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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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June 15, 2018 - 9:59am

#3661

RobbZ

Joined:
October 25, 2011

1989 Recommendation

Not sure why, and probably listen to it a bit more than I should, but July 4th, Buffalo has always been a favorite of mine.
June 15, 2018 - 9:48am

#3662

RobbZ

Joined:
October 25, 2011

Sports Fans!

Sports?? I’ll watch/wager on just about any sport. However, I closely follow the NHL and College Football equally (viewing depends on who is playing whom on any given evening). Then the NFL, College Basketball, The NBA, Boxing (was the Mayweather-McGreggor fight boxing?) the CFL, and lastly Baseball. Now don't get me wrong about baseball because it's last on my list...I grew up in Cleveland, minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and watched & cheered many Indian greats such as Ray Fosse, Gaylord Perry, Lenny Barker, Albert Belle, Rick Manning, Mike Hargrove, Super Joe Charboneau, Buddy Bell, and Toby Harrah to name a few. Now a bit later in life, I just prefer a faster game, with an actual clock ending the game. I can't spend 5 or 6 hours watching a baseball game anymore....It's me, not you...LOL @The Outer One…I was actually tuned in last night to the opening of the CFL season, but that lightning delay lasted until I went to sleep. But you can bet I’ll be following the season this year as it progresses…including the Manziel saga in Hamilton. Johnny won me an ass-load of money when he played with A&M…I still talk about that Bama game…LOL @Vguy72…did you not mention the Knights/NHL in your sports post? Blasphemy!! I drove down from Utah three times last season to watch the Knights, would have gone more games but as the season progressed they got better and better and tix were getting expensive. In the mean time I watch the Utah Grizzlies…LOL
June 15, 2018 - 9:45am

#3663

Thats_Otis

Joined:
May 12, 2011

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Here's a little something special from this day in Grateful Dead history - 6/15/85 Greek Theater https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-15.oade-schoeps.sacks.24586.sbeok.f… The AUD sounds really nice too. Perhaps more famous is 6/15/76, which I am enjoying right now, but that 85 Greek show is something special! TONS of energy, and perhaps one of Garcia's finest ballad moments on "She Belongs to Me." His guitar solo is a thing of pure (American)beauty. Hope everyone has a great weekend! PS - Love all the chatter about July 78 Box. Arrowhead is my personal fave - just a compact, tight, smoking show! I also really like St. Paul... aww hell, they're all good! Peace
June 15, 2018 - 9:38am

#3664

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Boblopes

Thanks, another great story!
June 15, 2018 - 9:36am

#3665

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

89 Philly

Right on 80sfan!
June 15, 2018 - 9:35am

#3666

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Baseball, 89, and hangin with Jer

BASEBALL; I would of died for baseball when I was a lad, was a pretty good player too, varsity etc.. But like all sports I sadly watched money ruin the game....I was a huge Cardinals fan (used to listen to them on the mighty KMOX) Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Joe Torrey, yeah baby. Dug the Red Sox too, but such heartache. In Wesren NY most kids at the time were big Mets fans, or worse, ahem... So like most things I had to be different, the outcast, the other one! Probably a part of how I came to be a dead head and identified with all you weirdos; ) 89; personally parts of 89 into summer 90, before Brenski started to unravel, is one of my favorite eras. I know that’s contrary to the popular belief of a small but prevalent group on here, but don’t let that stop anyone from checking it out and coming up with your own conclusions.... Alpine for sure, Hampton, 10-16-89 is imho one of the best releases EVER! Philly was awesome, really wish they would get those out. When they played California Earthquake right after the Earthquake it was as good as any big moment in sports, trully powerful experience, at least live anyway. Not as familiar with the rest, of course the Miami DS etc.... EVIL TWIN; thanks so much for the stories! Please keep them coming. That’s perhaps my favorite part of this site; hearing great stories, especially from those who were there during those earlier glory years. 78 Box; even I dug it and I like that era less than some others, like??? Oh I don’t know like.... 73/74!!! So psyched for this new Box. Mostly enjoyed the “Mickey Godchaux” stuff of recent years, really liked the RFK, but I’m dam near Sh#&&ing myself waiting for this one! I’ve stated before I’m not a “taper” or obsessive collector like some. So that influences my wish list differently. I would like to get all the shows I was at, some other must haves or interesting wierd stuff, and I try to get at least copies of all the “official” stuff. Therefore I am not familiar with these shows and at first glance the set lists are perhaps meh? But thanks to all y’all’s comments about monster jams, and after watching Dave’s chat, well it got through my thick skull that these will be some real beauties eh! I mean Late 73 has always been one of my top, if not the top eras, I just wasn’t familiar with earlier stuff and though I like 4-3-73, it didn’t blow me away like say 10-19-73....(although that HCS and subsequent jam are sweet!) In fact how bout the rest of the late fall tour in a box? So there is always that awkward period like Ralphie in the Christmas story where he gets everything except that —“redriderbbgunwiththecompassinthestockandthisthingythattellstime” —when they release something I wasn’t at, but this time that lasted like 5 minutes. Now hopefully Dave’s 27 will come soon as a diversion, because I don’t know how I’ll survive until September! Yee-gads Thanks to Dave and all the gang who work so hard to bring us spoiled, whiney little be-atches all this amazing glory, especially the full led sonically enhanced stuff. And thanks to all y’all that help enlighten us dilatantes to the finer ports of these shows. Happy Friday All!!
June 15, 2018 - 9:31am

#3667

Slow Dog Noodle

Joined:
June 12, 2007

Cash Grab

Had a salad for lunch yesterday. I didn't get to make it myself, but it was delicious. It was a total cash grab though. They didn't really care whether or not I liked the way the radishes were cut into those little swirly shapes. And the way the cashier pressed those buttons on the register with no elan, I could tell his heart and soul just wasn't in the transaction. I knew by then they were just in it for the money. I shook my head in disgust but proceeded to sit alone and eat the salad - even the radishes, in spite of it all.
June 15, 2018 - 9:06am

#3668

Oroboros

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Cousins- SpaceBro often provides informed recommendations re: 89

But being a Midwesterner, I would point to the Alpine Valley run 7/17-18-19/1989, as an outstanding representation of the boys from that era. And my touring had reduced significantly with the arrival of my three sons, so my knowledge of this era is limited. And Robbz, you asked for another story (sorry cohorts who have heard this one, here it comes again) there is a 'prequel' to that 1978 story. Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open with a force that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, wonder gal 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coaxes this old hall to dance with us. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw 'it'. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle next to the ceramic beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall (over us) to the stage. They put spotlights on him (as the Dead made appropriate musical anticipatory noise) and he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much. He and the bike were far below the lip of the stage, so the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage. Which triggered the explosion of Sugar Magnolia, complete with the dropping balloons. And flanking the Dead a gal and guy dressed in a diaper as the 'New Year' babies. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! Hey if you pull up 'YouTube', type in Dead NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, and right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' a couple of years ago and he clued me into it. And then I showed it to my 3 sons to demonstrate the old man is not full of beans or any other'brown material'. Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to 2-3-78 and another road trip to Madison, Wisconsin. The Dead were on a roll and this was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and Snow to start out and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel that will knock you into orbit. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia immediately said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and quickly retorted "we didn't ask him to come". Garcia looked over to me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then you came up to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes.' She looked perplexed. Then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! And now it is available in all its Plantagenet glory. I will always claim that Omaha show as mine. So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'. Forgive me and give me a day and I will conjour up my account of my first show at the Des Moines fair ground in 1974 (which is more in line with this wonderful Northwest 73 & 74 offering). This era is when I first saw the Grateful Dead and was swept into an extraordinary adventure 'on the bus' and have been 'enjoying the ride'. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
June 15, 2018 - 9:03am

#3669

tncorey

Joined:
November 13, 2016

Oroboros Winterland 77

New story to me...and much appreciated!
June 15, 2018 - 8:43am

#3670

80sfan

Joined:
April 17, 2015

89 recommendation

Fall tour is well documented with the Hampton shows, the Nightfall of Diamonds meadowlands show and the Miami 30 trips release...but the Spectrum run (10/18-10/20) is really excellent. 10/19 is one of my favorite shows of all time. Reach out if you'd like a copy...

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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still at a loss

still poking, but here(?)

When will it stop telling me about cookies, but then asking me tell it the email address everytime,,,, does it really know me?

I'm too am not a robot, yet (with defiant tone)

Gainsville?

Jim in MD

I've always thought there should be one single "conversation" thread versus moving to the comment section of the lastest release. Downside to that is a never ending stream flow of "the conversation". Could get long :-), at least when you break down by product you have a timeline for the conversation and can say that was posted during "X".

This new way does seem to be burying it a bit,, I will continue my search.

If anyone sees when DP subscription is posted and you have my email, hit me,,,, don't want to miss :-(

enjoy

New Site

Yesterday I got tired of picking out buses, crosswalks, street lights, and hills just trying to log on to this site. That's not easy on your phone. Then I get on the site and I am not that happy with the changes. Dave's Picks is gone. All comments are buried under page after page. It seems to me the new site has more of a product selling orientation than a Grateful Dead community hub feeling. Perhaps familiarity with the new site will help over time.

MHAMMOND12/DAVE'S PICKS LOCATION

The current Dave's is at the STORE and under SPECIAL EDITIONS SHOPS. Hope this helps. I think we're all going to be in the dark (no pun intended) for awhile.

Another FYI/Logging Out

Anyone wishing to log out will need to click on the POST A COMMENT bar. After that in the upper right hand corner to the right of the search bar either the shadow figure or the down arrow have a log out 'key'.

Hi all. I don't want to be one…

Hi all. I don't want to be one of those, is there something wrong with my disc guys, but I would like to know if anyone else has had the same experience as I. I can hear Lesh, Weir, and Kreutzmann (especially the bell on the ride symbol)--and even Keith comes thorough loud and clear--but Garcia's guitar is more-or-less MIA. When I can hear him, it sounds like he's in the lobby. At first, I just thought it was the opening show, but then I started sampling around, and the same phenomenon occurred. He comes through a little bit when it just a quartet, but hone the whole band is playing, forgetaboutit. For instance, on GSET from Portland '73, when Keith and Donna come in, Garcia is completely washed out. Is this a problem with the master tapes? I'm playing the discs through a McIntosh MVP991 > McIntosh C220 > McIntosh MC275 > Wharfdale Opus 2-1 speakers, which usually have a pretty good soundstage, where each instrument occupies its own defined spot in the field of play. I read some similar comments earlier onto board when the set first came out, but they didn't specifically address the Garcia guitar issue. Any help or comments would be appreciated. Thanks!

test

still looking for how to get here to read comments without posting a comment

:-)

Logging out

you can also click/hover on your avatar at the upper right to reveal a menu that contains Logout, among other things.

Re: Tommyboy / Dennis

Dennis, if you click on the comments tab and scroll to the bottom of the comments, there is a button that says "View More," click on that and it gives you more or less a way to view comments without posting.

Tommyboy - I believe what you are experiencing is the result of the original mix from the master reels. If you are hearing music at all.. you should be getting the digital sound. I have never heard of a batch of CDs that skew or dropout a part of the sound but play other parts pretty much ok. So long as you are not getting that digital aliens have taken over the world screeches and hiccups.. you are getting what was encoded on the CD.

Check the mix of the best sounding recording from archive.org (usually the Charlie Miller) and compare it to what you are listening to. I bet the dropouts are consistent.

I just finished my first listen to the entire box. There are parts where the mix isn't perfect this is not the case on every show/ every cd. All in all, this sounds good to me and is a nice upgrade from my old copies I pulled down from the archive long ago.

At least that's my take.. I think they got this sounding as good as they could considering the age and mix of the source recordings. I hope that helps.. without listening to your exact copy that's the best feedback I can give.

Dennis

Until we get something prettier, bookmark this: http://www.dead.net/forum/pacific-northwest-73-74-complete-recordings- boxed-set Hey, sometimes the old ways are, if not best, still helpful... Onward! Thanks!

testing, 1,2,3

now where are my sunglasses, this page is so bright, I hafta wear shades

Hovering over Avatar / Background color / Comments sections

Marye~
I don’t know if you saw my post a couple days ago, but you cannot hover on a smart phone (iPhone 8+ / iOS 12). Besides that, clicking on the avatar photo or drop-down arrow is not working on a smart phone, either.

Background color ~
The two things in the comments sections that I thought made it feel personal and intimate (besides everyone’s warm and loving comments 😉) were the background color of the page and the font used for the subject of the comments. I can concede the font, but I think bringing back the familiar color of the background would make this new experience more comfortable. This white makes it feel like it’s just any other site.

Comments sections ~
I agree whole-heartedly with what many are saying about the comments sections on the product pages. I rarely post, probably only a dozen times or less since becoming a member of this site. But these “discussions” are the only reason I regularly come to this site. I know the site was only unavailable for a couple of days or so, but I really missed it. It’s something I like to check in on almost every day. It’s familiar user names like “marye” and many others that let me know I’m in the right place. I’m just not sure about the redecorating yet.

thanks, giu

I've reported this.

marye and jim

I think I found the way here, getting ready for work right now, thanks for the hints.

You have not seen the last of me, this site will not win.

(I don't know how people are inserting emoji's,,, are you just using a cell phone? I'm strictly desktop man)

I only can do :-)

The Wheel Turns

BAM! Website change.

Looks slick, but not very cozy for me.
Probably won't be around as much.
My dead.net friends, you know how to reach me!

Peace.Love.Dead.

Still Getting Used to the Update

Still enjoying the box. So far I've listened to this box from start to finish twice and I feel like I've just scratched the surface. This is definitely one of my favorite boxes.

Re: Charlie3

Just finished my first listen.. digging it as well. I respect the criticism.. but hey, this is my sweet spot and there were many high points for me.

I say this a lot, but this release is worthy.

I also feel like there are quite a few from this era yet unreleased that will surpass this one. It's a period rich in experimentation and improvisation where, with the exception of 1974, very little has been released. On that note, I think much of the 74 material in this box was stronger (at least on the first listen) then some of the 73 material released. Goes to show they are saving some mighty fine stuff for tomorrow's best ever box. Cheers to that.

PMs

Does anyone know how to send or check PM's in the new world order?

Also.. using Windows 10, the hover over the Avatar thing does not open up any menus and the little down arrow to the right is non functional too.. so you folks using phones to access this site are not crazy..

Yes, tone down the white too.

I bet a few of us could put together a ten bullet point list of items that would greatly improve things without being a bunch of whining freaks.. change that.. without being a bunch of whiners.

Shiny and New

Well, this is going to take some getting used to...

Messages

Hey MDJim, or should I say MDJIM, when using my laptop, if I place the cursor over the upper right hand link where the avatar picture is a list of links comes up, including a link to messages. This messages link takes me to previous PMs. I haven't sent any yet, so I can't answer that part of the question.

It's odd seeing everyones user name in all caps.

Re: Avatar Links

That seems to be working for me now too.. but it wasn't over the weekend. Progress.. Thanks Charlie.

Avatar photo link - update

I just want to let TPTB know that the avatar photo link is now working on the iPhone 8+. Thanks for the effort!

Thanks G1U

I'll let the tech folks know.

The Avatar Thingee

in the upper right hand corner is working now. Onward and upward, I always say!

Just recieved my box...

I know it's been put up here numerous times,but I need Dr. Rhino's number or e-mail please.
All four discs from 6-22 will not even play. Not one f'n note. Started in on disc one from 6-26 and it wll not play either.
Before I waste more of my time on what is obviously a VERY FLAWED & EXPENSIVE product I would just like to cut to the chase and see if I can get a full replacement.

Any help would be appreciated.
This is the last time I will be buying anything from these guys again,but I need this fixed.

PW Reset

Testing new site profile....

JR

I've passed this to the Doc. So sorry for the trouble.

Seattle 73

Just want to post a little love for the first Seattle show on the box (6/26/73). Portland 74 is, well Portland 74; other shows have their bits (Seattle 74's 46-minute PITB; the PITB with proto-FOTM snippet at Vancouver 73). But I'm inclined to vote for the He's Gone > Truckin' > TOO > Bobby McGee > TOO > Sugar Mag from Sea 73 as my favorite stretch of the whole set. What a bonanza.

Marye

Thank You
:o)

Change

Where I worked for 36 years was a large 100+ acre multi department facility with 100s of employees. For years the employee cafeteria was a meeting place where people from different departments would gather and bond over a hot meal served by a smiling fellow employee. Some years ago management "modernized" the employee cafeteria by getting rid of the cooks and servers with brand new food vending machines, a fresh coat of paint, tv screens, WiFi, and charging stations. No one eats there anymore. They just walk through, buy what they want, and return to their work station. The social element that had made going to "The Pit" such a pleasure had been removed. Hoping this isn't the same thing happening here.

Admiration

One has to admire someone who can stick with a job for 36 years. I have never managed more than 12 years. 🤤

Tommyboy ie Garcia MIA

Yes, when I first heard this box I said the same thing, Where's Jerry? All three of the 73 shows he is missing or just barely there. It does get better for the 74 shows but still , not great. I can relate to your stereo system, I bet that baby kicks some serious butt. Mac is the way to listen to the Dead. When I was in the service, we had money to burn so we all bought killer stereos (early 70's) and out of all of them I heard, the Mac was the cleanest most defined sound. Beats them all, so it's not your stereo or your ears, it is the recording and it's limitations. Someone said that maybe they turned everyone else up so they could hear themselves, trying something new, whatever the reason, but Bobby, Phil and Billy are very present and sometimes Keith, but Jerry is way, way down in this mix, at least for the 73 shows. Sounds that way on my Nak TA-4A thru Altec Bolero speakers, Nak CD player too.

Campaigns and Unkle

Campaigns, thanks for the comment on the '73 Truckin' medley. If that's someone's favorite stretch, I have to give it another listen. I was so blown away by the 26 minute Truckin' => Jam from the other '73 show, and so bummed about Jerry's lack of presence on a lot of the '73 stuff, that I've been passing this one by. Will have to revisit tinight.

Great segue into my comment to Unkle Sam - the lacka Jerry in the 1973 shows seems to come and go, so there are some tunes that I find are not terrible, but some truly hurt when he's not audible. I feel your pain man. I'd be a real curmudgeon about it all if '74 was like that too, but those 3 shows are among the best sounding of the whole year to my ears. So you know what I do - on my drive to work I turn the balance toward the left channel so I can hear him better. Helps a little. Until you then can't hear Keith.

Oh you have to be kidding me - this robot question keeps popping up while I'm typing, so I end up hitting a link to something else (cell phone). F'ing brilliant.

Marye - I've tried…

Marye - I've tried contacting you via PM which didn't work. Can I ask for your assistance for getting replacement discs for the PNW Box Set. I emailed Doc Rhino 4 weeks ago and was sent a reply on 9/23 saying the replacements would be coming. I've received nothing as of today 10/23. Can you help? I need replacement discs for the following:

1. 6/22/73 - Disc 3

2. 5/19/74 - Disc 1

3. 5/21/74 - Disc 2

Thanks for your help,
Dave Strang

Replacement Discs

I'm in the same boat as Dave Strang, emailed Dr. Rhino about a month ago or more, received an email saying a replacement disc will be sent out, then nothing since then. I am guessing that they had a large number of discs to replace and are just behind schedule, but it is getting to be kind of a lengthy delay in making things right. Fortunately I am just waiting for disc #5 and I am still hoping they make it right, even if it has not happened yet.

yes, folks

I'm having issues with PMs, so just do this for the moment and I will pass this to the Doc. Thanks!

Not sure I can get used to this

Finding threads are very difficult. And once you find them it does not look good especially on my phone. May only have to use this site on a desktop going forward.

Also just noticed I have been assigned an avatar. Would love to have my original one that I uploaded. Oh well

Missing Inbox messages

Anyone else missing their Inbox messages?

Replacement Discs

Howdy, folks! I've had perfect success sending Marye a PM with my order number and the specific disc numbers that I needed replaced from the PNW set. Response was quick and I received my replacements in just a few days. Once the sites issues are resolved with PM's, I suggest that route for those having trouble reaching Dr. Rhino. Good luck!

Yeah

I could have sworn there was a comment page on Dave's Picks 28 but I don't see it now.

Dave's 28 Comments

Try https://www.dead.net/forum/daves-picks-volume-28-capitol-theatre-passai… – takes you straight to 'Comments' without unnecessary clicks.

NW Box Set - Sub Par Sound Quality

Nice packaging and all...but the sound quality is very very sub-par. Jerry's vocals are virtually non-existent in many cases. Can't hear the guitar. I see now many others have similar complaints. Is Rhino actually replacing discs? This is the last box set I'll buy if this is a sign of things to come. I've purchased others and they've all been great. What the heck happened with this set? Very discouraging.

Replacement Discs / DaP 28 Comments

Parabolaus - I'm sure the problem with PMs will be resolved but I wanted to let Marye know about the discs as well as the problem with the PMs. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

hey folks

my PMs are working now! Long version is that the Doc is busily sending out replacement discs, so if you need some, send me a PM and we'll get on it. Thanks!

also, WRT the Jerry-low-in-the-mix issue

The Doc is investigating, please keep the reports coming.

wtfpeople

i have listened to 90% of this release, and have no issue at all with the volume/mix, no scratches, no skips, etc.

just awesome, awesome music.

great box set.

I will now do the Church Lady superior dance.

I am not a robot, but I am an uppity phq.

i am really getting sick of the captcha thing.

"click all zits until there are none left."

three minutes later, "I guess you are not a robot."

Greetings from Korea...

I agree, the mix is spotty in places. But, that is how it very likely is on the master tapes. It shouldn't be from a cd/digital defect.

On a slightly related note, headphones vs. sound systems provide vastly different listening experiences. A lot of times with headphones you hear nuances that aren't apparent on a sound system. Of course, you cannot rattle the walls though with phones and that is part of the fun.

P.S. I haven't yet checked if my discs are scratched up. I just ripped, tagged and have listened to random portions of shows. Perhaps, I should get on that...

Yes

I absolutely love this release. Outstanding

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