Dave's Picks Volume 25: Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, NY 11/6/77

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heatherlew

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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February 11, 2018 - 9:51am

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Roguedeadguy

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Mr Pete

Check out the Nugs.net site. They appear to have all the Dead & Co shows available on physical CD, in addition to a multitude of download formats. I've bought a few shows on CD from them over the years (other bands, not D&C) and they're excellent quality SBDs. Sometimes I get the CD as a souvenir of sorts when it was a particularly mind melting show. Usually shows are available on that site within a day or two after the performance. Let me know if you have any other questions or if you're not seeing what I'm seeing.
February 11, 2018 - 9:21am

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JimInMD

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Take a Deep Breath

I didn't see the words scum and leeches in Doc's comments. This subject has come up before, I took his reach out to be more an act of hey.. I will send anyone this for free if you like, no questions asked. The harsh comments were not directed towards dissident, just another persons view of the organization that put together that box set. Certainly not towards anyone here. I really take this whole conversation as just more clarity on what that box set is. Is that fair to say, I did not read any of these comments as personal barbs or jabs. I personally do not hold any ill will for someone buying this box and expressing hype that he/she likes it. But I do see some value is a poster here saying, hey.. that's great, but I would gladly send anyone else interested the same thing for free, sans packaging and cut the middleman out of the loop.
February 11, 2018 - 8:22am

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LedDed

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February 16, 2017

1971

I too have the yellow 1971 box, I got mine really cheap, like $30. The sound is up and down, kind of middling like other radio broadcast releases. The point is having the shows that haven't been officially released. There is no moral or ethical quandary here about buying bootlegs. I'll buy a T-shirt in a parking lot. The band are all millionaires - and they get plenty of my money also. The official releases sound the best of anything out there - by far. Even the premier taper's shows are lacking in fidelity by comparison. I'll listen to some of those shows maybe one time for the experience but then have to run and blast out a Normanized-show to cleanse my ears. Even the 30 Days of Dead downloads here every November sound like crap. The quality of a cd or even an Apple download blows those away, sound-wise.
February 11, 2018 - 7:34am

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Thin

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Give Doc a break

Whoa, WHOA dissident... Easy on Doc. Why does everyone pounce all over each other with daggers at the drop of a hat? If anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's Doc. Doc's not a hypocrite and he's not scolding anyone for buying bootleg shows - he's just pointing out that they are technically illegal, and the Dead sees no profit from the scum who flood the market with product that they have no quality-control over and see no profit from. I think Doc is more likely "sticking it to the leeches" by offering for free a show the leeches are trying to sell you for $40. I bought some bootleg shows on CD back in the day just because it was my ONLY way in, before I got hip to trading. I wasn't proud to support the leeches, but I HAD HAD HAD to hear 4/28/71, or 5/8/77, at the time, so I bought it. Doc is sharing shows, just as ALL of us share shows, right? There is nothing wrong with that - it's what we've all done for decades, right? Am I missing something here? The sales of Dave's Picks are going UP despite the incredible ease of streaming, downloading and file-sharing. Trading and sharing shows INCREASES interest in the commercial product. The model works.
February 11, 2018 - 7:26am

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icecrmcnkd

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I pay for better sound and the Full Norman

I don’t read the liner notes (can’t, the type is too small and often printed with a color that blends with the background) and only look at the artwork when first received. Then I make a CD-R copy to listen to and put the original in storage. I have over 4TB of torrent FLAC but still buy every release because they usually sound better and often include missing pieces (1-22-78). So buying official releases makes sense. Bootleggers just get the same torrents I already have and package them up. This was all previously discussed on another thread when that 71 box was announced.
February 11, 2018 - 7:21am

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Forensicdoceleven

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Youth is the gift of nature, but age is a work of art

Yo rockers!!! Before this turns into a painful and public flame war, let me say this about that........ But first, a disclaimer. Have I ever bought a bootleg Dead product? You bet. Back in 1979, I bought about 4 or 5 bootleg Dead albums. However, once I discovered free trading networks, that ended.... As somebody said, it IS about the music. And when I share, I don't "package" it. I send just the music, people can decide for themselves whether it has merit or not. That applies to 1971 or any other year. For those who care, here's the logic: In doing what I do, the Dead aren't losing any money----but that's not the point. The point is, I don't profit from the creative act of the artist. Bootleggers do. If people don't see that difference, well................ And just for the record, and this is just one man's opinion, in this forum you don't do a "public service" by promoting bootleggers............... Anybody who wishes to continue the debate, that's why pm was invented........... Doc
February 11, 2018 - 6:42am

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Mr.Dc

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71 bootleg box

One is basically paying bootleggers for cardboard with grateful dead related images and notes when it comes to that 1971 yellow FM boxset. One can even read/print out all the liner notes and see high quality scans of all its contents on discogs, so there isn't even that incentive either. This is my opinion of course, I mean no offense.
February 11, 2018 - 6:26am

#2248

icecrmcnkd

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Dissident

Why would you pay for something that you can get for free?Free from Doc (as long as it’s in the range of 71-71) and free from the magical torrents (all years). The Dead also don’t get a penny if Doc gives it to you, but Doc gets the satisfaction of spreading the gospel of 71.
February 11, 2018 - 5:25am

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Forensicdoceleven

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A lot of pop music is about stealing pocket money from children

Morning rockers!!!! I thought I smelled some comments about 1971. Serves me right for sniffing around............ That previously mentioned 1971 FM box set is a well known bootleg artifact that is completely legal in Europe. Less so here in the US of A. If you buy it, keep in mind that the Dead don't see a penny of that, it all goes to the bootleggers........... If anybody out there is interested in those shows, I will send them to you for FREE. Yes, FREE. Free exchange of music, wrap yer Sunday morning mind around that concept........... Miss me yet? LMAO!!!! Back to lurker mode................ Rock on, Doc Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall
February 11, 2018 - 4:49am

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daverock

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Fall 71 box set

I agree, with Dissident, a great box. Every show is worth hearing, especially 11/7/71 Harding Theater.

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

Amazing insight

Thanks for this post space! Great insight to a critical time in Dead history. Grateful as always...

90's shows

Feel very lucky and blessed to have seen the Boys @ Autzen Stadium 8/22/93 and again in '94. But like spacebro mentioned, the dip from '93 to '94 was tangible. Had the opportunity to see a '95 Portland show, but decided to pass. TBH, i wasn't nearly the rabid fan then i am now. So much amazing music happening in the mid-90's. I was much more into warehouse raves and disco biscuits at the time. Heh.

Jam of the Week -URGENT

If you have not already heard, leave here at once, it's 4/23/77 ROLL AWAY THE DEW! I think it vanishes in a few hours!! FEATURES>JAM OF THE WEEK at least an hour of one of the top ten all time shows

Dave's Picks vol. 25 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo

My Dave's Picks vol. 25 has finally arrived here (original order was MIA, thanks to Brazil's awful customs/mail services), and I'm totally amazed with the "Mississippi..." version here! Can someone recommend another version as fantastic as this one, please??

Marcello

That half-step is possibly the best one. Glad you finally got your DaP25. Hope 26 didn’t go missing.

hi Marcello , here is a few

download series volume 1 - April 30 1977 with a few highlights from previous night, maybe available on itunes ? hopefully you can access these from Brasil. I remember traveling through the nordeste of Brasil and this was one I enjoyed a bunch. Especially Peggy-O" "Looks Like Rain" "Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodeloo" all 3 in a row. "Brave the Storm to come" Others were "Friend Of The Devil" St. Stephen -> Not Fade Away > Stella Blue > St. Stephen !!!! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel" ~ One of the best https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_Download_Series_Volume_1 its a great download. May 1977 has quite a few of the other top tier performances 5.7.77 5.12.77 5.17.77 9.3.77 11.5.77 , all of these dates have been released, the only one that maybe easy to find and purchase is 9.3.77 aka Dicks Picks 15 a couple from other years are 8.5.74 aka Dicks Picks 31 and 7.12.89 RFK Summer 1989 Box set. I was just commenting on Daves Picks 26 page about this one and the Half-Step you mention and then I saw your post. what part of brasil are you at ?

Half-Step April 1977 Tapers section

check this one out, i have been the last couple of weeks. its a good one too http://www.dead.net/sites/all/themes/dead2013/jplayer/?url=https://sos2….

Finally, DaP 25 arrives

Finally after much delay...15039 is on the player as I type. On 1st listen, Set 1 is great, I now 'ave a deeper appreciation for 1/2 Step - killer!

BCE

Is that a replacement, or was it ‘lost in the mail’?If replacement, does it have a number?

just a guess

BCE got it off of Amazon from recently discovered overstock...

'Cats under the stars' & 'The Wheel' mirror

At first, thanks to all who have been visited my mirrors, mostly XL 'Cats under the stars' mirror listed in cat shop. The mirror is ready for shipping worldwide, you can find it here: https://www.etsy.com/listing/595957100/cats-under-the-stars-mirror-jerr… I'm working currently on another mirror dedicated to Jerry. It's 'The Wheel' mirror, with the lyrics applied on the back side of the mirror. Hasn't been listed yet, but for Jerrys's birthday I listed psychedelic Jerry's hand made as a wall mirror: https://www.etsy.com/listing/632494283/psychedelic-jerry-garcia-hand-de…

Lost in the mail

It was lost in the United States Postal Service system.Much frustration with the delay, now turned to joy. The only date I think I see on the label is in the lower section under the 2nd bar code and above the description, which reads: 01/2018. There is also the 3rd of 4 bar codes on the label in that box.

Fortune comes a-callin'...

While it's not surprising that tix to the P&F Headcount Benefit Friday at the Apollo tumbled down several echelons of the firm's socioeconomic caste without claim, I still consider their availability a great fortune. Having never visited, attending any performance at that historically significant venue for the (my) first time would have been cause for a bucketlist deduction, but this was clearly special. Though tired, I returned home to discover that 2018's stellar - and costly - box set run would continue with the wish-list-topping (now that Szell is out) release of BOTT material for Dylan's 14th Bootleg installment. Because the amazon.uk page appears to address a Japanese import edition, I shouldn't imagine that the price quoted for this (purportedly) 6-disc release will be as exorbitant for the conventional Euro & US versions./K https://www.amazon.co.uk/More-Blood-Tracks-Bob-Dylan/dp/B07GVXL5DQ/ref=…

Shout out to the old Eleven - I miss you guys! :)

Gold Key

Rather wondering when someone was going to mention it; I thought it was just ephemera that bore some metaphysical correlation to page 5 of the accompanying text.

Friday Eve

Technology fosters a certain audiologic pedantry that discounts the practical difficulties of archival transfers. Still, while a bit of the 2-track blues is understandable, Plangent alchemy has affected significant sonic upgrades to existing sources. Portland 74 is a well-known quantity to most, but the Truckin' Jam is a luminescent passage that defies contempt for even acute familiarity. While my favourite GDTRFBs tend to grind like roughly upshifted semi gears in transition from the preceding track, this strong rendition ascends from NFA with deliberate fluidity; also, Keith's bubbly, assertive, sometimes catalystic play makes many first-set standards remarkable. The daughter of the woman who cleans house for me**, age 10, was so entranced by the PNW outer & small wood boxes - suggesting it would make for good jewelry storage - that I gifted it immediately; heck, I was only going to shelve it for the next 50 years (according to actuarial tables), but it's become the center of focus for child - if only for a short bit - who exhibits more enthusiasm than I'll ever muster after unboxing. Still, it's easily the most aesthetically pleasing musical release from top-to-bottom that I've ever seen. Couple disks heading back, but that's been par for the course since the beginning, and I've never had a problem with speedy replacement. **This really isn't saying much in-and-of-itself: in Appalachia, if you've got something then it's implied that you will try to help others, and the most dignified way to do is offering work that you might otherwise undertake yourself. You'd be surprised the difference even a little makes here at altitude. :)

"Billy Sue"...

...she's what's yer life's been missing. Caution: the related video library is quite nearly addictive as the ETOH in Billy's 64 oz., genetically attached megathermos.

Fall Tour!

Phish tix in the po'box this p.m.; unlike Lockn where I at least feign roughing it in rolling 4 **** accommodations, I've decided my Outback and bricknmortar lodgings will do just fine on what should be an adventurous run from Hampton to Vegas between 10/19 and Halloween Night in Sin City. I'm only taking one show in Rosemont to facilitate a leisurely slog west, to include a one-night cabin rental in Grand Teton before spending another night in SLC (never visited either!). Near-universal wifi and a mobile workstation have revolutionized my quality of life more than quilted toilet paper, hot water heaters, and Trader Joe's Cookie Butter (though none are indispensable at this point). I've got trail running routes mapped along the way in addition to having identified a couple Y's where I can day pass into lap swimming. Happy.

If anyone is looking for…

If anyone is looking for this or any of this year's Dave's Picks, shoot me a PM. $25 plus shipping. The bonus disk is an additional $25.

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