Dave's Picks Volume 25: Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, NY 11/6/77

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heatherlew

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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March 1, 2018 - 3:57am

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LoveJerry

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Kyle

You wrote "if you go and buy a box set on ebay for a thousand dollars its not really worth thousand dollars you're paying for." with all due respect,Your "argument" makes no sense and has no relevance to the discussion here. By your definition of "perceived value", nothing is worth anything (or everything is worth anything you want it to be). The discussion point here, is that the CD sets here are more valuable if they are no longer available at retail prices. $800 for Fillmore West or whatever the going price is, is not a perceived value it's the actual value. It's no different than the rookie Hank Aaron baseball card. It used to be worth the nickel you paid for the pack of cards, now it's worth much more because it's an old out-of-print collector's item. I think you were waxing Gestalt. Are we really here or do we just think we're here.....snafu's summary of stamp collecting is a good analogy too.
March 1, 2018 - 3:49am

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direwulf

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Gold has no value?

Gold is one of the most important natural resources in the Earth. If you don't believe me look of the uses for gold in the sciences, engineering and computer science. Without gold the modern world and its technologies could not and would not exist. At this point in human history gold is invaluable and a limited resource so it will continue to increase in price. Thats why tech companies are looking into gold reclaiming methods from obsolete device. Recycling precious, conductive and non-reactive metals is an up and coming billionaire dollar business in developing nations right now. Unfortunately the poorest of the poor often do the labor and are exposed to toxins,carcinogens, and unsafe working conditions to bring us our electronic toys. Many Americans and "first-world" citizens still ignorantly benefit off the backs of the less fortunate. Its not just our clothes, running shoes, and soccer balls anymore.
March 1, 2018 - 1:49am

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kyleharmon

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perceived value: a customer's

perceived value: a customer's opinion of a product's value to him or her. It may have little or nothing to do with the product's market price, and depends on the product's ability to satisfy his or her needs or requirements.
March 1, 2018 - 1:44am

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David Duryea

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value

Reading through all these posts makes me glad I invested all my money in tulips. Their value will never go down.
March 1, 2018 - 12:10am

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snafu

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Collectors value

To those who in response to my post on collectors say they never think of the value to other collectors or the market I understand but that just means your not a collector in the way I and most collectors define it. Not good not bad just irrelevant to the post. And to be honest "collectors" can be a little of both. My stamp collecting is 2 things to me. The value is definitely important but since I look at stamps as little works of art especially the older issues they have an aescetic value. As for GD releases it's much the same 1st comes the music but most definitely when I buy it as a ltd ed the collector in me thinks of the value appreciation. Too the younger members here how would you feel if some Michael Jordan special collectors sneaker was suddenly reissued dropping the value of your in the box etc etc sneaker by 75%
February 28, 2018 - 11:44pm

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snafu

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Economic illiteracy

It never fails to amaze me the economic illiteracy that's out there and I'm not just talking about posts here. The price something sells for is its value at that moment not perceived. It could change in a day but at the moment of sale it mpst assuredly is worth that. The basis involves many things. The classic where I live is the price of housing. Houses on the peninsula in the Bay Area are starting at 700,000 minimum. I hear usually frpm non homeowners or people from elsewhere they're not wprth that much. Of course that's absurd since if I price something that the market will bare it won't sell, pretty simple. And addressing the perceived perspective they not only continue to rise but even during the worst of the real estate crash they selling prices took a momentary small dip then flattened out and within a year started rising. At each point along the way the price a house sold for eas its real value. Now as I said there are many thing that impact real npt perceived value. You live in an area where the industrial base collapses -detroit- the real value decreases because demand for housing drops because people are leaving. Another cause of real value change are land use laws. In the Bay Area ther are huge areas of the Peninsula where home building is severely restricted raising the value of what's left.If they suddenly passed a law opening that land to full use the real value of ecosting would obviously crash. The pint os real reasons for real value.
February 28, 2018 - 10:47pm

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libertycaps97211

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S'all about the music, y'all!

I'm one of those old fuddie-duddie Gen X'ers who bought LPs when i was a kid and still enjoys having the "Real McCoy" item. And best retail CD sound quality, of course. If you are happy with lossy streams/mp3's and earbuds then: Good on you. Just so happens CDs sound the best. That's just the way it is. I have plenty of storage space so it's a WIN/WIN. If i was ever financially forced to sell, i'd be chuffed to just break even money wise. In fact i just bought DiP 6 (dunno why i slept on it for so long) which only leaves 27 missing from my Dick's Picks retail collection. And for the poster with all the Hendrix bootlegs: I'm sure you'd do just fine on ebay or discogs if you wanted to resell. (Might have to work fast due to the unlicensed music though.) As long as i keep my good job and good health, i will continue to buy retail CDs. Killer music and vintage audio gear is my life's one true passion. No kids. No wife anymore. No flash car payments. No regrets.
February 28, 2018 - 10:32pm

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libertycaps97211

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Perceived value

Agreed. It's in the eye of the beholder. I paid $362 shipped to my door for the MAY 1977 2013 Box Set a month or two ago. Pens out to $26 per disc. The package and booklet are GSTL Ltd. Ed. level too. The shows all have that lovely, aquatic/lyseric jazzy cool Betty Board reverb that just does it for me and my Genalex Gold Lion KT88 output tubes. Def my fave era of the band. It's like they were listening to alot of Steely Dan and/or chasing the Dragon in the tour bus between that run of shows. (That's a good thing imho, Lols.)
February 28, 2018 - 10:05pm

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Vguy72

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In case you were wondering....

....I didn't sell a puck. "A" puck sold for that.
February 28, 2018 - 10:05pm

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kyleharmon

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well liberty caps they really

well liberty caps they really aren't worth 60 bucks a disc. or any other limited product sold on ebay for that matter. they are sold at "perceived value" which is different from the actual value of a product. gold is worthless it serves no purpose. but because people want it cuz other people want it, It has "perceived value" and its expensive. so I mean if you go and buy a box set on ebay for a thousand dollars its not really worth thousand dollars you're paying for.

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

Amazing insight

Thanks for this post space! Great insight to a critical time in Dead history. Grateful as always...

90's shows

Feel very lucky and blessed to have seen the Boys @ Autzen Stadium 8/22/93 and again in '94. But like spacebro mentioned, the dip from '93 to '94 was tangible. Had the opportunity to see a '95 Portland show, but decided to pass. TBH, i wasn't nearly the rabid fan then i am now. So much amazing music happening in the mid-90's. I was much more into warehouse raves and disco biscuits at the time. Heh.

Jam of the Week -URGENT

If you have not already heard, leave here at once, it's 4/23/77 ROLL AWAY THE DEW! I think it vanishes in a few hours!! FEATURES>JAM OF THE WEEK at least an hour of one of the top ten all time shows

Dave's Picks vol. 25 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo

My Dave's Picks vol. 25 has finally arrived here (original order was MIA, thanks to Brazil's awful customs/mail services), and I'm totally amazed with the "Mississippi..." version here! Can someone recommend another version as fantastic as this one, please??

Marcello

That half-step is possibly the best one. Glad you finally got your DaP25. Hope 26 didn’t go missing.

hi Marcello , here is a few

download series volume 1 - April 30 1977 with a few highlights from previous night, maybe available on itunes ? hopefully you can access these from Brasil. I remember traveling through the nordeste of Brasil and this was one I enjoyed a bunch. Especially Peggy-O" "Looks Like Rain" "Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodeloo" all 3 in a row. "Brave the Storm to come" Others were "Friend Of The Devil" St. Stephen -> Not Fade Away > Stella Blue > St. Stephen !!!! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel" ~ One of the best https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_Download_Series_Volume_1 its a great download. May 1977 has quite a few of the other top tier performances 5.7.77 5.12.77 5.17.77 9.3.77 11.5.77 , all of these dates have been released, the only one that maybe easy to find and purchase is 9.3.77 aka Dicks Picks 15 a couple from other years are 8.5.74 aka Dicks Picks 31 and 7.12.89 RFK Summer 1989 Box set. I was just commenting on Daves Picks 26 page about this one and the Half-Step you mention and then I saw your post. what part of brasil are you at ?

Half-Step April 1977 Tapers section

check this one out, i have been the last couple of weeks. its a good one too http://www.dead.net/sites/all/themes/dead2013/jplayer/?url=https://sos2….

Finally, DaP 25 arrives

Finally after much delay...15039 is on the player as I type. On 1st listen, Set 1 is great, I now 'ave a deeper appreciation for 1/2 Step - killer!

BCE

Is that a replacement, or was it ‘lost in the mail’?If replacement, does it have a number?

just a guess

BCE got it off of Amazon from recently discovered overstock...

'Cats under the stars' & 'The Wheel' mirror

At first, thanks to all who have been visited my mirrors, mostly XL 'Cats under the stars' mirror listed in cat shop. The mirror is ready for shipping worldwide, you can find it here: https://www.etsy.com/listing/595957100/cats-under-the-stars-mirror-jerr… I'm working currently on another mirror dedicated to Jerry. It's 'The Wheel' mirror, with the lyrics applied on the back side of the mirror. Hasn't been listed yet, but for Jerrys's birthday I listed psychedelic Jerry's hand made as a wall mirror: https://www.etsy.com/listing/632494283/psychedelic-jerry-garcia-hand-de…

Lost in the mail

It was lost in the United States Postal Service system.Much frustration with the delay, now turned to joy. The only date I think I see on the label is in the lower section under the 2nd bar code and above the description, which reads: 01/2018. There is also the 3rd of 4 bar codes on the label in that box.

Fortune comes a-callin'...

While it's not surprising that tix to the P&F Headcount Benefit Friday at the Apollo tumbled down several echelons of the firm's socioeconomic caste without claim, I still consider their availability a great fortune. Having never visited, attending any performance at that historically significant venue for the (my) first time would have been cause for a bucketlist deduction, but this was clearly special. Though tired, I returned home to discover that 2018's stellar - and costly - box set run would continue with the wish-list-topping (now that Szell is out) release of BOTT material for Dylan's 14th Bootleg installment. Because the amazon.uk page appears to address a Japanese import edition, I shouldn't imagine that the price quoted for this (purportedly) 6-disc release will be as exorbitant for the conventional Euro & US versions./K https://www.amazon.co.uk/More-Blood-Tracks-Bob-Dylan/dp/B07GVXL5DQ/ref=…

Shout out to the old Eleven - I miss you guys! :)

Gold Key

Rather wondering when someone was going to mention it; I thought it was just ephemera that bore some metaphysical correlation to page 5 of the accompanying text.

Friday Eve

Technology fosters a certain audiologic pedantry that discounts the practical difficulties of archival transfers. Still, while a bit of the 2-track blues is understandable, Plangent alchemy has affected significant sonic upgrades to existing sources. Portland 74 is a well-known quantity to most, but the Truckin' Jam is a luminescent passage that defies contempt for even acute familiarity. While my favourite GDTRFBs tend to grind like roughly upshifted semi gears in transition from the preceding track, this strong rendition ascends from NFA with deliberate fluidity; also, Keith's bubbly, assertive, sometimes catalystic play makes many first-set standards remarkable. The daughter of the woman who cleans house for me**, age 10, was so entranced by the PNW outer & small wood boxes - suggesting it would make for good jewelry storage - that I gifted it immediately; heck, I was only going to shelve it for the next 50 years (according to actuarial tables), but it's become the center of focus for child - if only for a short bit - who exhibits more enthusiasm than I'll ever muster after unboxing. Still, it's easily the most aesthetically pleasing musical release from top-to-bottom that I've ever seen. Couple disks heading back, but that's been par for the course since the beginning, and I've never had a problem with speedy replacement. **This really isn't saying much in-and-of-itself: in Appalachia, if you've got something then it's implied that you will try to help others, and the most dignified way to do is offering work that you might otherwise undertake yourself. You'd be surprised the difference even a little makes here at altitude. :)

"Billy Sue"...

...she's what's yer life's been missing. Caution: the related video library is quite nearly addictive as the ETOH in Billy's 64 oz., genetically attached megathermos.

Fall Tour!

Phish tix in the po'box this p.m.; unlike Lockn where I at least feign roughing it in rolling 4 **** accommodations, I've decided my Outback and bricknmortar lodgings will do just fine on what should be an adventurous run from Hampton to Vegas between 10/19 and Halloween Night in Sin City. I'm only taking one show in Rosemont to facilitate a leisurely slog west, to include a one-night cabin rental in Grand Teton before spending another night in SLC (never visited either!). Near-universal wifi and a mobile workstation have revolutionized my quality of life more than quilted toilet paper, hot water heaters, and Trader Joe's Cookie Butter (though none are indispensable at this point). I've got trail running routes mapped along the way in addition to having identified a couple Y's where I can day pass into lap swimming. Happy.

If anyone is looking for…

If anyone is looking for this or any of this year's Dave's Picks, shoot me a PM. $25 plus shipping. The bonus disk is an additional $25.

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