• 3,948 replies
    clayv
    Default Avatar
    Joined:

    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

Comments

sort by
Recent
Reset
  • unkle sam
    Joined:
    stick
    I agree, but it's been up there for a long, long time lol. The band gives half a performance, gives no refund, should be the headline. These guys ain't got a lot of fans as it is, and now they just lost a bunch more. What does 11 oclock curfew have to do with it? The entire situation was handled badly, I feel for any and all who got ripped off for their second set. And yet, nothing from the band, silence, take the money and run. Why? don't they all have enough? definitely not in the true spirit of the Grateful Dead. If they are truly afraid of the elements, why give an outdoor show? Save your money, buy this box instead, a lot more fun and you get Jerry and Phil too. Support Owsley foundation, that Allmans at the Filmore in 1970? Sounds great, they were a jam band back then too.
  • hendrixfreak
    Joined:
    best info on ABB archival release
    The discussion sez Plangent Processes & Jeffrey Norman are on the job, working from original tapes. The 1997 compilation was from 2/11 and 2/14. So 2/13 untapped so far. And unreleased material from 2/11 and 2/14. I lied: apparently July is the announcement of one of the three releases coming this year. I would guess that would be ABB, the band with the biggest fan base. But I'd be curious what else is coming because Owsley's tapes are so well recorded. http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/bears-sonic-journals-allman-broth… Did I just read that Jimi's Axis: Bold as Love is "good," but Dylan & Dead are "great"? Then again, I am hendrixfreak...
  • stoltzfus
    Joined:
    well, someone's got a stick up they angry @$$
    good morning, everyone my morning musings: 5/18/72: first set feels tense and clumsy. Second set is glorious. Jimi Bold as Love album: for years it was "ok, but overall, meh". then listened to it yesterday while doing things around the house. _yeah_. good stuff. Dylan and the Dead: found an old random CD of D&tD 7/4/87. GREAT stuff. I typically do not like guest artists, but this is different. D&C at the Gorge this evening. wish I cared. but I don't. at least there's no chance of a rainout. :) Anthem reissue coming soon. What will DaP27 be? if you need a palate cleanser, listen to Motorhead. "rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice, but to carry on"
  • cub
    Default Avatar
    Joined:
    Keithfan My Man
    From a Jerry fan So.. I was at that Dead n Co. mess in Camden on June 2nd which was purchased with funds from a cancelled Ft Lauderdale show December 2017. Well the wait was not worth it! Within mins. of 10pm Lights-On, Camden police were walking the concrete tunnel/sidewalk around the base of mud-hill yelling "SHOWS OVER - GO HOME" At almost the same time, however most of the paid venue staff in red shirts were getting conflicting information thru their coms and told us to "Remain inside, the show would continue". All said with a straight face as the band's bus quietly exited for hotel before any of us could get to our cars neatly parked just across the street. We were held in there for 1 hour! Some packed into the bathroom/vending area with NO return to the venues many empty seats. WTF was that about? Camden is alot of gypsy park lots $30 one day, VIP $70 the next. Zero for us cause we are from S. Jersey.(leukemia piss pot of deregulation) There was no reason to prevent people from leaving the venue except to keep others from the hill, outside. The lighting which was sporadic at best was mostly across the river in Philly n gone by then. I'm done with Dead n Co. (weak tea) No more shows for me and who needs em' with NUGS n edibles n legalization. The 80's Dead-Belt was a great alternative to college and Taper was a good fit for me. But when you don't make a single stage announcement to Bid Us Good'Night and just split the scene, well allow us to do the same. PS: I ordered my box too.
  • hendrixfreak
    Joined:
    Allmans & RogueDeadGuy
    Hey bro, the Owsley Foundation only announced that the ABB set was coming, plus two other release announcements, all in July. No preorder as they haven't actually launched these releases. However, it looks like a one-disc compilation is listed on Amazon, but no set list, so impossible to tell what it is. The ABB release from 2/70 is -- I paraphrase -- all the existing material from their three sets over the three nights. So it doesn't sound like they have complete sets. But if the ABB played (3) 90-minute sets (minimum) and the OF has only half that material, they'd have two solid hours. The 1997 release was 72 minutes. So maybe they have another disc or two of material? In any case, this will be Owsley-recorded original ABB on several discs. We already have a compilation from 1997, with more to come, presumably delivered as 2/11, 2/13 and 2/14 -- i.e., properly archived and presented. We're talkin' about a fresh archival release of Duane Allman and his boys opening for the GD at the Fillmore East in February 1970. Need I say more?
  • Thin
    Joined:
    This box is amazing - 2 boxes in one.
    So not only are the shows and sound quality amazing, but the box itself is as well. I just looked into this artists past work - I gotta say I'm intrigued. I'm simply giddy about his release. I would have been ecstatic if they just released the 3 '73 shows, then the other 3 '74 shows next year. But instead we get them together. THANK YOU Dave & Co for all you do. I'm listening to a lot of NON 73-74 until this comes out.... I LOVE 1973! Looser and jazzier than any other year. Anyone who doesn't get this will be disappointed when it finally sells out. Again, the box alone will be highly sought after item for years to come. And the 6 shows inside are amazing - an absolute gem.
  • daverock
    Joined:
    73-74 is okay by me
    Having criticized the potential size of this box-I feel I must add that this is a very minor consideration for me. The music is what counts, and I agree with Jim that 1973-1974 are for me very exciting years-even the mistakes are valid as they are part and parcel of the experimental approach that yielded such gems. So however they are housed-as long as they play alright-that's alright with me. I was also interested to read of release of the rest of The Allmans sets from the Fillmore 1970. Hope they come out on cd, though.
  • JimInMD
    Joined:
    Re: rdevil
    Well put. I seem to have more internal hype for this than it seems permeates through this thread. I suspect this will not be sold out by the time it hits the streets and I expect some added hype once people get their first complete listens. I get more exited over 73 and 74 then I do about 77. Less predictable, more exploratory and jazzy. It doesn't bother me when the miss the mark as they seem to just recoil and spring out all over again until they scratch that sweet spot. I had to run some errands during the lunchtime show on Sirius.. today's concert was 4/5/71 at the Manhattan Center. It reminded me of the 76 conversation the other day. Some liked 76 and some didn't.. (surprise). I think was the Ice Cream Cone Kid that commented on variety. I think 1971 was to 1972 as 76 was to 77. Breaking out new material and new equipment, testing new arrangements and by the end of the year they were able to make sense of it all and the following year was built on the accumulated strength. Like 68 was to 69, etc. I am very happy they continued to experiment and reinvent themselves and I am ore than happy to spend an evening revisiting these shows. I like the follow the progression and hear the learning curve real time. There's revelations baked into those early moments.
  • rdevil
    Joined:
    6-28-74
    Haven't been posting here much the past year and a half but felt compelled to sing the praises of 6-28-74. I remember the joy of discovery when I first got that tape many years ago. I'm a strongly opinionated "complete show guy" but DiP12 is among the best releases I have. Sugar Mags through the end is just incredible and the "jam" on disc 3 is just exactly what I love the most about this band. This really is what it is all about for me.I know that everyone has their sweet spot but I'm WAY more excited about this box than the GSTL box (not that I don't dig that one, I do). I just feel that 6-22-73 and 5-19-74 are perfect examples of the many shows that are much better than any played after the hiatus. It's cool with me if you have a different opinion, it really is. But seeing "6-28" just made me want to share my passion.
  • Angry Jack Straw
    Joined:
    Still whining about the rainout, huh?
    Get over it. 11:00 hard curfew. Well known. And not being treated properly? Good one. NJ is the biggest pisshole the band ever played. Totally obnoxious and abusive security.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

6 years 7 months

Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

You are probably right about most of your post.But one issue I'll never change my opinion about: the Dead were mediocre in the '80's and into the '90's (a great show was rare) and that is when their popularity soared.
user picture

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

I'm almost through the first complete chronological listen. I'm up to the massive Seattle 74 Playin', scheduled for tonight's listen. Wonderful sound overall. On first listen the 73 Vancouver has a better mix than the other two 73's. The 74's sound better than the 73's. I chalk that up to their perfecting the Wall configuration(s) in 73. True also the first sets have many repeated songs, but they are played so well! Every show has really strong jazzy jams that were the hallmark of 73-74. Most of the shows have a strong Bobby presence, which I really love. I love to hear the awesome wierd imaginative chords he plays. However, I'm listening to Seattle 74, and he seems lost in the mix, kinda there, but not prominent. Funny thing happened on the way home with my box. My box was delivered to work. I was on the train coming home with the box on my lap, and a guy sitting across from me was eyeing the box and said: "Pardon me, is that a box of smoked salmon?"
user picture

Member for

9 years 4 months
Permalink

compared to any other live shows in the 80s there were few bands worth seeing more than once a tour as most popular bands played the same exact show every night for the whole tour. now most of the SBD recordings of that time are flawed and because of the nature of the mix the flaws become accentuated, but a good AUD allows you to hear what the people in the concert heard and it is not as bad as the SBD tapes make it seem.
user picture

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

I saw the dead regularly in the 70's 80's and 90's right to the end in '95, and they were rarely mediocre. I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's. But musically show after show, run after run, they were guaranteed to be the funnest, best shows in town, over and over again. All those shows I attended people everywhere around me were bopping, dancing, swirling around if there was room. Clearly people enjoying the music. They grew and grew in popularity due to their allowing tape recording of their shows, massive tape trading, and a reputation for great shows. Then along came MTV's "Day of the Dead", and "In The Dark" with their radio hit "Touch of Grey", and that bumped their attendance up a lot. Some would say too much, as they began losing some of their coolest venues. That is the true downside of their growing popularity, the parking lot scene got way out of hand, and even when the show was happening inside, there was a huge group of folks outside who just came for the parking lot party. Mediocre? Hardly.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

A rare person will agree with me, so let's just say to each their own."bopping, dancing, swirling"...so what? It's easy to dance to any music with a beat. I listen INTENTLY to every note of the music - Jerry's guitar and how the band interacts musically. Not just the "funnestness" of it! LOL! Is that a word? Compared to their earlier music, they were truly mediocre in the later years. I compare them to their own best music, not to what else is out there at the time. It would not be hard to beat what was happening musically in those later years, but they could not compare to what they themselves did earlier. And by the way, MTV destroyed music. When they came onto to scene, music became showmanship and true music was lost. "I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's" Yeah, he was dead.
user picture

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

First of all, I completely respect your opinion. At the shows, I also listened intently to all the players, how they interacted, and especially Jerry's solo's and his singing. I surrounded myself on the floor with 20 friends who were all silently listening and enjoying song after song. The band continually changed, adding new songs, changing older ones, reworking their sound, and the 80's versions of the band were different than the 70's and 60's, and clearly not your cup of tea. I respect that. Perhaps they were still musically interesting to the careful listener, like myself, even in the 80's and 90's. I appreciated all the versions, and listened to each one.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

To me the Dead were all about the free form, experimental, jam music.At one time Garcia was the greatest improvisational guitarist. He just couldn't keep that up as the years went by and he got caught up in hard drugs, due to keeping the Dead going. Some people like the "songs". They are okay as filler to me, but it's his jams that I wanted to hear. Even the jams later on became kind of rote. I'm all into things like disk 2 of Dick's Pick's #8, to give you the best example. That is the greatest Dead ever, and they never lived up to that again. As I've said before, I wished they had quit after 1977 and Jerry could do solo stuff and maybe lived longer. He died trying to keep the Dead machine alive because he was employing too many friends and didn't want to quit on them. Anyway, I'll stop. To each their own.
user picture

Member for

9 years 1 month
Permalink

I dig '80' Dead, it's just another chapter in the book. Things can change with age and still be good. For example, I find that the ageing of Jerry's voice makes some of the later era versions of Black Peter just that much more poignant, and some of the '80-'90's drums-space sequences were awesome vehicles for some improvisational jamming and wicked transitions from space into whatever came next. And yes, relatively speaking, the Dead were the best game in town in the '80's, a decade in which there seemed little to excite me musically. As far as the parking lot scene, I dug that too - who doesn't like a big, mellow, party before a show? There did seem to be a little more of a frenzy about the scene later, but I attribute that to the increasing difficulty in getting tickets due to the increase in demand, and perhaps a lack of discretion amongst some of the eager partier's in the parking lot. Really the only show that I left disappointed was a '94 show at the Meadowlands in NJ, that one I left bummed. On another note, deadnet can't seem to decide if I'm a robot or not - took me like 3 tries to get that captcha to work.
user picture

Member for

10 years 1 month
Permalink

..on 5/21/74-every minute justified. I wondered, with all the talk of its signifying length, whether that would be its main recommendation. But its not-a fantastic jam is a fantastic jam, whether its 6 minutes or 46 minutes. I wasn't that aware of individual instruments during this jam-just the amazing wash of sound-but as soon as US Blues fires up, I find myself listening to Keith again-so maybe he doesn't feature so much on Playin'. After all that-now 10/26/89 from 30 Trips is playing. Possible the first time I have listened to an 1989 show this year-way out of my comfort zone. But it sounds pretty good. Nice contrast to the epics in the box-yin and yang and all that. Short first set, too-its just ended.
user picture

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

Wow, Harpur College 5/2/70 - the radio broadcast was the show I played over and over in summer 1972 and convinced me this was a cool band I wanted to see again. I loved the entire electric sets.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

9 years 6 months
Permalink

So Harpur College is the best show of all time? Well to each his own.Stopping after 1977 as well? No '85? So The Europe'72 tour was all just a waste of time and money. And speakin' of great boxed sets that's the one. 9/21/72,9/17/72,9/27/72, 6/10/73,3/24/73,3/15/73,3/16/73 none of this is worth it to you? As far as '74 nothing there either? Nothing in '76 or '77 Huh? And nothing at all in the '80's? I will say after Brent passed that was the end of The Grateful Dead.The '90's were horrific. Harpur college was a great show no doubt about it,but the BEST,nah. But that's just me.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

Harpur College, 1970.That concert was so amazing, Garcia was completely beside himself. I loved my bootleg so much that I tried to convince Dick a number of times to choose that concert for the next Dick's Picks. And he did! I got a letter acknowledging my input. Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One. Nothing better than that version. Hands down. By the way, don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything else was a waste. Not as good, but not a waste. At least not until after 1977.
user picture

Member for

14 years 9 months
Permalink

anyway, 5/17/74 strong show 5/19/74 potent show 5/21/74 first set is tasty interesting thing: listening to disc three of 5/19/74. After Saturday Night it went to start of disc (Truckin'). "huh? oh well. complete recordings must not have included the encore" I look at packaging and see US Blues. I put disc back in go to track 6 and there is US Blues. WOW.
user picture

Member for

14 years 9 months
Permalink

there used to be a coffee shop in Seattle called Sir Real EspressoThursday nights were GD nights many good times the proprietor always wore a Ringling Bros/Barnum & Bailey hat he played 5/19/74 at least 5 times over the 3 years of that one night he moved by trippily right as the Truckin' Jam went into NFA a treasured memory
user picture

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

....is a segue for the ages. But the best part, the BEST part is the segue from NFA into GDTRFB. And better than that, is how they end the GDTRFB. That whole sequence will never get old. Disc 16 is pure gold. And sounds amazeballs....I'm gonna put in on again right now in fact.
user picture

Member for

10 years 1 month
Permalink

It was my favourite show for years and years, from when I first heard it on a tape, round about 1988. Now, it seems like something of a final peak of the psychedelic years, before they concentrated more on songs and perfecting the more country based material. They seemed to start doing this during the second half of 1969, shorter songs interspersed with the jams-and this carried on during 1970. Binghampton seems like something of a final blow out for one particular version of the band. And although I think of it as a peak-I can't think of another show that is really like it. Its a killer alright. Incidentally-its a topic that has cropped up before-but I wouldn't say Jerry died because of trying to keep the band together. He died because he made poor health choices. Whether this was due to trying to keep the band together or not is open to conjecture. No one thing leads to us becoming addicts or to making poor lifestyle choices.
user picture

Member for

10 years 1 month
Permalink

I have noticed that quite few people who used to post on here no longer do so. Maybe they failed the "I am not a robot " test.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

13 years 1 month
Permalink

In the never ending debate about the "best" era of Dead, I think it is fair to say to each his own. But I would push back strongly on the idea that post Keith & Donna Dead was mediocre. It certainly was MUCH better than that. Now, there were certainly some low points ('83, '84, '86, and the last couple of years in the '90s for certain). Even then, there was some spectacular moments (Unbroken, etc). I think the Songs vs. Jams camp is easier to see. Jams camp is gonna say '69 is tops. No later than '74. Songs camp will say later. Bobby thinks '89-'90 was tops for many the songs, and I tend to agree with him on a lot of tunes. Certainly, there was much better variety in the 80's with less repetition. Maybe lost some jamming, but anyone who listens to the Hornsby era and says no interesting jams is not paying attention. Ditto late Brent. I will say that the quality of the mixes declined a lot in the 80's. That is no in dispute. Get a good AUD tape (or a matrix) and you are better off than with a SDBD.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

As I mentioned earlier, having paid UPS a ransom to get them to release my box, I subsequently received an invoice from them for the same amount in the post. Amongst other things it said that this amount should be paid immediately and threatened sanctions and surcharges if I failed to do so. Today I called UPS customer service to hear what they had to say about it. It only took 12 minutes on hold to get through to a human. The friendly woman on the other end of the line was quite happy to explain that I had indeed already paid and didn't have to pay a second time and that the invoice was purely for my personal bookkeeping. She also added that the wording on the invoice is "confusing". Right. Why send an invoice when a receipt would have been somewhat more appropriate?
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

What a trip.. My guess is if we ever got to the bottom of it, the letter was generated by an eager, yet ill equipped person trying to work their up at UPS International, most certainly having the title Financial Analyst II. Their resume now reads, "Targeted and developed outreach program that identified for collection €13M from Import Duty avoiding hippies." Hopefully by the year they will reach their lifetime ambition of being a Financial Analyst III. We can only hope... ________________ Did someone mention Dicks Picks 8, Harpur College? Yes.. a worthy a show, incredible. I'd imagine it periodically floats to the top on lots of peoples favorite show list. It's currently half-played on my phone (which I use in my truck).. currently on pause in the middle of It's A Mans, Mans, Mans World. .but it wouldn't mean nothing, nothing, ..without a woman or a girl. Love that tune.. love that show. Explosive.
user picture

Member for

9 years 4 months
Permalink

could it be a faulty translation from US english to EU english?
user picture

Member for

16 years 8 months
Permalink

After paying $ 63.98 for shippimg and handling when ordering, I had to drive two hours to the next UPS depot and pay about $ 70 for tax and UPS fees to get my salmon box. That's really a lot, I think, for even this box. (And by the way: Though liking 73 and 74 a lot, but so many songs without vocals is no fun at all. Sorry.)So to those in command: please, please, please no UPS morning glory delivery no more, please never ever! Nevertheless looking forward to the next Dave's Picks, the 2019 subscription and the next 2019er big box.
user picture

Member for

7 years 7 months
Permalink

..sort of. If you need a break from the box and want to try something different, this show's unique (oxymoron I know... but). It's a Charlie Miller, relatively recently seeded show (less than two years ago). There are two unknown guests sitting in, a sax player and a fiddle player. Listening to the interplay on Dark Star, they seem to have a deep understanding of the music. We wouldn't hear noises like this on Dark Star until the midi days 20 years later. As an added bonus, the sound is quite good for the era - definitely release worthy. David Gans brought it up on The Golden Road yesterday which piqued my interest. https://archive.org/details/gd1969-08-03.137365.sbd.miller.eaton.flac24… 08/03/69 Family Dog at The Great Highway - San Francisco, CA Set 1: Hard To Handle Beat It On Down The Line Hi Heeled Sneakers High Time Mama Tried Dark Star Alligator Drums Alligator Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) And We Bid You Goodnight ok.. back to our regularly scheduled 1973 and 1974 flavored programming.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

Indeed there are sometimes enormous differences between US English and EU English but no, this invoice was entirely in the Dutch language. It is apparent to me that something went catastrophically wrong during the development of the Dutch language, making it nigh on impossible to express things as one would like to. Even most Dutch people seem to have great difficulties with it. The grammar is mostly impossible for mere mortals to master. Hey, didja see that I slipped in a cool bit of alliteration there? And on a Monday, too.
user picture

Member for

7 years 8 months
Permalink

Which are, of course, Purple, Priest, and priorities. Saw Purple and Priest last night with some band called, The Temperance Movement. Amazing, amazing singer like a young, snarly Chris Robinson. Decent band, could use better songs. Next was Priest. I say they are tighter without tired, old-ass Glenn Tipton. Richie Faulkner is a metal god. At 67, Rob Halford has lost absolutely nothing, and he stands as the finest metal singer of all-time. There is absolutely no arguing that point. At 73, Deep Purple's Ian Gillan has lost much of the power he commanded right on through the 1980s. He was a shrieker for the ages. However, he uses what voice he has left wisely and he delivered a fine performance. People say his voice is shot, well, no, that would be Ian Anderson and Don Dokken. I now accept Steve Morse into the band. The only knock being, he isn't Ritchie Blackmore. Ritchie can't play his way out a wet paper bag these days. He's even more faded than Ian Gillan. It has to be said, Ian Paice remains a monster. My God, how he still flies around the top of that Paiste kit is a thing to behold. Oh yeah, last, priorities: if your priority is to avoid endless postal/shipping hassles on official Dead releases, move to the United States.
user picture

Member for

15 years 9 months
Permalink

Excellent Book, much better than the movie, though I like the grundgy movie and Daryl Hannah is hot as Pris and Rutger Hauer was an awesome villian... LedHed, never heard of the 3P's - Back in my college concert production days we used 7 P's: Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance Sorry to hear that you get to experience the "Stamp Tax". As the Bostonian in me that drives by the site of the Boston Massacre, the snarkiness in me says "payback' a bitch" - but only in jest... As KG pointed out, maybe worthy to get the digital medium. Just like last night's Family Guy, I am kidding, it's only a joke ;) I see the point of all people's comments (opinions/personal preferences) regarding era's, song evolution, jamming. I'm from the camp that wants the "creme de la creme" put out there regardless of era. I want the best recordings of the best shows no matter the lineup. I trust Dave in his deadication to putting out what's worthy while dealing with all the variables & requests he has to juggle while working a business model that will continue for years on end while letting some very worthy shows see the light of day. I forgot who mentioned the point of the Dead retiring after 1977. My Favorite JGB era is 1978 - I love Donna and Maria singing with Jerry. I wish more releases would see the light of day from that tour. The Capitol show someone mentioned a few years back was awesome. Seems like they're more into the artwork releases. I'd be psyched if they'd do another Pure Jerry run (re-release) so I could fill in the blanks of the shows I passed on at the time... I would love each and every show was given the plangent treatment. Still loving the new release but still stuck on repeat on the early shows, which is not a bad thing ;) Anyone make it to the hidden vault to get the golden key?
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

What's with all the international shipping cost gripe posts? Is anyone really surprised that it costs an arm and a leg to ship one of these things around the globe and none of these transactions are ever executed smoothly? Haven't you people read any Kafka? I'm willing to debate more topics than most on this board, but the peccadilloes of shipping firms international tax and fee policies is where I draw the line. Good day sirs.
user picture

Member for

11 years 9 months
Permalink

I'm gonna be broke this coming November...what with Nov 2nd being the release of the More Blood More Tracks box set by Dylan and on Nov 9th both the Electric Ladyland and White Album box sets will be released and of course next year's subscription payment will be due....this is why I can't retire yet!
user picture

Member for

16 years
Permalink

I just don't think people should come here to tell what to listen to how to listen. Music is an art form and is subjective. You like what you like let others like what they like don't come here to blast people.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 2 months
Permalink

I have the same issue with 5/19/74 and assumed it was just the source tape, but someone has posted in the latest "jam of the week" that the digital copies don't have that dropout. I have an email in to customer service about it. Have you found anything else out? Regards, Yusef
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

I am interested to know exactly what Kafka had to say about international shipping costs. As for the gripe posts, as far as I am aware, domestic customers have the options of standard or expedited shipping whereas us aliens have no choice. Normally international shipping is by USPS, the cost is reasonable and the shipping time is 2-3 weeks (depends on where on the planet one lives, naturally). Fortunately, these transactions are normally executed smoothly. Occasionally, for reasons best known to themselves, the powers that be choose to use someone like UPS. This results in a far shorter shipping time which most on here have praised, but the downside is that that shipping costs are much higher which nobody is happy about. However, everyone who ordered this box was prepared to pay that. The complaints posted on here have mostly been related to the inconsistencies regarding the level of duty levied by UPS in the United Kingdom and other ineptitudes in the UPS system. We also often see complaints from domestic customers on here who whine that there delivery has taken what for them is an illogical route and is going to take one day longer than expected. This is the age of instant gratification and if people do not get exactly what they want at the exact moment that they want it and for the price they want to pay, they will complain. That is the nature of the 21st century beast unfortunately. Toodle pip!
user picture

Member for

9 years 4 months
Permalink

It must be from the R Crumb edition.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introducing_Kafka domestic buyers had the preorder choices of regular or expedited, but preorders all ship at the same time so it's a waste of money to expedite a preorder. until the boxes are officially on sale they are willing to take the added fees from people willing to give it to them on the preorder to make sure it's working as an option on the page when it moves from preorder to on sale. if there hadn't been a monday holiday, i would have gotten my standard delivery on the day of sale, instead i got it a day later on saturday, which is usually an added cost delivery option. those VAT taxes, added taxes on the COD shipping fees and usury charges definitely make the digital option a more economic choice.
user picture

Member for

10 years 1 month
Permalink

Your comments would only be credible would be if you yourself paid higher international shipping costs than others in your country. maybe you have been reading the wrong Kafka.
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

If we're talking Robert Crumb, then I'll take Honeybunch Kaminski over Kafka any day of the week!
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

10 years
Permalink

My disc 5 starts skipping at China Cat. There is a visible scratch. I contacted Dr. Rhino last Monday and received an email on Thursday that a replacement disc would be sent out ASAP. It seems like the condition of the discs in these box set releases are getting worse and worse. The majority of my discs had fingerprints and small superficial scratches on them but luckily only one disc skipped.
user picture

Member for

6 years 9 months
Permalink

Does anyone know if the Eyes of the World from the Long Strange Trip release was remastered? It would be cool if there's a sound Improvement over the Dick's Picks 31 release.
user picture

Member for

6 years 9 months
Permalink

Which songs have low vocals on CD but not digital download?
user picture

Member for

6 years 2 months
Permalink

YIKES. Donna gets a little feisty here. Was jamming to the first Scarlet Begonias I've heard from this set and suddenly I get assaulted. She has her ups and downs.
user picture

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

I know that no Dead recording is perfect, but the Pacific Northwest seems to struggle the most in terms of recording quality. Numerous cuts have the vocals almost complete absent. Others have the guitar almost inaudible while the piano and drums are out front. Like I said, no Dead recording is perfect, but this seems to be the most inconsistent box set I remember; and I have them ALL. Anyone else feel this way, or am I just being too picky?
user picture

Member for

6 years 11 months
Permalink

She howls on that one like she sat on the remote control with no panties on. WhoaaaaAAAAHAHHAHOWWWWW@! I love her. I believe the people who saw them and said she wasn't loud like that on the house mix. Jerry wouldn't have tolerated it. Ned, guitar's low on the 73 shows. Some of it's still great, like the big Truckin and the Bird Song.oh well, what can you do. Better than nothin I guess. But the 74 stuff is hands down awesomeness with a bong hit on top. Theres a couple tracks where the vocals disappear, but it's like hearing an instrumental of Jack Straw. You're definitely not nitpickingbon the 73 shows though, that's a little disappointing in places to have Jerry so low.
user picture

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

....Skull & Roses was released 47 years ago today. And no Donna for those that don't enjoy an occasional nail on the chalkboard.
user picture

Member for

15 years 1 month
Permalink

The official GD calendar is not quite perfect. It was released on October 24th.
user picture

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

....hint to the general public. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 7 months
Permalink

Skippys Andoaragain has just arrived. It looks and sounds amazing, 3 cds, great liner notes, re-release of the year?Yep.
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 7 months
Permalink

I have loved Oar for 45 years, only now listening through the outakes I realise that in an alternate reality, Oar would have been a fine starting point for another record;: Workingmans Grape?
user picture

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

When should we expect a new Dave's Picks? Mr. Pete--------> aging hippie
user picture

Member for

9 years 4 months
Permalink

November right before they announce the 2019 subscriptions. hopefully the announcement will include a new addition to the series of "Now with Plangent processing" or maybe announce a 2nd subscription series. Däve's Choice Cuts, the new Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series. THANKs for the reminder Dogon. Andoaragain is still a preorder in the US, but i'll have it on friday the day of release.
user picture

Member for

10 years 1 month
Permalink

Its a pity, what with all these vocal fade outs that Donna never seems to get faded out. Very strident throughout-she really comes in strongly at the end of Playin' on 5/21. Maybe they could have faded her out a bit and pretended it was a problem with the original mix (only joking). I've just been listening to 5/19/77, and she sounds fine on that. Shame. I don't think Bob is at his best vocally on these sets, either. A bit shouty-none of the warmth and depth he had in 1971, for example. Still a great release, though.
user picture

Member for

10 years 1 month
Permalink

I'm probably the only person on here who doesn't know this, but where do the bonus tracks at the end of the second cd come from ? Wharf Rat and Around and Around are presumably from the night before-but Not Fade Away? There doesn't seem to be any info in the box saying where they are from. This isn't a release I have played very often - something of an oversight, it now seems.
product sku
081227931391
Product Magento URL
https://store.dead.net/pacific-northwest-73-74-the-complete-recordings-19-cd-boxed-set-1.html