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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    10.1.94's Space into Last Time....
    ....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
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  • LedDed
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    They say...
    ...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
  • MDJim
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    I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
  • Vguy72
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    ....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
  • Vguy72
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    ....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
  • LedDed
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    "Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."
    I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
  • LedDed
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    First world problems... yawn
    This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
  • cheyler196
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    I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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WOW awesome show and excellent mix-you can hear all the instruments clearly. This maybe the sleeper with all the attention on Portland 74.
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Phil Lesh. The sound quality on (almost) every song in the box is superb, and Phil's bass comes through loud and clear. Inventive, tasteful, sweet, harsh, whatever the situation calls for. There are other official releases that meet the same Phil standards, but I think he controls the entire box.
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Thanks for heads up. The 'Playing' on vinyl from 5/21/74 looks very tempting indeed. I don't know when Black Friday is though-or even if we have it in England. Something to look into, while I should be doing something else more worthwhile!
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it's a real drag reading about all the problems with the cd printing of this box. I, too, have problems with some of the cd's and it's just a real bummer to have to, once again, deal with customer service on this site. I just don't get it, who are these people and why do they work for the dead? Are these more Mexico made discs? Who is in charge of quality control at dead.net? How much could it cost to have someone just LOOK at the disc before they stuff them into the sleeve? Most of my problems with my discs are quite evident and can be seen with the naked eye. I had so many bad discs in my E72 box I didn't purchase nothing from this site for 2 years afterwards. I'm there again with this box. I have finally listened to all these shows, the 74' shows are much better mixed and sound a lot better than the 73 shows. Great marketing ploy, get one really long, really good show, surround it with C plus shows and charge 200 bucks for it. Tricky. I'm not going to preorder anymore boxes from these guys, I will wait for the reviews, then, if all is good, order. Well, except for Dave's picks, gotta get those subscriptions for 99 bucks, only way to go. Hey Dave, what about Gainesville?
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I believe the discs are made in Mexico, yes. I share your frustration (my damaged discs were clearly and visibly scratched too) and agree with everything here except the C+ comment. There are two absolutely great shows here (6/22 Vancouver, 5/19 Portland), two well above average shows (both Seattle shows) and two very solid if occasionally perfunctory-sounding shows (6/24 and 5/19). I'd have bought any of these shows individually (though I agree there are clear standouts) and if it weren't for the QC issues, I'd have zero buyer's remorse about buying this set. Here's hoping that after these repeated problems with discs (and not just with this recent set, as you point out), they move future manufacturing somewhere else.
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Here is a list of available shows from 71-73-74 (I often return to Europe 72/Stanley Theatre or sunshine daydream for 72) I made this "work" about my favorite era of gd music to see what came before & after PNW...and imagine what may Dave bring next. It 's clear the stadium shows of summer 73 are not top gd music(but Kezar stadium?)I surely forgot one or two? GD-71-02-19-Port Chester-Three from the Vault GD-30 Trips-71-03-18-StLouis GD-71-04-Ladies & Gentlemen-Fillmore East GD-RT-VOL1-3-71-07-31-New Haven-cd1 GD-DP35-71-08-6-Hollywood GD-DP35-71-08-7-San Diego GD-RT-VOL1-3-71-08-23-Chicago-cd2 GD-DP35-71-08-24- Chicago GD-DA03-71-10-22-Chicago GD-DOWNLD-VOL03-71-10-26-Rochester GD-DP02-71-10-31-Columbus-OH GD-RT-VOL3-2-71-11-15-Austin GD-DA26-71-11-17-Albuquerque GD-DA22-71-12-6-Ann Arbor GD-DA22-71-12-7-Felt Forum GD-DP28-73-02-26-Lincoln GD-DP28-73-02-28-Salt Lake GD-DA16-73-03-28-Springfield GD-DA21-73-04-2-Boston GD-PACIFIC NW-73-06-22-Vancouver GD-PACIFIC NW-73-06-24-Portland GD-PACIFIC NW-73-06-26-Seattle GD-DP19-73-10-19-Oaklahoma City GD-73-11-9-Winterland GD-73-11-10-Winterland GD-73-11-11-Winterland GD-30 Trips-73-11-14-San Diego GD-DA05-73-11-17-LA GD-RT-VOL4-3-73-11-21-Denver GD-DP14-73-11-30-Boston GD-DP14-73-12-2-Boston GD-DOWNLD-VOL08-73-12-10-Charlotte GD-DP01-73-12-19-Tampa-FL GD-DA13-74-02-24-Winterland GD-DP24-74-03-23-Cow Palace GD-DA09-74-05-14-Missoula GD-PACIFIC NW-74-05-17-Vancouver GD-PACIFIC NW-74-05-19-Portland GD-PACIFIC NW-74-05-21-Seattle GD-RT-VOL2-3-74-06-16-Des Moines GD-RT-VOL2-3-74-06-18-Louisville GD-DP12-74-06-26-Providence GD-DP12-74-06-28-Boston GD-DA17-74-07-19-Fresno GD-DA02-74-07-31-Hartford GD-DP31-74-08-4-Philadelphia GD-DP31-74-08-5-Jersey City GD-DP07-74-09-Alex Palace-GB GD-30 Trips-74-09-18-Dijon GD-74-Oct-Winterland
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05/20/73 Santa Barbara. In a football field. One of the best rock concerts I ever atttended.
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...I'm jealous. I assumed you'd hop on that train....have fun man. Hope All are well in Deadland. Bummer that my new job is set in prairie-dog land, so I can't f-off like I used to be able to do. Nonetheless it's good to check in on the ongoing banter and updates as usual. Be Good, People! Sixtus
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...this just hit my inbox. We don't know what this is, do we??? "It's our very last Dave's Picks of 2018! Mark your calendars and ready your phones, tablets, and laptops for Friday, October 12th at 10AM PT because as history shows, our numbered limited-edition Dave's Picks Volume 28 will sell out fast." Queue the non-subscriber scramble... Sixtus
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....I smell 1979.
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I would LOVE to smell a '79. It would be a first for official stand alone releases (aside from RTs and 30 Trips). Bring it...olfactory hues. Sixtus
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I'd love 1979, too. When Keith first joined, it was awesome as they morphed and found their footing. Ditto Brent. However, this also means we'll get new thread with such topics as: - shipping too slow/expensive - not someone's favorite year - didn't like the artwork - partial human fingerprint on one of the discs - UPS guy dropped/sneezed on/stared too hard at the outer packaging Happy weekend everyone! \m/
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LedDed, "partial human fingerprint on one of the discs" Uh no, many of us received discs that skipped due to large scratches and abrasions, and this isn't the first time. (See: Get Shown the Light.) Pro tip: The next time you feel like making a snide remark about others, maybe think twice before actually posting it.
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So you don't care what year a show is from, you don't care about the artwork of the releases, you don't care about the condition the discs are in when they arrive, you don't care how long it takes for them to arrive after you have ordered them, you don't care if some people have to pay exorbitant shipping costs and you don't like people who want to discuss such things. Nice one!
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For once I'm not anxiously awaiting the next annoucment. Still enjoying this box set too much to really care. I'm sure that will change when I find out what it actually is. Truly doesn't matter to me what they put out....but if I had my way it would be some crazy primal show from 1968 pulled deep from the depths of the archive. Have a great weekend everyone. I'm already one beer in (Brooklyn lager) and ready for a peaceful weekend.
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..but one beer behind. Will have to change that and get in a festive mood.. I am about to march into 1974 on the big box. Way behind.. where does the time go? How does this song go?
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I went to 9/26 and 10/10. Think it was through mail order. Don't remember it being too hard---just get order in. Six ticket max per order; we only needed six so that's all we ordered. This was before huge scalping profits available so we did not even think about getting more. Our group from LA could only go weekends, we decided to spread it out to beginning and end, and got the two Saturdays. Hope that is informative?
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we must need a new release to change the subject, it has gotten to posts about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining. i think i got that right ;) we must need a NEW subscription series to fill the awkward weeks between releases, like once every 4 months and with Plangent processing for the returned reels and other degrading reels in the vault before they become unplayable. Däve's Top Shelf, no cover art just a generic reel box like Dick's 1-6 and with a disclaimer, and a digital download version too, so it never really sells out.
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If I recall correctly, it was a mail order, 6 tickets max per show, with no limit on how many shows you wanted. I bought tickets for 13 out of 15, but had to bail on two of them in order to recuperate: these shows started at 8pm and ended around 1:00 am, with the last show(10/14) ending around 2:00. All my tickets were in the same section and mostly the same seats, after a while it really felt like home.
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I'm thinking late 1969. They had some great shows with some great dark stars between October and the end of the year. 1025, 11/2, 1226, even just over the hump and two new year, January 2nd, maybe they found the Dark Star for that show. I think that's the one with the missing Dark Star. Or vguy's 8/30 would suit me. Plenty of room for bonus material, like if they did one of the shows from the Boston Tea Party Trio. I would be more than happy with something in this range, and we're due. P.S. - count me in as a T.C. fan. I always read about how one of the big reasons he left the band was because there was no Sonic space for him. I do think, however, that everything he plays ads to the texture of the song, and if he's up in the mix, you can tell that he's present and playing constantly. And I like his tone. Very unique. It would have been interesting to hear him playing alongside Keith godchaux. I think my all-time favorite. Might be when Keith and pigpen we're onstage together Hammond and piano.
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1969. I expect to see more 69 releases soon simply because the master reels are ancient and likely suffering from the ravages of time. Plus.. so many Dark Stars, so little time. Unfortunately.. some have probably already suffered from decay and abuse, so they might not sound quite as good as some of the recently released material. A quick shoutout again to 80's fan. I have never seen a negative post, nothing but positive comments that propel the conversations along. And count me in the group that agrees with Kayak Guys Plangent Processes with the higher quality master reels. There really is no excuse not to do what we can to make some of these historical recordings sound as good as humanly possible. One last comment on diversity of releases and sometimes getting a release or box set out of our normal comfort range.. I embrace quirky releases, especially ones that fill in gaps from periods I am not 100% fluid with.. I almost always learn something and the body of music they created does not make sense if you have big holes.. it was a growing, breathing thing that constantly built upon itself and expanded. If I had unlimited time, for example.. I would like to listen to every China>Rider in sequence to appreciate how it expanded and contracted. No best ever, they all are important and one without the one before it just wouldn't make sense, it doesn't work that way. Onward.. enjoying the box and looking forward to next Friday and November 1.
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1968 but that won't happen 1967 but that won't happen 5/6/70 but that won't happen 1982? 1984?? 1985??? 7/2/88 would be _extremely_ welcome on many levels
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I think 1982 is a bit under-rated.. the soundboards sound a little flat and tinny.. but there are some great shows. Thinking treatment like Dave's Picks 8, composite, sdbd/aud.. there is room there. ok.. back to your regular programming..
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Thanksgiving long weekend north of the border this weekend. CFL football, turkey & all the fixings, and this wonderful box to enjoy all weekend long! Heading to the PNW at the end of the month for hiking and decompressing on Vancouver Island. Can't wait! Everyone have a safe, wonderful, and thankful, weekend.
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Caught 2/19 and 2/20 82 in San Diego and they were great shows. Hard rocking. Jerry was rocking out and Brent on piano and organ was right with him. During Truckin I thought the seismic throb created by the band and the foot stomping crowd was going to bring the building down. Of course I also thought the floor was going to fall in while experiencing a similar seismic throb during a rooftop concert at the San Diego Convention Center by The Allman Brothers. Marijuana.
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....I guess that snide remark went right over my head, or I'm just stupid. And I don't think I'm stupid. This sensitivity that seems to leech into people's mindset is, for a lesser word, embarrassing for the human race. I like beer too. Throw me out.... And it's gonna be a '79 show btw.
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I feel for the folks that have defective discs.. it happens every time a big release occurs. At it's core is the reality that the cost of errors related to outsourcing production is less than the cost of producing in in the US (factoring in the cost of replacing defects after production), and companies just deal with customer service issues and replacement costs after the fact. It's simply cheaper. Yet.. I feel for the folks that have to deal wit the uncertainty of replacement. I am sympathetic. It's a significant part of the process. Let it be.. weird comments and all.. if we fork out hard earned dough, we expect to be made whole. In the end we are all better off if releases are practically perfect in every way. I don't get the political reference either. But that could just be me.
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Would love either of these as DaP28 (12/1/79 was suggested on the Dap27 thread).7/2/88 because I actually won't buy a Ebay 30T 7/3/88 without already having a GDM version of 7/2. Yeah, The Weight, but 7/2/88 is a night they played almost only favorite songs of mine and 7/3 is a night they played mostly songs that I don't love. GOTTA buy 7/2 first. So Ebay sellers: hope for 7/2 as DaP28! 12/1/79 because I have 35 mp3-sourced shows left on my Deadshelves. LMArchive cut off D/Ling soundboards shortly after i got DSL and before I was able to D/L many FLAC/SHN shows. Since then I have searched the net for FLAC/SHN D/Ls. I have 35 shows left to upgrade and 12/1/79 is one of the better ones. Bring it on GDM! Of those 35, my favorites are 12/1, 10/19/81, 8/8/82, and 6/28/88... While I have been able to aquire D/Ls of every high-qual '69 sdbd, I would be happy to get a GDM-packaged edition of ANYTHING '69! The "Magnificent Seven" were AMAZING! The Playing In The Band sandwich segment of 10/9/76 Set Two popped outta my iPod in the car this AM. That was a double bill show with The Who. Reminded me of how I have often thought that the two bands sounded remarkably similar on stage in '69. And that is a compliment to both bands! I have a very nice 4/22/79 sdbd. A tasty show that would not disappoint me. Anyway, get it, hear it, iTunes a bit of it, shelve it, and on to 29...
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And another show from my "mp3 35" came up today. My iPod threw the PITB/DStar combo from 9/13/93 at me as I was looking for parking after my post-work drive. Was blown away by both the intensity of the PITB and the different sonic palatte that Vince and MIDI brought to the band. Didn't even reach the Dark Star before I shut down the car, so I am looking forward to my Tuesday drive to work now! Jerry's pseudo-acoustic guitar sound is too twee for my rocker taste, but Bobby is crunchy and Vince is constantly intertwining work on multiple keyboards and Mickey is in Techno/Industrial mode. Through the warm vibes of The Dead's Americana I was re-introduced to Johnny Cash and introduced to Merle Haggard and opened to the joys of the late 60s Country-Rock crossover scene (Burritoes, Nitty Gritty, Commander Cody, etc) and I was mentally trained for Coltrane and Davis AND The Orb. The Dead truly were a band that "contained multitudes"! EDIT: Oh yeah, my point was that 9/13/93 would be a cool DaP (fits on 2 discs, so third disc could be the majority of another 93 second set...).
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Its a topic in itself, in a way-whether we should complain if we feel we have received a poor service, or whether we should grin and bear it. I can remember a friend of mine years ago saying that if he was out for a meal with his wife and friends, and was served food that should have been hot-but was served cold-he wouldn't say anything, as to do so would spoil the mood of the party. How much do you take before you speak out? At the other extreme, I can remember guy who would complain constantly-even if there was nothing wrong- in order to get a free meal. I recently bought a new turntable, and on the second day of ownership, the lid snapped off. I can play albums without the lid - but the way I am-I wanted things put right. So I contacted the seller-who is handling things alright. I always tried to give a good service when I was offering one-and used to encourage people to complain if they felt I-or the organisation I was working for-wasn't meeting their expectations. I should also say that it isn't just Dead box boxes that have defective cds enclosed. I have also had to ask for replacement discs in the Pink Floyd box and the David Bowie box with Heroes in.
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It's really funny that you mentioned this, because I immediately thought so the first time I heard the Live Dead record about 15 years ago. I think what probably accounted most for the similarity is the fact that Townsend and Garcia both played the Gibson SG, and Entwistle and Lesh both played a Precision Fender bass (at least in early '69 for Lesh - at some point he switched to one of those Alembic concoctions with the four knobs to control volume).
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that is proof that mo' 80s should be considered. what about... GAINESPHQKINGVILLE???
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listen to 6/22/73 in its entirety. but 4-5 uninterrupted hours are very hard to come by right now. maybe one disc at a time will have to suffice.
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hahahahahahahahaha.... ha... stoltz your fus HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Ha... ha...
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I listened to 6-22-73 last night. It’s awesome.Started my 3rd voyage through the Pacific Great Northwest last night. Awesome Box. And for DaP28? I don’t know......just make sure that quality control is actually used in the production and packaging process. Edit: OK, I’ll throw a guess/request for DaP28. 6-14-76. Although that really should be part of next year’s June ‘76 Box. Otherwise, 5-18-77 with filler the missing songs from 5-22-77. That would help fill in a gap.
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the 'Lemmy zone' hehe . I would love that show if he came out for a hot 'summertime blues' with the Dead . Jerry just smile smile smile g'damn it'd be magic...
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Good morning to you all, well it is morning here in the Burg’. I have been slowly getting into the PNW now. I had some discs that needed replacing which took some time to accomplish. So now that I have them in my possession it is has been great. I am listening to the shows in reverse order and I am getting into the shows from 73. Honestly I don't have much new to add. I think this box is great in both design and quality of music. The shows, once they get through opening anomalies (weird mixes, volume drops, etc...) sound great. It has been a long wait for me but now I am very happy with this box. I have to say that I have reached a point where I am feeling somewhat content with the number of shows I have. Between what Dick and then Dave and Co. have given us, plus Real Gone Music and eBay I have managed to get about everything i want. I am missing Dave's 1- 5, 7, 8. There is one Dave's I need to get out of that lot and that is #5. I got it once only to have stolen from the mail...bummer. I have a few Road Trips to get which Real Gone will do the job. There is a little chance that they will release the bonus discs, but I can live without them for now... Which brings up the looming announcement of Dave's Picks 28. I am all about a show from 1979. I have been requesting that for a while like many others. Or another 76 show - i think there are some untapped gems in there. I also wouldn't mind, if the sound quality is up to the standard, a show from 80-82. However one thing that the PNW box reminds me is that consistency and quality wise the shows from 69 -77 and then 89-90, are where I feel more shows should be pulled from. Now I am not discounting everything from 67-68, 78 -88 , and 91-95 . I stand by what I said about Dave's 27 - a show from 83- in that I liked it. I just hope we get releases of good shows both playing and sound wise regardless of the year. I just think the majority of those shows come from 69-77 and 89-90 periods and if Dave's 28, ends up being another show from say 1972 for example I won't be disappointed. If it ends up being from 1984 as long as sound and playing quality are at the standard (relatively speaking), I will be happy. When it is all said and done I am not trying to stir up an era debate. As I said, I like all eras. I will continue subscribe to the Dave's Picks series. I still think that hands down it is one of the best things any band has done for their fans. Adding a yearly box makes things that much sweeter.
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How about 7/18/76 Orpheum Theatre, awesome show, doesn't affect a future box set of 76, and we already have 7/16 and 7/17/76... I haven't guessed one right yet!!!! bob t
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I've been wondering about the error rate. Is it going up? How did it compare to the 1st contract or when GDP did releases. As far as it being Mexico just my opinion but if they can't make cds then you'd be reading about a lot more wheels flying off of cars. I'd like to see the error rate with a really big release. This was around 300,000 discs. What did the Beatles boxes or the new Beeb realease have in the way of problems.
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When Dozin at the Knick came out they had to resend a complete new CD out to everyone that ordered. That was in 1996
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Thanks for the replacement disc. I just didn't have the time to check 30 trips, for all defects. Thanks to all the other who sent me files. I will PM, each of you. My PNW box, 9 cds are in need of replacement. I actually had to purchase a second box set. I had to have 5/5/77 cds replaced. I used to not worry about GDCDs, however since the 11/73 box set, releases seem susceptible to issues. Have spoken to marye and doc rhino.
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Would just like to thank Marye, for effort provided on helping us all out. Whether its site monitoring or help/contact with Dr. Rhino. Such an invaluable resource. Thanks, JW
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For another '77 Pick. But when the time comes, I would really like a Normanized 2/26/77. That Slipknot! is so good - price of admission right there. Many others as well, not least of all, Phil's exuberant conclusion to Eyes of the World. Dark Star fever here. 8/30/69 (thanks for the recommendation Vguy), 10/25/69, and Fillmore West Complete's 4th show. I think I'll revisit 11/19/72 - I rampaged home on that one last night (nothing like a long drive and a decent car sound system.
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I love that Swing Auditorium 2/26/77 show and agree with your comments. I could see them sandbagging that show for the first or second release of next year's Dave's pick to increase subscription sales!! just a thought.. bob t
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