic dark star offering, I can't decide which is the better, they are both fantastic. To me, this is the song, especially the 1972 versions, (see Europe 72 the complete recordings, for more) that exemplifies the Grateful Dead. I have heard a lot of them, they are all unique and it's hard to get to the best of, but I think these 2 are a tossup as to which is #1. I just can't say which is "better". Anybody got anymore that they think is "the best"? I was also rereading Phil's book and he speaks about this Boise show, not so much the show itself, but the journey to get to Boise. This was the first time he and his new bride, Jill, drove to a show, which then became a common place thing for them. He spoke more about the beautiful vistas and the people then he did about the show. He did remember that there weren't a lot of heads there. Just the usual suspects and a handful or so of local curiosity seekers. During these travels, Phil first realized that there were people following the band around, as they would see the same faces along the road. They would pull up next to them and he would make goofy faces and wave to them. Mostly the looks he got back were that of astonishment, then song requests. That would have been a trip, driving to a dead show and seeing Phil driving along side of you, waving and grinning.

Dark Star

besides the usual answer of "the best one is the one i haven't heard yet".i have to go with Live Dead as it was my first Dark Star and all others are inevitably compared with that one. the years of intimate knowledge, the "special situations" that evoked the need for THAT Dark Star. it still raises the hair on the back of my neck when i hear the last notes of Mountains of the Moon i always thought of as the first notes of Dark Star as it begins. 2/13/70 is a perfect 30 minute Dark Star that sums up the prior years experiments that would be a close 2nd with that 30 minute Other One chaser that finally became revealed on Dick's Picks 4.

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