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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    10.1.94's Space into Last Time....
    ....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
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  • LedDed
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    They say...
    ...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
  • MDJim
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    I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
  • Vguy72
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    ....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
  • Vguy72
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    ....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
  • LedDed
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    "Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."
    I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
  • LedDed
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    First world problems... yawn
    This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
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    I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Sorry, off topic...no box here YET! Thanks to the heads up from good folks here, was able to finally get the 30 Trips music edition recently. Had a hell of a time ripping many of the discs. Many read and sync errors. Especially problematic were many disc 2 last track (drums) or last couple of tracks. I believe the 94 Terrapin took forever. In fact, if I wasn’t using Exact Audio Copy on my custom server, I don’t think I would of been successful! Everything so far seems to play fine.... So, did anyone else have any of these problems? I know some have speculated that perhaps some of these rereleased sets were RMA or B stock etc? Just wondering if anyone else had, or has recently experienced any of this phenomena? FYI, don’t think it’s my machine as other things have been fine.....
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I got the same 30 Trips, and they were all clean and burned in easily the first time. Sometimes I use compressed air to blow fuzz and dust out of the disc burner, that doesn't hurt. I also have to say I love the 30 Trips. I'd heard a bunch before but didn't have it all in my possession. The patches don't bother me. As far as furniture with a short leg, well, that's a functional disability. That's like a guitar with a broken neck - unplayable. As far as the scratches, those are just cosmetic, and each of us can decide how uptight we want to be about such things.
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I am not sure how or if they plan to address this. I did notice in prior offerings, the digital files were the same price as the physical product. This time they are cheaper. It's quite possible the digital downloads are just the music this time around. Good luck and happy listening to all.
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I think many here would be interested in this new book soon to be published. Full disclosure: Jarid, the author, is a good buddy. Hello Scott, I am excited to announce the launch of the Kickstarter campaign for THIS OLD BUILDING: The Closing of Winterland, a photo documentary book of my rare images punctuated with tails of adventure from those who experienced this amazing event. This limited edition 8.5x11, hardbound, B&W art book celebrates the final show at Bill Graham's legendary music venue in San Francisco on New Year's Eve 1978 with the Grateful Dead, the Blues Brothers, the New Riders of the Purple Sage and thousands of fellow Deadheads. I invite you to reserve your copy for a pledge of $35. Throw down a bit more for additional rewards like gift giver packages or your choice of an enlargement from the book. You'll find all the pledge details on my Kickstarter page where you can view my campaign video, see photos, and hear the story of how this book came to fruition. With the 40th Anniversary of that final night nearly upon us, THIS OLD BUILDING: The Closing of Winterland will bring forth deep recollections and reignite your excitement for this historic event. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/433001477/this-old-building-the-cl… Thank you and stay in touch. Cheers- Jarid
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If the old put it in the cart and see what is left works it looks like they've sold around 5000 copies this week. If true very wierd. Not sure why so many would wait. Not too important it will sell out maybe by the end of the year. Good news for all who want the shows to keep coming. One thing I know little about is downloads. I hope they get that fixed on a 1st run basis eventually for those that want it. As for the OCD while the short leg is certainly functional. Would you be satisfied with a new car someone at the dealer backed into but was still useable? I seriously doubt it
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They come from Theyville. A small hamlet in Iowa where they have opinions about EVERYTHING!
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I had similar issues with skips on the last Trax of several CDs from all different bands. What I found was the only last tracks that were skipping were the ones where the full 80 minutes of Music had been utilized on the CD. The problem didn't happen on a CD with 45 or 50 minutes. I found that if I slowed the CD rip speed down to 1x, the problem would usually go away. Then out of curiosity, I tried ripping at normal speeds on my work laptop, which was much newer then my home desktop Tower which I had had for many years. In my mind it was a combination of the age of the CD burner and the fully packed 80-minute CDs. Also still waiting. How's the sound everybody? I'd really be interested in kayak guys assessment in particular, because he was very excited about plangent.
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Utopia. Only way I can describe what my ears is exeriencin.' This PNW collection sets the bar with sound quality. This sounds as good if not better than Boxilla. Before we get too crazy, lets’s put the TOO and the multitrack recordings aside. With the 90’s box’s not considered, this is it! Sound is rich and upfront. Everyone is heard; balance is excellent to my ears. Rainy weekend in S. Jersey and GOGD PNW blasting on the grande delux all day. I’m caught between CD’s and high-res download with my wallet open and my cash falling out. The Totem will come, I will open it, look at all the trinkets, read the book, and then close the lid. I just think it’s silly to take out a digital copy (CD) of the show and put it into a CD player when I can play the digital files (at 192/24 vs. 44/16) with a tap on the mouse. I’ll clarify; for me it doesn’t work. I’ve said before here that music listening is a lifestyle. We all have our different ways of going about it. I play the downloads, but continue to buy the hard copes. However, Boxilla got me… I had to decide; just could not buy both. I bought the Bolt specifically for the 192/24 and missed out on the physical book and hoopla. No disc skipping with the downloads. Cheers all!
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Thanks Dave it's everything I ever dreamed of. Life is good.
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PING! That's it exactly. Digital files won't skip. I always back these expensive downloads up. I bought the box as well because I want it. I will never open it so I have what I am calling "Schrodingers Discs". They exist in a state of being both scuffed and not scuffed as I am not opening the box to find out.
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Why would anyone pay almost $200 for something that they will never listen to. Like buying a car and putting it in the garage and never driving it. All is ephemeral and material things have no real value whatsoever. Surely these truths are self-evident. Explanations welcome.
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I can't explain that.. but it's not that much different than what I do. I open it, rip all the CD's.. read all the stuff, liner notes, newspaper clips, all of it - hopefully uninterrupted.. then pack up the box, set it on a shelf in my office and give it a close listen or three or thirty three.. After that I rarely deal with the physical product, at best once every two to three years. If I lose my music drive and backups at the same time (it has happened), I have the hard media to rip and rebuild.. but I have not opened the E72 Trunk in a couple years. When I last moved about 8 years ago I was listening to CDs primarily when working late, etc. So I kept tossing in CDs. I ended up tearing a couple of the jackets from E72.. so I bought seconds of all the ones I listened to a bunch (perhaps two thirds of the shows). Then I just started listening to digital media. My brother will probably be the beneficiary of the extra CDs I no longer listen to. I do have lots of LPs.. I have been keeping up, but I don't have space to set up my turntable and retro system. None of this makes sense, but I do like the physical media and one day I will no longer work. .. so I plan to revisit all this stuff one year, probably sequentially. I don't think this makes any more sense than what was posted earlier.. I guess the music is most important. ..but one day I will open Bickershaw, re-read those liner notes and a smile will come to my face. It's all good, I guess I am a completist. Perhaps many of us are. I bet there is one or two of us out there that are OCD when it comes to really, really good GD. I'm not sure if I am there yet.. but who knows what tomorrow might bring.
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i really like it. the package is a 3D sculpture, totally unneeded, but beautifully done and a pleasure to own. the digipaks are great, the individual disk artwork is great, there is probably a story behind it all i haven't gotten yet. a wonderful mysterious box, the essay is standard Nick Merriwether (Joe Friday) reporting of reviews and interviews, it places the shows in historical context and covers all the factoids about the venues. it also has more art, or the same art in a different context to reinforce the ties between the images and the shows. the sound on the CDs is amazing. Phil is omnipotent, Billy is dancing, Bob is high in the mix, Keith is also very present in the mix, even Donna seems to have been adjusted down to less than overwhelming. it makes me wonder what the previous Dave's releases would have sounded like with a little Plangent processing to the reels. we need a new subscription series of Plangent Processed reels and stop making Dave choose what shows get the inferior processing for Dave's Picks and what gets the Plangent treatment for box sets.
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if you look on eBay for the 30 trips "all music" edition, they are for sale for over $1,000. And it's open. Someone has the original box for $5,000. Not that that will sell for that, but the answer to the question - "Why would someone buy something for $200 and not open it?" can be answered by eBay. FYI - All music edition 30 trips is in the store for $699, so it's not exactly unobtainable. I find it amusing that people bitch hard about Dave's picks selling out, yet this has not. I realize the price is more, but the quality and material is stunning. Last Dave's Pick with the audience patch was amusing. I probably wouldn't have bought it singly, but as a subscription I'm ok, as the next release could be 1969 or some other fantastic set. The cost per show for a subscription is reasonable, as with the box set. I wish they would allow owners of the CD's to download at least the 24 bit FLAC, many other (Amazon) CD sellers bundle digital with physical CD purchases. My purchase has shipped, but will not make it from TN to FL for another 3 days, which is seriously annoying. It's not like they had no idea my order from 3 months ago was supposed to ship to arrive on release day.
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I did the digital download and there seems to be a lot of “static” in some of the songs. Do you hear that with the CDs?
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Just so beautiful sound wise. Not complaining or anything but when I listened to the Weather Report Suite always had that great audience copy where someone yells "Civilization" and "Dark Star, Dark Star" at the start of the Prelude. With that being said... who cares.. heading towards the 46 minute Playing in the Band... Hope everyone who is scheduled for UPS tomorrow gets their box.. Carolina and Mid Atlantic friends please start to prepare.... bob t
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try VLC player, as if you can't play back at the high bit rate, there may be skipping/artifacts. What resolution files ? What player ? Other similar files play ok ?
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The better the system, the more imperfections in the original source recordings can come to light. If you notice them they can be ever-present. I was playing the Lions 7/5/73 Garcia Live 6 show from San Anselmo for a friend at his house.. his system probably costs as much as the cars most people drive.. [all you kinds out there, go to school and become an Orthodontist] anyway.. I think it sounds fantastic, especially the My Bloody Valentine and all he had to say at the end was, what's up with that hiss.. I had to laugh. I went home and there is a small hiss present in a couple of the songs, especially Second That Emotion when they are fine-tuning the mic for the new Trumpet player. Still, throughout most of the set, the sound was pristine.. I swear you could hear a pin drop. These are old recordings with flaws.. and as good as warm as some of us (me ;D) think it sounds, there are anomalies. I will have to check this out when mine comes hopefully tomorrow. Glad to get all these feedback.. the great stuff, warts and all. Love it.
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This is already among my favorite box sets and im not even finished with it yet. Top 5 favorite dead box sets (not including this one) Europe 72 (even though I missed out the steamer I've managed to collect most of the shows) Fillmore 69 July 78 GSTL Spring 90 TOO Honorable mention: winterland 73 I love all the others but these are my favorites. I'm guessing this new box set will crack the top 5 before too long...
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....probably the best song the Dead ever penned.
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Montana Dark Star? Still freaks me out too... Invasion of the Body Snatchers is about to come on TV. Jerry approves of both Love
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I made a purchase like this a few years ago. But less expensive. It was the vinyl of the Record Day: "Dark Star" of May 4, 1972 at L'Olympia de Paris (France). I have never listened to this disc because I do not have a platinum for vinyls. But I bought it because it was the "Dark Star" of the first concert of the Dead that I attended. Fetishism, then. As I own the Europe '72 The Complete Recordings box, I have the opportunity to listen to this concert anyway.
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There is surely a big difference between (a) buying an expensive box, opening it, checking out the goodies within and ripping the CDs and (b) buying an expensive box and an almost equally expensive download, never opening the box and only listening to the download. Buying the box and downloads so that one can sell the box unopened on eBay later is a possible logical explanation but one has to be sure that the item can and will sell at the desired price and at the desired time.
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I am not sure I have ever bought something without the intention of using it-but my house is full of things that I used to use but no longer do,that I can't bring myself to get rid of. You never know when you might fancy having a go with an item that has been in the attic for donkey's years. Hence a house full of books, records, cds, dvds etc. Some things I have, but no longer use, are beautiful in themselves-the green Cadillac Gretsch duo jet in the spare bedroom is hard to get rid of. Others-I very rarely drive, but still have a car-I just keep...in case. Stupid really! Incidentally, I only bought that Paris 1972 Dark Star on vinyl last week. Brilliant-I haven't compared it to the cd version-but I am well pleased with it.
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I have only listened to disc one so far. It really is a good mix. One odd thing I've noticed, and this is relative to other Grateful Dead releases. When I play it on headphones I can hear a lot more of the audio artifacts then on other shows from this year. It seems to be predominantly on the right side. Noticeable only on headphones. Strange however because some of the noise I'm hearing sounds like what I've always thought the term flutter described. And plangent is supposed to get rid of flutter. I can't emphasize enough how slight the noise I'm hearing is. Slight enough you need headphones to pick it up. I also can't emphasize enough that it's not deal breaker by any means. I've heard it in a couple spots and that's it. Like I said the only reason I mention it is because the type of noise it is seems to be that which plangent is supposed to eliminate. Maybe a lifetime in the record business and I don't know what flutter is. Or maybe some did get through.
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I took the day off work. Someone else will have to feed the plants. There was a little bit of good news. Instead of delivery being expected by 8 p.m. it's been updated to 4 p.m. Hey 80s fan, I was surprised that the winterland box set from 1973 was so much lower on your list then this new one. Is there something you don't like about that one? They just seem to almost go together just going by the years. If I had to go desert island with only 2 box sets, I would pick Europe 72 as my first, and instead of Fillmore West 1969, I would go with winterland 1973, and then just grab the best of Fillmore West 1969 3-cd set that came out. I feel like I have my cake and eat it too then.
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Interesting.. I listened/watched to some of this yesterday for the first time. It could be because it I was showing someone something in YouTube and there it was the Up Next bar to the right. Still.. strange coincidence. Man.. we have gotten six inches of rain here the last two days, my river is perhaps three feet above the bottom of my basement and holding.. the pumps are running all the time to drain it and we have another hurricane on the way seemingly tracking right towards us. It's Coming Right For Us! I need a big box set to weight down my front porch so it doesn't drift away.. it's a matter of life or death! (and will make for some great listening while a monster storm is heading my way).
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No shipping notice, no delivery yet. Hopefully this week we'll catch wind of something. I guess i'll stream these listening parties for the time being to get me through. Because I have no other Dead shows to listen to in my collection. Ha Ha.I want the new box though! Everyone is raving about it!
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Right in the middle of the remnants of Tropical Storm Gorden I wait for the UPS truck. Tracking say's the PNW box is on the truck and out for delivery. Hang in there Jim. Here comes sunshine.
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Tracking says Wednesday delivery. I have grate anticipation since these are two of my favorite years-so jazzy. I do like all the years. In anticipation for these yummy six shows I've been playing other years and not listening to the listening parties. I look forward to hearing these shows with open ears. This weekend I've been watching the Dead & Co stream from Alpine Valley I had waiting for me in my nugs stash. It's inspiring seeing the band have a successful summer tour playing the songs we love so well.
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Hey all, for anyone who has listened to 5/19/74 or is already in possession of the box set, there is chatter over on the vinyl thread about vocal dropout on Sugaree through El Paso (side C). Anyone notice faint vocals on the CD's?
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... hey, hey, hey, it's Santa Fe day! Looks like VGuy beat me to the punch tho, (which is appropriate, as he has been singing this shows praises for some time.) It is a doozy! Here is a link to the Hunter Seamons matrix: https://archive.org/details/gd1983-09-10.139379.mtx.seamons.ht112.flac16 The PNW Box should be coming today... Monday ain't so bad :) Peace
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Is anyone else missing the Playin' from 5/21/74? It is supposed to be 46:59 minutes long on disc 18 and my downloaded track is empty. All other music is there. Cannot imaging it's just me with this problem.
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Luckily off today....box arrived before 10 am.....even rainy outside...what more can you ask? Some look for perfection, while others just enjoy! Only on disc 2, but the China/Rider is hot, so pretty much digging in for the remainder, just waiting for a visit from Florence!
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Got my shipment this past Saturday. Warmed up by reading the booklet and reminisced mentally about the Wall. I toured during 1973-74, but since I'm from NY, never had a chance to visit the Northwest. I did see my share of shows, though-Roosevelt Stadium, Hartford, Phila-you get the picture. Anyway I put in the first disk of the first 73 show, and once the goosebumps disappeared, I just started smiling. The mix on Bertha was screwed up in the beginning-I used to LOVE that. Sound guys scurrying around on the side of the stage, trying to get everything dialed in just perfect. Sometimes when you were in the audience, it sometimes took 1 or 2 or 3 songs to get everything just about perfect. you didn't mind waiting cause you always knew they were gonna fix it and boy was it ever worth the wait! The mix on this show is great-every instrument prominent in the mix, but none overbearing. Gonna listen nice and slow so that I always have something to look forward to.
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Got the box set yesterday and ripped em to itunes. Everything went smooth. All I can say is WOW, sound clarity setlist everything is just perfect.Definitely my all time box. Thank's Dave and Deadnet you really came through on this one. Jerry is on fire in these recordings, a peak couple a year's no doubt. For those still waiting you are gonna love it.
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Got the box set yesterday and ripped em to itunes. Everything went smooth. All I can say is WOW, sound clarity setlist everything is just perfect.Definitely my all time box. Thank's Dave and Deadnet you really came through on this one. Jerry is on fire in these recordings, a peak couple a year's no doubt. For those still waiting you are gonna love it.
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Got the box set yesterday and ripped em to itunes. Everything went smooth. All I can say is WOW, sound clarity setlist everything is just perfect.Definitely my all time box. Thank's Dave and Deadnet you really came through on this one. Jerry is on fire in these recordings, a peak couple a year's no doubt. For those still waiting you are gonna love it.
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Tracking link started working this afternoon, so my box has now officially commenced its long strange trip to The Netherlands!
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Yeah, that happened to a bunch of us. My 5/21/74 Playin was missing from the Apple lossless download. Awaiting a fix.
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I have offered the track in Flac for those missing it. PM me for the link. Just take it and convert to ALAC and you will be golden.
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I too recall several people scurrying across the backline on stage at the beginning of shows in '72-'73, tweaking knobs, etc., and always imagined that this must have been annoying for the band. You are the only person to mention this within my earshot in the 45 years since. I did not see the GD in '74, as I was hitchhiking across the country, but I did notice that no scurrying seems to have occurred after the return from the hiatus. By then, they had their touring system well in hand. So, in a way, 1973 still represented an early version of the GD, the epitome of the a long musical march from '66 to '70, '71, '72, and finally '73, with song writing and chops maturing -- BUT still not the total professional presentation, e.g., their concert rigs. Sh*t, when I first saw the GD, Jer had just turned 30 and had not one gray hair on his dual-pig-tailed head. And I had just turned 15... Lookin' forward to the summer '73 shows coming our way. Still waiting in Denver.
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