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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • RobbZ
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    1989 Recommendation
    Not sure why, and probably listen to it a bit more than I should, but July 4th, Buffalo has always been a favorite of mine.
  • RobbZ
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    Sports?? I’ll watch/wager on just about any sport. However, I closely follow the NHL and College Football equally (viewing depends on who is playing whom on any given evening). Then the NFL, College Basketball, The NBA, Boxing (was the Mayweather-McGreggor fight boxing?) the CFL, and lastly Baseball. Now don't get me wrong about baseball because it's last on my list...I grew up in Cleveland, minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and watched & cheered many Indian greats such as Ray Fosse, Gaylord Perry, Lenny Barker, Albert Belle, Rick Manning, Mike Hargrove, Super Joe Charboneau, Buddy Bell, and Toby Harrah to name a few. Now a bit later in life, I just prefer a faster game, with an actual clock ending the game. I can't spend 5 or 6 hours watching a baseball game anymore....It's me, not you...LOL @The Outer One…I was actually tuned in last night to the opening of the CFL season, but that lightning delay lasted until I went to sleep. But you can bet I’ll be following the season this year as it progresses…including the Manziel saga in Hamilton. Johnny won me an ass-load of money when he played with A&M…I still talk about that Bama game…LOL @Vguy72…did you not mention the Knights/NHL in your sports post? Blasphemy!! I drove down from Utah three times last season to watch the Knights, would have gone more games but as the season progressed they got better and better and tix were getting expensive. In the mean time I watch the Utah Grizzlies…LOL
  • Thats_Otis
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    Happy Friday, DeadLand!
    Here's a little something special from this day in Grateful Dead history - 6/15/85 Greek Theater https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-15.oade-schoeps.sacks.24586.sbeok.f… The AUD sounds really nice too. Perhaps more famous is 6/15/76, which I am enjoying right now, but that 85 Greek show is something special! TONS of energy, and perhaps one of Garcia's finest ballad moments on "She Belongs to Me." His guitar solo is a thing of pure (American)beauty. Hope everyone has a great weekend! PS - Love all the chatter about July 78 Box. Arrowhead is my personal fave - just a compact, tight, smoking show! I also really like St. Paul... aww hell, they're all good! Peace
  • Oroborous
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    Thanks, another great story!
  • Oroborous
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    Right on 80sfan!
  • Oroborous
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    Baseball, 89, and hangin with Jer
    BASEBALL; I would of died for baseball when I was a lad, was a pretty good player too, varsity etc.. But like all sports I sadly watched money ruin the game....I was a huge Cardinals fan (used to listen to them on the mighty KMOX) Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Joe Torrey, yeah baby. Dug the Red Sox too, but such heartache. In Wesren NY most kids at the time were big Mets fans, or worse, ahem... So like most things I had to be different, the outcast, the other one! Probably a part of how I came to be a dead head and identified with all you weirdos; ) 89; personally parts of 89 into summer 90, before Brenski started to unravel, is one of my favorite eras. I know that’s contrary to the popular belief of a small but prevalent group on here, but don’t let that stop anyone from checking it out and coming up with your own conclusions.... Alpine for sure, Hampton, 10-16-89 is imho one of the best releases EVER! Philly was awesome, really wish they would get those out. When they played California Earthquake right after the Earthquake it was as good as any big moment in sports, trully powerful experience, at least live anyway. Not as familiar with the rest, of course the Miami DS etc.... EVIL TWIN; thanks so much for the stories! Please keep them coming. That’s perhaps my favorite part of this site; hearing great stories, especially from those who were there during those earlier glory years. 78 Box; even I dug it and I like that era less than some others, like??? Oh I don’t know like.... 73/74!!! So psyched for this new Box. Mostly enjoyed the “Mickey Godchaux” stuff of recent years, really liked the RFK, but I’m dam near Sh#&&ing myself waiting for this one! I’ve stated before I’m not a “taper” or obsessive collector like some. So that influences my wish list differently. I would like to get all the shows I was at, some other must haves or interesting wierd stuff, and I try to get at least copies of all the “official” stuff. Therefore I am not familiar with these shows and at first glance the set lists are perhaps meh? But thanks to all y’all’s comments about monster jams, and after watching Dave’s chat, well it got through my thick skull that these will be some real beauties eh! I mean Late 73 has always been one of my top, if not the top eras, I just wasn’t familiar with earlier stuff and though I like 4-3-73, it didn’t blow me away like say 10-19-73....(although that HCS and subsequent jam are sweet!) In fact how bout the rest of the late fall tour in a box? So there is always that awkward period like Ralphie in the Christmas story where he gets everything except that —“redriderbbgunwiththecompassinthestockandthisthingythattellstime” —when they release something I wasn’t at, but this time that lasted like 5 minutes. Now hopefully Dave’s 27 will come soon as a diversion, because I don’t know how I’ll survive until September! Yee-gads Thanks to Dave and all the gang who work so hard to bring us spoiled, whiney little be-atches all this amazing glory, especially the full led sonically enhanced stuff. And thanks to all y’all that help enlighten us dilatantes to the finer ports of these shows. Happy Friday All!!
  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    Had a salad for lunch yesterday. I didn't get to make it myself, but it was delicious. It was a total cash grab though. They didn't really care whether or not I liked the way the radishes were cut into those little swirly shapes. And the way the cashier pressed those buttons on the register with no elan, I could tell his heart and soul just wasn't in the transaction. I knew by then they were just in it for the money. I shook my head in disgust but proceeded to sit alone and eat the salad - even the radishes, in spite of it all.
  • Oroboros
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    Cousins- SpaceBro often provides informed recommendations re: 89
    But being a Midwesterner, I would point to the Alpine Valley run 7/17-18-19/1989, as an outstanding representation of the boys from that era. And my touring had reduced significantly with the arrival of my three sons, so my knowledge of this era is limited. And Robbz, you asked for another story (sorry cohorts who have heard this one, here it comes again) there is a 'prequel' to that 1978 story. Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open with a force that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, wonder gal 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coaxes this old hall to dance with us. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw 'it'. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle next to the ceramic beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall (over us) to the stage. They put spotlights on him (as the Dead made appropriate musical anticipatory noise) and he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much. He and the bike were far below the lip of the stage, so the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage. Which triggered the explosion of Sugar Magnolia, complete with the dropping balloons. And flanking the Dead a gal and guy dressed in a diaper as the 'New Year' babies. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! Hey if you pull up 'YouTube', type in Dead NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, and right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' a couple of years ago and he clued me into it. And then I showed it to my 3 sons to demonstrate the old man is not full of beans or any other'brown material'. Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to 2-3-78 and another road trip to Madison, Wisconsin. The Dead were on a roll and this was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and Snow to start out and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel that will knock you into orbit. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia immediately said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and quickly retorted "we didn't ask him to come". Garcia looked over to me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then you came up to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes.' She looked perplexed. Then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! And now it is available in all its Plantagenet glory. I will always claim that Omaha show as mine. So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'. Forgive me and give me a day and I will conjour up my account of my first show at the Des Moines fair ground in 1974 (which is more in line with this wonderful Northwest 73 & 74 offering). This era is when I first saw the Grateful Dead and was swept into an extraordinary adventure 'on the bus' and have been 'enjoying the ride'. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
  • tncorey
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    New story to me...and much appreciated!
  • 80sfan
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    Fall tour is well documented with the Hampton shows, the Nightfall of Diamonds meadowlands show and the Miami 30 trips release...but the Spectrum run (10/18-10/20) is really excellent. 10/19 is one of my favorite shows of all time. Reach out if you'd like a copy...
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Will be receiving my box set today by UPS, just need to finish my day of work, luckily I get off at 12;40 pm and shoot to the dentist, my teeth cleaning and get home and hope to see my box sitting there. very excited
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Quite agree SimonRob. As my name is not Mr A M Azon I do not wish to dodge tax. But when the things are imported via UPS they offer up the duty on entry whereas when the deliveries come using international snail mail they quite often (not always) do not attract the attention of Customs. That's why quite a lot of us in the UK and Europe are prepared to wait the month or so for delivery. On a boring technical point my agreement with Dead.Net was for "snail mail" not UPS to be used. Now I appear to have some listening to do! And the whole package is a thing of beauty :-) Cheers
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Just arrived home to find a failed delivery card from those most legal of highway robbers, UPS for my PNW box set. Those dolts want £71.99 from me to release the goods....we'll see about that !. Now, does anyone know of anyone i can contact initially (GDM etc) in order to get the ball rolling ?. The fact that different fees have been levied for various purchasers of the box prove beyond all reasonable doubt that these morons (UPS) are arbitrarily plucking figures out of a hat for charging purposes. What a cluster@&ck !.
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I got my set yesterday and opened it this morning. It is really beautiful but very oddly, disc 15 from the Portland '74 set is completely missing. I emailed customer service, hope they get back to me soon. Anybody else have a problem like this?
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It is indeed disturbing that folks in England seem to be being charged varying/random amounts by UPS for import duty. I cannot see how that can be right. @marshie59: You state that "my agreement with Dead.Net was for "snail mail" not UPS to be used." Personally I have never seen a choice of international shipping options here on dead.net. Normally there is only the one option, i.e. International shipping. It is not stated how this will be done. Mostly it is by USPS and takes a few weeks, longer if the value of the order attracts the attention of customs. Sometimes they choose to use UPS for some reason. Delivery time with UPS is typically much quicker. As for sometimes paying duty and sometimes not, that is down to the value of the item(s) rather than them shipper used. Here in the Netherlands, I never have to pay duty on items like Dave's Picks but always on high priced items such as box sets. There are clearly stated values at which VAT and import duty are levied on goods and they stick pretty closely to those values.
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Likewise in the UK, I've arrived home from work to find an invoice from UPS for charges totalling £48.71! At least this amount correlates to what another person here has said they have been charged. If £37.46 of such is the Import Tax (it's shown as Import VAT on the invoice), then I guess there's not a lot I can do about that one. BUT what the hell are the brokerage charges of £11.25???!!! Like others, I've already paid postage to the UK of $53.99, roughly £41.42 (at current rates).The total postage and charges is therefore going to be approx. 50% of the price of the box itself!!! Has anybody reached out to dead.net, or got an answer from them. If I'd have known about these additional charges.....!
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Last years big box (cornell 77 etc) came via snail mail and did not get "dutied". Bye the bye last time Deadnet used UPS to UK ( an early Dave) they held up their hands and admitted it was an error and made a refund. It might have only been the brokerage - can't quite remember
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This is what (in this case) UPS charge for doing the work of the customs for them. The amount is an additional charge above the import duty. However, here in the Netherlands (and probably in most other countries), if a package enters the country and duty is levied by the customs themselves, they also add their own administrative charge on top of the duty. It is not only UPS who add on such charges, governments do it as well. Ain't nothing for free these days in a world where everyone is a thief. Sad but true department.
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Your comments about newbies and their "ignorance" were made in such a condescending manner that the context is irrelevant. You're just a jackass for talking down to people who aren't as Deader than Thou. The fact of the matter is that there ARE more and more people coming across this music for the first time (in no small part to Dead & Co), and they're used to better quality than what these archive tapes often provide. Instead of insulting them, why don't you kindly explain the backstory of these tapes and provide some links. Better yet, since you are so interested in having them aboard for their financial contribution to the machine that provides you with so much personal pleasure, why don't you really put that burnt-out head to use, and point them to something that sounds a little more like a common commercial release from a band, like Get Shown The Light.
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Recently (since Warner has taken over handling orders?) the value on the customs declaration on packages has been stated as $1. This first came to my attention with my order for the "Get shown the light" box which cost $139.98. Instead of the postman delivering the package he delivered a letter from the Dutch customs which asked me to provide proof of the value of the package. Unfortunately they were unable to give me any details about the package whatsoever, but luckily it was the only international order that I was currently awaiting. As well as having to fill out a customs form which threatened all sorts of dire consequences for stating incorrect information (bearing in mind I was guessing what package they were referring to) I had to provide a copy of the original order where the value was naturally given in dollars and also a copy of my credit card transactions which showed both a dollar and a Euro value for the order. Subsequently my package was delivered after a wait of some two weeks, meaning that it was took more than a month from shipping to arriving at my house. When it did arrive, I checked the customs declaration sticker and saw that a value of $1 had been stated for this fairly large box set of CDs. No wonder the customs didn't believe the declaration. Not all customs were as savvy as the Dutch customs, meaning that some lucky punters did not have to pay duty. Again it really had little to do with "snail mail" shipping.
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Have indeed reached out.... but kind of not holding my breath to be honest... will update on here if I hear anything back
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I also found your post condescending and patronizing. I do not see how you are in a position to pontificate from on high about old-school Heads and people who, in your not-so-humble opinion often sound like they belong somewhere else. I am well aware of the existence of the LMA. I also have my share of downloads but I freely admit I never had any involvement with the classic 80s/90s Deadtape-sharing community as that was hard to do from Europe. I assume that you do not dare to purchase a Dave's Picks subscription each year because not knowing what will be released means that you cannot listen to the shows beforehand on the LMA or whatever to hear whether or not they are just exactly perfect.
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Received mine today with no issues and in pristine condition. I honestly can't say enough about the art, the box design, the writings, the Native history, let alone the music contained within. This is truly some of the richest cream off the top of the vault. The soundscape is special too, to my ears it doesn't sound quite like any of the other releases or box sets so far but is up there in quality similar to the earlier Winterland '73 box, which had previously been a top favorite. The clarity and presence of Bob's guitar has been astounding me as well, he is a truly wondrous guitar player... And to those missing discs from the set...check your cabinet legs too they may be uneven :)
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Well I live in Switzerland. Last Friday I got an email from Deadnet that announced that the box was sent on its way, expected delivery time: 4-6 weeks. But today(only 5 days later)- oh miracle - the postman was ringing at my door and brought the box. I had to pay 40 CHF (ca. 34 Euros) customs and other costs. But that didn't bother me, because the box arrived so soon, sent from England.Now I'm listening to the first CD, I dwell in beauty. Probably the most beautiful "Box of Rain" of all times (same was said about "Bird Song" to which I can agree). "Sugaree" has an unusual emotional depth, not so much crescendo, but many nuances...And the sound, wow! The width is incredible, already in 1973; hats off to the mastering. Every instrument can be heard on its own, Garcia's guitar meanders, the piano is dripping and sounds crystal clear. The sound experience is probably better than it was live in 1973 (except you were standing right in front of the stage). Reading the comments in the book about matriarchal tribes fits very well: the feeling/the female healing and enforcing the male. It fits all together. Long live the Native Americans, long live the Dead! Enjoy! Romeo Nathan Bumann alias Mr. RNB
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I thought that the number of your boxed set was related to when you placed your order. I checked out the website around 9:30am PST on June 12th and saw the pre-order for the boxed set so I ordered it. I received the confirmation of my order at 9:55am PST. I received the email announcing the box set at 10:16am PST. So my order for this boxed set was confirmed 20 minutes before the email officially announcing it was sent out. I received my order yesterday and I received Limited Edition number 08750 out of 15,000. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE. How can they possible explain that over 8700 people ordered the box set before the email went out officially announcing it. If that was true it should have sold out by now. I have always placed my order for the Special Edition items shortly after receiving the email and have ALWAYS received a number in the bottom 10%. WHAT BULLSH1T. I guess it no longer matters when you place your order. Order early and get a high number. Order was week after it was announced and you probably got a low number. WHAT BULLSH1T
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I thought it was interesting that they mentioned this in the book. Especially considering how the Dead was so chauvinistic and misogynistic. I can't tell you how many books I've read and interviews I've seen where all anyone from deep inside the family says it was guys party and the wives/girlfriends were not necessarily seen as "matriarchal leaders." The only person (if anyone at all) that I can think of this section in the book was for...is Carolyn Garcia.
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This is the fastest shipping in years, todays miracle has arrived!
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This has been explained and hypothesized on long before it agitated you. Short answer that is totally unrealistic and makes no difference. I believe the winning theory has been ...the cards are added to the boxes as they are brought off pallets for final assembly so the stacks of numbers on cards to be put in boxes is arbitrary as is the box it was placed in. They get pulled and placed, not really anything to complain about. Scan it and photoshop the numbers and print it out with a 1 on it if pleases you. I have also pre-ordered within the hours of announcements and often have been the first poster on the forums for the release. However I have received a wide range of number over the years...some high and some low. I think the lowest number I ever received was for the Europe 72 and I got an 81 or something like that.
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I can't even afford to procure one of these awesome looking boxes for myself. I'll take it if the numbers too high for you.
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Sitting in the dentist office for my cleaning and my RING camera alerted me and it’s was the UPS guy dropping off my box set. Can’t wait to get home.
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I bought a limited edition vinyl LP that was released for Record Store Day earlier this year. Each album was hand numbered. It was widely reported that there were 1500 copies pressed. I got number 1913. It still plays just as well. The number just isn't that important, but it would be nice to have 7374 as the number on this box.
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My box has been shipping from Nashville to Houston since Saturday! It's so close I can hear it!
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Sorry to read that your box arrived with defective discs included. I hope this gets sorted out quickly and inexpensively. I phoned up UPS this morning, to see if they could tell me what time the box would be delivered, and was told the charges would be £69.18! Incredible. I paid it, though. The box arrived about 30 minutes later. It was much lighter than I was expecting, but it does look great. I thought I'd better check each show, to make sure all the discs were there, and that there were no horrendous scratches on any of the discs. Luckily (luckily-surely it should be a given!) all was present and correct. I have played most of the first disc, and I think it sounds great-taking into account a bit of instability on the first track or so-but nothing that worried me. The book-more of a booklet- doesn't look much-but it has another really good article by Nick Meriwether in it. I liked his references to the significance of the geographical areas of the shows-and also to Bobby Peterson. I was also pleased to be able to read something about the art work. It looks as though it belongs to a tradition of which I know nothing. Having said that, like direwulf wrote, the emphasis-in the Dead world-on matriarchy seems a bit surprising. But that's not a bad thing. Overall, I am a poorer, but happier man than I was this morning.
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I just checked and we have 3 discs that have scratches on them I’ll play them and get back to you. Other then that we are incredibly impressed with the packaging and the sound. Perhaps the most beautiful box set yet from the Dead. We all had issues with the 77 Get Shown the Light and Dead.net took care of it without any hassle.
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really??? oooooooook. a missing disc = uber-pissed. the number of the box = matters not a whit. "it's all about the music" please let there be 19 clean discs in my copy. even if I get #1,324,734.
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The limited edition numbers and distribution are random. There's no feasible way for them to issue in sequence of the order placed unless each one was made individually to order. My delivery box had #3275 written on the side of it, but the actual box set is #1851 (and I was able to place my order as soon as I got the email, about ten minutes before it was "officially" released). Again, random. So basically, you get what they grab when they ship your order. That said, the number ranking has never phased me. As long as I get the goods, I'm a happy camper.
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We ordered our box the second it was available to order and our number is 14,365. So the numbers are random. Get a grip
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Just checked entire content of box after hearing of missing and damaged discs. All discs are present. Three discs have visible scuffs or scratches. One disc had popped off the spindle and is pretty chewed up. I have not played the damaged discs yet. There were a lot of defective discs in GSTL boxes and a quick and efficient replacement system was put in place, I'm assuming the same will happen here. I have listened to discs 1 and 2. If the rest of this box is as good as these then this puppy is taking a rightful place next to FW 69 and Europe 72. Keith and Bob are very prominent in the mix and playing their asses off. Bob in particular. He's playing more of a second lead guitar than a rhythm guitar and it's a revelation.
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Box arrived today, currently listening to 6/22/73 and it sure sounds fine to me. I ordered early, got a high number with a little symmetry, and am liking the sound of this release a lot so far. There was definitely a short adjustment on the first song or two until the mix got sorted out, but after that the sound is good. If all of the shows in the box sound this good I will be a happy camper. Reading these posts it is clear, some folks find things to complain about and some find things to appreciate. Such is life. I do sympathize with the folks getting boxes with damaged or missing discs, but deadnet does seem to make it right and that will hopefully continue to be the case. As Playing in the Band starts to take off here, I find myself appreciating this release more and more minute by minute.
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When I see bolo24 post I think of the 1970's E.F. Hutton ads. When bolo24 speaks, people listen...
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Finally get home and see the box from UPS in my rear view mirror as I’m backing up my truck and push the garage door opener and doesn’t open. Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!...of course no power in the house. Duke energy had equipment problems so as I sit here no music and sweating, wishing for power I said I’ll open it up and inspect cause I’m hearing a lot of DH complaining about damage so far so good
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Our box had three discs that were scratched. The worst was disc three of P.N.E. Vancouver B. C. 5/17/74 and the third disc played without issue. What a great show. I’m now checking disc three from Portland 6/24/73 which also has scratches. I’ll check back when I’m done. I do plan on asking for a replacement disc for 5/17/74 as we did not pay for scuffed discs.
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Stopped working a little bit earlier today cause I want to visit my mother who's in hospital 100km away from my hometown. Got a shower and just start to change my delivery address when a scream came from the front door - my box arrived. Additional taxes and UPS service fees of about EUR 51. Received shipping note on Sunday (!)- tracking number doesn't work as usual. Next day simonrob wrote tracking number works. Sort it out and he was right so I finally got the delivery information for today. Never got an item faster via dead.net. Hats off.All CDs are in their cases but haven't checked them for scratches etc. Ordered nearly 40 times via dead.net and had only one problem - the missing Dave's Pix Vol. 3. Getting in touch with drrhino and three days later I received a replacement. Whatever happened inside dead.net this time an A for effort. Have a grateful day and all the best from the Isle of Fehmarn JJ
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a question for FLAC buyers, is a .PDF of the booklet also included with the download ? Many Thanks!
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Because the box I ordered arrived safely and I have no issues (yet) with the discs. Everything was fine. Checking the number of boxes left, I still can't get an exact number, but it is just over 3800 units left. I think this box will sell out very soon.
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Sorry that my post came across that way to you. You have always seemed very reasonable here, so I guess my post is at fault. And, actually, I have subscribed to every year of Dave's Picks. His picks are usually not what I want, and the "blind" aspect does annoy me, but I still like feeding the machine. I actually much preferred the later years of the Road Trips period, but no one else liked them...
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One of the coolest things about this box is how our friends across the pond and far away are getting them often before people living just a few hundred miles across from the warehouse. For years we have been getting ours months before they make their way to faraway lands and not a yelp of complaints or bad will, almost entirely patience and good feedback. It gives me joy to see at least some of them get theirs before mine. That being said.. I did just get mine a few minutes ago. Beginning to unwrap it...... wait for it... exactly... now. #041880 has arrived at the station. Hey.. if you type it into a calculator and hold it upside down it spells hIBBO. They still have his picture It's hung on the wall Now he's just an old hIBBO Asleep out in the hall It sure is pretty.. hope it sounds good.
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I have had a crazy busy week, (and it continues to be,) so I have not had a chance to really get far into my listening of this set, and have only been able to rip the 73 shows so far. That being said, I did sneak some decent listening in of PNE 73 discs 1 and 2 today at work, and my-oh-my! I revisited the Bird Song, then moved on to disc 2. As others have mentioned, I love how UP in the mix Bobby is, and how well separated he and Jerry are in the speakers. I find that I am really able to focus on what Bobby is doing, and it is incredible! I've always known he was special, but his playing on the jams during PITB and HCS are just so cool! It reminds me of how Bobby cites McCoy Tyner as one of his major influences, especially the way Tyner chords behind the player taking the lead. Bobby is back there, keeping the rhythm, but laying down some bizzare and groovy colors of his own, creating that one of a kind sound. Jerry always said that no one plays guitar like Bobby... this release certainly sheds some light on that. (Again, I've thought this for a while, but the sound quality, Bobby's volume, and the awesome separation of the instruments on this has cemented it.) Oh, and what a PITB and HCS they are! On to disc 3 for my drive to and from band practice. Peace
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Yes Simon rob who will be The lucky 7374? or the lucky 000001 ? I received the box this morning, 98, that's my number, as i made that middle age crisis at 49, i would be happy to be 98 later... This box is a marvel the grateful dead zoo is increasing with whales, wolves, ravens and eagles, after all these years of crows, bears and turttles...Great art, congratulations.
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Thank MD Jim. Yes all dead heads over the world delivered the same day, and at the same time...but a few of them will go to bed now.
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Received mine...great condition. Inspected the cds and yes several are scratched. How? How do I get in touch with Dr. Rhino? Thanks.
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We have all posted things here that afterwards don't come across as we had intended. I did understand what I think you were trying to say, but it could have been worded so much better.
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5/19/74 missing disk 3. Darn. Plenty more to digest and will probably get a replacement before I even get that far into the set.
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