Dave's Picks Volume 27: Boise State University Pavilion, Boise ID 9/02/83

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heatherlew

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 30, 2018 - 7:02am

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JeffSmith

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"Limited Edition" means what!?

RE: https://www.amazon.com/s?marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=A10MCNMI6XFGSK&… The unannounced appearance of the WarnerMarket on amazon offering once "sold out", "limited edition" GD releases would seem to require some explanation from the powers that be. Most of us on these dead-dot-net forums and so many others scramble and stress every time a new "limited edition" release is announced. And after the dust settles and the release sells out, many who missed out must submit to (sometimes much) higher prices from resellers. It is insensitive at best, when Rhino/Warner, with nary a word of explanation, begins offering these once sold out releases at original, pre-release prices (in the case of Dave's Picks at the early bird subscription price and WITH BONUS CDs where applicable). Forget the ethical "right thing to do" argument. What does this do to Rhino's vaunted business model of the "limited edition release" that many of us have written about and even defended over the years? If they're simply liquidating overstock, why not alert the hard-core faithful on these forums and elsewhere in advance and WITH A SYMPATHETIC EXPLANATION? Maybe/hopefully these again-available releases were withheld from initial sale as potential replacements. Who knows? Their out-of-the-blue appearance on amazon is a blow to any trust that we may have had in Rhino and Warner. Hopefully a believable explanation is forthcoming, but my heart goes out to the poor heads who got shut out on Thirty Trips and saved up and bought one on eBay for 1,500.00 or more.
July 30, 2018 - 3:21am

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daverock

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Bob's slide

I wasn't keen on it myself-but one thing that can be said in his favour is that he didn't rely on tried and tested licks when he played. He seemed to be trying to take the style into areas that no one else had. It was experimental, which was true to the spirit of the band at its best. And genuine experiments don't always work. It was the same with his rhythm guitar style - it doesn't sound like anyone else. Another experimental approach, but this time one that worked beautifully. And whether you like it or not, it has to be said that no one played slide guitar quite like Bob Weir!
July 29, 2018 - 11:33pm

#1173

rrussell8

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Tale of the Tape

One of the lesser problems with the eighties is the use of cassette tape for the soundboard recordings.
July 29, 2018 - 10:34pm

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MV1967

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I agree with your assessment.

I agree with your assessment. I have been spoiled by all the excellent 70's material released in the last few years.
July 29, 2018 - 10:14pm

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Vguy72

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That Amazon link....

....I too, am intrigued/confused. The family and I just finished watching Isle Of Dogs. Love me some stop motion animation. Love me some dogs. Instant classic. Wes Anderson is a genius. Bravo.
July 29, 2018 - 10:08pm

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Terrapin Moon

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July 29, 2018 - 9:35pm

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Seth Hollander

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Warner Market Amazon ... whaaaaaaat?

The link posted by "bakerflippd" leads to many Dave's Picks supposedly on sale for 28.95 each. DaP26 is there WITH (subscribers-only)BONUS DISC for 28.95!And they supposedly have 30 Trips in stock for $699! WTF! https://www.amazon.com/Trips-Around-Sun-Grateful-Dead/dp/B07FYS8P4T/ref… So, they have a bunch of "sold out" stuff on sale at face price! Why did we all not already know about this and how do "sold out" and "available at face" go together? If you missed out on anything here that "sold out" recently, follow that link!
July 29, 2018 - 8:44pm

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Terrapin Moon

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July 29, 2018 - 7:30pm

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alvarhanso

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DaP 27 sound

It's a weird mix. I'm up to Eyes and the most glaring things are how loud the vocals are (and Healy's effects, particularly the weird room reverb on Mama Tried and Big River) and the loudness of the keyboards, and the rather quietness of the guitars. It does get better on Jerry's solos, but it starts out with Brent drowning them out. Songs are played well on the whole, the sound has more punch to it than most '80s boards, so that's a plus. A decent Pick, not one that will come off the shelf often, but few of them really do. I have so many shows in box sets on another shelf, and I'm fully expecting to listen to the impending 46 min Playing in the Band more times than the HelpSlipFrank on this set. That may also be true of most of the 11/6/77 Pick earlier this year, I loved the Half Step, Straw, Music Never Stopped, and Truckin', the rest is good. So much music, so little time, basically... To SamT the 1983-84, '87-'89 Trips were the best of the '80s to me, in sound and playing quality. 1982 is a great show with terrible sound, so your choice on that one.
July 29, 2018 - 7:19pm

#1180

Brian2005l

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Sound Quality and Dave's Picks Vol. 8

Having read up, I think folks are just looking for different things in the sound department. This is not a Jerry up front mix. It's more of a balanced mix. If that's what you're looking for, I think it actually sounds better than Dick's Picks 15 (though that's a fantastic show). That one had some issues (low Bobby; boomy Phil; all treble drums; distortion on Jerry's vocals and sometimes the piano). For DaP 27, the guy who said that Jerry's voice is a little recessed is right, but I don't think it's a deal breaker. Drums could be louder for me, too. Also, it's true that the cassette stuff doesn't sound as good as the reel to reel. To me it sounds like the high and low end are rolled off. Not sure if cassettes do that (I bet they do). Other than that though, it sounds clear and well-mixed to me. I had no problem locating the instruments and following different folks. Sounds great. DaP 8, on the other hand, sounds off a bit for me. I'm not sure exactly what it is. The release is a "matrix," and I think I've heard folks speculate that there were issues with how the AUD and SBD sources synced up. That's also one of those widely heralded shows that just never quite clicked for me, so I may just be mis-remembering. I like DaP 27 better on all fronts.

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

DP 28 Guess

My best guess is Las Vegas Ice Palace, March 29th, 1969.......not sure how that fits with the USA clue, but seems to fit OK with the other 2 clues? Santana opened for the GOGD along with a local Vegas band called The Free Circus....Batdorf and Rodney formed in Vegas shortly after thisand would have played this venue many times. Seems they opened for many bands in the 70's but could not find any reference of them opening for the Grateful Dead. We will know soon! KCJ

DP 28 Guess

10/02/76- River Front Coliseum - Cincinnati, OH

Boston '76

Another '76 show from the Boston Music Hall would be nice. I mean, since we're speculating. But I'm open to whatever comes my way.

speculation

"DP 28 Guess10/02/76- River Front Coliseum - Cincinnati, OH" I believe this show was part of the 30 Trips box set. I would not mind getting the night previous, 10/1/1976, Market Square Arena, Indianapolis. It would be two releases in a row centered on Help>Slip>Franklin's, but I don't have a problem with that! If you want a Cincy show, how about 4/8/89? That's a fun one.

speculation

Re: Speculation

Cobo Arena, Detroit, 10/3/76 was included in the 30 Trips box. Though either 10/1 or 10/2 would definitely be a welcome addition (for me at least). That 10/1 Market Square is a sweet ride for sure.

Re: DP28/76

oops

Re: DP28/76

oops

Re: DP28/76

sorry about duplicates, not sure what happened

Re: DP28/76

If we're speculating, listing our wish-list, and talking 76 and h/s/f, give us 8/4! Otherwise, I can't imagine another 77 for this year, but that Dekalb 77 call would be amazing. Both are pretty well-circulated boards already, I've got some XLIIs of them somewhere or other, so perhaps unnecessary or not in line with the DP mission...anyway, soon!

USA = Bicentennial year of 1976

First and only Silver LP was released in 1976. Has to be. I'd almost put money on it now. 8-4-76 would be massive.

Re: 8/4/76

Please and thank you on the idea of 8/4/76! Whether it's Dave's 28, I don't know, but it should be released. If it was the 29th, that would entice a lot of subscribers. I'm hoping for 1968-70 for this one. I don't think all of the Houseboat Tapes have been put out, but based on the liner notes to DaP 6, don't know whether there's even enough material for another full show release. I would imagine that consisted of mainly late '69-early '70 material, since it yielded material from 12/11-12, 20, 21/69, and 2/2/70 (DaP 19 doesn't mention being from that batch, but fits the bill otherwise). So far, IMO, DaP 26 has been the peak in this year, and I'd like to see another show like that, fairly unknown, an uncirculated sbd, and a glorious performance. DaP 25 was an underwhelming Pick to me. It has a legendary status, but I thought the fire went out after Jack Straw and only really rekindled with Truckin'. Also, the last Dark Star in the series was DaP 19, so we're due another one. We shall soon find out what it will be, and in the meantime, hopefully everyone in the path of Michael stays safe. It should be here tomorrow, and apparently they're warning of tornadoes as the bigger danger to us. Luckily we escaped Matthew and Florence relatively unscathed, hoping for that trend to continue.

DP 28 guess

I'm going with 7/4/69 at the Electric Theater in Chicago. Only pre-80's July 4th show to my knowledge (which is what I'm guessing the United States of America clue is referring to). A short show, so probably will be combined with another show, perhaps the 7/5/69 show at same venue.

DP 28

Since we’re all speculating on the clues, here’s my (admittedly self serving guess). According to the clues and Wikipedia, all Brent signs point to a pre-1971 show. A lot happened in the United States between ‘65 and ‘70, perhaps more than any 5 year period in modern history, but not one event objectively screams USA more than the next. So, I’m presuming this reference is music related. So here’s my take. jimmy Hendrix played (arguably) the most epic Star Spangled Banner ever at Woodstock. Jimmy passed away on 9/18/70. That same night, the Grateful Dead played a pretty epic show that, at least in my opinion, contains one of the best dancin’ in the streets ever. And with that, I look forward to being pleasantly disappointed because I have no doubt that I’m wrong. But it sure is fun to guess. Look forward to the release, whatever it may be.

DP28

Here's another possibility;Any of the shows from June '76 at the Tower Theatre in Philly it covers BOTH the Bicentennial year & birthplace of the USA in the Bicentennial year. Any show from this 4 show run would make a great release although I tend to lean toward 6/23 the 2nd set is one long JAMfest, 6/23 also features an odd pairing of Crazy Fingers>Comes A Time in the 1st set. I'd like to see any one of these shows get Normanized.

Last and final 28 guess until Friday

10/15/76Shrine Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA Last show of the year and Fall tour. Dave has a knack for releasing those type shows. That Set 2 looks just dreamy! Philly in June '76 works for me too. Totally. Philly ALWAYS seemed to get the best outta Bertha & the Boys!!

USA clue 3

Needless to say, most shows were played in the USA. I used the too generic USA as a clue because using "Mississippi/Ohio/Missouri Rivers" would be too easy. The word "clue" is a clue itself, as the revealing date email itself. It's very good to know geography and to read maps. Can you read the alpha/numeric answer now?

USA clue 4

I just wished I could give a clue on the year or the month or date of the show, but I was not allowed to do so.Again, this installment of the Dave's Picks Series will delight many, and many others will complain that another show close to this date is more worthy of release than this show that was selected.

clue

2/7/69 early and late. https://archive.org/details/gd1969-02-07.137392.sbd.wise.sirmick.sbeok… Set 1 Early show: Dark Star> St. Stephen> The Eleven> Turn On Your Love Light Set 2 Late show: Cryptical Envelopment> Drums> The Other One> Cryptical Envelopment> Death Don't Have No Mercy, Alligator> Drums> Drummers' Chant> Jam> China Cat Jam> Jam> Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)> Feedback> And We Bid You Good Night Other artist(s): The Velvet Underground; The Fugs and its a cassette master.

clue

6/xx/76 Auditorium Theater - Chicago, IL

Is there a Sitting On Top Of

Is there a Sitting On Top Of The World in this show? Or is it 12/12/73? Or is it 10/12/68? Or is it 12/31/69? Boston Tea Party. Email announcement states last Daves of 2018. This is the last show of 1969. Boston Tea Party-USA. Some People might like 12/30/69 better. Pre-Brent era. Slewfoot lyrics about frozen river.

Re: 69, 70, 76?

Hmm, seem to be coalescing around 69, 70, 76. 12/31/69 sounds like good call, wharfrat. Bicentennial 76, rtcampbel, also sounds good, and I love that su76 Chicago run. Though doesn’t seem to jive with the other clues (pre-71). 6/26/76 US Blues encore. Great, great show. 76 is mixed year for heads. I love that mellower, looser sound. Not everyone does. Also, I think 6/29 is better (the wheel from so many roads) and of course many have discussed 8/4.

2/7/69 is only 2 CDs...

so perfect filler would be this 80 minute show from the night before it from St Louis. https://archive.org/details/gd1969-02-06.137394.sbd.wise.sirmick.sbeok… Morning Dew, Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Turn On Your Love Light > Drums > Turn On Your Love Light, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > Feedback > And We Bid You Good Night

Re: Clue 4

Alpha/numeric answer?!

The venue name has both

The venue name has both numbers and letters

What's the point...

Of selling this stuff when you try to buy it the minute it goes on sale and it's SOLD OUT? Make more you idiots or stop the obvious corruption.

Like...

46th Street Rock Palace? Though I thought there were only poorly circulated AUDs. Who knows! (Also, just a few days after the Cap 70 shows.)

"Check me if I'm wrong Sandy"

"Check me if I'm wrong Sandy" but we don't know what exactly was in the returned tapes from a few years back and it's been awhile since anything else has been released from said returns.

2/7/69

I think you are right Kayak Guy. Three Rivers Stadium (Pitt) Pittsburgh was my first guess for city with the rivers clue, but then my mind had my wandering around St. Louis and Southern Illinois. Also, when you click on the art link there is a picture of a skeleton promoting Field and Stream ( headquarters located near Pitt). If so, love the choice. Sam T

Born cross eyed-clues

I thought Bolo was the go to guy for cryptic clues

Born cross eyed-clues

I thought Bolo was the go to guy for cryptic clues

28

That has crossed my mind on several occasions. If so, well done chap.

Re: deadtony

Bolo puzzles take a good bit of time to put together, chairman duties at Federal Reserve sometimes conflict with release schedules.. not that he ever asked for that godforsaken job. Work gets in the way of all that is good.

Summer Fall 1972

I agree that there are many high quality shows in the summer and fall of 1972 that are ripe for release. Here's to hoping for 8/12/1972. Of course 7/18/72 and 9/10/72 would be quite fine selections as well.

2/7/69

Would be a FANTASTIC Pick! Listening to the late show now, and checked out the 2/6 show, too. That would be a dream release with the early, late, and previous show of some super hot, primal Dead.

2/7/69

Would be a FANTASTIC Pick! Listening to the late show now, and checked out the 2/6 show, too. That would be a dream release with the early, late, and previous show of some super hot, primal Dead.

DaP 28

Sorry, just broke out of the Saudi embassy in Istanbul. My Clues: > No Brent > Hi-ho Silver! > USA! USA! > Something about rivers > Alpha-numeric stuff Obvious, I know. Didn't have time for my usual unexcogitable offerings.

DaP 28

11/26/72

12/31/69

Sticking with 12/31/69. The Eleven. Alpha Numeric. But not really. Silver Threads and Golden Needles. Hi Ho Silver. Boston Tea Party. USA. Mystic and Charles Rivers. Something about rivers. No Brent. No Brent.

just because

it will be an 80's show!

Anyways....

...It's the suspense that gets me...

YEP, IT'S GO TIME TODAY....

Wouldn't be surprised if it's not quite as expected...and we get a 1991 show ; ) ...I mean I get it, it will more than likely be 1976, that's the year that is due in Lemues perfect comfort zone of 1970-1978. Don't think it will be a 1960s show, those are be covered in the album reissue 2nd CD deluxe editions....and there just ain't enough of a 1968-69 show to warrant a full dave pick

I'll take anything

So...

after work today I need to drive 80 miles into town to get some shopping done...don't want to go anywhere this weekend with the rain and wind forecasts that we have...anywho, I will be listening to 4-26-72 on my drive in across the peaks (The road tops off at 8,000 ft)...I love that show...when 100 Year Hall came out I thought wowie zowie this is it...then someone on a bt site put the complete show in the correct running order and I thought, No, Wow this is it...needless to say when the Europe '72 box came out I was speechless...so what ever comes our way today I'm good with it cuz they all look pretty on the shelf all in a row...Happy DP Day y'all!!

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