Grateful Dead

....might need to call in late that day. Got my Tix for Phish's Halloween shows in Vegas today in the mail btw. Going to the last two. Work sucks and I know my limits.

WOW awesome show and excellent mix-you can hear all the instruments clearly. This maybe the sleeper with all the attention on Portland 74.

Phil Lesh. The sound quality on (almost) every song in the box is superb, and Phil's bass comes through loud and clear. Inventive, tasteful, sweet, harsh, whatever the situation calls for. There are other official releases that meet the same Phil standards, but I think he controls the entire box.

Thanks for heads up. The 'Playing' on vinyl from 5/21/74 looks very tempting indeed. I don't know when Black Friday is though-or even if we have it in England. Something to look into, while I should be doing something else more worthwhile!

it's a real drag reading about all the problems with the cd printing of this box. I, too, have problems with some of the cd's and it's just a real bummer to have to, once again, deal with customer service on this site. I just don't get it, who are these people and why do they work for the dead? Are these more Mexico made discs? Who is in charge of quality control at dead.net? How much could it cost to have someone just LOOK at the disc before they stuff them into the sleeve? Most of my problems with my discs are quite evident and can be seen with the naked eye. I had so many bad discs in my E72 box I didn't purchase nothing from this site for 2 years afterwards. I'm there again with this box. I have finally listened to all these shows, the 74' shows are much better mixed and sound a lot better than the 73 shows. Great marketing ploy, get one really long, really good show, surround it with C plus shows and charge 200 bucks for it. Tricky. I'm not going to preorder anymore boxes from these guys, I will wait for the reviews, then, if all is good, order. Well, except for Dave's picks, gotta get those subscriptions for 99 bucks, only way to go. Hey Dave, what about Gainesville?

I believe the discs are made in Mexico, yes. I share your frustration (my damaged discs were clearly and visibly scratched too) and agree with everything here except the C+ comment. There are two absolutely great shows here (6/22 Vancouver, 5/19 Portland), two well above average shows (both Seattle shows) and two very solid if occasionally perfunctory-sounding shows (6/24 and 5/19). I'd have bought any of these shows individually (though I agree there are clear standouts) and if it weren't for the QC issues, I'd have zero buyer's remorse about buying this set. Here's hoping that after these repeated problems with discs (and not just with this recent set, as you point out), they move future manufacturing somewhere else.

Here is a list of available shows from 71-73-74 (I often return to Europe 72/Stanley Theatre or sunshine daydream for 72) I made this "work" about my favorite era of gd music to see what came before & after PNW...and imagine what may Dave bring next. It 's clear the stadium shows of summer 73 are not top gd music(but Kezar stadium?)I surely forgot one or two? GD-71-02-19-Port Chester-Three from the Vault GD-30 Trips-71-03-18-StLouis GD-71-04-Ladies & Gentlemen-Fillmore East GD-RT-VOL1-3-71-07-31-New Haven-cd1 GD-DP35-71-08-6-Hollywood GD-DP35-71-08-7-San Diego GD-RT-VOL1-3-71-08-23-Chicago-cd2 GD-DP35-71-08-24- Chicago GD-DA03-71-10-22-Chicago GD-DOWNLD-VOL03-71-10-26-Rochester GD-DP02-71-10-31-Columbus-OH GD-RT-VOL3-2-71-11-15-Austin GD-DA26-71-11-17-Albuquerque GD-DA22-71-12-6-Ann Arbor GD-DA22-71-12-7-Felt Forum GD-DP28-73-02-26-Lincoln GD-DP28-73-02-28-Salt Lake GD-DA16-73-03-28-Springfield GD-DA21-73-04-2-Boston GD-PACIFIC NW-73-06-22-Vancouver GD-PACIFIC NW-73-06-24-Portland GD-PACIFIC NW-73-06-26-Seattle GD-DP19-73-10-19-Oaklahoma City GD-73-11-9-Winterland GD-73-11-10-Winterland GD-73-11-11-Winterland GD-30 Trips-73-11-14-San Diego GD-DA05-73-11-17-LA GD-RT-VOL4-3-73-11-21-Denver GD-DP14-73-11-30-Boston GD-DP14-73-12-2-Boston GD-DOWNLD-VOL08-73-12-10-Charlotte GD-DP01-73-12-19-Tampa-FL GD-DA13-74-02-24-Winterland GD-DP24-74-03-23-Cow Palace GD-DA09-74-05-14-Missoula GD-PACIFIC NW-74-05-17-Vancouver GD-PACIFIC NW-74-05-19-Portland GD-PACIFIC NW-74-05-21-Seattle GD-RT-VOL2-3-74-06-16-Des Moines GD-RT-VOL2-3-74-06-18-Louisville GD-DP12-74-06-26-Providence GD-DP12-74-06-28-Boston GD-DA17-74-07-19-Fresno GD-DA02-74-07-31-Hartford GD-DP31-74-08-4-Philadelphia GD-DP31-74-08-5-Jersey City GD-DP07-74-09-Alex Palace-GB GD-30 Trips-74-09-18-Dijon GD-74-Oct-Winterland

How difficult was it to get tickets? Were you limited or was it all you can eat?? Just curious.. bob t

05/20/73 Santa Barbara. In a football field. One of the best rock concerts I ever atttended.

...I'm jealous. I assumed you'd hop on that train....have fun man. Hope All are well in Deadland. Bummer that my new job is set in prairie-dog land, so I can't f-off like I used to be able to do. Nonetheless it's good to check in on the ongoing banter and updates as usual. Be Good, People! Sixtus

...this just hit my inbox. We don't know what this is, do we??? "It's our very last Dave's Picks of 2018! Mark your calendars and ready your phones, tablets, and laptops for Friday, October 12th at 10AM PT because as history shows, our numbered limited-edition Dave's Picks Volume 28 will sell out fast." Queue the non-subscriber scramble... Sixtus

....I smell 1979.

I would LOVE to smell a '79. It would be a first for official stand alone releases (aside from RTs and 30 Trips). Bring it...olfactory hues. Sixtus

I'd love 1979, too. When Keith first joined, it was awesome as they morphed and found their footing. Ditto Brent. However, this also means we'll get new thread with such topics as: - shipping too slow/expensive - not someone's favorite year - didn't like the artwork - partial human fingerprint on one of the discs - UPS guy dropped/sneezed on/stared too hard at the outer packaging Happy weekend everyone! \m/

LedDed, "partial human fingerprint on one of the discs" Uh no, many of us received discs that skipped due to large scratches and abrasions, and this isn't the first time. (See: Get Shown the Light.) Pro tip: The next time you feel like making a snide remark about others, maybe think twice before actually posting it.

So you don't care what year a show is from, you don't care about the artwork of the releases, you don't care about the condition the discs are in when they arrive, you don't care how long it takes for them to arrive after you have ordered them, you don't care if some people have to pay exorbitant shipping costs and you don't like people who want to discuss such things. Nice one!

For once I'm not anxiously awaiting the next annoucment. Still enjoying this box set too much to really care. I'm sure that will change when I find out what it actually is. Truly doesn't matter to me what they put out....but if I had my way it would be some crazy primal show from 1968 pulled deep from the depths of the archive. Have a great weekend everyone. I'm already one beer in (Brooklyn lager) and ready for a peaceful weekend.

..but one beer behind. Will have to change that and get in a festive mood.. I am about to march into 1974 on the big box. Way behind.. where does the time go? How does this song go?

I went to 9/26 and 10/10. Think it was through mail order. Don't remember it being too hard---just get order in. Six ticket max per order; we only needed six so that's all we ordered. This was before huge scalping profits available so we did not even think about getting more. Our group from LA could only go weekends, we decided to spread it out to beginning and end, and got the two Saturdays. Hope that is informative?

we must need a new release to change the subject, it has gotten to posts about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining. i think i got that right ;) we must need a NEW subscription series to fill the awkward weeks between releases, like once every 4 months and with Plangent processing for the returned reels and other degrading reels in the vault before they become unplayable. Däve's Top Shelf, no cover art just a generic reel box like Dick's 1-6 and with a disclaimer, and a digital download version too, so it never really sells out.

If I recall correctly, it was a mail order, 6 tickets max per show, with no limit on how many shows you wanted. I bought tickets for 13 out of 15, but had to bail on two of them in order to recuperate: these shows started at 8pm and ended around 1:00 am, with the last show(10/14) ending around 2:00. All my tickets were in the same section and mostly the same seats, after a while it really felt like home.

I'm thinking late 1969. They had some great shows with some great dark stars between October and the end of the year. 1025, 11/2, 1226, even just over the hump and two new year, January 2nd, maybe they found the Dark Star for that show. I think that's the one with the missing Dark Star. Or vguy's 8/30 would suit me. Plenty of room for bonus material, like if they did one of the shows from the Boston Tea Party Trio. I would be more than happy with something in this range, and we're due. P.S. - count me in as a T.C. fan. I always read about how one of the big reasons he left the band was because there was no Sonic space for him. I do think, however, that everything he plays ads to the texture of the song, and if he's up in the mix, you can tell that he's present and playing constantly. And I like his tone. Very unique. It would have been interesting to hear him playing alongside Keith godchaux. I think my all-time favorite. Might be when Keith and pigpen we're onstage together Hammond and piano.

1969. I expect to see more 69 releases soon simply because the master reels are ancient and likely suffering from the ravages of time. Plus.. so many Dark Stars, so little time. Unfortunately.. some have probably already suffered from decay and abuse, so they might not sound quite as good as some of the recently released material. A quick shoutout again to 80's fan. I have never seen a negative post, nothing but positive comments that propel the conversations along. And count me in the group that agrees with Kayak Guys Plangent Processes with the higher quality master reels. There really is no excuse not to do what we can to make some of these historical recordings sound as good as humanly possible. One last comment on diversity of releases and sometimes getting a release or box set out of our normal comfort range.. I embrace quirky releases, especially ones that fill in gaps from periods I am not 100% fluid with.. I almost always learn something and the body of music they created does not make sense if you have big holes.. it was a growing, breathing thing that constantly built upon itself and expanded. If I had unlimited time, for example.. I would like to listen to every China>Rider in sequence to appreciate how it expanded and contracted. No best ever, they all are important and one without the one before it just wouldn't make sense, it doesn't work that way. Onward.. enjoying the box and looking forward to next Friday and November 1.

Grateful Dead& Motorhead it boggles my imagination

1968 but that won't happen 1967 but that won't happen 5/6/70 but that won't happen 1982? 1984?? 1985??? 7/2/88 would be _extremely_ welcome on many levels

late November?

I think 1982 is a bit under-rated.. the soundboards sound a little flat and tinny.. but there are some great shows. Thinking treatment like Dave's Picks 8, composite, sdbd/aud.. there is room there. ok.. back to your regular programming..

Thanksgiving long weekend north of the border this weekend. CFL football, turkey & all the fixings, and this wonderful box to enjoy all weekend long! Heading to the PNW at the end of the month for hiking and decompressing on Vancouver Island. Can't wait! Everyone have a safe, wonderful, and thankful, weekend.

Caught 2/19 and 2/20 82 in San Diego and they were great shows. Hard rocking. Jerry was rocking out and Brent on piano and organ was right with him. During Truckin I thought the seismic throb created by the band and the foot stomping crowd was going to bring the building down. Of course I also thought the floor was going to fall in while experiencing a similar seismic throb during a rooftop concert at the San Diego Convention Center by The Allman Brothers. Marijuana.

....I guess that snide remark went right over my head, or I'm just stupid. And I don't think I'm stupid. This sensitivity that seems to leech into people's mindset is, for a lesser word, embarrassing for the human race. I like beer too. Throw me out.... And it's gonna be a '79 show btw.

I feel for the folks that have defective discs.. it happens every time a big release occurs. At it's core is the reality that the cost of errors related to outsourcing production is less than the cost of producing in in the US (factoring in the cost of replacing defects after production), and companies just deal with customer service issues and replacement costs after the fact. It's simply cheaper. Yet.. I feel for the folks that have to deal wit the uncertainty of replacement. I am sympathetic. It's a significant part of the process. Let it be.. weird comments and all.. if we fork out hard earned dough, we expect to be made whole. In the end we are all better off if releases are practically perfect in every way. I don't get the political reference either. But that could just be me.

Would love either of these as DaP28 (12/1/79 was suggested on the Dap27 thread).7/2/88 because I actually won't buy a Ebay 30T 7/3/88 without already having a GDM version of 7/2. Yeah, The Weight, but 7/2/88 is a night they played almost only favorite songs of mine and 7/3 is a night they played mostly songs that I don't love. GOTTA buy 7/2 first. So Ebay sellers: hope for 7/2 as DaP28! 12/1/79 because I have 35 mp3-sourced shows left on my Deadshelves. LMArchive cut off D/Ling soundboards shortly after i got DSL and before I was able to D/L many FLAC/SHN shows. Since then I have searched the net for FLAC/SHN D/Ls. I have 35 shows left to upgrade and 12/1/79 is one of the better ones. Bring it on GDM! Of those 35, my favorites are 12/1, 10/19/81, 8/8/82, and 6/28/88... While I have been able to aquire D/Ls of every high-qual '69 sdbd, I would be happy to get a GDM-packaged edition of ANYTHING '69! The "Magnificent Seven" were AMAZING! The Playing In The Band sandwich segment of 10/9/76 Set Two popped outta my iPod in the car this AM. That was a double bill show with The Who. Reminded me of how I have often thought that the two bands sounded remarkably similar on stage in '69. And that is a compliment to both bands! I have a very nice 4/22/79 sdbd. A tasty show that would not disappoint me. Anyway, get it, hear it, iTunes a bit of it, shelve it, and on to 29...

And another show from my "mp3 35" came up today. My iPod threw the PITB/DStar combo from 9/13/93 at me as I was looking for parking after my post-work drive. Was blown away by both the intensity of the PITB and the different sonic palatte that Vince and MIDI brought to the band. Didn't even reach the Dark Star before I shut down the car, so I am looking forward to my Tuesday drive to work now! Jerry's pseudo-acoustic guitar sound is too twee for my rocker taste, but Bobby is crunchy and Vince is constantly intertwining work on multiple keyboards and Mickey is in Techno/Industrial mode. Through the warm vibes of The Dead's Americana I was re-introduced to Johnny Cash and introduced to Merle Haggard and opened to the joys of the late 60s Country-Rock crossover scene (Burritoes, Nitty Gritty, Commander Cody, etc) and I was mentally trained for Coltrane and Davis AND The Orb. The Dead truly were a band that "contained multitudes"! EDIT: Oh yeah, my point was that 9/13/93 would be a cool DaP (fits on 2 discs, so third disc could be the majority of another 93 second set...).

Its a topic in itself, in a way-whether we should complain if we feel we have received a poor service, or whether we should grin and bear it. I can remember a friend of mine years ago saying that if he was out for a meal with his wife and friends, and was served food that should have been hot-but was served cold-he wouldn't say anything, as to do so would spoil the mood of the party. How much do you take before you speak out? At the other extreme, I can remember guy who would complain constantly-even if there was nothing wrong- in order to get a free meal. I recently bought a new turntable, and on the second day of ownership, the lid snapped off. I can play albums without the lid - but the way I am-I wanted things put right. So I contacted the seller-who is handling things alright. I always tried to give a good service when I was offering one-and used to encourage people to complain if they felt I-or the organisation I was working for-wasn't meeting their expectations. I should also say that it isn't just Dead box boxes that have defective cds enclosed. I have also had to ask for replacement discs in the Pink Floyd box and the David Bowie box with Heroes in.

Thanks everyone!!! Have a good weekend. bob t

It's really funny that you mentioned this, because I immediately thought so the first time I heard the Live Dead record about 15 years ago. I think what probably accounted most for the similarity is the fact that Townsend and Garcia both played the Gibson SG, and Entwistle and Lesh both played a Precision Fender bass (at least in early '69 for Lesh - at some point he switched to one of those Alembic concoctions with the four knobs to control volume).

that is proof that mo' 80s should be considered. what about... GAINESPHQKINGVILLE???

listen to 6/22/73 in its entirety. but 4-5 uninterrupted hours are very hard to come by right now. maybe one disc at a time will have to suffice.

hahahahahahahahaha.... ha... stoltz your fus HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Ha... ha...

I listened to 6-22-73 last night. It’s awesome.Started my 3rd voyage through the Pacific Great Northwest last night. Awesome Box. And for DaP28? I don’t know......just make sure that quality control is actually used in the production and packaging process. Edit: OK, I’ll throw a guess/request for DaP28. 6-14-76. Although that really should be part of next year’s June ‘76 Box. Otherwise, 5-18-77 with filler the missing songs from 5-22-77. That would help fill in a gap.

the 'Lemmy zone' hehe . I would love that show if he came out for a hot 'summertime blues' with the Dead . Jerry just smile smile smile g'damn it'd be magic...

Good morning to you all, well it is morning here in the Burg’. I have been slowly getting into the PNW now. I had some discs that needed replacing which took some time to accomplish. So now that I have them in my possession it is has been great. I am listening to the shows in reverse order and I am getting into the shows from 73. Honestly I don't have much new to add. I think this box is great in both design and quality of music. The shows, once they get through opening anomalies (weird mixes, volume drops, etc...) sound great. It has been a long wait for me but now I am very happy with this box. I have to say that I have reached a point where I am feeling somewhat content with the number of shows I have. Between what Dick and then Dave and Co. have given us, plus Real Gone Music and eBay I have managed to get about everything i want. I am missing Dave's 1- 5, 7, 8. There is one Dave's I need to get out of that lot and that is #5. I got it once only to have stolen from the mail...bummer. I have a few Road Trips to get which Real Gone will do the job. There is a little chance that they will release the bonus discs, but I can live without them for now... Which brings up the looming announcement of Dave's Picks 28. I am all about a show from 1979. I have been requesting that for a while like many others. Or another 76 show - i think there are some untapped gems in there. I also wouldn't mind, if the sound quality is up to the standard, a show from 80-82. However one thing that the PNW box reminds me is that consistency and quality wise the shows from 69 -77 and then 89-90, are where I feel more shows should be pulled from. Now I am not discounting everything from 67-68, 78 -88 , and 91-95 . I stand by what I said about Dave's 27 - a show from 83- in that I liked it. I just hope we get releases of good shows both playing and sound wise regardless of the year. I just think the majority of those shows come from 69-77 and 89-90 periods and if Dave's 28, ends up being another show from say 1972 for example I won't be disappointed. If it ends up being from 1984 as long as sound and playing quality are at the standard (relatively speaking), I will be happy. When it is all said and done I am not trying to stir up an era debate. As I said, I like all eras. I will continue subscribe to the Dave's Picks series. I still think that hands down it is one of the best things any band has done for their fans. Adding a yearly box makes things that much sweeter.

How about 7/18/76 Orpheum Theatre, awesome show, doesn't affect a future box set of 76, and we already have 7/16 and 7/17/76... I haven't guessed one right yet!!!! bob t

I've been wondering about the error rate. Is it going up? How did it compare to the 1st contract or when GDP did releases. As far as it being Mexico just my opinion but if they can't make cds then you'd be reading about a lot more wheels flying off of cars. I'd like to see the error rate with a really big release. This was around 300,000 discs. What did the Beatles boxes or the new Beeb realease have in the way of problems.

When Dozin at the Knick came out they had to resend a complete new CD out to everyone that ordered. That was in 1996

Thanks for the replacement disc. I just didn't have the time to check 30 trips, for all defects. Thanks to all the other who sent me files. I will PM, each of you. My PNW box, 9 cds are in need of replacement. I actually had to purchase a second box set. I had to have 5/5/77 cds replaced. I used to not worry about GDCDs, however since the 11/73 box set, releases seem susceptible to issues. Have spoken to marye and doc rhino.

Would just like to thank Marye, for effort provided on helping us all out. Whether its site monitoring or help/contact with Dr. Rhino. Such an invaluable resource. Thanks, JW

For another '77 Pick. But when the time comes, I would really like a Normanized 2/26/77. That Slipknot! is so good - price of admission right there. Many others as well, not least of all, Phil's exuberant conclusion to Eyes of the World. Dark Star fever here. 8/30/69 (thanks for the recommendation Vguy), 10/25/69, and Fillmore West Complete's 4th show. I think I'll revisit 11/19/72 - I rampaged home on that one last night (nothing like a long drive and a decent car sound system.

Motorhead and Grateful Dead? Well that would be as crazy as a Grateful Dead interview in Thrasher magazine. http://www.thrashermagazine.com/images/image/Features/2009/1988/8802/80… I recall the debate continued for some time but in the end, GD was deemed rad.

I love that Swing Auditorium 2/26/77 show and agree with your comments. I could see them sandbagging that show for the first or second release of next year's Dave's pick to increase subscription sales!! just a thought.. bob t