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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • marye
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    Tim and others with disc issues
    if you're still having trouble, send me a PM and I'll pass it to the Doc.
  • TimP
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    I too have had 2 issues with…

    I too have had 2 issues with this box set. 1 - my booklet had been bent during packing and I have 1 defective disc Disc 17 (disc 1 of 5/21/73 Seatle. Big scuff mark and skips on track 9 and fails to pick up on track 10 /11 / 12 after skipping.)

    Got the standard response from Rhino - filled in the forms and nothing back from them yet. Both complaints now over 30 day s outstanding - any advice on how to proceed.

    BTW -- a lot of fantastic music on this set -- but also a lot of recordng issues -- most of which have been already mentioned. This too is making me question whether to buy complete boxes in future ??

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    My big beautiful insane Pacific Northwest box arrived on Thursday afternoon, September 13. I opened it up, examined it for damage or weirdness. I found lots of weirdness, but no damage at all. It was (and is) perfect, but I was busy so I put it away on my living room bookshelf. Yesterday, November 4, I took the box into my office and started ripping and listening to the CDs. This is astonishingly beautiful music. The playing is intense, inspired, and precise, and the clarity and detail of the recordings (as rendered here) are breathtaking. There are some flaws scattered about – dropouts and balance issues – but for me these flaws do not detract at all from the immensity of the greatness of this box of beauty. These are among the greatest Grateful Dead recordings I’ve ever heard (and I have 288 hours of Grateful Dead recordings ripped so far). So thank you for this fantastic effort. A lot of work and care went into this, obviously. Similar to some of the Mosaic boxes of classic jazz recordings, this one is for people who want to hear all of it, not just curated highlights.

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    MARYE - defective discs

    Hey I just saw your message in thread, I think I got it all sorted out with email to customer service. They replied with replacement disc on the way.

    I appreciate the speedy response and help.

    Time to rock out !!!

    Spinning some 1985 Grateful Dead

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    I see this too, but there is a silver lining.. I am seeing lots of new folks step up and post positive comments, reviews and keep the vibe alive. The yang is there too.. a bit of complaining and the blem CDs and manufacturing error rate provides more than a valid reason to complain. I would consider providing CDs that play a core competency.

    Still we get some good with the bad and new inputs and perspective is a good thing. I hope we didn't lose more than we gained.. there are a few I have not seen in a while that consistently added to the mix.

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    I would agree with the points below, but it may also be the fact that there are multiple recent release threads - e.g. this PNW box thread, the DaP 28 thread and the DaP 2019 Subscription threads. Who knows, hopefully it will pick up again.

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    I think Reijo has a point.

    Drifters, I see your point too. But I like that show and am still glad it got released. The China>Rider, WRS and Jam after Truckin' are very nice and I really like the young Peggy-O's which are somewhat special and rare. The fade is on the source recording so the choice is whether to release the show or not.. all the remastering in the world is not going to bring the vocals up in the mix.

    Dicks Picks used to place a caveat emptor on the back of the jewel case regarding sonic anomalies and the ravages of time, etc. The other point to make about some of these box sets is the tendency to make something very good and slip in a show that might not have made it as a Dave's Picks. Sort of slip one in on is. I don't think this is the case for this box, but 30 Trips had a couple of these. For $30 a show, and being a bit of a completist myself I am ok with it.. but I see the other side of things. I am sympathetic but happy to see these old tapes get special treatment. I appreciate the efforts they went through making this sound as good as it can.. but that's just me. One opinion.

    Love the latest Dave's Picks.. but a topic for another thread. Talk about exceeding expectations...

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    hate to complain but...

    They should really put these chats right under the product page the way it was previously. There are now less and less posts cause it's simply a headache to find these threads. I think the community is thinning out because of this. Steve Hoffman Forums is a great alternative community for GD superfans who want to chat up these releases or anything else.

  • Drifter's Escape
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    Mix issues

    I totally understand there may be sound issues with recording sources that are 30-50 years old. Recently we've had the heavy 'reverb' on the GSTL from '77, the splice in Dave's 27, Eyes of the World, which seemed to enrage so many, and now the various issues with PNW. Bill and Donna are high in the mix at times and some say Jerry is too low.
    My complaint is on disc 1 of Portland '74. From about halfway into Sugaree thru El Paso the vocals are practically inaudible. Like karaoke versions. Which admittedly is kinda fun in a weird sorta way. But c'mon.
    Maybe there should be a page or paragraph or Something in the already included literature by the producer/engineer where they could address and acknowledge some of the issues with a particular release.

    What's the old saying? "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining". And don't say nothing and pretend that everything is just exactlty perfect. By saying Nothing it only makes people wonder if it's only their disc/equipment/ears/delusion.

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    Perhaps I am behind in reading all these posts.. but the mix issues on my CDs seem to match up with the mix issues on the soundboards in the Archive. This means either the problems with the mix exist on the source master reels or all these sound engineers are hitting off the same crack pipe (which I guess is a possibility albeit a slim one). So remixing the entire box would likely yield the same result, but at great expense and causing much confusion for all.

    Just to make sure I was not seeing double (hey.. it happens), I took some time to compare the PNW box to my source soundboards that I pulled down from the archive long, long ago. The issues with the mix are consistent comparing one show to the next.

    Is this another poke to make sure we have maintained our sense of humor? ….remixing the entire box seems a bit silly perhaps, but not very much fun.

    Again, I could be missing something..

    One thing comparing my recordings to these did yield.. the PNW box sounds better than what I pulled down. Even the 73 shows sound quite good to me and my system with and without headphones.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Is anyone else having trouble with 5/21/74 Playing in the Band? The download cuts out at about 20 seconds in and returns with just a few seconds left on the track.
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Download took about an hour. 41.7gb zip file. All 166 FLAC files are in one directory fully tagged with an embedded art image. I separated each show into a separate directory because that's the way my streaming device works best. This sounds INCREDIBLE! These shows are going to get me through this coming New England winter. No additional artwork. Fine with me. It's all about the music.
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5/21/74 Playin' I downloaded seems fine. 46:58, and no problems (except for the yowling that is).
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Jim, same here. July 78 fits right alongside the 77 boxes. I'm also convinced that totem box will vault to bear the top.
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mine will be here Tuesday...had to go in to town today (a 90 mile drive)and I said screw it and shelled out $20 for the three CD Believe It If You Need It for the ride home...listened to the 2nd disc...my my...I'm even more anxious now for delivery...it's good to be DEAD....
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....physical buyers have to Deal with possibly scratched CD's or dislodged glue. Digital buyers have to Deal with download hiccups or digital snafus. The only time it was perfect was when one was in the crowd. I listened to the Spotify Box Of Rain on the way home tonight. Yeah. I peeked.
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I have the same problem scboss12. I got the Apple lossless and the 5/21/74 Playin cuts out at 38 seconds and the rest of the song is missing in action.
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Like others have noted above, age seems to have made what is usually a simple process, in this case placing an order, into a frustrating, futile exercise. I have been trying to order the Pacific Northwest box for more than three hours this evening. I am logged in (obviously) and I can place the item in my cart. The numeral 1 then appears just to the right of the shopping cart icon indicating that there is one item in the cart. However, when I try to checkout, I receive a message that my cart is empty. I can get back to my cart by a number of paths available on the store and/or my browser (Firefox 61.0.2) and the product is still in the cart. I have successfully ordered numerous items from the GD Store over the years - the last set purchased was the Betty Boards. Is this a site gremlin that others have found a work-around? Thanks to the kind people who have taken the time to read my post in the off chance you had encountered the same problem and discovered a solution. Note: when I previewed my post, my status was listed as "offline", although I am able to edit my post without having to provide my credentials by logging in again.
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Which shows do you have available? I have most but missed out on a few and would love to fill in a gap or two. Let me know.Thanks, Mike
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....may be part of the problem. I use chrome, and have had no issues.Don't get me wrong. I still use Firefox at times. But it has it's glitches.
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I'm old as well, and have spent way too much time in outer space. To order I used the Chrome browser and it worked with no glitches. Put in my CC and got a final page with three download links. One being some screen saver (pass), a one tune download (pass), and the full download. Click. No problems at all. Download took about an hour. I wasn't logged in when I placed my order, if that matters. That being said, this is just mind blowing. I've been sitting here for five hours listening. Rock, country, bluegrass, jazz, space, what is this place? All of those things but no category one could stuff this music into. It's the GD, in one of their many primes. At least to these old ears. Brings me joy so, who cares.
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I've been working with Chrome for the past two hours and the SSL (and/or TSL) won't engage, leaving the connection unprotected. I can open another tab on the same Chrome browser (I chose the Washington Post) and that connection is encrypted with the SSL protocol. I can't imagine an online store that relies on, and accepts, sensitive credit card information without the use of some form of encryption protecting its patrons. I did create a new user account on dead.net in addition to rebooting my laptop, etc., in the hope that one of these measures would resolve the issue. Oh well, the dead.net store opens in less than five hours. I'll wait until the folks have gotten their coffee at 7 AM and hope the box set hasn't sold out by the time I call. Thanks to all who have offered suggestions and encouragement. I am also grateful that I was able to see Dead & Co. twice in June. My daughter, who is nearing the age of 30, became a Deadhead as she listened to the many tapes I played as I ferried her home from preschool, summer camp, on family trips, etc. We met up at a show this summer that was midway between us, which was perfect since we each drove 250 miles - much better than one of us driving 500 miles, twice. Back to music!
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Same one as copperdomebodhi, I think, about when it will ship to those who haven't already had shipping confirmation. Goes like this: Dear Grateful Dead Fan, Release date is finally here! Thank you for your pre-order of the Pacific Northwest '73-'74 Boxed Set. We have been shipping out orders as quickly as possible and you should be receiving a shipping confirmation email by the end of the day Monday (if you haven't already.) If you live in the US, please reference your shipping confirmation email for tracking information on your shipment. For international orders, please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. If you have any questions, you may contact Dead@wmgcustomerservice.com. Best Regards, Dead.net Customer Service
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I received an email from dead.net this morning. The shipping of the box should be done "as quickly as possible". I am in France, and for international orders delivery will take 4 to 6 weeks. This is good since I leave the day after tomorrow for 4 weeks of vacation. Good listening to those who will soon be able to listen to these six shows!
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I’ve got the same issue with the 46:58 PITB.....gets to 38 seconds then nothing. Keeps playing and counting off time, but nothing is there. So far it’s the only issue but I’ve only listened to all 3 Eyes and a couple other PITB. Really disappointed as that 47 minute PITB was top of my list! I was not able to complete my purchase with Firefox. Kept giving me an empty cart on checkout. Used Safari and everything worked just exactly perfect. Download only took 17 minutes and I’ve got 166 songs of grateness for the weekend.....EXCEPT the 47 minute PITB I was SO looking forward to.....
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Checked my status and it now says "loaded on delivery vechicle"... I can not wait. Also, I don't remember delivery updates ever being so specific before. I half expect the next one to be "he's literally at your door", or "it's coming from inside your house". Ok I'm delirious. Hope everyone has a great time with this set!
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The vinyl sounds beautiful! I'd get immediately if you haven't already. Can't wait for the box set to show up. Sound quality is dynamic and rich...WOW!
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UPS just dropped it off! Really cool-looking, and I'm about to pop in disc 1. Someone below asked about the boxset's weight and measurements. I can't find my tape measure, but the CD version weighs 5.8 lbs. Also, the CDs are in digipaks, so I'm anticipating no glue or scratch issues.
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Holy shit this is going to be a good day. 982/15000
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I find it incredible that they’ve had my money for over two months yet here it is the day after release and they can’t be bothered to send a simple download link.
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I am uploading the PITB track to GDrive. I will send a link to anyone who has a problem with the track.
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Whoo Hoo. Waiting on mine, but glad to see people are beginning to get them. UPS on a Saturday? Not where I live... USPS, yes, but limited.
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Please send link. I also purchased digital download and had a problem with this track. Would have been nice if they offered the individual cover art for each of the shows too. Once someone gets around to scanning those would love the artwork. All and all Dave and Co did an amazing job with this set so excited to take it all in. Killer sound!
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I was just wondering if somebody had nice high resolution images of each individual CD cover. I remember somebody posted a link to the pictures they had taken from the Get Shown the Light box set individual CD covers. After I rip the CDs, and put them in my library, I really would like to have artwork for each CD cover that they came in. I am sort of obsessive of how things appear in my library, and would prefer to post the CD cover of each show rather than use the same generic picture posted at the top of this page. Appreciate any help, enjoy the box set, hope it comes soon for everybody! Really looking forward to getting into all these shows, had not heard any of them before.
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....Jesus H Christ with a ham sandwich. It goes to every corner of the universe and back again. There is The Grateful Dead, and then there is every other band ever know in existence. (no. I did't get mine, but listened on Spotify last night).
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Not posting the link here. Don't want to piss off Dead.net. Send me a message here with your email and I will do it that way. Also, it seems like the ALAC version is the one that's messed up. This one is FLAC. Will just require and conversion is all.
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Can you send me the link, too? It looks like my 5/21/74 PITB is blank after thirty-eight seconds. I'm glad I read through the comments here this morning or it might have been a week before I discovered it. Has anyone had problems with any other downloaded tracks? I'm almost finished with 6/22/73 and they are all fine.
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Send me a message here and I will email it to you. I recommend everyone test their files to make sure there are no other problems. Just do a checksum test and that will show any incomplete or truncated files.
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You're probably right. ..but you are doing them a big favor. A small snafu, but I bet frustrating to a few of you out there. They usually make good on this kind of stuff pretty quickly. I can translate flac to alac if no one else knows that trick. No temptation to listen on my end though, until the box pleasantly weights down my front porch. I'm fairly convinced the young VGuy found and knew what all his Christmas presents were by the Friday after Thanksgiving.
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1) delete your browsing history, then tell the browser to accept cookies2) put Box in cart and proceed to checkout When you get the ‘your cart is empty’’ message do one of the following: If there is still a ‘1’ next to the cart icon then click on the cart icon If there is a a ‘0’ or no number next to the cart icon, then click on the SYF icon in the upper left corner Clicking on the SYF icon is what I did last week to order the LST BluRay.
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It always takes a while for delivery to get out to my neck of the woods. This time is even worse. MaryE says I should have a shipping notice on Monday. I'll be out from Wednesday thru next Sunday (16th). If you can wait, I'll scan Roy Henry Vicker's amazing art, color correct and post a dropbox link to hi-res versions as soon as I can. All of you overseas head's stories make my extra week's wait seem like nothin'. Glad we're already hearing glowing reports on the music and the box. As someone posted months ago, the PNW box is based on the traditional bentwood chests of the First Nations of the Pacific Northwest Coast: https://www.donsmaps.com/bentwoodchests.html
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Our blessed Saint Dick said, "BTW, I don't place a whole lot of importance on the 46 min. version of 'Playing in the Band' that occurs on 5/21-Seattle." Maybe he also got the version that cuts off after 38 seconds.
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It's the longest version to be sure, but not the "best" one ever done. Maybe that's what Dick meant.
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It's obviously a bad file. In my library it's only 8Mb when it should be MUCH larger. I opened the zip archive I downloaded and it's only 8Mb in there as well....so there's a mistake. I'm sure they'll offer up a download of the fixed file as soon as they get back in the office. Fortunately, it's the only one....all the other are sizable and look to be complete. I opened the file in Audacity and it's empty from the 38 second mark to the end. Just alot of nothing to play. Okay guys....get us the fixed file!
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It's obviously a bad file. In my library it's only 8Mb when it should be MUCH larger. I opened the zip archive I downloaded and it's only 8Mb in there as well....so there's a mistake. I'm sure they'll offer up a download of the fixed file as soon as they get back in the office. Fortunately, it's the only one....all the other are sizable and look to be complete. I opened the file in Audacity and it's empty from the 38 second mark to the end. Just alot of nothing to play. Okay guys....get us the fixed file!
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It's obviously a bad file. In my library it's only 8Mb when it should be MUCH larger. I opened the zip archive I downloaded and it's only 8Mb in there as well....so there's a mistake. I'm sure they'll offer up a download of the fixed file as soon as they get back in the office. Fortunately, it's the only one....all the other are sizable and look to be complete. I opened the file in Audacity and it's empty from the 38 second mark to the end. Just alot of nothing to play. Okay guys....get us the fixed file! (I did not post this 3 times....the system gave a "Gateway Timeout" then this happened)
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....thanks for the reminder. I totally forgot. As it would so happen, I did have some extra greasy bacon this morning for breakfast so all is good in the world. Serendipity.
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Well, my elation at receiving them this morning is gone. CD 1 played without issue. CD 2, while firmly lodged in the digipak, has an abrasion and some scratches, and thus skipped during Promised Land. So I've now visually inspected all 19 CDs, and #s 9, 10, and 14 are scratched, and 19 has some abrasions. Does anyone know who I contact about this? I've seen comments before saying, don't contact customer service, contact THIS person...
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I realize this is a first-world problem, but it sucks that I paid $200 and waited for months, and listening to the CDs is now a chore that I feel I need to rush through to identify any additional issues. (And I had a similar experience with Get Shown the Light - multiple CDs had glue issues.) Rhino and GD need to start focusing less on fancy packaging and more on CD quality control.
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One corner damaged by UPS and the other is manufacturing defect. I really hope they can send a replacement box so I don’t have to send the whole thing back. That bird song to kick off disc one is incredible!
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From your lips to Dr Rhino's ears. If it were up to me, everything would be in jewel cases, and THIS is the reason. I was one of the victims of the GTSL Gluegate, and had to be sent two replacement discs. Hard to believe that, given the relatively safe packaging of DaP-style cases with spindles, there are still scratches and scuffs on these new discs, but nothing shocks me anymore. Keep us posted! Guess the first thing I'll do when I get my box is inspect all 19 CDs for trouble. Sigh.
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Just my opinion only, but the CD has gone the way of the Dodo. Some of us came from the time of vinyl and made the transition to CD. After a short while, we realized that they were not going to be the best thing since sliced bread. My experience has always been they are delicate. I have had deep scratches in some and they played great and others had light scratches and were coasters. I have always found them to be a hassle. At some point, consumers need to get on board the digital file train. The pandering to neophytes who refuse to learn how to handle digital files needs to stop. CD's are an environmental disaster as well as an outdated medium. The 30 Trips box - despite the ambiguous choice of show release - was actually a cool idea. A USB stick with all the files on that. 24 bit, too. I would love to see all these box sets released as such. In a nice box with all the toys, bells and whistles, a book if applicable and a USB stick. I like many others, like to have "The Thing Of It". But the music doesn't HAVE to be on CD. The vinyl special releases are cool and vinyl as it turns out, was always more durable than CD and it sounds better. But for the masses, why not just leave CD's out of it and start doing USB sticks?
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....USB sticks are easier to lose. For one. Plus, my dog ate one once. lol.
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