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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    10.1.94's Space into Last Time....
    ....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
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  • LedDed
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    They say...
    ...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
  • MDJim
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    I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
  • Vguy72
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    ....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
  • Vguy72
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    ....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
  • LedDed
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    "Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."
    I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
  • LedDed
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    First world problems... yawn
    This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
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    I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Always been a Tigger fan myself.
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Do I like shit too? I think it's a great box, with great sound for great music. The box came to me just two days ago, and I am far from having listened to everything. If there are any defective discs, I will ask for their replacement. But, what a beautiful box! What a beautiful sound! What a beautiful music!
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"Would you like a shmoke and a pancake?" "No?" "A flapjack and a cigarette?" "No?" "All right -- a cigar and a waffle?" "No?" "Pipe and a crepe?" "No?" "Bong and a blintz?" "No?" "Oh, well -- then there is no pleasing you." Personally, I think this box is pure gold. But, hey -- what do I know?
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Apparently......I know I love it!!! Work day is over....spinning Portland 74 vinyl while I wait for the DP 28 announcement.....what will it be? I am thinking '69..... Edit....1976 it is...10 minutes before 10am Pacific...Got mine,Hurry!
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Excited for this one. Capitol Theater. Woo Hoo
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Before everybody shuffles off to the Daves Picks page, I'd like to endorse FiveBranch's recommendation to go see live jazz. I have always been more of a rock n' roll type of guy, but I can't think of a single jazz concert I have attended and come away from disappointed. The last one I saw was earlier this year-the Sun Ra Arkestra under the direction of Marshall Allen-a fantastic show on so many different levels, from the propulsive rhythms to the soloing to the extraordinary presentation. And all this in a Unitarian Church. I seem to enjoy jazz more live than on record/cd-maybe because there is a sense that you are witnessing music that is, to a large extent, being created there and then, as it is being performed. A bit Dead like, in that respect. I always sense that jazz musicians have a greater musical vocabulary than most rock musicians.
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SK - My wife and I typically watch Big Bang or Young Sheldon at dinner with my daughter and after the dvr of YS was done the channel was playing Goldmember and we watched that scene - how ironic. Looking forward to that DaP28 show - always loved that Boston show from the Road Trip series from that same tour...
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I give this Box6 MDJim Steely Dan Stars And 7, yes count them, 7 grumpy unkle Sam poop stains. Excellent Box! And you didn’t even have to subscribe to get it.
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So I'm listening to the fifth show from Portland, and somewhere during Sugaree -- which I was really getting into, the vocals just sort of fade out. I'm currently into El Paso, and the vocals are still far off somewhere. It's pretty much unlistenable. Does anyone else have this issue with this?? Also, on disk one, Wharf Rat sort of skips and cuts out in the end. If this is widespread I'd say that they never should have released it this way. If it's just mine, how can I get replacements? Signed, Annoyed in Deadland
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Concerning voices that "disappear", this comes from the original recording. It can not be helped.
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Hey thanks for that. I do believe the versions I've heard do not do that, but I'll go back and listen. So before I threw a fit I'd figure I'd poll the community. Such a killer box set though. It's a snapshot and study of a very special era in history and I'm pleased with the perspective it brings. Happy listening and keep on truckin'.Signed, Less annoyed in Deadland
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T’is ironic. They’ve been running both “Goldmember” and “The Spy Who Shagged Me” a lot lately. Fine by me though. I never get tired of the Austin Powers trilogy. They make me laugh every time. Psyched about Dave’s 28 as well. I dig the Dead’s 76 vibe, and the Road Trips Boston release gets a lot of play in these parts.
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I don't know if it's my mind wandering during "the drift" but I swear I hear some of the riffs from FOTM during that awesome jamming during the '73 PNE Playing in the Band. Makes sense to test drive new riffs in their embryonic stages during awesome periods of musical tangents during jams. I love finding these tasty musical nugs from this band!
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Great words to live by. My mother in law sees live jazz 3 nights a week and hits the LA Jazz Convention twice a year (May & Oct). She probably hit more shows a week when my father-in-law was still alive (RIP) and she puts out a weekly email to the Boston Jazz community. Got to see some good music with them (Maynard Ferguson a couple of times including his 75th Bday at Ryles in Cambridge. I'm bummed I don't get to see as much live music as I used to. At least we get these wonderful releases from the Dead...
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Jazz is what finally flipped me full-on into Dead worship. I just had enough of all of it - Beatles, Stones, Van Halen, U2... the verse/chorus/verse/bridge middle-eight fucking whatever, then ride out one more time and kick up the maracas and tambo. Jumpin' Jack Flash, etc. Kind Of Blue was my teenage introduction to jazz music, and it remains the penultimate recording of it's type. Dave Brubeck, Cal Tjader, Jimmy Smith, Paris Combo. I love it all. Stan Getz and Art Pepper... holy fuck. Thelonious Monk. Jazz is fresh and you never know what's coming. The Grateful Dead pulled that off in a pop/rock context. Only because of the live recordings. Owsley turned on the world in more ways than one. What a genius... and the term is way overused. No two takes the same. Thousands and thousands of songs endlessly streaming, the soundtrack to my life. I am so lucky. \m/
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may anybody confirm Vancouver 73 is a betty Board?I found a list of tapes returned to the vault. : https://relix.com/news/detail/the_betty_boards_are_now_in_the_grateful_… If Bear was the king, She was the Princess of shows recording. This list does not include Dave 28 ! Disc 9 Seattle 73 : One of the best of shorter versions oF PITB and incredible up tempo LoveEOther. This music is so Good.
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The sound is terrible on my Disc 1. At first the keyboard is not heard at all. Jerry's voice is faint, at best. The drum/cymabls also don't come in good until later. Does Anyone else have this problem with specificallyy this disc (or others)?
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you guys have no sense of humor, I trash the box badly and you all believed me, except a few of you and of course snafu who is all f***ed up. There are some problems yes, but it is an excellent box that I'm glad to have. Here's another one, I just heard that the earth is flat, we didn't go to the moon and that Jerry is still alive, comments? You guys really need to lighten up. If you all had read any of my posts in the past My coda is, any Dead is good Dead. Maybe the way I worded it thru you all? Here's a clue, you can't believe everything you see and hear can you? now if you excuse me, I must be on my way. James Marshal Hendrix
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It's Marshall, like the amps... he was born Johnny Allen no worries, letters missing.... Coltrane's Mr. PC was written for bassist Paul Chambers, not Mr. Paul Caruso of radio station EXP. We know there really are flying saucers because a rounder one was on DaP 23
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I see, US. :)))
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That Relix list is incomplete.It’s missing 7-1,3,5-78 which are reported to be Bettys on the 78 Box site. “With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings” Unless Dave has released a list of what was obtained, we will just have to wait for release announcements. I’m still onboard with Kayak Guy’s suggestion of Plangentizing all the Bettys.
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LedDed: You described my own experience connecting jazz to the Dead, although I'm guessing I got there a while before you did. Reminds me of a conversation I stumbled into in a beer line at the Dead & Co. show at CitiField this summer with a 20-something guy and his girlfriend. We were talking about the Dead's jazz-like approach to improvisation for a while, with the young woman speaking just a little, when he lets it be known that she is the daughter of a prominent jazz musician and grew up listening to his jazz and Dead records. Note that Dead & Co. have been playing Coltrane and Miles Davis during "Space," occasionally, for a couple of years now. As for live vs. studio jazz recordings, all of my favorite studio recordings were made without any kind of overdubs, so you really get the live experience with a very high level of sound quality. And, yes, there's lots and lots of it out there to be discovered.
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As Alain says below, the faults in the mix lie with the original recording, not the cd. A few shows start off with dodgy mixes, but they come right soon enough. The 1974 mixes sound better to me, on the whole-but-word of warning-the voices all but disappear for a few songs on 5/19/74. The quality of the music still shines through, though.
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It's good to know there are still hidden gems in the vault. I agree for 78...
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Perhaps that relix list pertains only to tapes returned to the vault. It does not necessarily mean that there are not Betty’s already in the vault...
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hi there.that list is mine. i made it in 1999 and was the contents of the KNOWN Betty's that were in circulation at that time. They are only a portion of the returned Reels, as many never made it into circulation by 1999. there are other hand written lists, of the scum bags stash that wanted $1,000,000 for his mud covered reels, they are not included in the version that ended up on that Relix page. its a waste to release any of the returned tapes without Plangent processing, you might as well get the WBOTB versions that were digitized in the 1980's when the tapes hadn't starting to deteriorate like they are now.
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Hi Amy, I had the same Disc 1 issue with Wharf Rat. If you look closely you may see a large crescent scuff mark on the outside of that disc. I contacted Customer Service via email with my order number - in fact forwarded my confirmation email when sending and they sent me a form to fill out. I also contacted: drrhinon@wmgcustomerservice.com Dr Rhino responded as well and says it was being taken care of so now I am waiting. I have to say they seem on the ball with making this right so for now giving credit where credit is due. In regards to the vocals cutting out, I think it helps to put it in perspective of how old these tapes are and actually with all things considered how great everything sounds. Many many bands would not put out these performance because of some of the flubs, tape issues, rawness etc... but they do, and when I listen to it all together it puts the brilliance of these shows into another because of the realness of the performance as a whole. I have been most impressed by the overall quality the dead put into their equipment during this time. I am only on Portland '73, but that Bass sound is so good. Being a bassist myself I can certainly appreciate the tone that I am sure took long hours and expert/costly equipment (sometimes built on demand from Alembic) to achieve. Deep but very bright - that's not even talking about the skill it took to mix live, record, and years later remaster. I actually believe the sound of the bass and other overall sounds declined after this period even with new technology. Certainly it can be debated that the quality of performances never returned to this level after the hiatus. So we get some of the Deads best recordings, performances, with their best equipment with this box. Awesome!
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GFY. Trolling is not only all f$%^*d it's juvenile. How old are you? 12? My answer to you is the same don't let the door hit you.
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We're about to embark on a site update that's been in the works in the background for a while now, and that there will be times in the next few days when you can't log in to your community account. This will soon pass, but we don't want you to be blindsided by it. More details here: http://www.dead.net/forum/transition-new-site-temporary-freeze-communit… Thanks, and back to PNW...
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is anybody out there? Having trouble finding where is what. I know this shit will work out, see you on the other side

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Some things are in slightly different locations. What are you looking for?
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Welcome back! Whether you're new here or a longtime resident of Dead.net, you may want a bit of assistance getting your bearings. In the navigation bar at the top of the page: The Store is the place for official Grateful Dead merchandise. It's the place to order things, and also launching pad for a lot of lively discussion, mostly in the thread for the most recent release. Archive includes photos, artwork, memorabilia, etc. from the Grateful Dead's long history. News is the place for announcements from Dead.net Dead 101 has information about band and family members Community is home to tape trading, tour tales, ticket exchange, numerous discussions and recommendations of everything from bands to books, and more. But wait, where did that feature go? Looking for Chat? Recent Posts? You'll find them in a menu that appears if you hover your cursor over your avatar photo up there in the upper right. If you get confused... Listen to the music play. But if that doesn't help in the moment, send a PM to marye and we'll do our best to assist. Thanks!
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Lets see if pics and videos work...

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..well, it doesn't seem to allow us to embed videos and pictures but apparently we can post links. I am guessing the intent was to make it safer and less prone to the rampant ruskie hackers that used to roam these threads. Progress I guess.

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Clicking on the avatar photo link doesn’t work on a mobile phone. And the drop-down arrow on the photo doesn’t work either. Just want to let you know. Thanks.

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I do not know how to send you a PM on the new site.

With the Safari browser, hovering over the avatar does not bring up any menu.

My avatar has changed since the change of the site, I wonder why.

When I want to restore my avatar with the Firefox browser, at the bottom of my profile editing page the SAVE button does not react.

Excuse my english, I'm french.

Thank you for your help.

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Buenos ding-dong-diddly dias, senor.

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Messaging seems to be a bit impaired at the moment but the fine tech folks are aware of the issue and dealing with it. Meanwhile, thanks to you and the other folks for reporting issues as you find them.
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This place doesn't swank and swing like it used to... Comments and conversations were central to the old dead.net, they are buried under the glitz in the new house. I hope they change that, but I am not holding my breath.

They put a whole lot of work into this and I think they did a great job.. but they buried user comments a bit, they are no longer central which is a shame.

Oh well, no bother.. be good all, play dead.

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Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) just came over the randomizer, 10/20/68 from the Greek (30 Trips box). If you act, as you think...

I think the site looks great, and it won't be long before most of the old guard return.

\m/

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Around 3020.....

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I'll be wearing mine tonight for Bob and Wolf Bros. in Santa Barbara. Mrs. Big and I will be in row G, in case any of you folks want to meet up!

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....im sure it'll take some getting used to, but at first glance, I'm not much of a fan. But the only thing that doesn't change is change.... where's my avatar?🤔. Where's Dave's Picks? 🤔. Why is the background so white? 🤔. We do have emojis tho, so that's cool 👌✌️

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I'm sure it will get better, but you have to open up new windows to get to more than 10 comments, then it's just 10 per page, not helpful when you can't check in every day. Also, the Dave's Picks are the main reason I visit. The box sets are one or two per year, but Dave's is the main conversational hub. Disappointing that that page is non-existent so far, and a release is about to hit, how am I expected to know whether to love it or hate without the discussion that will invite vitriol and passion over 42 year old tapes? But seriously, monotonous and exhausting though those conversations can be, it's also a hive of musical recommendations, reading recommendations, and occasionally awesome stories of Dead shows, and/or synchonicities. Any update on when that gets added?

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I could complain about a few things, but everyone else seems to have covered it. It is definitely way too white. I liked the old Deadnet page with the space and planets to click on, that was a nice one to look at, this one, not so much.
Hopefully, another ten years on this site. I'm not going anywhere except out for a smoke.

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