Dave's Picks Volume 25: Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, NY 11/6/77

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heatherlew

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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February 12, 2018 - 10:56am

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Thin

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Daverock - CD's - some still buy, but not many

In 2002 CD sales accounted for 96% of recorded music sales. By 2017, CDs sales accounted for 15% of recorded music sales. Without the Dave's Picks series/other releases it would probably be about 10% :) I haven't bought any physical CD's at all in at least 10 years (exc. GD). I just buy the songs I want and download onto my phone from wherever I am.
February 12, 2018 - 10:20am

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Lovemygirl

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'My brothers and sisters... ;)

...every one please take a positive deep breath in and exhale the negative, young grasshopper... :) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ
February 12, 2018 - 10:02am

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daverock

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Drcomedy1966

Yes, that could set a few alarm bells ringing-both the fact that I received my copy last week, and that you have had post go missing in the recent past. They do travel a convoluted route from America to England-I think its via Switzerland or somewhere. With the benefit that we no longer have to pay the extortionate duty costs that we had to pay for the first few years. But still...it should have got to you by now I would have thought.
February 12, 2018 - 9:57am

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daverock

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Thin-no one buys cds

With respect, I feel I must say I still buy loads of cds. And never listen to music on the net.
February 12, 2018 - 9:50am

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Heywood Jablome

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I don't get the hype...

I don't get the hype of this release. While it has some decent moments there is nothing that blows me away and will make me pull this off the shelf very often. It's an average show at best and with so many other good shows yet to be released I don't know how this made the cut.
February 12, 2018 - 9:11am

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Mr.Dc

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Dissident

Alright Dissident I just thought your perspective wass literally as you stated "unauthorized? again, I don't need some official to tell me what is ok and what isn't" and "it's a band dude ... a rich band ... ". I personally get an "I don't care what/how TPTB feel about this" vibe from that, if that's not how you really feel than ok sorry, but those quotes are why I assumed that was your stance. Show me where I made anything more nasty, or attacked/implied/attributed anything to anyone... Things only got a little weird after you made a post with me as your headline, addressing how you thought I felt. I accept your apology, and literally the only thing aggravating was your ignorance and subsequent dismissal of my reply that you yourself provoked from me. I'm sorry if you feel like people are attacking you specifically, though I have stated in every comment/post that that wasn't my personal intent. I know things can be read the wrong way, or taken differently than a person intends and for my own shortcomings in writing I also apologize, literally at no point was I trying to be nasty towards you personally, but I will respond when my name comes up and things are implied/attributed to me, for the most part.
February 12, 2018 - 8:47am

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Thin

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Unkle Sam

You wrote "bootlegs would not be necessary if the ptb released shows we want". In case you or others aren't aware, the ptb have endorsed the public consumption of every show and song that has EVER circulated on archive.org. You can listen to any show right now if ya want. There are apps that you can install that provide easy access in a very handy interface. Very few big acts do that. http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/ Frankly the CD-pirate debate is moot since a) No one buys CDs anymore and 2) it's all free on the 'net anyway....
February 12, 2018 - 8:32am

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Mr.Dc

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Final word

If you randomly accuse someone of feeling a certain way, or imply things about that person, one would think you would read and respond to the person when they ask why one thinks theses things. I was accused of "much consternation", "hostility", and "making a big deal" due to one or two posts in which I said promoting bootlegs on this site is inappropriate, I fail to see how that implies either of those. Just because someone doesn't agree with you on one thing or criticizes an action made by a person does not imply an attack on that person specifically, again I feel this has been a civil/friendly discussion for the most part up until you started implying/attributing other ideas/emotions to specific people by name. "Must I reply to every comment?", what a disgusting sentiment to put forward in this context, made stranger by the fact that you specifically engaged me in this discussion. Almost as nasty as these statements you also made: "unauthorized? again, I don't need some official to tell me what is ok and what isn't" and "it's a band dude ... a rich band ... ". If you just came right out in the beginning with those statements than this discussion would've been over before it began, now we all know were your at... "F them, I do what I want". I hope you do watch the interview, maybe you'll stop trying to use an out of context quote to defend something the person your misquoting was actually not down with.
February 12, 2018 - 8:21am

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Thin

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"F--- you, we'll do what we want"

So by your logic, if I'm short on rent one month, It'd be OK to create 100 Dead boxes and peddle them to coffee shops and record stores in Boston - "Summer '73!", making $20 profit on each = $2,000! No problem! Heck, let's make another next month - Boston Tea Party '69! LOL. You presented Jerry's "when we're done with it they can have it" to validate and endorse pirating.... As long as you hold Jerry's words as gospel, from the "Jerry interview" posted below: "I think bootlegging is a burn - I prefer the tape exchanges and that sort of stuff because there's no profit in there. I have no objection to people having access to the music - that part of it doesn't bother me. But the thing of someone profiteering - that's annoying because people are paying money for stuff where someone isn't being cautious about quality... and its a burn, frankly, when someone just takes a cassette recording and puts it on a disc and sells people the disc. I realize people want the performances, but I can't go a long with that. If the bootleggers paid as much attention to quality as we do, I wouldn't have any complaints EXCEPT the fact that they're burning us." I picture you arguing a speeding ticket using the logic of 90's gate-crashers: "But officer, speeding is no big deal! The state is rich and doesn't need my fine $.... F--- you - we'll do what we want!!!" That kind of logic dominated the scene at some 90's shows - it didn't go well.
February 12, 2018 - 8:09am

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simonrob

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Seems like we've been here before...

Most of the multitude of live FM performances that have been released in the last couple of years on a variety of labels all come from one source based in Cyprus (not the most law-abiding place in Europe). In Europe, such releases are legal, seemingly because radio stations have the copyright of the shows they aired. The situation would seem to be different in the US. I am not prepared to spend the time to determine what precisely is legal in various countries. There are literally hundreds of such releases, many by the Grateful Dead (of which the yellow box is just one). To waste time and energy debating the legality and the desirability of such releases seems fatuous. They exist, you can buy 'em if you want or you can leave them if you so desire. It is as simple as that. To try and take the moral high ground without fully knowing the facts is to leave yourself open to criticism - which may be just as unfounded.

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

Amazing insight

Thanks for this post space! Great insight to a critical time in Dead history. Grateful as always...

90's shows

Feel very lucky and blessed to have seen the Boys @ Autzen Stadium 8/22/93 and again in '94. But like spacebro mentioned, the dip from '93 to '94 was tangible. Had the opportunity to see a '95 Portland show, but decided to pass. TBH, i wasn't nearly the rabid fan then i am now. So much amazing music happening in the mid-90's. I was much more into warehouse raves and disco biscuits at the time. Heh.

Jam of the Week -URGENT

If you have not already heard, leave here at once, it's 4/23/77 ROLL AWAY THE DEW! I think it vanishes in a few hours!! FEATURES>JAM OF THE WEEK at least an hour of one of the top ten all time shows

Dave's Picks vol. 25 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo

My Dave's Picks vol. 25 has finally arrived here (original order was MIA, thanks to Brazil's awful customs/mail services), and I'm totally amazed with the "Mississippi..." version here! Can someone recommend another version as fantastic as this one, please??

Marcello

That half-step is possibly the best one. Glad you finally got your DaP25. Hope 26 didn’t go missing.

hi Marcello , here is a few

download series volume 1 - April 30 1977 with a few highlights from previous night, maybe available on itunes ? hopefully you can access these from Brasil. I remember traveling through the nordeste of Brasil and this was one I enjoyed a bunch. Especially Peggy-O" "Looks Like Rain" "Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodeloo" all 3 in a row. "Brave the Storm to come" Others were "Friend Of The Devil" St. Stephen -> Not Fade Away > Stella Blue > St. Stephen !!!! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel" ~ One of the best https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_Download_Series_Volume_1 its a great download. May 1977 has quite a few of the other top tier performances 5.7.77 5.12.77 5.17.77 9.3.77 11.5.77 , all of these dates have been released, the only one that maybe easy to find and purchase is 9.3.77 aka Dicks Picks 15 a couple from other years are 8.5.74 aka Dicks Picks 31 and 7.12.89 RFK Summer 1989 Box set. I was just commenting on Daves Picks 26 page about this one and the Half-Step you mention and then I saw your post. what part of brasil are you at ?

Half-Step April 1977 Tapers section

check this one out, i have been the last couple of weeks. its a good one too http://www.dead.net/sites/all/themes/dead2013/jplayer/?url=https://sos2….

Finally, DaP 25 arrives

Finally after much delay...15039 is on the player as I type. On 1st listen, Set 1 is great, I now 'ave a deeper appreciation for 1/2 Step - killer!

BCE

Is that a replacement, or was it ‘lost in the mail’?If replacement, does it have a number?

just a guess

BCE got it off of Amazon from recently discovered overstock...

'Cats under the stars' & 'The Wheel' mirror

At first, thanks to all who have been visited my mirrors, mostly XL 'Cats under the stars' mirror listed in cat shop. The mirror is ready for shipping worldwide, you can find it here: https://www.etsy.com/listing/595957100/cats-under-the-stars-mirror-jerr… I'm working currently on another mirror dedicated to Jerry. It's 'The Wheel' mirror, with the lyrics applied on the back side of the mirror. Hasn't been listed yet, but for Jerrys's birthday I listed psychedelic Jerry's hand made as a wall mirror: https://www.etsy.com/listing/632494283/psychedelic-jerry-garcia-hand-de…

Lost in the mail

It was lost in the United States Postal Service system.Much frustration with the delay, now turned to joy. The only date I think I see on the label is in the lower section under the 2nd bar code and above the description, which reads: 01/2018. There is also the 3rd of 4 bar codes on the label in that box.

Fortune comes a-callin'...

While it's not surprising that tix to the P&F Headcount Benefit Friday at the Apollo tumbled down several echelons of the firm's socioeconomic caste without claim, I still consider their availability a great fortune. Having never visited, attending any performance at that historically significant venue for the (my) first time would have been cause for a bucketlist deduction, but this was clearly special. Though tired, I returned home to discover that 2018's stellar - and costly - box set run would continue with the wish-list-topping (now that Szell is out) release of BOTT material for Dylan's 14th Bootleg installment. Because the amazon.uk page appears to address a Japanese import edition, I shouldn't imagine that the price quoted for this (purportedly) 6-disc release will be as exorbitant for the conventional Euro & US versions./K https://www.amazon.co.uk/More-Blood-Tracks-Bob-Dylan/dp/B07GVXL5DQ/ref=…

Shout out to the old Eleven - I miss you guys! :)

Gold Key

Rather wondering when someone was going to mention it; I thought it was just ephemera that bore some metaphysical correlation to page 5 of the accompanying text.

Friday Eve

Technology fosters a certain audiologic pedantry that discounts the practical difficulties of archival transfers. Still, while a bit of the 2-track blues is understandable, Plangent alchemy has affected significant sonic upgrades to existing sources. Portland 74 is a well-known quantity to most, but the Truckin' Jam is a luminescent passage that defies contempt for even acute familiarity. While my favourite GDTRFBs tend to grind like roughly upshifted semi gears in transition from the preceding track, this strong rendition ascends from NFA with deliberate fluidity; also, Keith's bubbly, assertive, sometimes catalystic play makes many first-set standards remarkable. The daughter of the woman who cleans house for me**, age 10, was so entranced by the PNW outer & small wood boxes - suggesting it would make for good jewelry storage - that I gifted it immediately; heck, I was only going to shelve it for the next 50 years (according to actuarial tables), but it's become the center of focus for child - if only for a short bit - who exhibits more enthusiasm than I'll ever muster after unboxing. Still, it's easily the most aesthetically pleasing musical release from top-to-bottom that I've ever seen. Couple disks heading back, but that's been par for the course since the beginning, and I've never had a problem with speedy replacement. **This really isn't saying much in-and-of-itself: in Appalachia, if you've got something then it's implied that you will try to help others, and the most dignified way to do is offering work that you might otherwise undertake yourself. You'd be surprised the difference even a little makes here at altitude. :)

"Billy Sue"...

...she's what's yer life's been missing. Caution: the related video library is quite nearly addictive as the ETOH in Billy's 64 oz., genetically attached megathermos.

Fall Tour!

Phish tix in the po'box this p.m.; unlike Lockn where I at least feign roughing it in rolling 4 **** accommodations, I've decided my Outback and bricknmortar lodgings will do just fine on what should be an adventurous run from Hampton to Vegas between 10/19 and Halloween Night in Sin City. I'm only taking one show in Rosemont to facilitate a leisurely slog west, to include a one-night cabin rental in Grand Teton before spending another night in SLC (never visited either!). Near-universal wifi and a mobile workstation have revolutionized my quality of life more than quilted toilet paper, hot water heaters, and Trader Joe's Cookie Butter (though none are indispensable at this point). I've got trail running routes mapped along the way in addition to having identified a couple Y's where I can day pass into lap swimming. Happy.

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If anyone is looking for this or any of this year's Dave's Picks, shoot me a PM. $25 plus shipping. The bonus disk is an additional $25.

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