Dave's Picks Volume 27: Boise State University Pavilion, Boise ID 9/02/83

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 21, 2018 - 3:45am

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Gratefulhan

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@Moongahela

Hey Now! Monongahela is a name us Yinzers now all to well, could you be a fellow Yinzer? Hey its cool either way. The Road Trips Penn State/ Cornell release is a good one even though it is not complete shows. You do get both complete 2nd sets and highlights of each first comprise disc 1. I am fond of the Penn State show because I went to school there, although many years after that show in 80 (they did one in 79 too). I had an audience tape of that show and I remember the China>Rider being really powerful. The audience source allows the listener to hear the interplay between the boys and audience really well. However I am all about getting that Road Trips Normanized version. However I wouldn't buy it off of ebay just yet. Real Gone Music has been periodically reissuing the Road Trips in reverse order - last to first. I just picked up the 4-1-88 show. Next up is the Big Rock Pow Wow from 1969. After that is the Penn State / Cornell release. If you wait a bit you will be able to snag it in a few months. That is what I am planning on doing. It will be cheaper. Current eBay prices have it at 60 as the cheapest I see. Real Gone Music also sells on eBay too, and it is cheaper for these new Road Trips reissues. The eBay ID is privateer87 or something close to that. They sell the new Road Trip releases for 40.93 plus free shipping. They cost a little more on the website because they charge for the shipping.
July 21, 2018 - 3:40am

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daverock

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Birth of Rock and Roll- Dark Star-Keithfan

I'm not sure we witnessed the birth of rock and roll-unless you were born in the 1930s! The late 1940s-mid 1950s was when it all kicked off. By the time I came along, in the 1970s, it had been assimilated into the mainstream as "rock" music. I guess everybody, from whatever generation they are from, considers the era in which they were young to be the "golden era". And it was/is. For them/us. On another subject-thanks for that Dark Star map. A great incentive to work through from the single onwards.
July 21, 2018 - 3:30am

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Thin

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Help isn't horrible, but Cousins has a point

This Help is a mess. Rushed, cluttered, heavily mumbled verses, and the transition into Slipknot is a cluster-something-or-other. But the rest of the show sounds pretty well-executed to me, from what I heard on archive today bouncing around a few tracks. I only wish the master of the release wasn't a cassette so it sounded better. Comparing the sound quality of this show to the 70's recordings is laughable. But I'm glad they balance the 70's releases with the occasional 80s show and looking forward to it.
July 21, 2018 - 3:14am

#1544

Gratefulhan

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@KeithFan

Thank you! I just looked at your spread sheet of Dark Stars. That is great. I am seriously going to embark on a Dark Star tour now. I would like to be able to claim I heard them all so that just became my guide to pull it off. It is a little easier to use than the Deadbase. I think I will start in 68 and work my way up to the few in 79. Then of course I will need to tackle the 80s and 90s versions. It will be fun. PS...I know an older copy of Deadbase used to have a timing chart of select Dark Stars. I dont think Deadbase 50 has that. A comprehensive timing chart of every Dark Star would a project that although tedious, would be fun to do, if it hasn't been done already.
July 21, 2018 - 3:12am

#1545

72LiveDead

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Dave's 28

When does Dave's 28 (a birthday show) ship?
July 21, 2018 - 12:48am

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eyes43

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Monongahela 11/28/80

While I’m quite sure the Normanizing done to this show for the 30TATS box, makes it a much better sounding concert than what circulates...I think this souce, the remastered schnid 20049, sounds great (link below)! It absolutely works for me, over paying the $40 you are thinking about spending. Then again, you can always buy it off of ebay, download it, and then relist it. Recouping what you put it into it, should be very easy to do. I find this a great way to at least fill in digitally on a hdd, the holes in my collection. The FW69 boxset is one of my serious wants, but it is not so easy to drop 5-800 bucks on it. But if you do, again, you can download it, and turn around and relist it, to recover what you paid. Then move on to whatever may be next on your list. I find this an excellent way to treat myself to the music in digital form, until the day comes, when I can afford to keep the physical cd form of whatever it is I’m really wanting to add to my collection! Also, if you happen to have an iPhone or IPad, the relisten app is a must. It uses the archive as its platform, but is so much easier to use. They do not have an android version yet, but their website is also very user friendly on a home computer or laptop. Much easier to use than the archive, in my opinion. Ok, the link: https://archive.org/details/gd1980-11-28.sbd.vernon.tobin.fix-20049.900… Peace!
July 20, 2018 - 10:11pm

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Monongahela

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30 Trips 1980 show

Hi folks, looking for a bit of advice: any thoughts on whether I should drop $40-50 and get the 11/28/80 Lakeland, FL show from 30 Trips (which is what it's going for on eBay)? I've been craving some official listening material from 1980, as I really like the '80 shows that I have (DaP 8, Go To Nassau, Dead Set + Reckoning). What about the Penn State/Cornell '80 Road Trips (Vol 3.4)? That goes for somewhat more on the secondary market, and I prefer full show, so I'm inclined to seek out Lakeland, but would appreciate your thoughts. Anyone know why there seems to be a relative dearth of official 1980 releases? Could it be the tape quality issue that Dave discussed in the seaside chat for DaP 27? I had thought that that was more of a concern for mid-80s shows, but maybe it affected 1980 as well.
July 20, 2018 - 8:57pm

#1548

kyleharmon

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successor is not the word i'd use lol
July 20, 2018 - 8:51pm

#1549

icecrmcnkd

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Kyle

I had an Atari 5200 console.It was the successor to the 2600.
July 20, 2018 - 8:44pm

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hbob1995

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AOTS t-shirt

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

DP 28 Guess

My best guess is Las Vegas Ice Palace, March 29th, 1969.......not sure how that fits with the USA clue, but seems to fit OK with the other 2 clues? Santana opened for the GOGD along with a local Vegas band called The Free Circus....Batdorf and Rodney formed in Vegas shortly after thisand would have played this venue many times. Seems they opened for many bands in the 70's but could not find any reference of them opening for the Grateful Dead. We will know soon! KCJ

DP 28 Guess

10/02/76- River Front Coliseum - Cincinnati, OH

Boston '76

Another '76 show from the Boston Music Hall would be nice. I mean, since we're speculating. But I'm open to whatever comes my way.

speculation

"DP 28 Guess10/02/76- River Front Coliseum - Cincinnati, OH" I believe this show was part of the 30 Trips box set. I would not mind getting the night previous, 10/1/1976, Market Square Arena, Indianapolis. It would be two releases in a row centered on Help>Slip>Franklin's, but I don't have a problem with that! If you want a Cincy show, how about 4/8/89? That's a fun one.

speculation

Re: Speculation

Cobo Arena, Detroit, 10/3/76 was included in the 30 Trips box. Though either 10/1 or 10/2 would definitely be a welcome addition (for me at least). That 10/1 Market Square is a sweet ride for sure.

Re: DP28/76

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Re: DP28/76

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Re: DP28/76

sorry about duplicates, not sure what happened

Re: DP28/76

If we're speculating, listing our wish-list, and talking 76 and h/s/f, give us 8/4! Otherwise, I can't imagine another 77 for this year, but that Dekalb 77 call would be amazing. Both are pretty well-circulated boards already, I've got some XLIIs of them somewhere or other, so perhaps unnecessary or not in line with the DP mission...anyway, soon!

USA = Bicentennial year of 1976

First and only Silver LP was released in 1976. Has to be. I'd almost put money on it now. 8-4-76 would be massive.

Re: 8/4/76

Please and thank you on the idea of 8/4/76! Whether it's Dave's 28, I don't know, but it should be released. If it was the 29th, that would entice a lot of subscribers. I'm hoping for 1968-70 for this one. I don't think all of the Houseboat Tapes have been put out, but based on the liner notes to DaP 6, don't know whether there's even enough material for another full show release. I would imagine that consisted of mainly late '69-early '70 material, since it yielded material from 12/11-12, 20, 21/69, and 2/2/70 (DaP 19 doesn't mention being from that batch, but fits the bill otherwise). So far, IMO, DaP 26 has been the peak in this year, and I'd like to see another show like that, fairly unknown, an uncirculated sbd, and a glorious performance. DaP 25 was an underwhelming Pick to me. It has a legendary status, but I thought the fire went out after Jack Straw and only really rekindled with Truckin'. Also, the last Dark Star in the series was DaP 19, so we're due another one. We shall soon find out what it will be, and in the meantime, hopefully everyone in the path of Michael stays safe. It should be here tomorrow, and apparently they're warning of tornadoes as the bigger danger to us. Luckily we escaped Matthew and Florence relatively unscathed, hoping for that trend to continue.

DP 28 guess

I'm going with 7/4/69 at the Electric Theater in Chicago. Only pre-80's July 4th show to my knowledge (which is what I'm guessing the United States of America clue is referring to). A short show, so probably will be combined with another show, perhaps the 7/5/69 show at same venue.

DP 28

Since we’re all speculating on the clues, here’s my (admittedly self serving guess). According to the clues and Wikipedia, all Brent signs point to a pre-1971 show. A lot happened in the United States between ‘65 and ‘70, perhaps more than any 5 year period in modern history, but not one event objectively screams USA more than the next. So, I’m presuming this reference is music related. So here’s my take. jimmy Hendrix played (arguably) the most epic Star Spangled Banner ever at Woodstock. Jimmy passed away on 9/18/70. That same night, the Grateful Dead played a pretty epic show that, at least in my opinion, contains one of the best dancin’ in the streets ever. And with that, I look forward to being pleasantly disappointed because I have no doubt that I’m wrong. But it sure is fun to guess. Look forward to the release, whatever it may be.

DP28

Here's another possibility;Any of the shows from June '76 at the Tower Theatre in Philly it covers BOTH the Bicentennial year & birthplace of the USA in the Bicentennial year. Any show from this 4 show run would make a great release although I tend to lean toward 6/23 the 2nd set is one long JAMfest, 6/23 also features an odd pairing of Crazy Fingers>Comes A Time in the 1st set. I'd like to see any one of these shows get Normanized.

Last and final 28 guess until Friday

10/15/76Shrine Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA Last show of the year and Fall tour. Dave has a knack for releasing those type shows. That Set 2 looks just dreamy! Philly in June '76 works for me too. Totally. Philly ALWAYS seemed to get the best outta Bertha & the Boys!!

USA clue 3

Needless to say, most shows were played in the USA. I used the too generic USA as a clue because using "Mississippi/Ohio/Missouri Rivers" would be too easy. The word "clue" is a clue itself, as the revealing date email itself. It's very good to know geography and to read maps. Can you read the alpha/numeric answer now?

USA clue 4

I just wished I could give a clue on the year or the month or date of the show, but I was not allowed to do so.Again, this installment of the Dave's Picks Series will delight many, and many others will complain that another show close to this date is more worthy of release than this show that was selected.

clue

2/7/69 early and late. https://archive.org/details/gd1969-02-07.137392.sbd.wise.sirmick.sbeok… Set 1 Early show: Dark Star> St. Stephen> The Eleven> Turn On Your Love Light Set 2 Late show: Cryptical Envelopment> Drums> The Other One> Cryptical Envelopment> Death Don't Have No Mercy, Alligator> Drums> Drummers' Chant> Jam> China Cat Jam> Jam> Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)> Feedback> And We Bid You Good Night Other artist(s): The Velvet Underground; The Fugs and its a cassette master.

clue

6/xx/76 Auditorium Theater - Chicago, IL

Is there a Sitting On Top Of

Is there a Sitting On Top Of The World in this show? Or is it 12/12/73? Or is it 10/12/68? Or is it 12/31/69? Boston Tea Party. Email announcement states last Daves of 2018. This is the last show of 1969. Boston Tea Party-USA. Some People might like 12/30/69 better. Pre-Brent era. Slewfoot lyrics about frozen river.

Re: 69, 70, 76?

Hmm, seem to be coalescing around 69, 70, 76. 12/31/69 sounds like good call, wharfrat. Bicentennial 76, rtcampbel, also sounds good, and I love that su76 Chicago run. Though doesn’t seem to jive with the other clues (pre-71). 6/26/76 US Blues encore. Great, great show. 76 is mixed year for heads. I love that mellower, looser sound. Not everyone does. Also, I think 6/29 is better (the wheel from so many roads) and of course many have discussed 8/4.

2/7/69 is only 2 CDs...

so perfect filler would be this 80 minute show from the night before it from St Louis. https://archive.org/details/gd1969-02-06.137394.sbd.wise.sirmick.sbeok… Morning Dew, Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Turn On Your Love Light > Drums > Turn On Your Love Light, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > Feedback > And We Bid You Good Night

Re: Clue 4

Alpha/numeric answer?!

The venue name has both

The venue name has both numbers and letters

What's the point...

Of selling this stuff when you try to buy it the minute it goes on sale and it's SOLD OUT? Make more you idiots or stop the obvious corruption.

Like...

46th Street Rock Palace? Though I thought there were only poorly circulated AUDs. Who knows! (Also, just a few days after the Cap 70 shows.)

"Check me if I'm wrong Sandy"

"Check me if I'm wrong Sandy" but we don't know what exactly was in the returned tapes from a few years back and it's been awhile since anything else has been released from said returns.

2/7/69

I think you are right Kayak Guy. Three Rivers Stadium (Pitt) Pittsburgh was my first guess for city with the rivers clue, but then my mind had my wandering around St. Louis and Southern Illinois. Also, when you click on the art link there is a picture of a skeleton promoting Field and Stream ( headquarters located near Pitt). If so, love the choice. Sam T

Born cross eyed-clues

I thought Bolo was the go to guy for cryptic clues

Born cross eyed-clues

I thought Bolo was the go to guy for cryptic clues

28

That has crossed my mind on several occasions. If so, well done chap.

Re: deadtony

Bolo puzzles take a good bit of time to put together, chairman duties at Federal Reserve sometimes conflict with release schedules.. not that he ever asked for that godforsaken job. Work gets in the way of all that is good.

Summer Fall 1972

I agree that there are many high quality shows in the summer and fall of 1972 that are ripe for release. Here's to hoping for 8/12/1972. Of course 7/18/72 and 9/10/72 would be quite fine selections as well.

2/7/69

Would be a FANTASTIC Pick! Listening to the late show now, and checked out the 2/6 show, too. That would be a dream release with the early, late, and previous show of some super hot, primal Dead.

2/7/69

Would be a FANTASTIC Pick! Listening to the late show now, and checked out the 2/6 show, too. That would be a dream release with the early, late, and previous show of some super hot, primal Dead.

DaP 28

Sorry, just broke out of the Saudi embassy in Istanbul. My Clues: > No Brent > Hi-ho Silver! > USA! USA! > Something about rivers > Alpha-numeric stuff Obvious, I know. Didn't have time for my usual unexcogitable offerings.

DaP 28

11/26/72

12/31/69

Sticking with 12/31/69. The Eleven. Alpha Numeric. But not really. Silver Threads and Golden Needles. Hi Ho Silver. Boston Tea Party. USA. Mystic and Charles Rivers. Something about rivers. No Brent. No Brent.

just because

it will be an 80's show!

Anyways....

...It's the suspense that gets me...

YEP, IT'S GO TIME TODAY....

Wouldn't be surprised if it's not quite as expected...and we get a 1991 show ; ) ...I mean I get it, it will more than likely be 1976, that's the year that is due in Lemues perfect comfort zone of 1970-1978. Don't think it will be a 1960s show, those are be covered in the album reissue 2nd CD deluxe editions....and there just ain't enough of a 1968-69 show to warrant a full dave pick

I'll take anything

So...

after work today I need to drive 80 miles into town to get some shopping done...don't want to go anywhere this weekend with the rain and wind forecasts that we have...anywho, I will be listening to 4-26-72 on my drive in across the peaks (The road tops off at 8,000 ft)...I love that show...when 100 Year Hall came out I thought wowie zowie this is it...then someone on a bt site put the complete show in the correct running order and I thought, No, Wow this is it...needless to say when the Europe '72 box came out I was speechless...so what ever comes our way today I'm good with it cuz they all look pretty on the shelf all in a row...Happy DP Day y'all!!

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