Grateful Dead

...Black Peter is not a social disease...

https://i.redd.it/nje3e6x1bid11.jpgJust the diagnosis I expected.

If you like a good Black Peter... https://archive.org/details/gd77-10-29.sbd.kempa.280.sbeok.shnf/gd77-10… The outro is ripping blues Garcia

Anybody going to MUATM tonight? Still on the fence..I'm only a coupla' miles away from the theatre, but it still is a repeat. Guess there's the unveiling of the new box as an added attraction.

Is there anyone who has never seen the Dead in the 80s or 90s who loves this show? I think seeing the 80s lineup makes this tape more accessible. Grateful Dead Europe '72 and One From the Vault is a pristine representation of the band, so I think it's an easier listen to than something like Boise. But like one poster said, the people at the show that night had a much different experience. Trainwreck, I disagree with your evaluation to some extent, but I enjoyed the humor you injected. I can tell you love the Dead, but at the same time gave an honest write up. It felt more like a real time play by play. Cover up it's coming. I noticed that you compared it two July 7th 1989. You know that show was a multitrack recording right?

Had to break out DP 6 after being blown away by the new Dave's Pick. These shows are pretty different from each other so its kind of hard to compare, but they're both from 1983 so I'll give it a shot. 10/14/83 feels a lot more mellow to me and the beauty really shines in the mellow songs, coincidentally. Althea is a great example of that. Smoothly and slowly chugs along in a magical hypnotic way. Jerry's voice isn't 100% on 9/2 for sure, but I think its better than 10/14 and even works more for him on Black Peter. Compare it to Tennessee Jed from 10/14 where Jerry is really struggling to hit the high notes. 10/14 has the "great" and rare "Keep Your Day Job" ...which might only be interesting because it wasn't played much and was supposedly dropped from the rotation after public demand, but I still enjoy it a little bit. I'd probably enjoy it a little bit more if Jerry could get all the words right. And also, I don't believe there are any stellar recordings of this song? Its interesting to me that the highlights for both shows (IMO) are the set II openers. For Scarlet>Fire, again Jerry's voice is a tad on the rough side but the playing is phenomenal. The mellow intensity is quite different from the "controlled chaos" of the Slipknot from 9/2 but both display some very fine jamming and display the diversity of the greatest band of all time. Both shows have really good Estimated > Eyes but 9/2 has that incredible Bobby/Brent/Rhythm Devils jam out of Eyes that makes the show that much more unique. Both of these shows have great "Space's" 9/2 with the harmonious & melodic interplay and 10/14 with the very green "spinach" jam that goes just exactly perfect into "The Other One." (Side note: Another show with a really good Drums/Space is 3/16/90 -- which also goes "Drums>Space>TOO>Stella Blue>Sugar Magnolia" -- like 10/14/83 ...maybe this was done a lot? I don't know) Overall, I'd have to say I prefer 9/2/83. I would normally go for a show like 10/14/83 because I usually prefer the mellow spaciness of a Dead show but on 9/2 they brought the fire. They also played the slow ones very nicely; Looks Like Rain & Black Peter. All that mixed with the odd intensity of Slipknot and the very different jam out of eyes and the lovely space, makes for a really spectacular and dynamic show. I don't know...maybe I just like it more because I'm not as familiar with it yet, but I can't get enough. Very grateful for these releases. Keep em' coming!

This is just rocket fuel nothing is played slow so it can be played perfect. It's not 72 or 73 so take it for what it is and enjoy the show.

Trainwrecked, that was hilarious. And spot on. I hear both sides of this argument. This show is sub-standard for a Dave's Pick, but I personally have so many shows now that this fills a gap and it hipped me to the Pre-Fall '83 mini tour. I bought a buddy of mine a subscription to Dave's this year. He listened to a lot of Dead back in the day and is getting back into them more and more. I don't know what his reaction to this show will be, but I wont be surprised if he doesn't like it and doesn't want to throw down his $100 next year if he's going to get more of this type of show. If you were introducing someone to the band you would never play them this show. As a fan of all configurations and eras if the band I can personally dig it. But to say though that the playing is really good is baffling to me. Jerry is in really rough shape here. The vocals that aren't missed are not delivered well by Jerry, and most harmony vocals are missed, primarily by Bobby. Phil is here and gone in the mix. The drums are low and muffled and one could be forgiven for thinking the band is backed by a single three armed drummer who's playing from a closet onstage. For whoever said the Black Peter is great, maybe Spacebrother - probably Spacebrother, two better Black Peter's have been released in the last year in this series. Berkeley and Hill Auditorium. Seriously. Its not even close. This one will spin more than the Colorado '80 show, maybe more than a few of the '77 releases, but not in the top 20 Dave's. Thank goodness the West Coast box in on deck.

Guess I need to do some loyalty reassessment myself, because there are easily half-a-dozen versions of "Deal" that outrank this one for me. 11/17/73 immediately springs to mind. Or 12/31/76. Or 4/22/78. Or 6/9/77. Or 7/4/89. Though I first started seeing shows in '83, these pre-coma 80's gigs are a rough ride for my ears when I play them back. The boys just sound like a bad cover band of their own band. I'm not saying there aren't some solid moments in the early/mid-80s. There are. Here and there. Sometimes. We all tend to cut the band some slack because we love them, but I have to agree with Trainwrecked. No way they would have gained any traction outside of San Francisco sounding like this. Glad the show is getting some love though. And nice to see SpaceBro happy. Hope he holds onto that glow for awhile.

Disc two does it for me. I’ve listened about three times through and despite the couple of vocal flubs and missed queues, the fast paced intensity bordering on chaos (that Slipknot!) is both different to my ears as well as inspiring. Not having more than the previously officially released offerings from ‘83, this is a welcome addition. Admittedly the oscillating consternation from some was expected as we all know that ‘eras’ can cause a rukus now and then. Hope All are well and happy. Sixtus