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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Mr. Pete
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    I would guess by the time the box comes out, and deadheads comment on how nice the box looks, that will "seal the deal" for a lot of people.I am not familiar with the NW shows so I am very much looking forward to sitting down, pouring a cold beverage, lighting up one of my dead meerschaum pipes, and enjoying each show. I am sure the quality of the sound will be...excellent! A lot of us forget how bad cassettes were in the day. Not all...but most! Have a great day! Mr. Pete-----------------> aging hippie
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    Total run time for 6/1 @ Camden was 2 hrs, 54 minutes (18 songs including encore) per my Nugs download. For 6/2, it was 1 hr, 46 minutes (10 songs). I don't have the specific Set 1 vs. Set 2 breakdown at the moment. In listening, I felt like the 6/2 first set seemed longer than usual. On a related note, hoping to catch the boys at Blossom tomorrow if time permits!
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    Not sure why you feel entitled to a refund. You don't get a refund if a baseball game gets called early due to rain. You don't get a refund if you buy a ski pass for the season and it does not snow. Our plow guy certainly does not offer a refund if it does not snow. The same thing happened in Canandaigua a few years back. Sucks, but that is how life works.
  • Vguy72
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    ....Dead & Co busted out The Eleven on the eleventh show of the tour. I don't believe in coincidences....Haha. Poop. Congrats Sixtus.
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    Lucky you, daverock and Jim. Have only seen him live once, back in 1979 or 80 (edit: oops, not that anybody cares, but I remember now that it was in 1976. 42 years ago? Ouch) not long after Wired came out, so that and Blow by Blow made up a good portion of the show. How could anyone not like that? Seems he'll be in southern Cal this tour but I'm up north, so will miss him again. In the age of youtube, though, it's easy to see parts of these tours that I cannot attend. He's still among the pinnacle of my rock guitar favorites, with that rare blend of technique, emotion, and inventiveness. I can listen to Garcia endlessly, but when I'm in the right mood, JB has that different sort of mojo that's a cut above. Guys like Clapton, Santana, Robbie Robertson, and name 20 others always had lots of talent, but Beck continued to evolve and innovate, and damn does he ever age? I think his adventurous spirit, constant playing with new and talented sidemen, and restraint on overexposing himself has helped him maintain his longevity and freshness. Just re-read your post daverock, and somehow I missed the Imelda May reference as the warm up act on my first read. Wow, would I have liked to have been at that show! Jim, you'll be lucky if she comes along on his US tour too.
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    Thx Jimbo. And I did some quick math on your numbers below - they are eerily similar in terms of % unique songs played; FW 69 is 35.4839% 'unique songs' vs. PNW 73/74 being 36.5854% unique songs. Moral of the story seems to be that repeats have long been A Thing across runs. I ain't complainin'! Fun w/#'s Sixtus P.S. and it was the China > Rider transition from 5/19/74, while listening on my Walkman strolling to my French class that had me repeatedly rewinding that Feelin Groovy jam which has since had me 1000% hooked on that little snippet whenever and wherever it pops up.
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    Re: Sixtus III, I'm Shocked, Songs..
    First.. congrats and best of luck Sixtus. Seond.. I got a nice chuckle out of thin being "shocked!" Chortled my coffee a bit.. I suspect the frequent visitors of these threads are mostly all-in on this one with some that are interested but passing for various reasons. I think it's worth it for a cleaned up, pristine PNE 73 alone, add in Seattle 74 and the rest is bonus material. I cannot get enough WRS's either, Truckin' had legs back then, China Riders were going through a pivotal evolution, there are some first set novelties like The Race is On, early Peggy-O's and others and you have the makings for a great box set. ..and that's before the extra time and effort mastering, Plangent, etc. As for songs. Just for kicks and giggles I compared to FW 69. I know there is no comparison, FW was an explosive early high water mark. ..but this is how they match up: FW 69 Shows 4 Songs 62 Avg. Songs per Show 15.5 Unique Songs 22 PNW 73/74 Shows 6 Songs 164 Avg. Songs per Show 27.3 Unique Songs 60
  • KeithFan2112
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    On a different note, I decided I wanted to know where it said in my ticket agreement that the BB&T Pavilion can cancel a show at some point through it without offering a refund. They are offering some free streaming stuff, but to be frank, I was treated rather belligerently by the woman I spoke to. She actually interrupted me, and said the words, "you're not getting a refund" after cutting me off several times in an impatient tone. I was very cordial in my questions and demeanor, so, clearly no respect for the customer (not because I wasn't given a refund right), but because I was talked down to and interrupted. This woman, after not knowing the answers, told me to Google it. I guess I can't be too surprised at poor customer service, but I can't remember the last time congeniality was reciprocated by condescension. I asked for her manager and was forwarded to his voice mail, so I left him a message. I don't know about you guys, but this sort of thing sticks in my craw, and frankly the discussion on Hell Freezes Over and increased ticket sales prices is what really got me to thinking I'm not happy with this outcome, and that I was going to call about it. I believe that the cost to either BB&T Pavilion and or Dead and Company to redo the show is going to hurt their pocketbooks a lot less than a great number of fans who attended, once you break it down to percentages and household income, etc. If it says in my ticket or anywhere in my purchase agreement that they have a right to do this, then it is what it is and I'm fine with it. If anyone out there has statistics on the number of minutes played at any Dead & Co shows, I would be grateful for them (like, if you have a show loaded up on your iPod, and the total runtime for both sets and Encore equals x number of minutes, that would be great thanks). The June 1st and 2nd Camden shows especially.
  • Sixtus_
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    Hey Now Just checking in after a bit of a hiatus - life's curveballs, you know? Busy times and not so busy times but busy times will indeed REIGN when Sixtus III arrives this Friday AM so long as all goes as scheduled. Then, crazy train. Good to catch up from the last several days, here. Psyched for this Big Box. Just looking forward to the smooth sound upgrade and some monster shows, just gimme it All. Dead & Co have been a lot of fun lately - that Billy Tell > Eleven rolled me over (sounds like VGuy too). Also coming out of Space into Eyes? My cup O' Tea. Be well people! revel in the summertime - I will certainly try and will do my best to check in and offer some candid updates. That may or may not involve poop. Sixtus
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    It's almost impossible to compare sales performance of any one Grateful Dead box set to another. Some we don't know how many they produced (Winterland 1973 & 1977); some are from extremely famous runs (Cornell, Europe '72); some are relatively expensive; some are relatively inexpensive; and some are available for download, so we can't even measure their sales. In hindsight, it seems clear why Cornell, Europe 72, Fillmore West 1969, and 30 Trips Around the Sun sold out quickly. It is interesting that Winterland June 1977 and Winterland 1973 took about five years to sell out, while the May 1977 box set took less than a year. Judging by eBay prices, the Winterland '77 Box is in much higher demand. This has me thinking they either manufactured an assload of Winterland June 1977 boxes, or the "Limited Edition" marketing scheme is hugely effective. I can't see Pacific Northwest box being on the shelves for more than 6 months after the September 7th release date for the following reasons: * The time of their career it encompasses, '73 / '74 * The 15K Limited Edition production run (a number we know doesn't last too too long) * The fact that it's in the medium to low price range * Its availability for the holiday season * The "word of mouth" advertising this box is sure to get (I believe it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to sound great and contain outstanding performances - we are going to be raving about it after it hits our doorsteps, and if it didn't sell out by then, they will start selling like hotcakes as the holiday season approaches) * The Grateful Dead's back catalogue is arguably in higher demand than ever. Dead & Co's impact, I believe, has contributed greatly to this. Even if one doesn't think there is any relevance there, the fact remains the back catalog is in higher demand than ever based on the increased production numbers of Dave's Picks. So yeah, good times good times. I'm not surprised that this didn't sell out overnight. It's not Europe 72. I think it's most akin to the Dave's Picks yearly subscription sales. We all know the boxes are out there in comparatively high numbers, and we all know the rate at which they're selling. Some of us are taking our time because we have time to take. But the window will shorten once the product hits the street and the holidays are upon us. You can't keep half a dozen brand new releases from one of the Grateful Dead's most cherished eras out of the hands of Deadheads for long. This is not Cornell or Europe 72, but it is also no July 1978 or RFK '89. I think after all is said and done, the Pacific Northwest box may reflect the sales pattern of 30 Trips Around the Sun.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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I finally received the box! It was time. Tomorrow evening, I will listen to the first concert, the one of June 22, 1973. But I just listened to this sequel that I know and that I adore for twenty-five years, Truckin '> jam> NFA> GDTRFB of May 19, 1974 Wow! What a giant sound!
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Last 5 listens: 1. 4/23/77 (great AUD floating around lately but I listened to my SBD) 2. 9/30/80 (Acoustic set only) 3. Dave's Picks 2: 7/31/74 (Truckin through to the end of the show). One of my favorite sequences ever. 4. Dicks Picks 24: 3/23/74 (China>Rider through to the end of the show). Pure heaven. One of the best China>Riders ever and despite the false start, a great PITB>Uncle Johns>Dew>Uncle Johns>PITB combo 5. PNW 5/19/74...the whole damn thing. Wow.
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but I am a middle-aged dude with an expanding waistline. I brought Christmas early to a co-worker. I gave him a "GD cake": a three-inch high stack of extra discs from E72, 1970, 1971, et al, plus my second copy of OFTV and one of 5 copies of Anthem of the Sun. He was pleased. not sure about scratches, fingerprints, mud, or dog feces on the discs, but he got a bunch of good stuff. spread a little sunshine (wink wink, nudge nudge), my fellow Deadheads.
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Went the other night and caught the David Byrne tour. It was very nice all around. If you get a chance it was worth the cost of admission.
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But I would not call Gene Simmons an underrated bass player. The only bassline I remember him playing that wasn't a minimalist "hold down the beat" sort of thing was that deep Squire-like lick between verses on Detroit Rock City. Except Bob Ezrin wrote that. God of Thunder was awesome, but Paul Stanley's. There's some funk to the intro of Torpedo Girl, but Ace places that. Just not seeing Simmons as an underrated bass player. Great hard rock song writer though, for sure. Now if you want to talk about talent, Ace Frehley took about 90% of Simmons' and Stanley's songs and upgraded them 10 - 15 percentage points each. Almost literally every song he got his hands on that wasn't his, he composed solos and fills to bring them over the top. In fact, those solos and leads contributed so greatly to the final product, he should have been awarded songs credits. He wrote the hook and the lead to Calling Dr Love.
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Not sure how close you are to Michael's landfall at Mexico Beach, but hoping you're boarded up and battened down and safe. Be smart. And play Dead! Onward!
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1. Tiny Tim - Live Luna Park 19792. Melvin Jackson - 'Funky Skull' 3. Clifford Jordan - 'In The World' 4. Bob Dylan - 'Tempest' 5. Trey Anastasio - 'One Man's Trash' Now Listening to 'Anthem Of The Sun', hope everyone's day is going as good as possible.
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Discs 2 and 3 are so good. All sort sorts of unique touches. The coda to Wharf Rat with Garcia holding notes....the massive Playin'....a real weird Sugar Magnolia, dominated by a synchopated Keith riff that he almost never lets go of to fall into the more usual flow of the song, at times he 'bullies' Garcia and Lesh into following it....a wonderful and quiet Stella. Wow. I know 6/22 and 5/19 get the most plaudits, but 5/21 is also stellar.
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content pour toi Alain. Hope everyone with damage cd will receive a new copy soon. A little break from the box after 3 listening. A bit of Ben Harper & C Musselwhite,a bit of Derek Trucks and last Ry cooder, and Jerry Douglas... Re listen Volunteers for M Balin.
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KISS: we're only in it for the pn$$ee. oh, and the money, too. never a big KISS fan. just didn't do anything for me. obviously, it did a lot for others. whatever lights your smoke
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i guessed that back in January. we have 5/17, 5/19, and 5/21/74. Cmon Dave gives us another. whatever gets pikt, please don't complain. yeah, right....
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This is exactly how mediocre shows of any group get hot reviews MDJim says: "I wouldn't say they were as good as the last time I saw them.. almost.. but it gets the five star approval rating. The sound in this tiny theatre was excellent and the boys were jamming with spirit." So last time they were 7 stars? It wasn't as good as in the past, but as long as you were there and the band was trying, it's 5 stars? Can people really not get over their own excitement (or ticket price shock) enough to at least even semi-objectively evaluate how the band sounded? If every attempt was worth "five stars", we'd be living in a utopia! Have we no critical thinking skills?
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It was very good.. but the last time was one of the best of perhaps the 500 or so concerts I have seen. Ok.. 4 3/4 star seal of approval. The person I went with said it was one of the best shows she had ever seen. I didn't set down to write a show review, just sharing a little harmless hype. Good grief.
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I think Jim got his point across pretty well, and I was glad to read it. I've never seen the Dan before but I, like probably 95% of the people reading his post, am familiar with the band. I don't think his post is going to lead anyone here to drop bunch of dough on a Dan show and then be disappointed because some guy on the internet (no offense Jim) said he had a good time.
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....my favorite personal critical thought was the last one I had. I've seen Steely Dan twice in the last three years. The first one was 4.20 out of 5.0. The second was 4.40 out of 5.0. Why? Because my wife went with me on the second go around. She gave it 4.52 lilies out of 5.0. 'Cause she loves flowers and because I was with her. Critical enough? Settle back easy.
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I believe the only proper response to idiotic criticism is to just......ignore it. I got turned on to Steely Dan in 1972. Countdown To Ecstasy was always my fave, followed by Pretzel Logic & Can't Buy A Thrill. Only saw them on the first "comeback" tour. Early'90's if I recall correctly. Although this was the only show I ever passed out on the lawn at Merriweather (it was sure nice of my friends to come looking for me when I didn't show up at the car), so I can't be 100% sure about the year. Oh, but it was a great show (I think!!). Last 5: Imagine box discs 2 & 4 Jim Hall & Bill Frisell Hemispheres Roy Buchanon The Prophet Moby Grape 20 Granite Creek Fats Theus Black Out
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Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (played that one back to back)Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality Talking Heads - True Stories Bob Dylan - Triplicate GOGD - 10.10.76 (Happy Anniversary you awesome show you!!)
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I'm biased as the Dan are my third favorite artist behind GD and Dylan. I saw them this summer and felt they were a half notch below the last time i saw them which was two or maybe three yearsa ago. That said, they are fantastic; Donald has assembled a great touring band and i think most music lovers would enjoy their show. Last five: Bob Dylan-Saved GD-6-26-73 Herbie Hancock-Fat Albert Rotunda GD-6-24-73 GD-6-22-73
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Critical thinking may be underutilized these days, however, I don't know that it really applies to casual comments expressing subjective appreciation of an experience. Personally, I would give Jim's post 5 stars just for the Kid Charlemagne reference. I am not sure that the post was Jim's best post, or even the post of his which I enjoyed most, but I think that it is worth 5 stars anyway. Although now I fear my ability to be easily amused and rate things that I like highly, perhaps too high, is just a sign of some intellectual laziness and lack of critical thinking.
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You need have critical thinking skills about real things, enjoying music is a subjective experience. Unless I'm writing a periodical or a paper I'm not expecting critical thinking about a Friday night at the local theatre. On another cheery note, I've also seen people mention problems on here that are not usual posters, who then receive email addresses, contact info., advice or direct contact with MaryE and the get their issues fixed. Thanking people for the help. So if someone needs a hand or an ear when they get busted stuff, help them out. Dont piss in their glass and call it lemonade while demanding they believe how great a juice maker you are. Nobody should care about any of this it's the friggin internet and none of it is a real representation of life or people. Shit the internet is worse than TV ever was as far bolstering up complete batshit BS. Lot of animosity and whiners around here lately. We need a Dave's 28 announcement to break the pissiness.
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You need have critical thinking skills about real things, enjoying music is a subjective experience. Unless I'm writing a periodical or a paper I'm not expecting critical thinking about a Friday night at the local theatre. On another cheery note, I've also seen people mention problems on here that are not usual posters, who then receive email addresses, contact info., advice or direct contact with MaryE and the get their issues fixed. Thanking people for the help. So if someone needs a hand or an ear when they get busted stuff, help them out. Dont piss in their glass and call it lemonade while demanding they believe how great a juice maker you are. Nobody should care about any of this it's the friggin internet and none of it is a real representation of life or people. Shit the internet is worse than TV ever was as far bolstering up complete batshit BS. Lot of animosity and whiners around here lately. We need a Dave's 28 announcement to break the pissiness.
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If this isn't the best WRS ever, I don't know what is. Yeah, DP 1 and DaP 13 are fabulous. But this one...shoooweee. The audio is tremendous on these '74 shows; Bobby's prelude is great;Jerry's slide is great; all vocals are great; the jam sections are great. Everything is mixed appropriately. The dynamic range and separation is perfect. This f***er almost sounds like a multitrack. You can turn it up to 11 with no distortion, unless it's coming from a limitation in your system. Shit, even the China Doll is great, and I usually blow past that one. They had me at the transition.
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As someone who's worked in factory production of printed T-shirts for 30 years, I don't believe there's any way to QC these Box Sets (or DaPs). The numbers involved, which follow and are for the 15,000 Box Sets (not counting Promo Boxes etc.) make it cost prohibitive: 15,000 Booklets 15,000 Vickers Boxes 90,000 Digipaks 285,000 CDs - these are being handled 3(?) times: 1. Imprinting non-playing side 2. Burning the playing side 3. Insertion in Digipaks Any QC team would have to be 'in house' where a problem is LIKELY to occur; QC after the fact is a side-step in a project that has hard-line due dates and always has to move forward or risk missing the final due date of the product (Boxes being delivered to us). A QC team would add expenses to the project as well: 1. Travel 2. Lodging 3. Meals 4. Misc. Expenses These expenses would be passed on to us with increased pricing for the Boxes...say $50-$150 each. If indeed these are made in Mexico, now we're talking further expenses...and ask yourself WHO is the QC Team? You can't use regular staff since they have their daily responsibilities...outsiders would be temporary and don't know your product or even more likely won't give a damn. The solution? Rhino increases their production numbers and replace as needed. They know we're a fairly honest lot even though there's always a lunk-head or two who will try and get something for free; I would think they keep an eye on repeat offenders. I received one of the Boxes we all dread: 4 discs - new/pristine condition 15 discs had the following: scratches/scuffs/nicks/smears - of what I don't know: 2 discs/fingerprints - of whose I don't know: 2 discs/spray residue from an aerosol can or spray bottle: 1 playing side of a disc and 3 non-playing sides, which isn't good for anyone's optical drive. As it stands, I need 3 replacement discs and have contacted Dr. Rhino. Sorry to all for the lengthy opinion/explanation but an old adage applies here and has been amended: "LET THE BUYER BEWARE...THE BUYER IS QUALITY CONTROL".
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I am just getting into the 74 shows myself. I have listened to all these shows before, but there is a noticeable bump in quality from what I previously had. Good to hear the seal of approval.
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Box set debacles have kept me away from the big boxes. Shame, that.The music sounds wonderful, though. Grateful for TPTB bringing this music to our ears refreshed and renewed! A third of the way thru Sober October. I need a drink!
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CJ made excellent records, and he is on so many great records by others. His time with Mingus and Roach was also notable. DO NOT MISS OR HESITATE. Thanks L5 for the reminder.
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It took exactly the length of set 1 of 10/3/76 from 30 trips to drive from The Record Lounge in south Lansing to Founders Brewing in Grand Rapids. I was pulling into my spot right as the drums of Samson and Delilah started up. Up in GR for the Chris Robinson Brotherhood tonight. I hope it gets at least five new Steely Dan stars on the Jim scale. Maybe not old Steely Dan five stars. Those stars are a little bigger than the new Steely Dan stars. Thats why there can still be five w/o Becker. Did somebody say Clifford Jordan? Blowin'in from Chicago is a great set. Five new Steely Dan stars for sure.
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I always look at the box sets to see if they contain complete 'recordings' or complete 'shows'. The description says 'six complete shows', but Vancouver '74 looks like it might be missing the encore. Doesn't bother me in the slightest, just wondering. I've been thinking lately that if I had just the officially released shows, starting with the 'One From The Vault' in 1991, I'd be perfectly happy with those as a collection; I could do without the hundreds of other shows I've picked up over the last 30+ years. All the people involved with the releasing of the vault tapes have done an incredible job from start to finish and get a big 'Thank You' from me.
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it is a "complete recordings" release a very fine release.
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could have been done with the Anthem of the Sun t-shirts they are beautiful but mine is off-center an entire 1 to 2 inches not centered first world problem, for sure but $34 should result in a centered shirt I console myself with the lyrics, "more or less in line"
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craigeyler, In the Vancouver '74 (5/17/74) show, an encore was not played. I have this show on tape and nothing beyond the Sugar Mags ending on my warbly B- cassette tapes. I have not seen any proof elsewhere (deadlists.com, DeadBase, setlists.net etc.) that there was an encore played that night.
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Both out of line. Daniel is fairly new and likely just doesn't know any better. Led, I had no idea that you were a business owner. Oh wait, yeah I did. You post it constantly. And as one, you should understand that the customer comes first. Treat them accordingly. Unlike with your hotdog stand, folks here have no option to go elsewhere to purchase these releases. So when they receive damaged goods and encounter difficulty receiving replacements, they have every right to bitch.
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No Doobie Brothers again?I mean WTF!!! They are much more deserving then most of this years nominees. Rock on
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It's not like the Dead ever really left us. I just plugged in recently arrived Bose Companion 20 system into my PC here in the late-night home office. Highly recommemended. Most bang for the buck... and all that. Good for all of you! God bless you all. Went drinking around Denver tonight with Hollywood friends. I am always pleased as plum when I can show them a good time, a good crowd, and good energy in this little cowtown. I mean, compared to L.A. Nothing like rocking that town but less likely to die here. \m/
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funny, people on this site trying to defend this box. A turd is a turd, put a bow on it, spray perfume on it, wrap it up in a nice package, still a turd. They can't afford to do quality control? that is so ridiculous it's funny. So Bob drives around in his 63 corvette, all the way to the bank, and people defend a crappy product. There is NO EXCUSE for shitty discs, crappy customer service or down right greed. You will be able to pick this one up on ebay for 150.00 soon as people try and unload this slap in the face to the faithful. I would return the entire box to the shipper if they had included return postage, but they don't do that anymore, now I have to pay to return their shitty box. Let the buyer beware indeed. This is the last time for me that I will let these people rip me off. Bye bye, so long, farewell.
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If you want nothing but five star shows, go see live Jazz. Last night went to an Arturo Sandoval show and he laid down a blazing 90 minute set of Afro-Cuban groove. On fire professionally, creatively, technically… had it all, in smiles ear to ear. Only problem, lots of tassel dress shoes that couldn’t even offer up a toe tap. Like being in a wax museum. Luckily I was in the front row so could blindly misbehave and enjoy the music the way I like to. I suppose the back row would have worked just as well. Either way, go see live jazz.
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I totally agree....size of stars matter. Some people must have very little or very few stars for themselves, and so therefore want to complain about the way somebody else uses their stars...so silly! Sorry...couldn’t resist, carry on, happy Friday.... Play Dead Loud Today! KCJ
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Been meaning to say that I find the PNW Box to be a great release. Happy, happy, happy!!!! Was hoping for summer '73, and to get some '74 on top of that was fat city. Yeah there are some vocal anomalies but overall the sound is freaking excellent. I dig a mix from this era where I can hear Bobby's guitar - I find his playing fascinating. Thanks to Alvarhanso for explaining Bobby's use of the Foxx Foot Phaser - thinking OMFG on Bobby's tone during my initial listen of the first show (good Sennheisers help with the nuance.) Artwork is beautiful and happy to have digipaks. I agree with those that the Daves series should start using Plangent - gladly pay to cover the extra production cost. And in the rare instances that I've had quality issues, Dr. R has always taken care of it no hassle. And Vguy, thanks for the jokes: Noah kept the bees in the "Archive" - I like that!!
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Love this box... and have one more show to go. It hits all the sweet spots for me, no issues with the random missing parts. Two discs had minor issues but do play. It's all about the music. Fourth row center last night for Jack and Jorma. Five star all the way, perfect small gorgeous antique venue, minimal PA system. First set had new material and an emotional depth no doubt due to recent passing of Marty. Jack really cut loose on their blues infused second set on that new bass, it sounds fantastic. Good Shepherd was especially outstanding, as was Know You Rider. Pure Bliss. A great small show with a meet and greet afterwards, local brews for sale out front that you could take into the show, what more could one ask.
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this NW box is gold. it is as far away from a "turd" as one can get. if this box _is_ a turd, then I am one happy pig rolling away the poo. ultimate box E72 next best box TTATS then comes NW box in my opinion.
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Don't let the door hit you
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Vancouver might be your kinda town...Oops, no, what I meant to say was: Infinite seating on the internet. Your seat will still be here after you're gone. I imagine you love GOGD music more than you hate the elements of the commercial activities that have been bothering you for a while now. Hope you come back here in the future after some healing. Take care of yourself.
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I like poo too!
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