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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    10.1.94's Space into Last Time....
    ....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
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  • LedDed
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    They say...
    ...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
  • MDJim
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    I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
  • Vguy72
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    ....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
  • Vguy72
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    ....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
  • LedDed
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    "Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."
    I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
  • LedDed
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    First world problems... yawn
    This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
  • cheyler196
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    I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Will be receiving my box set today by UPS, just need to finish my day of work, luckily I get off at 12;40 pm and shoot to the dentist, my teeth cleaning and get home and hope to see my box sitting there. very excited
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Quite agree SimonRob. As my name is not Mr A M Azon I do not wish to dodge tax. But when the things are imported via UPS they offer up the duty on entry whereas when the deliveries come using international snail mail they quite often (not always) do not attract the attention of Customs. That's why quite a lot of us in the UK and Europe are prepared to wait the month or so for delivery. On a boring technical point my agreement with Dead.Net was for "snail mail" not UPS to be used. Now I appear to have some listening to do! And the whole package is a thing of beauty :-) Cheers
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Just arrived home to find a failed delivery card from those most legal of highway robbers, UPS for my PNW box set. Those dolts want £71.99 from me to release the goods....we'll see about that !. Now, does anyone know of anyone i can contact initially (GDM etc) in order to get the ball rolling ?. The fact that different fees have been levied for various purchasers of the box prove beyond all reasonable doubt that these morons (UPS) are arbitrarily plucking figures out of a hat for charging purposes. What a cluster@&ck !.
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I got my set yesterday and opened it this morning. It is really beautiful but very oddly, disc 15 from the Portland '74 set is completely missing. I emailed customer service, hope they get back to me soon. Anybody else have a problem like this?
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It is indeed disturbing that folks in England seem to be being charged varying/random amounts by UPS for import duty. I cannot see how that can be right. @marshie59: You state that "my agreement with Dead.Net was for "snail mail" not UPS to be used." Personally I have never seen a choice of international shipping options here on dead.net. Normally there is only the one option, i.e. International shipping. It is not stated how this will be done. Mostly it is by USPS and takes a few weeks, longer if the value of the order attracts the attention of customs. Sometimes they choose to use UPS for some reason. Delivery time with UPS is typically much quicker. As for sometimes paying duty and sometimes not, that is down to the value of the item(s) rather than them shipper used. Here in the Netherlands, I never have to pay duty on items like Dave's Picks but always on high priced items such as box sets. There are clearly stated values at which VAT and import duty are levied on goods and they stick pretty closely to those values.
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Likewise in the UK, I've arrived home from work to find an invoice from UPS for charges totalling £48.71! At least this amount correlates to what another person here has said they have been charged. If £37.46 of such is the Import Tax (it's shown as Import VAT on the invoice), then I guess there's not a lot I can do about that one. BUT what the hell are the brokerage charges of £11.25???!!! Like others, I've already paid postage to the UK of $53.99, roughly £41.42 (at current rates).The total postage and charges is therefore going to be approx. 50% of the price of the box itself!!! Has anybody reached out to dead.net, or got an answer from them. If I'd have known about these additional charges.....!
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Last years big box (cornell 77 etc) came via snail mail and did not get "dutied". Bye the bye last time Deadnet used UPS to UK ( an early Dave) they held up their hands and admitted it was an error and made a refund. It might have only been the brokerage - can't quite remember
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This is what (in this case) UPS charge for doing the work of the customs for them. The amount is an additional charge above the import duty. However, here in the Netherlands (and probably in most other countries), if a package enters the country and duty is levied by the customs themselves, they also add their own administrative charge on top of the duty. It is not only UPS who add on such charges, governments do it as well. Ain't nothing for free these days in a world where everyone is a thief. Sad but true department.
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Your comments about newbies and their "ignorance" were made in such a condescending manner that the context is irrelevant. You're just a jackass for talking down to people who aren't as Deader than Thou. The fact of the matter is that there ARE more and more people coming across this music for the first time (in no small part to Dead & Co), and they're used to better quality than what these archive tapes often provide. Instead of insulting them, why don't you kindly explain the backstory of these tapes and provide some links. Better yet, since you are so interested in having them aboard for their financial contribution to the machine that provides you with so much personal pleasure, why don't you really put that burnt-out head to use, and point them to something that sounds a little more like a common commercial release from a band, like Get Shown The Light.
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Recently (since Warner has taken over handling orders?) the value on the customs declaration on packages has been stated as $1. This first came to my attention with my order for the "Get shown the light" box which cost $139.98. Instead of the postman delivering the package he delivered a letter from the Dutch customs which asked me to provide proof of the value of the package. Unfortunately they were unable to give me any details about the package whatsoever, but luckily it was the only international order that I was currently awaiting. As well as having to fill out a customs form which threatened all sorts of dire consequences for stating incorrect information (bearing in mind I was guessing what package they were referring to) I had to provide a copy of the original order where the value was naturally given in dollars and also a copy of my credit card transactions which showed both a dollar and a Euro value for the order. Subsequently my package was delivered after a wait of some two weeks, meaning that it was took more than a month from shipping to arriving at my house. When it did arrive, I checked the customs declaration sticker and saw that a value of $1 had been stated for this fairly large box set of CDs. No wonder the customs didn't believe the declaration. Not all customs were as savvy as the Dutch customs, meaning that some lucky punters did not have to pay duty. Again it really had little to do with "snail mail" shipping.
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Have indeed reached out.... but kind of not holding my breath to be honest... will update on here if I hear anything back
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I also found your post condescending and patronizing. I do not see how you are in a position to pontificate from on high about old-school Heads and people who, in your not-so-humble opinion often sound like they belong somewhere else. I am well aware of the existence of the LMA. I also have my share of downloads but I freely admit I never had any involvement with the classic 80s/90s Deadtape-sharing community as that was hard to do from Europe. I assume that you do not dare to purchase a Dave's Picks subscription each year because not knowing what will be released means that you cannot listen to the shows beforehand on the LMA or whatever to hear whether or not they are just exactly perfect.
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Received mine today with no issues and in pristine condition. I honestly can't say enough about the art, the box design, the writings, the Native history, let alone the music contained within. This is truly some of the richest cream off the top of the vault. The soundscape is special too, to my ears it doesn't sound quite like any of the other releases or box sets so far but is up there in quality similar to the earlier Winterland '73 box, which had previously been a top favorite. The clarity and presence of Bob's guitar has been astounding me as well, he is a truly wondrous guitar player... And to those missing discs from the set...check your cabinet legs too they may be uneven :)
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Well I live in Switzerland. Last Friday I got an email from Deadnet that announced that the box was sent on its way, expected delivery time: 4-6 weeks. But today(only 5 days later)- oh miracle - the postman was ringing at my door and brought the box. I had to pay 40 CHF (ca. 34 Euros) customs and other costs. But that didn't bother me, because the box arrived so soon, sent from England.Now I'm listening to the first CD, I dwell in beauty. Probably the most beautiful "Box of Rain" of all times (same was said about "Bird Song" to which I can agree). "Sugaree" has an unusual emotional depth, not so much crescendo, but many nuances...And the sound, wow! The width is incredible, already in 1973; hats off to the mastering. Every instrument can be heard on its own, Garcia's guitar meanders, the piano is dripping and sounds crystal clear. The sound experience is probably better than it was live in 1973 (except you were standing right in front of the stage). Reading the comments in the book about matriarchal tribes fits very well: the feeling/the female healing and enforcing the male. It fits all together. Long live the Native Americans, long live the Dead! Enjoy! Romeo Nathan Bumann alias Mr. RNB
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I thought that the number of your boxed set was related to when you placed your order. I checked out the website around 9:30am PST on June 12th and saw the pre-order for the boxed set so I ordered it. I received the confirmation of my order at 9:55am PST. I received the email announcing the box set at 10:16am PST. So my order for this boxed set was confirmed 20 minutes before the email officially announcing it was sent out. I received my order yesterday and I received Limited Edition number 08750 out of 15,000. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE. How can they possible explain that over 8700 people ordered the box set before the email went out officially announcing it. If that was true it should have sold out by now. I have always placed my order for the Special Edition items shortly after receiving the email and have ALWAYS received a number in the bottom 10%. WHAT BULLSH1T. I guess it no longer matters when you place your order. Order early and get a high number. Order was week after it was announced and you probably got a low number. WHAT BULLSH1T
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I thought it was interesting that they mentioned this in the book. Especially considering how the Dead was so chauvinistic and misogynistic. I can't tell you how many books I've read and interviews I've seen where all anyone from deep inside the family says it was guys party and the wives/girlfriends were not necessarily seen as "matriarchal leaders." The only person (if anyone at all) that I can think of this section in the book was for...is Carolyn Garcia.
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This is the fastest shipping in years, todays miracle has arrived!
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This has been explained and hypothesized on long before it agitated you. Short answer that is totally unrealistic and makes no difference. I believe the winning theory has been ...the cards are added to the boxes as they are brought off pallets for final assembly so the stacks of numbers on cards to be put in boxes is arbitrary as is the box it was placed in. They get pulled and placed, not really anything to complain about. Scan it and photoshop the numbers and print it out with a 1 on it if pleases you. I have also pre-ordered within the hours of announcements and often have been the first poster on the forums for the release. However I have received a wide range of number over the years...some high and some low. I think the lowest number I ever received was for the Europe 72 and I got an 81 or something like that.
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I can't even afford to procure one of these awesome looking boxes for myself. I'll take it if the numbers too high for you.
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Sitting in the dentist office for my cleaning and my RING camera alerted me and it’s was the UPS guy dropping off my box set. Can’t wait to get home.
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I bought a limited edition vinyl LP that was released for Record Store Day earlier this year. Each album was hand numbered. It was widely reported that there were 1500 copies pressed. I got number 1913. It still plays just as well. The number just isn't that important, but it would be nice to have 7374 as the number on this box.
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My box has been shipping from Nashville to Houston since Saturday! It's so close I can hear it!
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Sorry to read that your box arrived with defective discs included. I hope this gets sorted out quickly and inexpensively. I phoned up UPS this morning, to see if they could tell me what time the box would be delivered, and was told the charges would be £69.18! Incredible. I paid it, though. The box arrived about 30 minutes later. It was much lighter than I was expecting, but it does look great. I thought I'd better check each show, to make sure all the discs were there, and that there were no horrendous scratches on any of the discs. Luckily (luckily-surely it should be a given!) all was present and correct. I have played most of the first disc, and I think it sounds great-taking into account a bit of instability on the first track or so-but nothing that worried me. The book-more of a booklet- doesn't look much-but it has another really good article by Nick Meriwether in it. I liked his references to the significance of the geographical areas of the shows-and also to Bobby Peterson. I was also pleased to be able to read something about the art work. It looks as though it belongs to a tradition of which I know nothing. Having said that, like direwulf wrote, the emphasis-in the Dead world-on matriarchy seems a bit surprising. But that's not a bad thing. Overall, I am a poorer, but happier man than I was this morning.
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Is that a clue?
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I just checked and we have 3 discs that have scratches on them I’ll play them and get back to you. Other then that we are incredibly impressed with the packaging and the sound. Perhaps the most beautiful box set yet from the Dead. We all had issues with the 77 Get Shown the Light and Dead.net took care of it without any hassle.
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really??? oooooooook. a missing disc = uber-pissed. the number of the box = matters not a whit. "it's all about the music" please let there be 19 clean discs in my copy. even if I get #1,324,734.
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The limited edition numbers and distribution are random. There's no feasible way for them to issue in sequence of the order placed unless each one was made individually to order. My delivery box had #3275 written on the side of it, but the actual box set is #1851 (and I was able to place my order as soon as I got the email, about ten minutes before it was "officially" released). Again, random. So basically, you get what they grab when they ship your order. That said, the number ranking has never phased me. As long as I get the goods, I'm a happy camper.
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We ordered our box the second it was available to order and our number is 14,365. So the numbers are random. Get a grip
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Just checked entire content of box after hearing of missing and damaged discs. All discs are present. Three discs have visible scuffs or scratches. One disc had popped off the spindle and is pretty chewed up. I have not played the damaged discs yet. There were a lot of defective discs in GSTL boxes and a quick and efficient replacement system was put in place, I'm assuming the same will happen here. I have listened to discs 1 and 2. If the rest of this box is as good as these then this puppy is taking a rightful place next to FW 69 and Europe 72. Keith and Bob are very prominent in the mix and playing their asses off. Bob in particular. He's playing more of a second lead guitar than a rhythm guitar and it's a revelation.
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Box arrived today, currently listening to 6/22/73 and it sure sounds fine to me. I ordered early, got a high number with a little symmetry, and am liking the sound of this release a lot so far. There was definitely a short adjustment on the first song or two until the mix got sorted out, but after that the sound is good. If all of the shows in the box sound this good I will be a happy camper. Reading these posts it is clear, some folks find things to complain about and some find things to appreciate. Such is life. I do sympathize with the folks getting boxes with damaged or missing discs, but deadnet does seem to make it right and that will hopefully continue to be the case. As Playing in the Band starts to take off here, I find myself appreciating this release more and more minute by minute.
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When I see bolo24 post I think of the 1970's E.F. Hutton ads. When bolo24 speaks, people listen...
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Finally get home and see the box from UPS in my rear view mirror as I’m backing up my truck and push the garage door opener and doesn’t open. Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!...of course no power in the house. Duke energy had equipment problems so as I sit here no music and sweating, wishing for power I said I’ll open it up and inspect cause I’m hearing a lot of DH complaining about damage so far so good
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Our box had three discs that were scratched. The worst was disc three of P.N.E. Vancouver B. C. 5/17/74 and the third disc played without issue. What a great show. I’m now checking disc three from Portland 6/24/73 which also has scratches. I’ll check back when I’m done. I do plan on asking for a replacement disc for 5/17/74 as we did not pay for scuffed discs.
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Stopped working a little bit earlier today cause I want to visit my mother who's in hospital 100km away from my hometown. Got a shower and just start to change my delivery address when a scream came from the front door - my box arrived. Additional taxes and UPS service fees of about EUR 51. Received shipping note on Sunday (!)- tracking number doesn't work as usual. Next day simonrob wrote tracking number works. Sort it out and he was right so I finally got the delivery information for today. Never got an item faster via dead.net. Hats off.All CDs are in their cases but haven't checked them for scratches etc. Ordered nearly 40 times via dead.net and had only one problem - the missing Dave's Pix Vol. 3. Getting in touch with drrhino and three days later I received a replacement. Whatever happened inside dead.net this time an A for effort. Have a grateful day and all the best from the Isle of Fehmarn JJ
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a question for FLAC buyers, is a .PDF of the booklet also included with the download ? Many Thanks!
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Because the box I ordered arrived safely and I have no issues (yet) with the discs. Everything was fine. Checking the number of boxes left, I still can't get an exact number, but it is just over 3800 units left. I think this box will sell out very soon.
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Sorry that my post came across that way to you. You have always seemed very reasonable here, so I guess my post is at fault. And, actually, I have subscribed to every year of Dave's Picks. His picks are usually not what I want, and the "blind" aspect does annoy me, but I still like feeding the machine. I actually much preferred the later years of the Road Trips period, but no one else liked them...
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One of the coolest things about this box is how our friends across the pond and far away are getting them often before people living just a few hundred miles across from the warehouse. For years we have been getting ours months before they make their way to faraway lands and not a yelp of complaints or bad will, almost entirely patience and good feedback. It gives me joy to see at least some of them get theirs before mine. That being said.. I did just get mine a few minutes ago. Beginning to unwrap it...... wait for it... exactly... now. #041880 has arrived at the station. Hey.. if you type it into a calculator and hold it upside down it spells hIBBO. They still have his picture It's hung on the wall Now he's just an old hIBBO Asleep out in the hall It sure is pretty.. hope it sounds good.
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I have had a crazy busy week, (and it continues to be,) so I have not had a chance to really get far into my listening of this set, and have only been able to rip the 73 shows so far. That being said, I did sneak some decent listening in of PNE 73 discs 1 and 2 today at work, and my-oh-my! I revisited the Bird Song, then moved on to disc 2. As others have mentioned, I love how UP in the mix Bobby is, and how well separated he and Jerry are in the speakers. I find that I am really able to focus on what Bobby is doing, and it is incredible! I've always known he was special, but his playing on the jams during PITB and HCS are just so cool! It reminds me of how Bobby cites McCoy Tyner as one of his major influences, especially the way Tyner chords behind the player taking the lead. Bobby is back there, keeping the rhythm, but laying down some bizzare and groovy colors of his own, creating that one of a kind sound. Jerry always said that no one plays guitar like Bobby... this release certainly sheds some light on that. (Again, I've thought this for a while, but the sound quality, Bobby's volume, and the awesome separation of the instruments on this has cemented it.) Oh, and what a PITB and HCS they are! On to disc 3 for my drive to and from band practice. Peace
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Yes Simon rob who will be The lucky 7374? or the lucky 000001 ? I received the box this morning, 98, that's my number, as i made that middle age crisis at 49, i would be happy to be 98 later... This box is a marvel the grateful dead zoo is increasing with whales, wolves, ravens and eagles, after all these years of crows, bears and turttles...Great art, congratulations.
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Thank MD Jim. Yes all dead heads over the world delivered the same day, and at the same time...but a few of them will go to bed now.
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Received mine...great condition. Inspected the cds and yes several are scratched. How? How do I get in touch with Dr. Rhino? Thanks.
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We have all posted things here that afterwards don't come across as we had intended. I did understand what I think you were trying to say, but it could have been worded so much better.
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5/19/74 missing disk 3. Darn. Plenty more to digest and will probably get a replacement before I even get that far into the set.
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