Grateful Dead

....steelbook edition available at Best Buy.

If you missed it, Ebay has an over abundance of these; copies have been selling for as low as $34, and dealers still have a lot of stock. I doubt 28 will sell out on this site within an hour, and I don't believe production numbers will go up anytime soon either.

PHISH, THURSDAY 08/14/1997DARIEN LAKE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER Darien Center, NY Soundcheck: Buffalo Bill, The Old Home Place, Funky Bitch, Crosseyed and Painless SET 1: Ya Mar, Funky Bitch > Fluffhead, Limb By Limb, Free, Cars Trucks Buses, Tela > Train Song > Billy Breathes, Run Like an Antelope SET 2: Chalk Dust Torture, Love Me, Sparkle > Harry Hood -> Jam > Colonel Forbin's Ascent -> Merry Pranksters Jam[1] -> Camel Walk, Taste ENCORE: Bouncing Around the Room, Rocky Top [1] Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. The second set featured a remarkable jam after Harry Hood ended and before Forbin’s began, as well as an appearance by Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. The Merry Pranksters Jam contained a Somewhere Over the Rainbow tease from Trey, an If I Only Had a Brain tease, a Spam Song quote, and a Frankenstein jam.

Yeah I posted that question a couple weeks ago. I think Dave might be right, but can only know for sure by someone who was there seeing shows in the 80s. This was the question I posted and didn't get any response (safe to assume the answer is no?): Is there anyone who has never seen the Dead in the 80s or 90s who loves this show? I think seeing the 80s lineup makes this tape more accessible. Grateful Dead Europe '72 and One From the Vault is a pristine representation of the band, so I think it's an easier listen than something like Boise. But like one poster said, the people at the show that night had a much different experience. Unfortunately I don't recall who I was referring to in the last sentence, it was something someone posted.

What Dave said.

Reading all the various reviews of DAP 27, and thinking of my own feelings about it, I am beginning to think that enjoyment of it depends to a large extent as to whether you actually saw them at that time. If you did, especially if you followed them round on tour, then this release may be emblematic of that time, and a signifier of the ritual of a Dead gig. In which case, individual performances of individual songs may be less important than if you weren't there at the time If you are listening to the release purely as a recording, without reference to the experience of seeing them at the time, then you are surely coming at it from a different angle, as you are listening to the performances without referencing the event in which they were performed at. This argument could be levelled at any era of their music of course. But it feels less necessary to have seen them, say, between 1967-1974, to enjoy the releases, than it does form 1979 onwards. Just a thought, and of course there are always exceptions!

Coincidentally my Anthem and Daves 27 arrived within a day of one another. Anthem, is, and has always been, transcendental. The 67 live show is, in my humble opinion,a great addition to the canon.Daves? Well 27 has a pretty cover, indeed one of the best of the series. But musically? To me, again, my opinion as a gnarly old timer, who did see both Pig and Keith shows, is that its not the same band not withstanding the continuity of its membership. Spanish jam is counting votes, inferring and extrapolating statistics for the defence, my opinion is that its a shoddy piece of work, musically and soundwise it hardly passes muster. Glad it scratches the itch for those who caught the band in the 80s, but its not for me. Now bring on the Pacific North West!

I don’t know what it is, but I’m really diggin’ on this release. I wasn’t expecting to, but I took a bite and I’m on the hook. It’s uneven at times, sure, but it gets so funky (particularly in the second set) and it rips. I’ve probably listened through the show 4 or 5 times now and I keep enjoying it. I really, really like that GDTRFB and the eyes>jam>drums>space>stones sequence leading into the GDTRFB. The first set isn’t so bad either. This show has got me spinning through several of those September Mountain West shows. That’s some good stuff there; how oblivious I’ve been… I can’t say that this release will go down as an all time favorite for me, but it’s certainly opened some doors. Thanks Dave! It’s weird, but I think DaP 20 (12/9/81) is a better show but I never really got into it, though, I’m enjoying 9/2/83 a whole lot more. Go figure? Thanks to several prior posters for sharing their thoughts and experiences on this show. Would love to hear from others that were there at these and other shows in the tour. Really helps someone like me who was so far removed from the day to get a feel for the scene and experience. A fart in the wind, of course, but something… Dreading, I do enjoy your posts so I don’t want you to think I’m calling you out, but I think you’re reasoning might be flawed the you state, “…too many people already agree this show came up short, so the polls are in and the numbers are significant…” I’m not a statistician by any measure, but to infer that what you have read constitutes a significant sampling of the population is likely an over-statement. I haven’t gone through to tabulate the total number of responses on this thread (nor have I read any other GD threads—barely keep up with this one), but if I’m being generous, there have maybe been 100 profiles that have voiced an un-approving opinion here. For the sake of making the numbers easy, let’s round up to 180. So that would put the total sample size at 1% of the population (based on a population size of 18,000, which is the total number of discus issued, though, the total number of people who have heard this release would likely be greater). What you have likely read on this thread is the vocal majority which is not necessarily the same as a true sampling of the population. To paraphrase VGuy’s point, to infer too much from a vocal majority and not a true sample of the population is to have “hivemind” and deriving one’s own opinion from small segment (albeit a more-or-less informed sampling of the population) can in some ways be misguided. I know you have first-hand knowledge of retail, price points, shelf-life, etc. for these GD releases, and I believe you when you’ve previously stated that 80s sell for less and take longer to sell (this agrees with my anecdotal inference from Ebay as well). So I definitely respect your informed opinion on this and other shows. In my opinion DaP 27 is what it is: sometimes uneven with hot moments. How it reaches and impacts individuals in the population is something that’s less tangible and I haven’t seen anything from this thread that convinces me of what the true population response is like. I tend to think most people are somewhat ho-hum about it and it neither get’s them too excited or too disappointed. I’m glad I had the opportunity to get a copy and will gratefully file it along with many others in the series to listen to when the time is right. One last thought: I missed the original offering on the 30 Trips box, but managed to snag a copy of the factory extras. Should land in a couple days. Thanks to the good folks on the message boards for the heads-up on those—they didn’t last long. This site is full of kind folks and it’s greatly appreciated.

I've come to the conclusion we're all Deadwired different. I like this show, but I understand why the people who don't like it don't like it. I enjoy all the parts that you mentioned Mr Jack Straw, but I don't think it holds a candle to 12/7/71. That show is certainly not at the top of my 1971 list, and I understand why people don't like that show. Side by side though, it's better in my mind on all measurable aspects. I think we're all just Deadwired different.

I dunno, I like this release OK. Early-80s Dead is very hit-or-miss, and this hits more than it misses. It's SQ is acceptable for an official release and it has moments. The GDTRFB is especially fiery and the Slipknot! grooves nicely. I have yet to hear an It's All Over Now, Baby Blue that isn't worth listening to. I probably won't listen to it very much, but it fills in the early/mid 80s hole, so it's nice to have. I know I'll listen to it more than DaP4 (9/24/76), DaP7 (4/24/78), and DaP20 (12/9/81). It's probably on par with DaP22 (12/7/71), and definitely in the lowest quartile of DaPs. I hope Dave closes out the 2018 subscription with a bang. There's nothing wrong with 11/6/77, 12/17/71, and 9/2/83, but I don't feel that it has been up to the standards of previous years. DaP27 is acceptable, but not a top show. Yes, the Half-Step and Truckin' on 11/6/77 are other-worldly, and The Other Ones from '71 are always worth listening, but if you remove those moments, there's not a lot left. It's especially disappointing when 2017 gave us 4/2/73 and 1/22/78, which are all-timers. 8/25/72, which unfortunately is not 8/24/72, is still better than anything we have received from 2018. I think we're going 1969 with DaP28...we're due.