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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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    For any Gene Hackman fans out there... A great one liner from the 2001 movie Heist. Gene Hackman: (being reminded to get his change from a cup of coffee).. Money, it's what makes the world go round. Delroy Lindo: I thought Love made the world go round. Gene Hackman: You're right. Love of money. Sad but true.. It started a long time ago but seems to have picked up a lot of momentum with Gordon Gekko.
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    Either you edited your post between the time I first read it and when I decided to log in and respond, or I had an artificial hallucination. I thought I saw you write a line about "WHAT has happened to the human race?" and do not see it now. Anyway, I have your answer. The love of money above all else is what has happened to the human race, or at least the business end of it. I remember the days before voicemail and email, where it was always reassuring to get that voice on the phone to describe your problem to and clarify any misconceptions on the spot. Mostly gone now. Seems like around 1980 was when things started heading that way. Think back about what was happening around then, and you can get an idea why. About whether it's Fair? I'm not sure fairness has much to do with it anymore. But in all fairness, it's what you get in this culture now, not just something that happens at dead.net. I still have good experiences with some customer service departments though, but that usually happens when there is a voice bypass on the voicemail system to get right through to a customer service rep. I just got back from a road trip last night, and my PNW box is waiting for me to pick up with my neighbor across the street. I'm about to find out today whether I'm a lucky one with no issues, or another victim of haphazard quality control. Wish me luck.
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    Hello fellow Dead Freaks. I haven't been on dead.net lately, and I don't usually share that much. But I feel maybe I should share a couple of my thoughts and experiences with you.First off, The Box Set. I am sorry to hear that people have had bad experiences with this box set. But, on the other hand I am really glad to know that I was not the only person who has gotten screwed by purchasing this over-priced box of crap. I had to purchase the Box twice. And then I had to send it back for a refund twice. The first box arrived with physical damage to the actual box set itself. OK, problem No.1. Problem No. 2 -> by the time I gotten thru Disc 5 I had encountered so so many defects (skipping,etc...) I lost count and realized that enough is enough! I TRIED FOR 10 DAYS to get some actual customer service for an EXCHANGE. Writing them, and filling out the stupid Request Forms. Even received an "Access Key". Which "Mirrored Back" to me all of my email inquiries.(whatever that was about? Very strange) STILL, I was totally ignored and got nowhere. NO CUSTOMER SERVICE AT ALL. Sent Box 1 Back. Now, I have painstakingly collected all of the Box sets and all other releases thru the years. It has been expensive, and not always an easy go of it. Especially when you only have one option to obtain this music through Dead.net and is usually always in "Limited Releases". (I have been very blessed to be able to do so and very grateful.) That being said, I bought a 2nd Box Set. The same crap happened again! The box set was absolute junk. So instead of being "totally ignored" again by dead.net customer service, I QUICKLY SENT THIS BOX BACK TOO for a refund. Again. NOW HERE IS MY POINT. I totally feel left out here. This should not happen. There is absolutely NO QUALITY CONTROL AT ALL. Dead.net has really wasted my time and money. I feel as though I have reached a crossroads here. BACK TO MY MAIN POINT. -> "NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING ANYMORE". HIDING BEHIND EMAILS WITH ONE WAY COMMUNICATION IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO DO BUSINESS. It's that simple. IT'S JUST BAD BUSINESS. I also had to shell out $50.00 bucks out of my own pocket to return both these box sets. HOW IS THAT FAIR? So here I sit at the crossroads. Why should I buy another box set or any release for that matter when the product I am buying is probably going to be defective anyway? Why would I even consider buying anything online from a company that doesn't have any reliable customer service available to fall back on? A company that has nobody to talk to? Normally, I would not even consider doing that. If anyone at Dead.net cares at all about doing "Good Business" then they would realize that they have a Huge Problem that absolutely needs to addressed and fixed! The Customer Service that we as consumers deserve from Dead.net has always been terrible. This BS is nothing new. WE DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING AND CONTINUE TO GET FROM DEAD.NET CUSTOMER SERVICE. So I implore whoever is running the show at dead.net to FIX THIS PROBLEM NOW, BEFORE YOU RELEASE MORE UNACCEPTABLE DEFECTIVE JUNK TO THE DEAD.NET CONSUMERS. I want to thank my fellow heads for reading listening to this rant? At least I know that someone is hearing my concerns. I'm sick and tired of talking to useless people that just do not care and have no pride in what they are doing. I come from a generation of people who actually had to work for, and earn a living to get ahead in this world. I also Truly Believe that "Communication" and "Awareness" is a good place to start to make this a better world to live in. So "Good Day" Dead Freaks and be "accountable" for something today. You might find that it is actually a good thing, and is something to be proud of.
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    Wow, what a horrible experience, I feel for you and hope that all turns out well. Get Mary involved, she will make things happen for you, she is the best. I agree with you about deadnet's customer service, it is non existent. I had a similar experience with the E72 box and it took me a year of writing, bitching and complaining to get it resolved, but they finally did once Mary was involved. Until dead productions return to the good old USA this type of clusterf**k will continue and just like everything else, we, the fans and consumers of this music must be the ones to rise up and point out these misdeeds. If anyone else ran their business like this, they would be out of business in no time, but, because they have the goods and music we love and want, they can precharge us, not talk to us, outsource their product to crappy manufacturers and pretty much abuse us with no action taken against them. They know they have the goods, and that we want their product, it's is unfortunate that we are treated this way. I feel for you Judy and hope it does not take you a year to get what you paid for. I, for one, will never buy presale from deadnet again, the cost is too high and the probability of failure is just not worth the time and money. I've got enough dead and if I need more etree is back up and running, I will get it there, it's free and Charlie Miller makes a mean sounding recording.
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    Just picked up tickets to see The Orb on their 30 year anniversary tour, should be interesting and fun Little Fluffy Clouds anyone? Also picked up Bob Dylan tickets to a sold out show, should be interesting and fun also. Gonna be a great fall. I am interested to see what Bob is putting out nowdays and read some reviews from his most recent tour, seems he's at the piano with no guitar playing at all, has a new band and the stage is set like a living room setting. Also heard he has done rearrangements to some of his old classics that are so different, you can't tell what song it is. Anybody else seen Bob lately? Any comments on the Orb and their live show?
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    I'm sorry to hear your story, Judy.. I hope in the end it works that it works out as well as it can. I certainly understand how an experience like this can sour the experience.. I am enjoying my box so far.. and 1974 starts today, one of my favorite years. Have you tried sending a PM to MaryE? I hope they make you whole on this..
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    What a horrendous story-in a fair world you would be compensated for having received such an appalling service. Its one thing to get a damaged product through the post, but its another thing entirely to be then denied the opportunity of being able to talk to someone connected about what has gone wrong. I was lucky enough to get a different, more old fashioned response for a book that I ordered that arrived damaged earlier this year. It wasn't cheap-£75.00-a collection of H.P.Lovecraft's short stories published and issued by The Folio Society. I was out when it was delivered, so the delivery man chucked the parcel over a 12 foot gate at the side of my house, damaging the book. I phoned up the Folio Society, just to tell them what had happened. Someone immediately answered the phone. She also immediately offered to send another book out recorded delivery-at no extra cost to me-which arrived the following day. She suggested I give the damaged copy to charity. What a great way to run a business.
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    - Rhino Records 2018 Rocktober Vinyl Releases - ; )
    Rocktober 2018 Rhino/Grateful Dead vinyl releases... -October 2nd- * Grateful Dead – Steal Your Face – 2-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – Wake Of The Flood – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. -October 9th- * Grateful Dead – Blues For Allah – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. * Grateful Dead – From The Mars Hotel – 1-LP 140-gram black vinyl. Limited edition of 4,000 copies. ... Rocktober 2018 vinyl releases every Tuesday in October, check out the full list of band releases... :)
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    oh my,, please put this in the rotation,
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    ok on daves picks 28
    I think we don't have a choice ,which is ok lets sit back and chill for the anticipation of whats next , as we go along the dead vault may get a little tighter because of not everything is perfect, and we all want perfection just like jerry, right know this 2/13/70 is sounding very good, god bless everybody , forget everything dark star 2/13/70
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Recorded live at the Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA on May 19, 1977 and at the Lakeland Civic Center Arena, Lakeland, FL on May 21, 1977 • Hidden tracks on discs 2 and 5 recorded live at Norman, OK on October 11, 1977
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This has been one of my favorite releases and regular plays every since it first came out. Both of these shows (5/19/77 & 5/21/77) sizzle. And the bonus tracks are the proverbial cherry on the sundae. I love how just before the 5/21 "Estimated" you can hear (with headphones on) Bobby breaking down the set all the way through to "One More Saturday Night", after which Jerry says with a chuckle "I hope they didn't hear that play". Good stuff.
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I hadn't noticed. Sounds good on the Weather Reports. Which tracks? Will keep an ear out. I don't listen to Skull and Roses on account of the overdubs. They pull me out of the mood, kind of like that wake up call you get when an AUD patch is weaved in. Distracting. But today I will listen. Dark-Star that was a hilarious joke about Donna sitting on the remote. I was thinking almost the same thing but it was something else causing her consternation. I agree, it's not what she's screaming so much as the volume she screaming it at. It mixes in well on the multitrack recordings from Europe 72 and Veneta. There's so many songs I think she sounds great on. Weather Report Suite wouldn't/ doesn't sound the same without her.
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Double post. I can no longer tell if the browser is thinking or if I didn't push the button hard enough.
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I have had issues with a TON of dead box sets: Beyond Description, 30 Trips, Get Shown the Light, Scrapbook, RFK, and those are the ones just off the top of my head. The quality of the production and discs themselves is terrible. My 30 Trips is still effed up but I just gave up trying to get discs that didn't look like someone spilled maple syrup all over them. In terms of sound quality, there have been some drops, but nothing too unusual. The 5/19 vocals drop out on Sugaree, Jack Straw, Roses (I am listening now). Bobby mentions technical difficulties after Jack Straw. In terms of the board vs. the house mix, I cannot verify on Donna screams but I can testify to 80's house mixes sounding great and the boards not so much. So I believe that there is a difference. I have been in the good audience > soundboard camp for a long time because of that fact. EDIT: Vocal drops on 5/19: Sugaree, Jack Staw, Roses, El Paso. Is that what everyone else experienced?
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a·nal-re·ten·tivePSYCHOANALYSIS adjective 1. (of a person) excessively orderly and fussy (supposedly owing to conflict over toilet-training in infancy). noun 1. a person who is excessively orderly and fussy. It seems odd to have afflicted Dead fans more than, say, metal fans or just the general public on other message boards that I frequent. Which is weird since so many hippies are/were dirty and smelly, and Jerry reeked and was filthy for many years of his life; and, finally, that the music is so uneven in it's human-ness. It's what I love about this music... it was never just exactly perfect. So why should the product be? Beyond the cd's playing - that, I agree, is essential.
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..for the heads up about Dicks Picks 29. I'd never have guessed those bonus tracks came from October 11th. Wonder why they chose tracks from that tour? Also I agree with Skull Trip-certainly as regards 5/19/77-superb show. Maybe the best Ramble On Rose I have heard. Yet.
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Its on the uptempo numbers that he sounds a bit strained to me. So, on the last one I listened to-the 5/21/74 show that would include the Chuck Berry numbers and Sugar Magnolia. I would also like to add, that if you listen to those tracks to see for yourself if his vocals are a bit harsh, I sincerely hope that they don't sound that way to you, and that you come to the conclusion that I am speaking rubbish.
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Driving to a meeting yesterday the 12/30/82 Oakland show was on at noon eastern. Only caught the start of second set Touch of Grey.... Just listened to the rest on Archive from Charlie Miller set II... Wow.. Touch Throwing Stones> Franklin's Tower.. Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance>He's Gone> Drums/Space> Truckin> Stella Blue> GDTRFB> Johnny B Good... Encore Hard to Handle and Tell Mama with Etta James and Tower of Power... Been listening pretty much non stop to new box set.. somehow overlooked this show for 33 years. have a good day.. bob t
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vocal dropouts happen. it's no big deal. it's on the source tape. Donna...yes, it's known she was...overly enthusiastic at times. regardless: I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.
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i have an opportunity for a 6 hour road trip from Seattle to Portland and back. by myself. no non-Deadheads in the car. 5/21/74 second set 6/24/73 6/22/73 :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Any links to HQ scans of the individual CD artwork? Acquired one of these nifty boxes and it really looks nice. So far have listened to the first show and sounds great. Looks like this will be one to sit down with and listen under minimal interuptions. The Here Comes Sunshine from 6/22/73 might be my new favorite version. Bob's semi-hollow body guitar and some sort of chorus processing kind of has a french horn or flugal quality to it. really cool. Based on art design, this one deserves a Grammy.
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Hi-res, color-corrected scans from my "chest":https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a513cb875hedpwc/AAD-YTpMLYXoC-W_U1FrqXJaa?dl… BTW: I think I'm about to get some sort of "survivors guilt complex" or something after reading all the bummers folks are having. There's no PB&J, fingerprints, scratches or smudges on the CD's I got – nuthin'. Even after a few extra stops en route out to the hinterland, the packing box and chest were fine. I am VERY sorry for all you heads that got gimped boxes and CD's. It sounds like you're in good hands with Dr. Rhino and/or MaryE. Best wishes. Hang in there! Onward. . .
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That was fast. Scans look nice. Thanks.
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Space. Glad to hear you got a box. Bob t. 12/30/82 is complete on YouTube. I think. Only going to need one replacement disc, which had popped off its spindle and appears to have been a crash test dummy disc on the way here.
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Excellent Dark Star!!I'm digesting this box slowly and so far so good....wow!
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Ha yeah, took me 2 commutes but I just listened to that today too. Awesome
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Love those shows. 12/30/82 was a gem.. The three set 12/31 shines too, two great shows. 12/31/82 Oakland Auditorium Arena - Oakland, CA Set 1: Cold Rain And Snow C.C. Rider Cumberland Blues Far From Me Cassidy Ramble On Rose Looks Like Rain Day Job Set 2: Sugar Magnolia Sugaree Man Smart-Woman Smarter Ship Of Fools Playin' In The Band Drums Not Fade Away Deal Sunshine Daydream Set 3: Turn On Your Love Light Tell Mama Baby What You Want Me To Do Hard To Handle In The Midnight Hour Encore: Brokedown Palace Nice Midnight Hour too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etDyZj16jiM Johnny / Erik - I just finished the Dark Star show too. Looks like I'm not the only one turtling their way through the box. A great one, went to look for an audience to see if Keith didn't play or was just out of the mix but I didn't see one. One great Dark Star nonetheless.
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He's using a phaser pedal called a Foxx Foot Phaser. They were pretty new in 1973. At first i thought it was a MXR Phase 80, but they came out the next year. I had never noticed him using that before, but these are also the first summer '73 shows officially released in their entirety. He definitely isn't using it in '74, and I don't recall hearing it in Winterland '73, and I think that 35 min Dark Star would've been a great place to employ some phaser, but I didn't hear any the other day, when I listened to that second set and the 12/4/73 bonus disc. He plays it liberally throughout the 3 '73 shows in this box, sometimes it adds an astounding texture, like Sugaree. It really mixes that one up at a time where Sugaree was a good song, but not venturing out into the 15 min+ territory that it got to in 1977. Like, the Tennesee Jed from 5/21/77 DP 29 (see it was mentioned here for other reasons today, and you may wanna check the Jack Straw and Jed on 5/21 if you pull that one out because all of these other mentions, which I heartily endorse), Jerry uses his MuTron for the solo, a rarity that I think I heard only a couple other times. Pretty sure none of the other May '77 shows released have one. But don't think I've heard Jerry rip a better Jed than that one, and it follows on the heels of my favorite May '77 Jack Straw. But, I digress... Oh, and to jump into the Donna fray, something I wanted to avoid. But then the Scarlet Begonias from 5/19/74 came on and I was enjoying up until her remote control shock. And, as has been pointed out, there's some Bobby shouting going on as well, not much of it good shouting either. Wonder why the mics couldn't conveniently go out for those parts. Though, as some said, it's quite interesting hearing the music, I'm personally fascinated hearing what Jerry plays and doesn't play for those songs. Lastly, it is really nice to hear Keith quite prominently on a lot of songs, and to hear him taking solos is striking. If he took them regularly, the mix on most of the releases must really have him buried. His playing is fantastic on these shows.
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Having just listened to the first cd of 5/21/77, I would agree with alvarhanso that these are great versions of Tennessee Jed and Jack Straw. In fact the whole cd is great-They Love Each Other, Cassidy, Jack-A-Row, Row Jimmy-all top notch. Its a lot more of a conventional mix than the 73-74 ones we have been listening to. Everything in its rightful place, no vocal howlers, Jerry at the helm-all good stuff. Not for a minute saying its better than 73-74, just very different and excellent in a totally different way. One thing that struck me as pleasingly unusual about 5/19/77 was its ending. Its very impressive the way the set quietly draws to a close with the last notes of the Playin' jam. I assumed that the few songs must have been excised, so I checked Deadbase. And that's the way it was on the night. Cool.
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I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.
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I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.
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I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.
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I think that is the way to go to get more 80s>90s shows released. Officially released matrix-matrices is a solution.
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Since we got on this 77 tangent. I was wondering if anybody has a digital copy of May 77 box set they could copy for me? I already got the Get Shown The Light box but I missed out on May 77. Just message me, thanks.
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But Dave I think you've got the message. As long as I'm here again . . .. Hey Dave please consider NYC's MSG September 1979 3 show run for a minibox set. These shows are very worthy of official release treatment.These shows are the new kid's, Brent, first MSG NYC shows. The Big League. I saw someone mention Winter 79? I could go for that.
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I jumped into the Donna fray a few days ago, trying to emphasize her professionalism, the difficulty of being in her position and leaping out in performance, and the fact that it seemed she did exactly what she was asked. That was before hearing unprecedentedly blood-curdling shrieks on the 17May74 PITB - they just about gave me a coronary while I was exercising a couple of days ago. If a wife had/used a voice like that, it would help the husband retain his sanity to be profoundly deaf (but since hers played in the Grateful Dead, that would have been another problem). Canine hearing being far more acute than that of humans, I'd be interested in seeing a typical dog react to that voice. I have visions of the animal depiction in the old RCA logo, and the animal running away from the grammophone, yelping and diving into the nearest shrubbery, putting its paws over its head. It would be entertaining to see Monsieur Lemieux have someone edit a track of nothing but Donna's vocalisms from the entirety of the archives - to see how long would it run, and how many disks it would fill or overflow, as well as how popularly it would sell (Dave's picks, anyone?). Nah, too cruel - I do call it an evil thought because Donna might be a terrific person to know - it's just a quality in the voice God gave her that's unpleasant to me, and the passage of time has probably mellowed that voice quite a bit.
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Took a break from listening to the box set….to listen to more grateful dead. I dove into 11/17/72 (DaP 11). This has got to be a top 5 pick. One of the best bird song’s of all time, and perhaps the all-time He’s Gone>Truckin>TOO....wow this is a great one.
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When I was younger I usually liked the screaming, but have less and less tolerance for it as years go by.That being said, let us remeber ... - Bob can be just as bad on occasion - They are hearing themselves through completely different equipment in a completely different context. I guarantee if you heard much of this live it would not be as prominent and thus not as bad...especially since she was often turned way up to try and make her be heard, which does not translate well to direct recorded tape. Just listen to E72 shows for a better idea of a well balanced vocal mix including DG. - Women often don’t have the same power as men to sing or yell loudly enough so they, and sometimes Bob strain or extend themselves which doesn’t usually sound good, You can even find examples of ol Jer too. (This is not sexist. Some women have a thin or higher range that is harder to be LOUD is all I meant) obviouslly there are many great women singers that have super powerful voices, just not all) - DG obviously could sing or would not have gotten work as a studio singer. In fact most of the work she does with the dead in the studio was awesome. Some folks, and perhaps some women have a harder time singing live in really loud R&R bands. She as well as the rest have admitted as much. - Personally, I’ve rarely heard a female vocalist that meshed well with the dead. Even post dead etc. I did really like that Garcia gal that sang backups in Futhur. Something about the boys to me made it tough for women to mesh, any era...I’m sure there are occasional exceptions, but generally speaking.... - Donna imho was a way better when she was more of a secondary, back up singer (in the dead). I know many feel she was better in the post hiatus band, and in some ways she was. I believe they made monitor/gear and position changes that helped. I think time also helped her learn the material and mesh better. As some mention, the stuff she did that they learned after she joined is often better for her than the “old” stuff they learned before her. But to me, she like some of the other “non-core” dead members over the years were better as secondary players. I didnt always like when they start having these folks become full on participants. But that’s just my worthless OPINION. - Board Recordings. Yes there are some truly jarring instances on this box where it’s tough to take, but that’s more because of technical variables and the idiosyncrasies of SB recordings as much as DG herself. Unfortunately the human mind often focuses on very different, jarring, scary sounds more than soft or soothing. If all you listen for is the ugly stuff, yeah, your not going to like DG. But if you move past that stuff and concentrate on the other, perhaps less dramatic stuff she did, she can be indeed very sweet. - Intoxication;in fact, and as she herself has said, intoxication can often be very detrimental to singing. Hell all music can be sometimes be affected negatively, look what happened to Jer...... Finally, ive talked to a few people who have had a chance to meet her and all have said she is truly a very nice person. So before one is tempted to be negative and perhaps even say something hateful, consider the big picture and all that was involved......
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I would agree that her greatest moments with the Dead were when she was singing back up. I am thinking particularly of the post retirement Looks Like Rains. Actually, all of the Dead were at their best when they were tightly enmeshed in the whole. Take any one member out of that whole and they always sounded-and probably still do-somewhat diminished.
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Finally got to the 46 min PITB. Holy crap! They just kept going and going and going! Whew!
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I appreciate the breakdown of all the factors that go to the Donna problem.If i may add: I went to many many 70's shows (and then some). Not once did she sound so off, or shrill, as the tapes make it appear nowadays. No one ever left a show criticizing Donna for her 'screams'. Maybe the live loudness of the auditoriums kept it at bay somewhat but nobody who was there was complaining at the time. And some of the best pure rock 'n roll girl screaming i've ever heard was on 'Round & 'Round !!
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https://shop.realgonemusic.com/products/grateful-dead-dicks-picks-34-6l… If the saga of the Grateful Dead is a long strange trip, then we’ve definitely been along for part of the ride! First, we brought you the entire Dick’s Picks series of live concerts on CD, all 36 volumes of it, many of them never before available at retail. Then we began putting out the Road Trips series, none of which has ever been in stores before. But now, dear Deadheads and Real Goners, the time has come to take the next step in our evolution as a key source for rare Grateful Dead recordings. It’s time to cross…the vinyl frontier. And we are hoping you will cross it with us, because we aren’t even offering this release to retail until you have had a chance—at a special low price—to snag all 1500 hand-numbered, limited editions of our new 6-LP set, Grateful Dead: Dick’s Picks Vol. 34—Rochester, NY 11/5/77! That’s right…we are finally putting Dick’s Picks on vinyl, and, boy, have we picked the right one. How do we know? You told us! This was by far the best-selling volume on CD from our reissue campaign. And no wonder, it’s from that magical year of 1977, with fiery performances of “Big River,” “Jack Straw,” “Deal,” and “Eyes of the World” powered by a particularly lively Phil Lesh. But for many the highlight will be one of the truly great performances of “The Other One” in the Grateful Dead catalog, 12 minutes of surging intensity and building crescendos. This Pick also included highlights from a 11/2/77 Toronto show, including a great medley of “Estimated Prophet”/”St. Stephen”/”Truckin’”/”Around and Around” (we’ve reconfigured the track listing to put all the bonus tracks at the end of the set for a seamless concert experience). Definitely a great place to begin our journey into the realm of Grateful Dead vinyl! Such a stellar performance deserves a great package with great sound. For this Real Gone release, we’ve enlisted David Glasser at Airshow Mastering to remaster the set for vinyl. David’s had a long association with the Dead; he mastered the soundtrack to last year’s Long Strange Trip documentary among many other projects. For lacquer cutting, we turned to John Golden at Golden Mastering. John has worked with artists as far-ranging as Jonathan Wilson, Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings, and Soundgarden among many others, and he is our go-to engineer for lacquer cutting. The test pressings were approved by David Glasser, the Grateful Dead’s resident audiovisual archivist David Lemieux, and Gordon Anderson from Real Gone. We’ve pressed the set up on 180-gram vinyl for maximum fidelity, too. And we even scrapped the first pressing because it wasn’t up to our quality standards. As for the packaging, we’ve placed all six LPs inside a hardshell box adorned with the original front cover and a custom back cover featuring a great shot of Jerry Garcia from the show. Inside, you’ll find a 4-page, LP-sized, full-color insert offering photos from the original package along with the original trippy graphics. And, as we mentioned before, each of these limited-edition sets is hand-numbered all the way up to 1500. This set will not be repressed once we run out of the 1500 limited edition copies.
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Thanks, it’s always nice when someone can relate, especially adding your live experiences. As great as these SB recordings are, I’ve never heard one that sounded like what the show sounded like live in the venue, (usually in front of the mixing board, or even in the front row).... Used to be a musician in a past life too, and though great recordings can be made, dry, direct only or close miked instruments do not sound quite the same as the live sound in the venue. Of course mic tapes can be adversely effected by your position and the venue, your gear, technique and of course your neighbors...... JJEEEEEEERRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYY DAAAAAAAARRRRRRKKKKKKKKK SSSSTTTTTTAAAARRRR LOL always durning the most subtle, quiet, emotional ballad ; ) A&A: yasss that could really be the best for the DG “treatment”. Everyone always thinks of the PITB or Scarlets, which sometimes work, but playing especially, like with this box, can sometimes be a bit too much re-entry shall we say. A&A is perfect for that type of enthusiasm! Makes we want to go Fire up a hot one....... SUGGESTIONS? What’s the hottest Pre-Brent/Vince Around and Around folks?
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well, Muscle Shoals, actually. Sex Pistols + Donna talk = the quips above. NMTBollocks = masterpiece
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The one on DaP 1 5/25/77 is 9 min or so. It just kept going around and around. But seriously, was on a road trip a couple weeks ago and was amazed at that version when it came on. Not my favorite song, so I skip it a lot of times, but was going straight through that Pick for the first time in a while, and that one stood out. DiP 18 also has a fiery one. Which reminds me to check out that Scarlet> Fire again...
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You said it best Oroborous - "A&A is perfect for that type of (Donna's)enthusiasm! Would love to hear everyone's favorite pre-Brent 'Around'. Mine are the 77-78's. 3-17-77 ~ Keith very prominent 10-16-77 ~ a spirited, but not loud, Donna 12-12-78 ~ a very energetic Donna Still looking for that one Bobby/Donna screamer, not sure of year. Just as Bobby sings '..rose out of my seat' Donna lets out a primal rock 'n roll scream, and it gets hotter and louder from there! It may be an official release but not too sure now.
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I forget which show came on. But Donna Jean's cover of Loretta Lynn, "You Ain't Woman Enough (To Take My Man)," I thought was just wonderful. She sings in that sweet, sassy country voice. Hell, Donna Jean was from the South and really more at home singing backup on Elvis records and that kind of thing. Anyway, I love her rendition of that song. Good for her.
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May be The Closing Of Winterland 12/31/78
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I love Donna Jean's "Rain" from Cats Under the Stars. Great original song and performance by Donna.
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5/14/78 (one of the 30 trips shows) She and bobby go totally nuts. It's a great one, as is the Samson they played that night too. Crazy amount of energy (ok and maybe drugs).
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Donna belts out a primal scream during NFA....so on the spot, in the moment.
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Do the transitions stay intact? Or do you get that slight gap? I have the CD box set. With CDs going out of favor from the industry. Thinking about digital downloads. Hate to see my Cds move into the same realm as my analogs.
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with the return of the Captcha code to screen out the bots, i found this article interesting after having to look for bikes in fuzzy photos. <<<<<<<< from an MIT study on a single word Turing test >>>>>>>> The words human respondents used to prove their humanity included “love” (a massive 14 percent of responses), various answers relating to emotions, compassion, religion, and … “poop.” Because what are we as the planet’s current most intelligent beings if not for lovers of toilet humor? In fact, poop had a whole lot of significance for the project. After the answers had been collected, the researchers randomly formed pairs of words and then told another group of 2,405 participants to choose which word they thought was from a human and which one was from a robot — despite the fact that both were selected by humans. “Poop” was the one that most people thought had been picked by a human. The least successful, for obvious reasons, was “robot.” “Most of the words make sense once you see them, but they’re not necessarily what I would have predicted ahead of time,” Tomer Ullman, a postdoctoral associate in the Computational Cognitive Science group at MIT, told us. “Some of the words still have us scratching our heads. That the taboo category word beat out everything else isn’t something I would’ve bet a lot of money on before we ran the study, though it may seem obvious in retrospect.”
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This song really seemed to catch fire in 1977-78. What I like about it most is the double speed instrumental break in the middle. When I first heard it, I thought they were going into Johnny B. Goode, but they never do, on the versions I have heard. But Jerry really pulls out the stops on the old Chuck Berry licks during that mid song break. Definitely one of the songs that improved exponentially after the retirement break at the end of 1974.
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just listen to Row Jimmy 6/24/73.....Donna seemed in fine form. Donna's harmony, is it a better fit with Jerry or Bobby? Don't forget the JGB shows. Can we see the DVD/CD combo of 6/17/91 soon?
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