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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • RobbZ
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    1989 Recommendation
    Not sure why, and probably listen to it a bit more than I should, but July 4th, Buffalo has always been a favorite of mine.
  • RobbZ
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    Sports?? I’ll watch/wager on just about any sport. However, I closely follow the NHL and College Football equally (viewing depends on who is playing whom on any given evening). Then the NFL, College Basketball, The NBA, Boxing (was the Mayweather-McGreggor fight boxing?) the CFL, and lastly Baseball. Now don't get me wrong about baseball because it's last on my list...I grew up in Cleveland, minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and watched & cheered many Indian greats such as Ray Fosse, Gaylord Perry, Lenny Barker, Albert Belle, Rick Manning, Mike Hargrove, Super Joe Charboneau, Buddy Bell, and Toby Harrah to name a few. Now a bit later in life, I just prefer a faster game, with an actual clock ending the game. I can't spend 5 or 6 hours watching a baseball game anymore....It's me, not you...LOL @The Outer One…I was actually tuned in last night to the opening of the CFL season, but that lightning delay lasted until I went to sleep. But you can bet I’ll be following the season this year as it progresses…including the Manziel saga in Hamilton. Johnny won me an ass-load of money when he played with A&M…I still talk about that Bama game…LOL @Vguy72…did you not mention the Knights/NHL in your sports post? Blasphemy!! I drove down from Utah three times last season to watch the Knights, would have gone more games but as the season progressed they got better and better and tix were getting expensive. In the mean time I watch the Utah Grizzlies…LOL
  • Thats_Otis
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    Happy Friday, DeadLand!
    Here's a little something special from this day in Grateful Dead history - 6/15/85 Greek Theater https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-15.oade-schoeps.sacks.24586.sbeok.f… The AUD sounds really nice too. Perhaps more famous is 6/15/76, which I am enjoying right now, but that 85 Greek show is something special! TONS of energy, and perhaps one of Garcia's finest ballad moments on "She Belongs to Me." His guitar solo is a thing of pure (American)beauty. Hope everyone has a great weekend! PS - Love all the chatter about July 78 Box. Arrowhead is my personal fave - just a compact, tight, smoking show! I also really like St. Paul... aww hell, they're all good! Peace
  • Oroborous
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    Thanks, another great story!
  • Oroborous
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    Right on 80sfan!
  • Oroborous
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    Baseball, 89, and hangin with Jer
    BASEBALL; I would of died for baseball when I was a lad, was a pretty good player too, varsity etc.. But like all sports I sadly watched money ruin the game....I was a huge Cardinals fan (used to listen to them on the mighty KMOX) Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Joe Torrey, yeah baby. Dug the Red Sox too, but such heartache. In Wesren NY most kids at the time were big Mets fans, or worse, ahem... So like most things I had to be different, the outcast, the other one! Probably a part of how I came to be a dead head and identified with all you weirdos; ) 89; personally parts of 89 into summer 90, before Brenski started to unravel, is one of my favorite eras. I know that’s contrary to the popular belief of a small but prevalent group on here, but don’t let that stop anyone from checking it out and coming up with your own conclusions.... Alpine for sure, Hampton, 10-16-89 is imho one of the best releases EVER! Philly was awesome, really wish they would get those out. When they played California Earthquake right after the Earthquake it was as good as any big moment in sports, trully powerful experience, at least live anyway. Not as familiar with the rest, of course the Miami DS etc.... EVIL TWIN; thanks so much for the stories! Please keep them coming. That’s perhaps my favorite part of this site; hearing great stories, especially from those who were there during those earlier glory years. 78 Box; even I dug it and I like that era less than some others, like??? Oh I don’t know like.... 73/74!!! So psyched for this new Box. Mostly enjoyed the “Mickey Godchaux” stuff of recent years, really liked the RFK, but I’m dam near Sh#&&ing myself waiting for this one! I’ve stated before I’m not a “taper” or obsessive collector like some. So that influences my wish list differently. I would like to get all the shows I was at, some other must haves or interesting wierd stuff, and I try to get at least copies of all the “official” stuff. Therefore I am not familiar with these shows and at first glance the set lists are perhaps meh? But thanks to all y’all’s comments about monster jams, and after watching Dave’s chat, well it got through my thick skull that these will be some real beauties eh! I mean Late 73 has always been one of my top, if not the top eras, I just wasn’t familiar with earlier stuff and though I like 4-3-73, it didn’t blow me away like say 10-19-73....(although that HCS and subsequent jam are sweet!) In fact how bout the rest of the late fall tour in a box? So there is always that awkward period like Ralphie in the Christmas story where he gets everything except that —“redriderbbgunwiththecompassinthestockandthisthingythattellstime” —when they release something I wasn’t at, but this time that lasted like 5 minutes. Now hopefully Dave’s 27 will come soon as a diversion, because I don’t know how I’ll survive until September! Yee-gads Thanks to Dave and all the gang who work so hard to bring us spoiled, whiney little be-atches all this amazing glory, especially the full led sonically enhanced stuff. And thanks to all y’all that help enlighten us dilatantes to the finer ports of these shows. Happy Friday All!!
  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    Had a salad for lunch yesterday. I didn't get to make it myself, but it was delicious. It was a total cash grab though. They didn't really care whether or not I liked the way the radishes were cut into those little swirly shapes. And the way the cashier pressed those buttons on the register with no elan, I could tell his heart and soul just wasn't in the transaction. I knew by then they were just in it for the money. I shook my head in disgust but proceeded to sit alone and eat the salad - even the radishes, in spite of it all.
  • Oroboros
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    Cousins- SpaceBro often provides informed recommendations re: 89
    But being a Midwesterner, I would point to the Alpine Valley run 7/17-18-19/1989, as an outstanding representation of the boys from that era. And my touring had reduced significantly with the arrival of my three sons, so my knowledge of this era is limited. And Robbz, you asked for another story (sorry cohorts who have heard this one, here it comes again) there is a 'prequel' to that 1978 story. Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open with a force that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, wonder gal 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coaxes this old hall to dance with us. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw 'it'. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle next to the ceramic beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall (over us) to the stage. They put spotlights on him (as the Dead made appropriate musical anticipatory noise) and he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much. He and the bike were far below the lip of the stage, so the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage. Which triggered the explosion of Sugar Magnolia, complete with the dropping balloons. And flanking the Dead a gal and guy dressed in a diaper as the 'New Year' babies. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! Hey if you pull up 'YouTube', type in Dead NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, and right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' a couple of years ago and he clued me into it. And then I showed it to my 3 sons to demonstrate the old man is not full of beans or any other'brown material'. Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to 2-3-78 and another road trip to Madison, Wisconsin. The Dead were on a roll and this was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and Snow to start out and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel that will knock you into orbit. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia immediately said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and quickly retorted "we didn't ask him to come". Garcia looked over to me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then you came up to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes.' She looked perplexed. Then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! And now it is available in all its Plantagenet glory. I will always claim that Omaha show as mine. So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'. Forgive me and give me a day and I will conjour up my account of my first show at the Des Moines fair ground in 1974 (which is more in line with this wonderful Northwest 73 & 74 offering). This era is when I first saw the Grateful Dead and was swept into an extraordinary adventure 'on the bus' and have been 'enjoying the ride'. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
  • tncorey
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    New story to me...and much appreciated!
  • 80sfan
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    Fall tour is well documented with the Hampton shows, the Nightfall of Diamonds meadowlands show and the Miami 30 trips release...but the Spectrum run (10/18-10/20) is really excellent. 10/19 is one of my favorite shows of all time. Reach out if you'd like a copy...
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Sorry, off topic...no box here YET! Thanks to the heads up from good folks here, was able to finally get the 30 Trips music edition recently. Had a hell of a time ripping many of the discs. Many read and sync errors. Especially problematic were many disc 2 last track (drums) or last couple of tracks. I believe the 94 Terrapin took forever. In fact, if I wasn’t using Exact Audio Copy on my custom server, I don’t think I would of been successful! Everything so far seems to play fine.... So, did anyone else have any of these problems? I know some have speculated that perhaps some of these rereleased sets were RMA or B stock etc? Just wondering if anyone else had, or has recently experienced any of this phenomena? FYI, don’t think it’s my machine as other things have been fine.....
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I got the same 30 Trips, and they were all clean and burned in easily the first time. Sometimes I use compressed air to blow fuzz and dust out of the disc burner, that doesn't hurt. I also have to say I love the 30 Trips. I'd heard a bunch before but didn't have it all in my possession. The patches don't bother me. As far as furniture with a short leg, well, that's a functional disability. That's like a guitar with a broken neck - unplayable. As far as the scratches, those are just cosmetic, and each of us can decide how uptight we want to be about such things.
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I am not sure how or if they plan to address this. I did notice in prior offerings, the digital files were the same price as the physical product. This time they are cheaper. It's quite possible the digital downloads are just the music this time around. Good luck and happy listening to all.
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I think many here would be interested in this new book soon to be published. Full disclosure: Jarid, the author, is a good buddy. Hello Scott, I am excited to announce the launch of the Kickstarter campaign for THIS OLD BUILDING: The Closing of Winterland, a photo documentary book of my rare images punctuated with tails of adventure from those who experienced this amazing event. This limited edition 8.5x11, hardbound, B&W art book celebrates the final show at Bill Graham's legendary music venue in San Francisco on New Year's Eve 1978 with the Grateful Dead, the Blues Brothers, the New Riders of the Purple Sage and thousands of fellow Deadheads. I invite you to reserve your copy for a pledge of $35. Throw down a bit more for additional rewards like gift giver packages or your choice of an enlargement from the book. You'll find all the pledge details on my Kickstarter page where you can view my campaign video, see photos, and hear the story of how this book came to fruition. With the 40th Anniversary of that final night nearly upon us, THIS OLD BUILDING: The Closing of Winterland will bring forth deep recollections and reignite your excitement for this historic event. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/433001477/this-old-building-the-cl… Thank you and stay in touch. Cheers- Jarid
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If the old put it in the cart and see what is left works it looks like they've sold around 5000 copies this week. If true very wierd. Not sure why so many would wait. Not too important it will sell out maybe by the end of the year. Good news for all who want the shows to keep coming. One thing I know little about is downloads. I hope they get that fixed on a 1st run basis eventually for those that want it. As for the OCD while the short leg is certainly functional. Would you be satisfied with a new car someone at the dealer backed into but was still useable? I seriously doubt it
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They come from Theyville. A small hamlet in Iowa where they have opinions about EVERYTHING!
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I had similar issues with skips on the last Trax of several CDs from all different bands. What I found was the only last tracks that were skipping were the ones where the full 80 minutes of Music had been utilized on the CD. The problem didn't happen on a CD with 45 or 50 minutes. I found that if I slowed the CD rip speed down to 1x, the problem would usually go away. Then out of curiosity, I tried ripping at normal speeds on my work laptop, which was much newer then my home desktop Tower which I had had for many years. In my mind it was a combination of the age of the CD burner and the fully packed 80-minute CDs. Also still waiting. How's the sound everybody? I'd really be interested in kayak guys assessment in particular, because he was very excited about plangent.
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Utopia. Only way I can describe what my ears is exeriencin.' This PNW collection sets the bar with sound quality. This sounds as good if not better than Boxilla. Before we get too crazy, lets’s put the TOO and the multitrack recordings aside. With the 90’s box’s not considered, this is it! Sound is rich and upfront. Everyone is heard; balance is excellent to my ears. Rainy weekend in S. Jersey and GOGD PNW blasting on the grande delux all day. I’m caught between CD’s and high-res download with my wallet open and my cash falling out. The Totem will come, I will open it, look at all the trinkets, read the book, and then close the lid. I just think it’s silly to take out a digital copy (CD) of the show and put it into a CD player when I can play the digital files (at 192/24 vs. 44/16) with a tap on the mouse. I’ll clarify; for me it doesn’t work. I’ve said before here that music listening is a lifestyle. We all have our different ways of going about it. I play the downloads, but continue to buy the hard copes. However, Boxilla got me… I had to decide; just could not buy both. I bought the Bolt specifically for the 192/24 and missed out on the physical book and hoopla. No disc skipping with the downloads. Cheers all!
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Thanks Dave it's everything I ever dreamed of. Life is good.
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PING! That's it exactly. Digital files won't skip. I always back these expensive downloads up. I bought the box as well because I want it. I will never open it so I have what I am calling "Schrodingers Discs". They exist in a state of being both scuffed and not scuffed as I am not opening the box to find out.
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Why would anyone pay almost $200 for something that they will never listen to. Like buying a car and putting it in the garage and never driving it. All is ephemeral and material things have no real value whatsoever. Surely these truths are self-evident. Explanations welcome.
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I can't explain that.. but it's not that much different than what I do. I open it, rip all the CD's.. read all the stuff, liner notes, newspaper clips, all of it - hopefully uninterrupted.. then pack up the box, set it on a shelf in my office and give it a close listen or three or thirty three.. After that I rarely deal with the physical product, at best once every two to three years. If I lose my music drive and backups at the same time (it has happened), I have the hard media to rip and rebuild.. but I have not opened the E72 Trunk in a couple years. When I last moved about 8 years ago I was listening to CDs primarily when working late, etc. So I kept tossing in CDs. I ended up tearing a couple of the jackets from E72.. so I bought seconds of all the ones I listened to a bunch (perhaps two thirds of the shows). Then I just started listening to digital media. My brother will probably be the beneficiary of the extra CDs I no longer listen to. I do have lots of LPs.. I have been keeping up, but I don't have space to set up my turntable and retro system. None of this makes sense, but I do like the physical media and one day I will no longer work. .. so I plan to revisit all this stuff one year, probably sequentially. I don't think this makes any more sense than what was posted earlier.. I guess the music is most important. ..but one day I will open Bickershaw, re-read those liner notes and a smile will come to my face. It's all good, I guess I am a completist. Perhaps many of us are. I bet there is one or two of us out there that are OCD when it comes to really, really good GD. I'm not sure if I am there yet.. but who knows what tomorrow might bring.
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i really like it. the package is a 3D sculpture, totally unneeded, but beautifully done and a pleasure to own. the digipaks are great, the individual disk artwork is great, there is probably a story behind it all i haven't gotten yet. a wonderful mysterious box, the essay is standard Nick Merriwether (Joe Friday) reporting of reviews and interviews, it places the shows in historical context and covers all the factoids about the venues. it also has more art, or the same art in a different context to reinforce the ties between the images and the shows. the sound on the CDs is amazing. Phil is omnipotent, Billy is dancing, Bob is high in the mix, Keith is also very present in the mix, even Donna seems to have been adjusted down to less than overwhelming. it makes me wonder what the previous Dave's releases would have sounded like with a little Plangent processing to the reels. we need a new subscription series of Plangent Processed reels and stop making Dave choose what shows get the inferior processing for Dave's Picks and what gets the Plangent treatment for box sets.
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if you look on eBay for the 30 trips "all music" edition, they are for sale for over $1,000. And it's open. Someone has the original box for $5,000. Not that that will sell for that, but the answer to the question - "Why would someone buy something for $200 and not open it?" can be answered by eBay. FYI - All music edition 30 trips is in the store for $699, so it's not exactly unobtainable. I find it amusing that people bitch hard about Dave's picks selling out, yet this has not. I realize the price is more, but the quality and material is stunning. Last Dave's Pick with the audience patch was amusing. I probably wouldn't have bought it singly, but as a subscription I'm ok, as the next release could be 1969 or some other fantastic set. The cost per show for a subscription is reasonable, as with the box set. I wish they would allow owners of the CD's to download at least the 24 bit FLAC, many other (Amazon) CD sellers bundle digital with physical CD purchases. My purchase has shipped, but will not make it from TN to FL for another 3 days, which is seriously annoying. It's not like they had no idea my order from 3 months ago was supposed to ship to arrive on release day.
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I did the digital download and there seems to be a lot of “static” in some of the songs. Do you hear that with the CDs?
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Just so beautiful sound wise. Not complaining or anything but when I listened to the Weather Report Suite always had that great audience copy where someone yells "Civilization" and "Dark Star, Dark Star" at the start of the Prelude. With that being said... who cares.. heading towards the 46 minute Playing in the Band... Hope everyone who is scheduled for UPS tomorrow gets their box.. Carolina and Mid Atlantic friends please start to prepare.... bob t
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try VLC player, as if you can't play back at the high bit rate, there may be skipping/artifacts. What resolution files ? What player ? Other similar files play ok ?
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The better the system, the more imperfections in the original source recordings can come to light. If you notice them they can be ever-present. I was playing the Lions 7/5/73 Garcia Live 6 show from San Anselmo for a friend at his house.. his system probably costs as much as the cars most people drive.. [all you kinds out there, go to school and become an Orthodontist] anyway.. I think it sounds fantastic, especially the My Bloody Valentine and all he had to say at the end was, what's up with that hiss.. I had to laugh. I went home and there is a small hiss present in a couple of the songs, especially Second That Emotion when they are fine-tuning the mic for the new Trumpet player. Still, throughout most of the set, the sound was pristine.. I swear you could hear a pin drop. These are old recordings with flaws.. and as good as warm as some of us (me ;D) think it sounds, there are anomalies. I will have to check this out when mine comes hopefully tomorrow. Glad to get all these feedback.. the great stuff, warts and all. Love it.
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This is already among my favorite box sets and im not even finished with it yet. Top 5 favorite dead box sets (not including this one) Europe 72 (even though I missed out the steamer I've managed to collect most of the shows) Fillmore 69 July 78 GSTL Spring 90 TOO Honorable mention: winterland 73 I love all the others but these are my favorites. I'm guessing this new box set will crack the top 5 before too long...
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....probably the best song the Dead ever penned.
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Montana Dark Star? Still freaks me out too... Invasion of the Body Snatchers is about to come on TV. Jerry approves of both Love
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I made a purchase like this a few years ago. But less expensive. It was the vinyl of the Record Day: "Dark Star" of May 4, 1972 at L'Olympia de Paris (France). I have never listened to this disc because I do not have a platinum for vinyls. But I bought it because it was the "Dark Star" of the first concert of the Dead that I attended. Fetishism, then. As I own the Europe '72 The Complete Recordings box, I have the opportunity to listen to this concert anyway.
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There is surely a big difference between (a) buying an expensive box, opening it, checking out the goodies within and ripping the CDs and (b) buying an expensive box and an almost equally expensive download, never opening the box and only listening to the download. Buying the box and downloads so that one can sell the box unopened on eBay later is a possible logical explanation but one has to be sure that the item can and will sell at the desired price and at the desired time.
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I am not sure I have ever bought something without the intention of using it-but my house is full of things that I used to use but no longer do,that I can't bring myself to get rid of. You never know when you might fancy having a go with an item that has been in the attic for donkey's years. Hence a house full of books, records, cds, dvds etc. Some things I have, but no longer use, are beautiful in themselves-the green Cadillac Gretsch duo jet in the spare bedroom is hard to get rid of. Others-I very rarely drive, but still have a car-I just keep...in case. Stupid really! Incidentally, I only bought that Paris 1972 Dark Star on vinyl last week. Brilliant-I haven't compared it to the cd version-but I am well pleased with it.
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I have only listened to disc one so far. It really is a good mix. One odd thing I've noticed, and this is relative to other Grateful Dead releases. When I play it on headphones I can hear a lot more of the audio artifacts then on other shows from this year. It seems to be predominantly on the right side. Noticeable only on headphones. Strange however because some of the noise I'm hearing sounds like what I've always thought the term flutter described. And plangent is supposed to get rid of flutter. I can't emphasize enough how slight the noise I'm hearing is. Slight enough you need headphones to pick it up. I also can't emphasize enough that it's not deal breaker by any means. I've heard it in a couple spots and that's it. Like I said the only reason I mention it is because the type of noise it is seems to be that which plangent is supposed to eliminate. Maybe a lifetime in the record business and I don't know what flutter is. Or maybe some did get through.
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I took the day off work. Someone else will have to feed the plants. There was a little bit of good news. Instead of delivery being expected by 8 p.m. it's been updated to 4 p.m. Hey 80s fan, I was surprised that the winterland box set from 1973 was so much lower on your list then this new one. Is there something you don't like about that one? They just seem to almost go together just going by the years. If I had to go desert island with only 2 box sets, I would pick Europe 72 as my first, and instead of Fillmore West 1969, I would go with winterland 1973, and then just grab the best of Fillmore West 1969 3-cd set that came out. I feel like I have my cake and eat it too then.
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Interesting.. I listened/watched to some of this yesterday for the first time. It could be because it I was showing someone something in YouTube and there it was the Up Next bar to the right. Still.. strange coincidence. Man.. we have gotten six inches of rain here the last two days, my river is perhaps three feet above the bottom of my basement and holding.. the pumps are running all the time to drain it and we have another hurricane on the way seemingly tracking right towards us. It's Coming Right For Us! I need a big box set to weight down my front porch so it doesn't drift away.. it's a matter of life or death! (and will make for some great listening while a monster storm is heading my way).
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No shipping notice, no delivery yet. Hopefully this week we'll catch wind of something. I guess i'll stream these listening parties for the time being to get me through. Because I have no other Dead shows to listen to in my collection. Ha Ha.I want the new box though! Everyone is raving about it!
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Right in the middle of the remnants of Tropical Storm Gorden I wait for the UPS truck. Tracking say's the PNW box is on the truck and out for delivery. Hang in there Jim. Here comes sunshine.
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Tracking says Wednesday delivery. I have grate anticipation since these are two of my favorite years-so jazzy. I do like all the years. In anticipation for these yummy six shows I've been playing other years and not listening to the listening parties. I look forward to hearing these shows with open ears. This weekend I've been watching the Dead & Co stream from Alpine Valley I had waiting for me in my nugs stash. It's inspiring seeing the band have a successful summer tour playing the songs we love so well.
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Hey all, for anyone who has listened to 5/19/74 or is already in possession of the box set, there is chatter over on the vinyl thread about vocal dropout on Sugaree through El Paso (side C). Anyone notice faint vocals on the CD's?
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... hey, hey, hey, it's Santa Fe day! Looks like VGuy beat me to the punch tho, (which is appropriate, as he has been singing this shows praises for some time.) It is a doozy! Here is a link to the Hunter Seamons matrix: https://archive.org/details/gd1983-09-10.139379.mtx.seamons.ht112.flac16 The PNW Box should be coming today... Monday ain't so bad :) Peace
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Is anyone else missing the Playin' from 5/21/74? It is supposed to be 46:59 minutes long on disc 18 and my downloaded track is empty. All other music is there. Cannot imaging it's just me with this problem.
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Luckily off today....box arrived before 10 am.....even rainy outside...what more can you ask? Some look for perfection, while others just enjoy! Only on disc 2, but the China/Rider is hot, so pretty much digging in for the remainder, just waiting for a visit from Florence!
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Got my shipment this past Saturday. Warmed up by reading the booklet and reminisced mentally about the Wall. I toured during 1973-74, but since I'm from NY, never had a chance to visit the Northwest. I did see my share of shows, though-Roosevelt Stadium, Hartford, Phila-you get the picture. Anyway I put in the first disk of the first 73 show, and once the goosebumps disappeared, I just started smiling. The mix on Bertha was screwed up in the beginning-I used to LOVE that. Sound guys scurrying around on the side of the stage, trying to get everything dialed in just perfect. Sometimes when you were in the audience, it sometimes took 1 or 2 or 3 songs to get everything just about perfect. you didn't mind waiting cause you always knew they were gonna fix it and boy was it ever worth the wait! The mix on this show is great-every instrument prominent in the mix, but none overbearing. Gonna listen nice and slow so that I always have something to look forward to.
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Got the box set yesterday and ripped em to itunes. Everything went smooth. All I can say is WOW, sound clarity setlist everything is just perfect.Definitely my all time box. Thank's Dave and Deadnet you really came through on this one. Jerry is on fire in these recordings, a peak couple a year's no doubt. For those still waiting you are gonna love it.
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Got the box set yesterday and ripped em to itunes. Everything went smooth. All I can say is WOW, sound clarity setlist everything is just perfect.Definitely my all time box. Thank's Dave and Deadnet you really came through on this one. Jerry is on fire in these recordings, a peak couple a year's no doubt. For those still waiting you are gonna love it.
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Got the box set yesterday and ripped em to itunes. Everything went smooth. All I can say is WOW, sound clarity setlist everything is just perfect.Definitely my all time box. Thank's Dave and Deadnet you really came through on this one. Jerry is on fire in these recordings, a peak couple a year's no doubt. For those still waiting you are gonna love it.
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Tracking link started working this afternoon, so my box has now officially commenced its long strange trip to The Netherlands!
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Yeah, that happened to a bunch of us. My 5/21/74 Playin was missing from the Apple lossless download. Awaiting a fix.
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I have offered the track in Flac for those missing it. PM me for the link. Just take it and convert to ALAC and you will be golden.
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I too recall several people scurrying across the backline on stage at the beginning of shows in '72-'73, tweaking knobs, etc., and always imagined that this must have been annoying for the band. You are the only person to mention this within my earshot in the 45 years since. I did not see the GD in '74, as I was hitchhiking across the country, but I did notice that no scurrying seems to have occurred after the return from the hiatus. By then, they had their touring system well in hand. So, in a way, 1973 still represented an early version of the GD, the epitome of the a long musical march from '66 to '70, '71, '72, and finally '73, with song writing and chops maturing -- BUT still not the total professional presentation, e.g., their concert rigs. Sh*t, when I first saw the GD, Jer had just turned 30 and had not one gray hair on his dual-pig-tailed head. And I had just turned 15... Lookin' forward to the summer '73 shows coming our way. Still waiting in Denver.
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