Grateful Dead

Within the next 2 weeks, I will be vining a "bus load" of flac\shn dvds packed to the brim with '67 and '75 stuff. Ltapilot was kind to send me this stuff. There are lots of Blues for Allah studio sessions.

I have virtually all of the '90 and '91 shows Derek lists as recommended by the Compendium. I have a few of the '92 shows... And very little '93 through the end. Derek... Send me a specific request from the 90-91 and I can get them out to you if you wouldn't mind vining them! M GR8FL ! Raymond aymond

...all the years combine... To all my friends at the site who were kind enough to send me music during the holidays to help me get my spirits back up and some music back in my life. It was the best thing that happened to me last year, and I hope karma returns that to you ten fold in this one. Peace, Dan

Its great to see some new blood and the renewed interest in the vineyard. Is anyone planning on attending any of the upcoming Furthur shows in Boston? Let me know. If any of you guys have been hesitating to see this incarnation, I highly recommend going. Believe me, I am a huge post-Jerry skeptic ( my first dead-related show AG was a Phil show in 2008) and a grouch regarding anything post-1980, yet I thoroughly enjoyed the recent shows I caught at Madison Square Garden. "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."

... I didn't want anything to do with the post-Jerry incarnations, but I caught Furthur when they came around last fall and really enjoyed the show. I'd second your recommendation to check 'em out! Joe

I have not been into any post 1995 stuff--not rat dog, further, other one, phil & friends, or even the Dead. I have heard some Dead shows from 2009. I just dunno. I am sure it would be fun to go.

David, give it a try. You have nothing to lose but the price of a ticket! I think if you accept the fact that it is NOT the Grateful Dead without Jerry, but something different, you can enjoy it. It still is the music we all love, and Phil is still utterly amazing. Bobby is Bobby-- just older. "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."

Is Phil in further? or just Bob and Bill. I'll have to go see the tour schedule.

Current Furthur incarnation is Bobby, Phil, Jeff Chimenti (keyboard player from Ratdog), John Kadlecik (lead guitar player, from DSO (see Blair's interview with him on dead.net)), Joe Russo (drummer), Sunshine Becker (vocals, much better than Donna IMHO). "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."

I found 'em on google. Looks the tour skips the carolinas through April. I'll keep an eye on the schedule.

I recentley got a new cell phone and now have full data service cross country, so I have been listening to a lot of Pandora radio and they have been playin a ton of Phil and freinds. I really like it ! Are any of the Phil and freinds vines still alive ? " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "

Don't hesitate, go see em, travel if you have too. After new years I've seen them 11 times and they are the best of the reincarnations (IMO) Jeff C. has been doing this with Bobby for awhile and really, I think he may very well be their best key boardist ever (and this coming from a Brent fan) John K brings a new spark, the magic and new excitement... 'nuff said! (and this from a Warren Haynes fan) Joe Russo can handle GD drumming way more than you would expect especially for being alone, actually some of the songs he steals the lime light .. that is how good he is. Sunshine IS better than Donna, hey sorry but her vocals are beautiful.. (I still love Donna but I had to say it) As for Bob and Phil I just think they are re-energized right now. It's wonderful to see. Can't wait for Broomfield. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Redundant that I am calling it that, considering Vince only played with the Dead in the 90's... RMB has graciously agreed to send me a bunch of the 1990 and 1991 shows that the Compendium recommends. I think he has many if not most of them. I will seed vines from what he sends me. I will probably break them down into 2 or 3 DVD vines. Someone else volunteered to seed the Denver December 1990 run so those won't be included. Thanks Raymond!

I received all of the 1990 shows from RMB today. I will vine them in 2 parts soon. Thanks RMB!!!!

I am a fan of Vince...well sorta. I never cared for Samba. Samba reminded me of a song to shake down and scratch for fleas. Not my favorite. Vince got better as time went on--like '93 to '95. Some of the fall '91 Vince stuff I heard is all over the place.To be honest, I liked Bruce on grand piano the best since Keith.

if anyone here tried to pm the next person in line for a vine, but that person doesn't accept pm'sdo you assume they are no longer acitve (as they got in line 2 months ago) and haven't posted here recently, and move them to the bottom, or do you send it to them and hope it don't die? a little feedback please

skip 'em the only exception would be if they provide their email in the thread, you email them, and they respond "yes, I would like the vine." A person needs to be available to vine.

No response to a PM = skipped. Sending a vine blindly especially to someone who is not here much = lost vine. The person's name could be moved to the bottom of the list so that they are not completely forgotten but yeah please don't send without a response first. There are a handful of folks here where I don't worry about a response but that list has been dwindling lately. If in doubt PM, wait for a response (I usually wait a week or so) if none, skip 'em. Thanks a lot for asking maustin! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

i should clarify, as i tried to pm, it bounced back to say that they do not accept private messages. that is the cause for my concern- thanks guys

I would think the bare minimum requirement to trade vines here is to at the very least have your account configured to accept PM's! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

I understood what you were saying, them not accepting PM's. If you don't accept PM's and you have not provided an alternative way for EVERYONE to get in touch with you, vining is not for you.

but just looking for some positve reinforcement

Sorry for delays. I had a 3 day health delay please forgive. ALL are Labeled in Bags going in Mail box . (actually to the office) in The Morning. A blessing being rural. But when without a car. You wait. My mail postage machine will be refilled also. Thanks Please understand wont happen again. Smiley D Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!

..."cleaned up" our pc. I had alot of wav files that I hadn't put to disc yet. So I have to sign up for all the vines that perished. Again. Just lettin everybody know whats up.

Great question, and back in the day, we in the Vineyard lost many vines by 'blindly' sending along to the next viner (since we had an address), without confirming that they were active. I think that this REQUIREMENT is important to reinforce with every person wanting to participate in vining. If we can't get in touch with the person, that is a bad sign. If someone has computer troubles (such as Hal did recently) or moves or has a health crisis, and lets the Vineyard know, that is helpful and appreciated. We welcome knowing what is happening. And usually someone here is willing to help out as we have seen. Your vigilance is appreciated. I have been involved less lately, working a job and 1/2 (not really enjoying it) but I do check in and will jump in more. When we originally formed the Vineyard, there were some things that we didn't anticipate. But communication is the key, without it the vines wither and dies. All you brothers & sisters here in the Vineyard have worked out many kinks and this is a wonderful way to share the bounty and variety of great music and videos. I can't say thanks enough for each of you and the help you have given me in widening my musical library and joining in expanding my horizons. "We can share the women, we can share the wine..." The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.

Ouch! How many shows did you lose? Let me know if I can help.. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

I will be leaving for GA tues 1/11 and be back sun 1/16. idk if i'll have time to check in much just a friendly heads up

Getting in a practice round at Augusta before the big tournament? Enjoy!

Look at the right hand column on the home page, "listening party," new Road Trips, 4/1/88. I am sure this will please some. For others, another show that already circulates as an A SBD when so many others don't.

I agree with you dstache. They should hire you to pick the shows ;) Hopefully the songs will at least be in order. I never understood the reasoning behind jumbling the set list up?? Especially if they are releasing the entire show anyway (i.e. The Fillmore East 1970 RT). Some of the releases they don't mess with the song order but some they do, I wonder what makes them tinker around sometimes and other times not?? "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Haha, thanks, me too! The order is definitely influenced by the desire to change discs only during a pause in the music (so not btwn China and Rider or Scarlet and Fire). I think that explains the 69 RT. The first disc is from the first night, the Dark Star > Stephen sequence, then the 2d disc starts with the opening tracks of the first night, some standalone tracks, then switches to the second night. Not sure about the 93 RT. All the tracks from 5/26 are in order on discs 1 and 2, except they pulled 3 tracks from set 1 and put them on disc 3. I graded 3/31/88 and 4/1/88 as Good shows. I may be a little off, maybe I wasn't in the mood the day I listened to them, maybe they are a little better than that. Even so, I wonder whether Blair kept a straight face writing the blurb.

Except for some '89 stuff, I typically won't touch the late 80s (87 to 89) with a 10-foot pole. '87 and 88 are probably by least favorite years for a variety of reasons. :-) We all have our likes and dislikes. I prefer '86 over '84 and '85.

Thanks to everyone who offered up their help to retreve my lost files. There are some pretty kind folks who dwell here. It seems she kept all of them on a flash drive. So I'm cool.

she's a keeper after all poncho - hahagood to know it wasn't just wiped away like dust off the coffee table. after being here about a month I want to truly thank everyone for all the time and effort to keep the vines going - awesome! thanks one and all -zep.

Hey now so it looks like dstache and RMB will get us some vines going for 1990 and 1991. Can't wait! I can start a 1992 vine, I have and/or am getting I think all the shows on dstache's list except for some of the March ones. Does anybody happen to have 3/1, 3/2, 3/5, 3/6, 3/12, 3/13 1992 so we can complete the list?? =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Forgot to say that I am also working on 1993. 94 and 95 are going to be a little more difficult.. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Will post a 2 DVD '67 vine soon. I just have to come up with a vine title...hmmm.....

And the vine title for it ;) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

about using the USPS. Instead of sending first class like most of us do, tell them you want to send it "media mail". I just sent two large packages to zep. So large, they wouldn't even take them first class. But sending them media mail, each package only cost me $2.77. So if you want to save yourself some coin, here's one way to start.

All, The best way to save both time and money is to keep the vines in a SHN/FLAC format, preferrably burned to DVD-R's. You can fit up to 10 or more CD-R wav formatted disks on one SHN/FLAC DVD-R. You can also copy a DVD-R containing four (or more) full shows in the same amount of time it takes to copy one CD-R with EAC. It is also much easier and cheaper to mail one or two DVD-R's than a dozen CD-R's Both the SHN and the FLAC conversion tools are free, available to anyone with an internet connection, and very easy to use. If you can burn a CD you can easily use these useful tools. While I was tempted to use USPS media mail service, a friend of mine working for the Post Office DOES NOT recommend using it for anything fragile. He said media mail can get pretty beat-up and is subject to rough handling. Not to mention it can take up to 10 business days to reach a destination. Keeping the vine in the original SHN/FLAC format also helps preserve the source information. Not a bad thing either. Best Wishes and Thanks To Everybody on "The Vine"! Jimmy

Man I have been trying to make that sales pitch here forever!! =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Essentially we are getting this amazing music for the cost of postage plus the cost of blank disks. When you look at it in this light, I think we should send the stuff first class. Of course, if you really can't afford it, then send it any way you can. "The sky was yellow and the sun was blue."

just a heads up - talked to my daughter AND my brother today - everybody is headed up to see me...daughter & g'kids are coming from phoenix early in the week - my brother from LA later in the week, his daughter got to town today! got two computers burning what I can - haha I'll focus on the ones that I need to turn around for sure - but once that bomb from maustin arrives - well... you know I'll do what I can / machines need to cool anyway thanks in advance for your patience. -zep.

Enjoy your family time! Thanks for all the goodies you've been passing north! Joe

Take your time man. There's no huge rush on these. Have a grate time with your family and thanks a lot for the communication. Cheers! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

My name is Ryan,Smiley's nephew. He has been in the hospital for over a week. They said he should be out wed or thursday. He has been freakin out not getting what you call VINES? He wanted me to tell you last week. I forgot was more concerned with him. He said you would know what he means Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!!!!

Awww, don't worry about it, get well! Thanks nephew!

Get yourself better smiley! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

get well smiley. you just never know what people are going through.

Get well soon... Joe