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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • RobbZ
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    1989 Recommendation
    Not sure why, and probably listen to it a bit more than I should, but July 4th, Buffalo has always been a favorite of mine.
  • RobbZ
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    Sports?? I’ll watch/wager on just about any sport. However, I closely follow the NHL and College Football equally (viewing depends on who is playing whom on any given evening). Then the NFL, College Basketball, The NBA, Boxing (was the Mayweather-McGreggor fight boxing?) the CFL, and lastly Baseball. Now don't get me wrong about baseball because it's last on my list...I grew up in Cleveland, minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and watched & cheered many Indian greats such as Ray Fosse, Gaylord Perry, Lenny Barker, Albert Belle, Rick Manning, Mike Hargrove, Super Joe Charboneau, Buddy Bell, and Toby Harrah to name a few. Now a bit later in life, I just prefer a faster game, with an actual clock ending the game. I can't spend 5 or 6 hours watching a baseball game anymore....It's me, not you...LOL @The Outer One…I was actually tuned in last night to the opening of the CFL season, but that lightning delay lasted until I went to sleep. But you can bet I’ll be following the season this year as it progresses…including the Manziel saga in Hamilton. Johnny won me an ass-load of money when he played with A&M…I still talk about that Bama game…LOL @Vguy72…did you not mention the Knights/NHL in your sports post? Blasphemy!! I drove down from Utah three times last season to watch the Knights, would have gone more games but as the season progressed they got better and better and tix were getting expensive. In the mean time I watch the Utah Grizzlies…LOL
  • Thats_Otis
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    Happy Friday, DeadLand!
    Here's a little something special from this day in Grateful Dead history - 6/15/85 Greek Theater https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-15.oade-schoeps.sacks.24586.sbeok.f… The AUD sounds really nice too. Perhaps more famous is 6/15/76, which I am enjoying right now, but that 85 Greek show is something special! TONS of energy, and perhaps one of Garcia's finest ballad moments on "She Belongs to Me." His guitar solo is a thing of pure (American)beauty. Hope everyone has a great weekend! PS - Love all the chatter about July 78 Box. Arrowhead is my personal fave - just a compact, tight, smoking show! I also really like St. Paul... aww hell, they're all good! Peace
  • Oroborous
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    Thanks, another great story!
  • Oroborous
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    Right on 80sfan!
  • Oroborous
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    BASEBALL; I would of died for baseball when I was a lad, was a pretty good player too, varsity etc.. But like all sports I sadly watched money ruin the game....I was a huge Cardinals fan (used to listen to them on the mighty KMOX) Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Joe Torrey, yeah baby. Dug the Red Sox too, but such heartache. In Wesren NY most kids at the time were big Mets fans, or worse, ahem... So like most things I had to be different, the outcast, the other one! Probably a part of how I came to be a dead head and identified with all you weirdos; ) 89; personally parts of 89 into summer 90, before Brenski started to unravel, is one of my favorite eras. I know that’s contrary to the popular belief of a small but prevalent group on here, but don’t let that stop anyone from checking it out and coming up with your own conclusions.... Alpine for sure, Hampton, 10-16-89 is imho one of the best releases EVER! Philly was awesome, really wish they would get those out. When they played California Earthquake right after the Earthquake it was as good as any big moment in sports, trully powerful experience, at least live anyway. Not as familiar with the rest, of course the Miami DS etc.... EVIL TWIN; thanks so much for the stories! Please keep them coming. That’s perhaps my favorite part of this site; hearing great stories, especially from those who were there during those earlier glory years. 78 Box; even I dug it and I like that era less than some others, like??? Oh I don’t know like.... 73/74!!! So psyched for this new Box. Mostly enjoyed the “Mickey Godchaux” stuff of recent years, really liked the RFK, but I’m dam near Sh#&&ing myself waiting for this one! I’ve stated before I’m not a “taper” or obsessive collector like some. So that influences my wish list differently. I would like to get all the shows I was at, some other must haves or interesting wierd stuff, and I try to get at least copies of all the “official” stuff. Therefore I am not familiar with these shows and at first glance the set lists are perhaps meh? But thanks to all y’all’s comments about monster jams, and after watching Dave’s chat, well it got through my thick skull that these will be some real beauties eh! I mean Late 73 has always been one of my top, if not the top eras, I just wasn’t familiar with earlier stuff and though I like 4-3-73, it didn’t blow me away like say 10-19-73....(although that HCS and subsequent jam are sweet!) In fact how bout the rest of the late fall tour in a box? So there is always that awkward period like Ralphie in the Christmas story where he gets everything except that —“redriderbbgunwiththecompassinthestockandthisthingythattellstime” —when they release something I wasn’t at, but this time that lasted like 5 minutes. Now hopefully Dave’s 27 will come soon as a diversion, because I don’t know how I’ll survive until September! Yee-gads Thanks to Dave and all the gang who work so hard to bring us spoiled, whiney little be-atches all this amazing glory, especially the full led sonically enhanced stuff. And thanks to all y’all that help enlighten us dilatantes to the finer ports of these shows. Happy Friday All!!
  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    Had a salad for lunch yesterday. I didn't get to make it myself, but it was delicious. It was a total cash grab though. They didn't really care whether or not I liked the way the radishes were cut into those little swirly shapes. And the way the cashier pressed those buttons on the register with no elan, I could tell his heart and soul just wasn't in the transaction. I knew by then they were just in it for the money. I shook my head in disgust but proceeded to sit alone and eat the salad - even the radishes, in spite of it all.
  • Oroboros
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    But being a Midwesterner, I would point to the Alpine Valley run 7/17-18-19/1989, as an outstanding representation of the boys from that era. And my touring had reduced significantly with the arrival of my three sons, so my knowledge of this era is limited. And Robbz, you asked for another story (sorry cohorts who have heard this one, here it comes again) there is a 'prequel' to that 1978 story. Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open with a force that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, wonder gal 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coaxes this old hall to dance with us. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw 'it'. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle next to the ceramic beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall (over us) to the stage. They put spotlights on him (as the Dead made appropriate musical anticipatory noise) and he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much. He and the bike were far below the lip of the stage, so the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage. Which triggered the explosion of Sugar Magnolia, complete with the dropping balloons. And flanking the Dead a gal and guy dressed in a diaper as the 'New Year' babies. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! Hey if you pull up 'YouTube', type in Dead NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, and right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' a couple of years ago and he clued me into it. And then I showed it to my 3 sons to demonstrate the old man is not full of beans or any other'brown material'. Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to 2-3-78 and another road trip to Madison, Wisconsin. The Dead were on a roll and this was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and Snow to start out and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel that will knock you into orbit. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia immediately said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and quickly retorted "we didn't ask him to come". Garcia looked over to me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then you came up to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes.' She looked perplexed. Then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! And now it is available in all its Plantagenet glory. I will always claim that Omaha show as mine. So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'. Forgive me and give me a day and I will conjour up my account of my first show at the Des Moines fair ground in 1974 (which is more in line with this wonderful Northwest 73 & 74 offering). This era is when I first saw the Grateful Dead and was swept into an extraordinary adventure 'on the bus' and have been 'enjoying the ride'. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
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    New story to me...and much appreciated!
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    Fall tour is well documented with the Hampton shows, the Nightfall of Diamonds meadowlands show and the Miami 30 trips release...but the Spectrum run (10/18-10/20) is really excellent. 10/19 is one of my favorite shows of all time. Reach out if you'd like a copy...
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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These are 45 year old tapes that were 2 track analog tapes. There is not a lot they can do to change the mix of the tapes. They can just clean it up and enhance the sound. But, the mix is what the mix is. I am kind of actually enjoying paying attention to some of the other instruments that usually don't stand out in the mix (particularly Billy, as well as all the instruments in that '74 show that has a stretch of about 4 songs with all the vocals very low). We are very lucky and spoiled that they recorded as much as they did and as well as they did. Even so, there are still gonna be some less than stellar portions of tapes this old.
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Is your uncle still around? Or, did you leave his dead ass there by the side of the road?
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I love their gold. It lured my uncle, God rest his soul. Nuff said :-) But it begs the question, how honest is a Denver man?
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Mostly lurker (a rule I follow says, "If you have nothing to say, shut up."), but decided today to put my head on the chopping block so you folks can kick it around a bit. I've had my own fun at Donna's expense in conversations with a Deadhead friend or two. But two things in her defense come to mind that I've not seen mentioned. 1. The consistency of what she tried to do on a given song, comparing performances, suggests she did what she was told or asked to do by the band. Doing it would have been a leap of faith on her part, but the tendency to take chances was integral to the Grateful Dead's DNA. 2. I know from experience that if one is playing an instrument, be it a voice or something man-made, the frequency range of the output of that instrument says much about likelihood of hitting that "sweet spot" where it sounds good and blends well with other instruments / voices (lower frequency output than itself in the "mix"). Hitting that frequency (the note) squarely is more difficult for the female singer because the target progressively shrinks as the frequency rises, and the result is usually hideous. Bonus comments (no additional charge): 1. Some have said she couldn't hear herself, which if possible (and with that massive sound system they had), could mean she leaned in closer to the microphone diaphragm to have a better chance of hearing herself (and adjusting). The result, if the mike gain wasn't adjusted, is she could have come off as shrill as well as sharp or flat. 2. There have been times where I've made notes in a loose-leaf notebook I keep to retain things I notice in GD performance recordings, where she's hit her pitch and sent it (forgive the pun) out of the ballpark - it sounded fine to me. That could be 1 time in 3, but still ... Ask me to cite an example, and I'd have to be home with that notebook to do it. Reputedly she was (and is) a professional singer who's made her living doing it for decades. She couldn't have liked the sound situation at live GD concerts herself, and developed her chops in more controlled conditions, so I'm inclined to cut her some slack. 3. If having idiosyncrasies of a voice like hers is the cost of having a recording with keyboard work by her late husband Keith, it might still be worth it (decide for yourself). The Godchauxs were a package. I really like Keith's earlier work on the mighty Steinway, including in this box set. 4. The trove of recordings we have access to doesn't lie - the problems are there. I have come to accept them as being a fact of life if I'm going to listen to this stuff. I'd rather have the recordings than not, and I can make my own jokes at her expense in private (but with subliminal empathy). So it goes ...
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I'll take Donna's few seconds PITB scream anytime, over Bobby's off-key minutes long screaming during Estimated, and his clueless, tone-deaf slide extravaganzas.
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kind of like the planets going around and around Donna-time Yes, she was hit and miss when she hit she was very very good when she was miss she was...
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I've had a wonderful bout of insomnia these last few nights and it's been an excellent opportunity for me to sneak down around 1, 2 or 3am, slip on the headphones, and dig into these goods. Last night I got to the last one of the box, Seattle '74, and I gotta tell ya, I was hanging on every snare-skiffle and tiger-lick coming outta those cans during that unwieldy raging monster of a PITB ... Shit, man. GOGD.
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If you aren't a Donna fan, it's ok you have the right. I don't mind her, listen to the looks like rain from 6/29/76 in Chicago is what I always say to someone who isn't a fan. Some songs have drop outs in the recent box set, that's ok they recorded them 45 years ago and probably never thought they would release them a half a century later!!!! Just exactly perfect as Bob use to joke about!! Is the amount of time Donna appears on the 5/21/74 46 minute Playing in the Band more than the 43 minute Dark Star from 12/6/73, when she was on maternity leave?? I don't know but I love them both. I am glad that we actually have access to this music in the quality that we do... bob t
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https://www.newburycomics.com/products/grateful_dead-american_beauty_ex… there it is. I might actually buy this, even though I haven't jumped back on the vinyl train yet. Haven't bought a record since 1989(?) Took a two day break from the Dead btw. Had a case of GOGD overdose with the PNW Box. Cueing up PNC '73. The last show left for me to hear. That show was one of the first really good tapes I got back in 1989(?). Time in a bottle.
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Thanks for the link....what a friggin racket. I have always wondered how 1000's of tickets and at times sections appear available on stubhub, owned by Ebay, could have gotten some many tickets before, or right after an event is sold out. I understand season ticket holders, from any given venue, get rights to pre-sale and is usually limited to the guidelines of the quantity of tixs, available. Miss GDTS
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Never heard her sing live....got on the bus in 1982. So whats next Pigpen's keyboard skills? Just thankful for the continued releases. Trying to think of any band, that have had some many archival releases since the Grateful Dead's demise, 23 years ago. I'd like to think each of us, has found a holy grail, to suits their tastes from these releases. Goes to show, you don't ever know. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on.
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Great shows! My favorite Dead period. Sound quality is pretty good. A bit uneven... just like a lot of shows:-). My box arrived damaged. Contents good, box crunched. Waiting for replacement
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This is a really upbeat song to have the word Blues in it. I never really thought much of this one until I saw the Grateful Dead movie, and there's this one part where you can see the guy in the front row singing wave that flag. Then I thought well there must be something here. Somebody on here turned me on to Road Trips 1976 version. It is really hot and was my favorite for a long time, along with one from the vault. Then I got Dave's Picks Volume 13, and I've been a 1974 fan of this song ever since. The one that's on show number 6 of the box set is really good.
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Previous posts to this thread report download issues. I waited a couple of weeks before attempting, just to let the mad rush pass by. Then picked a time-of-day when I expected most of Europe and the North America to be asleep. The big mother file came down it 40 minutes. I've hear about half of the tracks so far ... so good. Also checked the mother of all Playin', because it was earlier reported as being downloaded in a damaged state. For me ... a-okay. If like me, you've been waiting for web site stability prior to download, anecdotally, all is well. Proceed.
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I am really enjoying the 1974 shows. This 5/21 concert is top shelf. Jerry's not too low here! All I can say is Weather Report Suite. Definitely in my top five, possibly BOAT for me. I can't overstate the importance of turning it up as high as it will go. Is anyone finding versions of songs that you consider to be close to best of all time for you? I suspect a lot of people are digging the Bird Song. Minas welcome back.
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Really lovin' it so far. I am a show quality over sound quality person, so a glitch here and there bothers me not one iota. Only drawback is the degree of song repetition throughout. Though the "core" of every show is still different. The He's Gone>Truckin'>Other One from Vancouver, Dark Star>Eyes>China Doll from Portland, etc. So good it got me to buy the LST video on blu-ray. Gotta finish up Seattle & then move on to '74. Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile!
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For those looking for a physical version Dick's Picks 30 (like me) RealGone Music has it in on their website as part of their once a year sale. I've been looking for this on their website every few months (1 of 3 I am missing). So scored one that I needed. Hopefully the entrepreneurs that browse these pages give the fans a few hours head start...
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I am not even through the first '73 show all the way yet, but I am totally blown away. I think the mix is perfect. The vocals and instruments are balanced and each member is balanced as well. I llove hearing what everyone is doing behind Jerry when he's soloing, so this mix is spot on for me. This show is the dead at their absolute best, and this show is quickly climbing the list of my all time favorites. I'll probably spin it again after the first complete listen. That Truckin was insane, and there were 24 great songs before it. Bird Song was maybe GOAT, PLayin was spectacular, and as others have said, this whole show is infused with a relaxed vibe, but the playing is so on point. I cant wait to slowly make my way through this box. Thanks Dave and crew for this gem. It's absolutely perfect.
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Boblopes, throw a copy of Shanti in your basket at 3 bucks, you will thank me, ( but no thanks necessary)A Diga connection if you need a reason... And, cos Im behind, reprising a conversation from a couple of days ago where Donnas wailing was compared to Free Jazz...(and sorry, but Freddie Hubbard played mostly hard bop, not free jazz) for a free jazz comparison I suggest Linda Sharrock, she could out screech Donna anyday, and hubby, Sonny, was a great guitar player,category:free skronk!
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I'm a Denver man. And I'm as honest as a Denver man can be. How honest is that? Well [he shuffles his feet, doesn't make eye contact]: Pretty honest. Always trying. Never stabbed a friend in the back, well, almost never... But, you know, situational ethics and all sometimes test me, oh yes, test me test me. [Typically, I do not beseech the listener with "Why don't you arrest me?" I mean, why ask for trouble? Besides, it's LEGAL here now...] As Lowell George once put it, rock 'n roll could be the culprit, if there's a limit to my honesty as a Denver man: "Gonna boogey my scruples away!"
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I am happy to report that MaryE and Dr. Rhino made sure that my one damaged disc was replaced less than a week later. Thank you.
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Is it me or is there remnants of the riff or chord change that Jerry used in "People Make the World Go Round" cover that Jerry did with Merl (Legion of Mary) like the one from Pure Jerry Volume4 towards the beginning of Dark Star? This is my first listen for this show - so I will replay when show is over, but man was it Deja Vu...
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I know one of the joys of a Dead show is the "inconsistency" of the performances. However, am I the only one that is hearing extended periods on these recordings where the vocals become literally inaudible? Not the usual momentary soundboard mixups, or at the beginning of sets, but entire songs or multiple songs in row... It is frustrating. If a dead.net expert could respond to, that would be wonderful and I would be quite GRATEFUL!
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The Wall of Sound was a work in process and the recordings were a separate entity, so each recording of a show the levels were actually set up during the first song. Sometimes it wouldn’t be set “just exactly perfect” until the second or third song. Keep in mind that the people doing the recordings were most likely high, so in some cases volume might have been messed with later as in the three songs from the Portland show that they released on vinyl. Just think of it as part of the times in which it was made, a Persian flaw if you will. These shows were never meant to be commercially released, but they are historical documents and we are all Grateful.
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Given what we know about what's in the Vault and what they've already released, what is realistic possible next box set? Not including 30 Trips, we already have box sets focusing on the following years: 69 72 73 74 77 78 89 90 what eras or particular tours are most ripe to get the box set treatment (given that they don't have a lot of the early-mid '80s stuff available in good enough condition)?? My vote would be for an Fall 1980 acoustic/electric box set. It was a unique tour, a big success, and it had them firing on all cylinders with Brent now a fixture in the band. There's 25 shows for them to pick from on that tour. Of course, lots of repeats. But they could pick a string of 4 or 5 shows., or all 8 from Radio City Music Hall and be done with it. It would make a great addition to the box set family, cementing a great mid-career success story Of course it's already been documented in Reckoning, Dead Set, and Dead Ahead, but having numerous previous released didn't stop them from doing Europe '72 or Spring '90. Any other good candidates??
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Well Ricky, i am no expert, but i have been listening to the SBDs for years and it is on archive.org for you to verify yourself. it's the same SBD, but the box has a Plangent processed digitization of the reels, which is a vast improvement. it won't bring back stuff that isn't on the tape, like Jerry's guitar or vocals, but it does make what's there sound much better. doesn't Bobby sound great? most of the officially released Warner Brothers or Arista GD Live albums have studio overdubs to fix the mix flaws, Rhino doesn't have that luxury. maybe they could get the guy from Dave & Co to do some over dubbing for the next box ;) a check of the tape on archive.org would have alerted you, and others of the nature of the mix on some songs. the archive.org reviews talk about the same flaws in the original recording. Rhino is an "archival" label, which is a nice way of saying bootleg, in that they offer releases of material to "fans" that was never intended for release. as with most bootlegs the nicer the package the more questionable the recordings. are they perfect, no, would you rather have them not include the questionably mixed songs? isn't it a really nice package? even though they don't include it on the packaging anymore, it is still Caveat Emptor and the best they can do with 40 year old reels that are literally falling apart every time they play them.
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You're rushing the speculation. Give us all a chance to digest the new box first, please. That said, the best possible boxes are: Spring 1971 Fall 1972 (*must include my first show..) You heard it here first. Damn, there I go again -- decrying speculation, then jumping in first. After 61 years, oh hell!
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yes let us digest this new box, but we can play...Spring 71 had many good shows, Manhattan, a run of shows from Port Chester? Eurpoe 74 with full one full show from London Paris Munich. I agree with acoustic /electric dead set from 80 and it is 8 or 16 tracks recording?
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You are correct sir, she sounds wonderful on LLR Chi-town 6/29/76. I especially love her on that wheel sandwich of PITB. Wish there were more "Wheels" with her singing. She obviously loves that song!
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is my favorite Donna. The two years singing with JGB really helped.
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Hey @Crossroads, I too would love to hear several more shows from the source tapes that gave us Dead Set and Reckoning. Unfortunately, I believe I saw or heard several times that Lemieux reports that for some reason, all or most of the tapes that didn't make it onto the Dead Set and Reckoning albums were erased way back then. I'd love to hear different reports, but that's my understanding.
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My only vote for the 2019 box set: please no more 70s. To be clear, it's my favorite era. But I have enough 72-77 for a lifetime, especially since DaP has historically tended to focus on this era, too. How about a Summer (or Fall) 85 box?
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Whatever value and strength of argument you had discussing sbd quality was totally destroyed with your absurd definition of bootleg. Bootlegs are quasilegal releases of in this case music. Depending on the countries laws some things like live shows or studio recordings over a certain age may be issued without the original copyright holders permission though frequently mechanical royalties are paid. The RIAA likes to confuse things by throwing the word piracy around. Bootleg has never meant for an entity this case the GD that transfers possession of material they own to a 3rd party in a business transaction. Whether they originally planned on releasing it or not. Of course with the Dead you even lose that point as they have for years looked at ways of getting it out
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Loving the PITB from Vancouver '74. Donna singing tasteful background vocals. I think, "oh, I guess she can hear herself....maybe the return to the verse after the 1st break will be ok." Not a chance in hell. Instead, it's a blood-curdling parody of "soulful" female vocals as she screams her way back to Bobby singing. This sort of puts the lie to the "she couldn't hear herself" bit. She heard well enough to sing great background a minute before she screams tunelessly. Great spacey jam with Keith on the electric piano. Return to song with slightly less objectionable scream followed by tuneful background vocals. She could hear just fine.
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RIAA sucks why would i use their definition? i'm using it in this context, cut from wikipedia Bootleg recording entry. Other bootlegs may be soundboard recordings taken directly from a multi-track mixing console used to feed the public address system at a live performance. Artists may record their own shows for private review, but engineers may surreptitiously take a copy of this,[a] which ends up being shared. As a soundboard recording is intended to supplement the natural acoustics of a gig, a bootleg may have an inappropriate mix of instruments, unless the gig is so large that everything needs to be amplified and sent to the desk
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I got what KG was saying, "in that they offer releases of material to "fans" that was never intended for release." He explained this somewhat clearly.. Dicks Picks (I believe always two track or mono recordings) almost didn't get off the ground because Phil was so critical of the sound on some of these that they couldn't find anything that passed his cut. I'm very glad they worked out those kinks.. I get a lot of enjoyment from them. I am a big fan of 1985, but I don't believe they pass the muster on what they usually reserve for box sets. Originally they were pretty much all multi-track.. but they did let in really good sounding, well recorded reel to reel tapes such as Winterland 73 & 77 the returned Betty Boards, etc. 85 was recorded on cassette and/or PCM (Betamax) tapes. Of course 30 trips is a big exception to this also. I think we are more likely to see items come through as Dave's Picks, which is a continuation of Dicks Picks/Road Trips. That's the lower grade recording release mechanism. I guess this could change as times goes on and the multi-tracks get thinner and thinner. Just my opinion and of course I reserve the right to be wrong. Other opinions are welcomed. I do have an affinity for 1985, however..
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I think it's either 'pass muster' or 'cut the mustard', but not 'pass the mustard' (as you put it). As for the 1985 box, I'll leave it to 'higher minds' ;-) -edit- You still have and extra 'the' between 'pass' and 'muster' -edit 2- I'm all in for 1985 now.
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....that when the boyz were tuning into the '73 PNE HCS that they were teasing Help On The Way? I hear it. The PNE Playin' is better than I remember. And I remember it being fantastic. ....edit. Before y'all jump my shit, I know Help wasn't on the radar in '73. I still hear it though.
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Ooops.. speaking of higher minds. Corrected. I do like 85, who knows.. I was at the Richmond 85 run that became half of Dicks Picks 21 and I really like that release. Had a great time.. lots of break outs that year too. I could be wrong..
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I too would love some releases from years off the beaten track. I think the best way to do these would be how the 89 RFK shows came out last year. Give us a two or three show set. Or one with some filler, and see how many people eat the custard. Of course, you have to release enough to make the economics work. Maybe 7,500 would be an optimal run, but that probably doesn't generate enough earnings for a project. But who really knows? The suits do I suspect. *Dons hard hat for upcoming economics discussion.*
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At this point I have given each show in the box a quick listen and I like this box. There is so much material here that it will take a while to really digest the whole thing, but it seems to me that the sound is overall good with a few minor exceptions, excellent when you consider we are talking about 45 year old tapes that were never intended for release. To my ears this is prime Dead, there is not much I like more than that jazzy feel in the jams in '73 and '74, and this box has a lot of them. I went in chronological order and I can't wait to revisit that 6/22/73 Vancouver show, but the entire run is just full of musical gems. Over the last few days I have been finishing up the '74 shows and every EOTW has seemed particularly tasty, it will take a few more listens to sort them out and say anything beyond my initial impression that they were all stellar. It appears that I have one disc with a skip on Box of Rain from the Portland '73 show, hopefully I can muster up the energy to deal with getting a replacement, but I have been known to procrastinate on that kind of thing. In any event, no buyers remorse here, this is just further confirmation that I really like '73 Grateful Dead, and '74 too.
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9-5-88 Landover for a Dave's. 12-26,27,28-1970 Legion Stadium~El Monte,Ca. for a small box. ...my favorite Easy Wind... :o)
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