Grateful Dead

Hi friends. Yeup, use that feedback button at the bottom of your screen. And we appreciate you not taking it out on me & MaryE.... and just for the record, I can't stream at work, either.

.......they sold their rights away for I'm sure a pretty "hefty" amount.

Greetings, I wish I had the ability to stream this site at work but as a trial attorney I am out of the office alot and am forced to listen to my Ipod to preview the music you upload. Up until today, you were actually doing a great job hooking me on some of the DP shows I did not already have. Alas, since I will not be able to stream, I will just go back to other online trading sites and bid this site farewell! Hopefully, those in control will be made aware of the error of their ways and we all can continue expanding our horizons right here. I think it is important to point out that just as the war on drugs has failed, this site will also eventually fail by driving those in search of quality Dead music to other sites and places where we can get our fix. For all of our sakes, let's not let this happen. Free the music!

hey dave the 4-7-72 china rider is sweet,thanks for posting that.cheers.

I don't mean to come off as an unGrateful Deadhead, but those mp3 downloads were the highlight of my week.

why? streaming is nearly impossible with a poor internet connection.. I enjoyed this so much and now I am left out n the cold?

Walking upstairs...commenting to my girlfriend: "It's Monday night! Going to see what David cooked up!" I'll keep it brief considering I'm not the only comment here. I can't see the point of this. Every one here buys Dead and associated music. This is just one of those little perks that comes along with being a Dead fan and a part of a more than gracious taping/trading scene. If anything, this feature spreads the music to more listeners and future consumers (as much as I hate to admit, being as anti-consumer as I possibly can). David, please find a way to bring back the old format. ^^^mounainzen^^^

Well As we know the tapers section mp3s are gone but take a look it also is with the gd hour archives as well,I am for sure dissappointed by all this.I do have almost every release baught and still will buy no matter what.I too looked forward to Mondays each week but deep down new the Free Mp3s would not last,I always felt from the begining it was a matter of time,Hank

I just came back from Copenhagen today, drove 800 kilometers, and here I am, 4 o'clock in the morning Tuesday, looking for my Monday Inspiration. I bought 10 cd's today, talked to the shopkeepers, and we discussed how everyone in the business could learn something from you guys , but now I feel bad about promoting this site. Yes, we are nerds, I got something like 300 vinyls and cd's with the dead, and lots of other stuff. And what did this site do, it brought me back on the buying track. I slowed down after DP 21 or something, considered it and said that's enough, but in the last months I have started buying again. The Downloads were inspiring, fx you listen to some cool 76 stuff here and then go to a shop or order via the internet, Cow Palace 76. You were THE ALMOST PERFECT BROTHERS, and hopefully you'll consider this move again. A few years ago it was possible to download specials on bobdylan.com and lots of people I know used it, and you know what: It made us even bigger fans and buying more. Oh, now I just remember what one of the shopkeepers said to me today, when I did put my records on the desk, looking at my wallet he said with a big smile: Uhhh, that's tough men to know. You get it or what, Rhino. And another thing, Rhino, Everything should be in digipacks with good booklets. That way our kids will be glad some day. No one will feel something special for DP 36 in 2040, just music you can put on your ipod or something, but digipacks, booklets etc will make it like techno cars in a collector's world. Please believe me, and then bring David's Picks in superior packaging. LATVALA! Ole

sorta feels like being grounded...:(

I am just going to echo what others said and politely request the reincarnation of clips posted in .mp3 format. A lot of us that are truly dedicated have counted on this spot as part of our weekly ritual. We all go out and buy the real deal when it comes out too. Pretty please?

I, for one, am grateful for this site and for the content it provides regardless of the format. That said, would it be possible to continue providing *members* with the preferred "mp3" format and leave streaming for the rest of the world? Also, I suspect that an email sent to members informing them of coming changes would have lessened the shock/reaction factor currently displaying in peoples comments. Curiously, these changes were not even mentioned in the introduction for this weeks "Taper's Section"... (not at the top anyway) and so it was rather shocking to the system. Furthermore, as a tech-savvy person, I have not yet managed to actually play any of the streams and cannot seem to connect to the server. I am certain that this is not an issue on my end and it would seem that we have all been left entirely in the dark (no pun intended). Those responsible are far removed from the entire issue and see only the dollar sign that seems to be the finite recurring theme plaguing everything in the world today. Sales people by profession sell their hearts and souls for short term gain blinding themselves to the longer term. As a member and contributor to the content on this site, I also have spent far more than is even reasonable by majority standards. In other words, I have the original releases, the boxed sets and everything in between as well as a few hundred gigs of concerts in ".mp3" format. Then again, I also recently places bids in excess of one thousand dollars on the sale of items from the Garcia estate. What is the effect of one on another? For a deadhead, there isn't one. Additionally, for every countermeasure will be multiple counter-countermeasures. This means that anything that I stream on the web can be recorded and encoded into the preferred ",mp3" format using "free" third party software. In short Rhino, we can do this the fun and easy (symbiotic) way... or the hard way. This of course is up to you. Let us see if those in suits can for once "work" for their commissions and understand the true nature of their own product. This has been sent also to the "Feedback" submission form. Thanks to Dsvid and to those @ www.dead.net! Not-so-much Thanks to those @ Rhino... you clearly don't understand the nature of your assets and the optimal/appropriate ways you *could* market them. Feel free to contact me and I'll hand it all over... for free! Cheers, Rob It all rolls into one and nothing comes for free. There's nothing you can hold for very long and when you hear that song come crying like the wind, it seems like all this life was just a dream.

What a bum trip guys. This is definitely the unhippest. Thre wasn't even music I could not stream from this week in Dead history, and I was really looking forward to the Oregon 93 shows for some tid bits. I am sure this will be up in iTunes pretty soon, in their less than flattering format. Eric S. Crane

What the F(*&(*&^... pull the plug on the archives, now pull the plug on this? GREED!!!!Come on, we have really been enjoying this. Nobody is doing anything other than enjoying. I burn a cd to listen in my car and put mp3 on my headphones to listen at the gym. I guess we need to PAY, PAY, PAY....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The new organization SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's ALWAYS about the $$$$$$. Greed kills! Bring back the downloads.....please.

QUIT BUYING EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING RHINO RELEASES FROM NOW ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Well Monday is just another day now huh!!!Rogue

Not much more can be said than what has already been said. Yea, I came looking for the fix and was going to update my SD card for use in my daily commutes. As was said, with a little effort it would be possible to simply record each individual stream. That is obviously not the point. So much music, so little time. I'm resigned to the fact that given the way I live and work, I'll never get to hear and record all that is available. This was a nice easy way to get a nice sampling. ...One more voice calling you.. and it's not mamma callin

Too funny... hundreds of posts in 1 day. It is pretty apparent that this is a huge mistake. Rhino WILL kill the legacy of the Grateful Dead if this continues. Listen to the people... they are the only ones who keep the Grateful Dead alive. - The Reverend

I guess it was too good to be true. I am pretty upset that I can't save the songs to my computer and then listen in my truck. Catch_the_Calico

Please note that beginning today all Deadheads are avoiding this page which is now served via a new media player in both Windows Media Audio and QuickTime Audio formats, neither of which work very well. | I'm just a, well...porpoise. |

Ditto Uncle Bruce. Listening to these gems on some dinky computer speakers is not how I want to hear 'em. I guess the mp3's was too much of a good thing.....first you take away the ability to download sbds from archive.org, now this!.....what happened to getting good quality recordings out to the masses?! Even the purchasable downloads have been few and far between.......What's the deal!

Not to beat a dead horse but... PLEASE bring back the mp3s. Thanks.

Obviously everyones disappointed with this move. I'm beginning to think the Dead selling the catalog distribution to Rhino was a mistake. If they would listen to the fans and release new product quarterly throughout the year then this debacle could be rectified. One or two so so vault releases and rehashed rereleases over the last couple years is the wrong business decision with so much great stuff. MP3s really don't matter all that much to me personally but the lack of new product does. Going from 3 Dicks Picks, monthly flac downloads and a couple multitrack releases a year to what is being made available now is quite disappointing from a person who fits a key demographic for this merchandise.

"Once we play we the music on stage, it is their music to keep anyway" - Jerry Garcia.

In response to: -------------------------------------------------- On August 20th, 2007 littlejer said: Not to beat a dead horse but... PLEASE bring back the mp3s. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------- Well, but the horse is a glutton for punishment. ;)

Anybody have the download files from this week August 6 - August 12? I was on vacation...thanks for the warning Rhino!

David, thank you for all the fine music you have given us. Rhino, get it together, why do you want to piss off the Deadheads? You just drove away some of your potential customers. Someone who is one of us and understands us should be in charge. I listen to the mp3s and have spent money on the band since 1972. I have GD and individual member efforts in many formats. Have spent lots of $ on official releases on Warners, GD records, Round, Arista, GDP and on the GD boxsets and latest GD that Rhino put out. Also have bought lots of the Rhino releases of many other artists. Having free music availible didn't change my purchase of the official releases over the years. This site has been lots of fun for the past several months. Why spoil it? You were building on the base and now you are destroying it. You will still get your $ if you use mp3. I hope that tomorrow I click on this site and read " We made a big mistake, sorry". Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On August 20th, 2007 dawg440 said: Anybody have the download files from this week August 6 - August 12? I was on vacation...thanks for the warning Rhino! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do have these files. The question is, what is the capacity limit on your email account? I think mine is 10 megs unfortunately. I would dare not post the ".mp3" files themselves on the web as I am now left to speculate on the legality of my being in possession of them. If this concern sounds slightly exaggerated it's because it probably is. I am just wondering if Rhino is more interested in an old (by old I mean young, 31 here) "deadheads" continued blind and devoted loyalty who has spent enough of the green to fill his own "vault" (and yes indeed, I have a temperature controlled secure "vault" and maintain my claim of not being necessarily "materialistic") or the possibility of cashing in on a new generation of heads to be marketed in generations to come..? As it turns out, it looks like there is a Rhino in the room and it needs to be pointed out.
One way or another this darkness got to give.

Man, they could have Taper's Section as a monthly thing, as long as one can download! Dang, we're not talking about 3 minute pop songs here! These tunes need to be digested over time, only downloading will do. Well, I guess it was good while it lasted. What a bummer. Greedheads rule the day. Rhino is really playing with fire here; it's bad karma to burn a deadhead. Yo Soy Boricua!

This whole "streaming only" nonsense is for the birds. You guys really know how to alienate your fanbase, huh? Good job, bozos. BOO RHINO!

..well at least this has livened things up around here..the forums have been a bit quiet lately ;-) ..good to take a few hours to calm down....actually I am still pretty riled by this, but well much worse things happen in the world There are of course many other ways to get the music if you really want it.....what really gets me here (and I suspect many others) is the total lack of respect shown in how this was done. All sorts of folks have been actively participating in and supporting the site, building up a bit of momentum, getting to know some friends, having a laugh .... it was feeling good! And the taper sections were a real part of that good feeling..... For whatever reason it was done..changing the tapers section to streaming only without notice, without explanation, with a cold announcement "Please note......" like a memo from the boss on the office noticeboard, well that's just downright insulting. It pours a bucket of cold water over the emerging good vibe and is an ugly reminder that the little world that was happily growing here has been a bit of a fantasy really. Even worse, lack of courtesy breeds lack of courtesy. This site has for the most part been remarkable in its instinctive tone of respect, kindness and tolerance....now this business has unleashed an ugly torrent of anger, abuse and bad feeling Shame

Rhino, get it together, why do you want to piss off the Deadheads? You just drove away some of your potential customers. Someone who is one of us and understands us should be in charge. I listen to the mp3s and have spent money on the band since 1972. I have GD and individual member efforts in many formats. Have spent lots of $ on official releases on Warners, GD records, Round, Arista, GDP and on the GD boxsets and latest GD that Rhino put out. Also have bought lots of the Rhino releases of many other artists. Having free music availible didn't change my purchase of the official releases over the years. This site has been lots of fun for the past several months. Why spoil it? You were building on the base and now you are destroying it. You will still get your $ if you use mp3. I hope that tomorrow I click on this site and read " We made a big mistake, sorry". Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself Rogue

... alternatives. There are far too many torrent sites to mention that have all of the DP & DL Series releases - in FLAC - for free. I used to pass over them, feeling it was the right thing to do. The next time Rhino releases anything, I will be downloading it for free and giving it away to as many people as I possibly can. Yes, I am THAT PISSED. These were mp3s for crying out loud! And for many of 'us', it was an inspiration to buy more official releases. No more. I actually plan on trying to talk people out of buying new releases and encouraging them to seek out live shows that are traded for free on the web. This is SUCH BS... Too bad nobody has any balls... It would have been great if someone - ANYONE - stood up for the heads and said 'If you will only let the music be streamed, then find someone else to do this.' But of course not... NO BALLS!!!! I knew this was too good to be true.... Assholes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This new format makes it impossible to hears GD gems again, as I can not do it at work. What's the reason for changing on a new format? Please bring back the mp3s again, I'd like to hear GD on a stereo, not a PC.

well lets review:first all soundboards are removed from LMA without any warning or discussion, then after a HUGE protest some soundboards are returned to LMA for streaming, now we have this cool move, corporate dead indeed. Well, after over 120 shows and years of being told the music ours when the dead finished I guess they have to squeeze some more money out of it to pay for their overhead and families. people, you can find the music out there in cyber-land, complete concerts for free downloading, soundboards shared by fans, seek and ye shall find my friends. bye-bye

that should be buy-buy

I can't go public with my source, but he's on the inside.

First off, David we all know this move is not yours. I cannot understand for the life of me why Rhino is holding back so much on the people who will pay good money for the Vaults music. Streaming this music is a big let down. Playing the music on good players and Ipods, cars has been great. Rhino has yet again kicked us in the gut. Took away the download seris, took away Dick's Picks, tossed out a few bones to the starving fans, markets us with music we have had for years and now this. Rhino has reached an all time low. I really miss the days when David was cranking out solid releases and we always had something to look forward to. The best part of the site has been victimized by corprate greed. "Rhino. please stop screwing us over" We are all sore enough. Jerry Garcias site has not been updated in years, nothing was posted for the days in between. To bad it has all come down to this, Jerry really deserves more then a half ass web site. This whole thing is off the chain. Well, off my box, had to get that out. I'm really disapointed that this whole thing is going down the tolit. Guess we all will wait for the next bone to be tossed.

Bare minimum, this section should be renamed as the "Listener's Section." Greg SC

>>Please note that beginning today all Taper’s Section audio streams are served via a new media player in both Windows Media Audio and QuickTime Audio formats.<< LOL, good one. Thanks for your efforts David, too bad that someone looks at our musical enjoyment as a way to make money.... Hey TPTB, try releasing some new music via DP or download series release the JGB reels!!!

This seems to not be popular decision, are the BT sites going to be next and we will be back to trading on a personal basis again The music belongs to the GOGD but it seems other people now control what goes and revenue. Are now going to have to pay for the downloads, if that is the case at least they can have flacs also. Bob w - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

...that beginning today I will never buy a RHINO/Dead-release again. Thanks for the past Mondays, but enough is enough. What happened to the old Dead spirit? I bought almost every Dead-release, which is difficult enough for a Deadhead living in Europe (shipping costs sometimes double the price of a normal CD). You can't always take, you have to give sometimes, remember that, dudes?? Thanks again to David, we know that wasn't your idea... Bye, bye! Or as we say here: "Es war schön...und jetzt tschüss!"

I'm still PISSED!I think this will go down in history as one of the greatest marketing blunders ever - right up there with "New Coke." But I'm reminded that one of the oldest axioms of the corporate world still holds true: People will rise to their own level of incompetence. or put more plainly: Shit floats. I'm sure Rhino will survive by ripping off folks who are too young to know better. But that don't make it right. You know that artwork from Europe '72, the guy sticking the ice cream cone in his forehead? That should be the new corporate logo for Rhino. The new slogan? -- Rhino Records, still flinging poo after all these years.

Too bad. Another big slap in the face from Rhino. I guess after what's transpired over the last year and a half I shouldn't be surprised. At the very least the taper's section was helping to maintain interest in a group that has been neglected and abused by those closest to the music. It was a nice attempt at repairing some of the damage done. It must be very discouraging for you David Thanks for trying.

Now, Monday mornings will go back to being Monday Mournings :-(

I, like others look forward to mondays to get my tapers fix and now thats been taken away from us all.....can't understand why thats happened. I thought these tunes were here for us to enjoy time and again without having to log on every time! Can't even put the tunes down on to CD.....BANG THERE GOES THE DEAD FREE THINKERS!!!!!

1. DAVID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MANY TIMES OVER. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE DAVE'S PICKS #1 2. PLEASE OFFER A LOSSLESS FORMAT FOR DOWNLOAD. OR WINTERLAND 1973!!! OR THE AFOREMENTIONED. I WILL PAY. 3. A LITTLE SAD BUT AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE MANY WEEKS OF GENEROSITY.

Please bring back old format.........I don't listen to music on a PC! I always looked forward to Mondays to get those 3 cds worth of music to jam to in the studio!!!I appreciate what you do...but can't do anything w/ this new format. Please reconsider this change. Bummin' in Cincy