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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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    Day 8 of "life after the E72 box". Some thoughts. (1) Sound quality. Sounds super to me. But, I'm no audiophile. I have pretty low end equipment and get my best sound from my Iphone, so maybe my opinion can be easily dismissed. I can hear the difference between Steppin Out and the 4/7 and 4/8 shows and can understand why some prefer Steppin Out. But I also like the sound of the new E72 versions, and I think a case could be made that the Steppin out versions sound a bit more manipulated and the new versions have a more natural sound. I love both mixes and think its a good thing to hear different mixes. The music is so blindingly great its hard for me to pay too much attention to the mix, frankly. Makes me glad I 'm not an audiophile. Grade A (2) The Box. I admit when I first saw the box sketch months ago, I hoped it would be like one of the Columbia Miles Davis or Coltrane metal boxes- those are fantastic boxes, if you havent seen them. Rugged metal construction and excellent CD holders, also compact size and convenient booklet format. But that would have made the set preposterously heavy and probably sent the price over $1000 or more. Its a well made, economical box. I love the way it looks more and more each day. Grade A. (3) CD sleeves. They are low quality, no doubt about it. Not such a big deal though. Grade C-. (4) Accoutrements. Excellent hardcover book. Excellent essays in book and on sleeves. Great artwork, better than any previous boxset, except the classic Fillmore box art. Does any one really care about extra ephemera? When was the last time you "enjoyed" that little cardboard hat and guitar from the JGB set? Grade A-. All in all Grade A. Thanks to everyone who made it possible.
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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"If you are the maintainer of this site, please check your database settings in the settings.php file and ensure that your hosting provider's database server is running. For more help, see the handbook, or contact your hosting provider." Sadly (or not) I am not the maintainer of this site. Neither do I have access to the handbook. "Websites for dummies"?
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Yea, I had to create a new account too. I'm not sure they're forgetting us international customers; it seems that no one can order at all. But it is frustrating.
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Wow, what a release! And quite a jump in size from the last box. What was the biggest box ever (before this, I mean)? I think 10 discs was their biggest release so far. I'd love to get this...but...I guess...what do I do, flip a coin??!! Uggh! I just can't decide! It's torture.
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As we can't order at the moment, could someone from the organisation at least come on here and let us know how much International Shipping is going to be - please!
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of dead.net. great release. once this gets sorted out there'll be nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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This is a great release.....I wish the powers that be would let the community get involved and vote for a similar follow up box..Such as Fall 1973 or the 1990 tour...Thank You
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A poll for future releases would be nice, but a lot depends on what's available in the vault in good enough quality. Fortunately, the Europe 72 tour was well recorded, but a lot of other "tours" or runs will have gaps.
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"I got four... almost five...!"
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Hat's off to the powers that be for digging deep and bringing something extraordinary to market, hopefully.
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Thank you Rhino, Blair, everyone else responsible for making this happen. Given the fact that the site is down, I believe the response is positive. Or maybe someone forgot to feed the squirrel at dead.net. Looking forward to this one
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I wish they'd back off calling it a limited edition and just go with a first production run...then they could do another production run in similar fashion if they were able to get another 3,000 pre-orders. They could even "cheapen" the packaging by switching from the Fillmore West style digipacks to the Winterland style foldable sleeves. Per disc, this new box is the best value of the big boxes. Here's what I paid, including bonus discs and shipping/handling in the US: Fillmore West 1969 - 11 discs/4 shows - $86 ($7.81/disc, $21.50/show) Winterland 1973 - 10 discs/3 shows - $107 ($10.70/disc, $35.67/show) Winterland June 1977 - 10 discs/3 shows - $106 ($10.60/disc, $35.33/show) Europe '72 - 60 discs/22 shows - $450 ($7.50/disc, $20.45/show) $450 is a lot to come up with for some people, but for those with the means it's a good deal. It would be nice if they did limited runs of each show and offered them monthly for those who wanted to cherry pick.
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It says above that if they don't get at least 3,000 orders, the box won't happen. So everyone should make sure to lobby their Deadhead friends so as many order as possible. Because at this price, it's entirely possible that there aren't enough people to got to 3,000. Cause it'd be a huge bummer to find out that this isn't going to happen....
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I want to order from Canada - I know you ship out of Ontario so a Canadian solution would be TERRIFIC !!
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Why limit the production to 7500 copies? I'm sure it will sell out as quickly as the Fillmore '69 box, and a lot of prospective customers will be unhappy and/or mad as hell.I say let the offer remain open for however long it takes for the market to be saturated, and let the investors and ebay sellers take their 'business' elsewhere.
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This is yet another example of "If you ask Dr. Rhino, he will deliver". Lots have asked for this (I was one) and now Rhino have come up with the goods. Credit where it is due - they really do listen to us. In fact they seem to be listening a lot lately. Just be careful what you ask for. Once, in a moment of flippancy I suggested that the entire vault be released as a 5000 CD box set. If they do bring that out, I just hope they don't remind me of that fact and demand that I purchase one.
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No, please, no... A few hundred is fine, but that'd just cost too much. To be honest, I'd rather there be a careful selection. There's plenty of SBDs you can download, and that many would never get many listens. No, I'd like to see some more runs/tours/seasons like this in the future. 60 CD sets are fine. Remember, it takes a lot of time for the remastering, so I doubt we'll be seeing a lot of big boxes like this.
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I have hoped that this tour would be remastered and released for a long time. But a limited edition run? Bad idea. I can hear the scalpers lining up. I thought about buying an extra one and trying my hand at one of those auction sites, but I could not deprive a fellow traveller of the set. Of course, it would be nice if I could actually order the thing. I have never had such a hard time giving my money away as I do on this site. It's always something. By the time they get it up and running, I could be offline and miss out. I missed the Fillmore set :( I hope they get this fixed soon.........
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The mixing from 16-track tapes is the really time-consuming part, the mastering less so (though also very important, of course)...
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Yes, I assume that the actual mastering part is less time-consuming, but my comment was that of someone who doesn't know much about the technical terms. For me, it just meant that the whole job takes a lot of time.
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As I understand it, some tunes on the original 3 LP set were later overdubbed (particularly vocals). Why was that and if it was really necessary how can this version largely avoid this, bearing in mind the source tapes are the same?
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Just wondering if anyone at all has had any success in actually placing an order yet?
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Regarding the Bickershaw Festival, England 7 May '72 - "Deal" appears in all the setlists I have seen for this performance but everybody who taped it swears that it was not played. I don't have a clue myself - I was there, but I was wasted, like almost everybody, and it was a long time ago. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!
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They decide on Apr. 1 go/nogo. Hmmmmmm.
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Are all the shows in this box set going to be in correct order as played, rather than shuffled around to fit the CDs, as was done with Rockin' the Rhein?
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Did you have any luck getting as far as seeing if International shipping is now available - or further? I still cannot login due to the system not recognizing my password.
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Oh God, I didn't even think of that. PLEASE be in correct order, use a few more discs. The 69 RT is a little annoying in that we have 1/2 of 1 show, then 1/2 of another, then back to the first, then finish the second. I saw this posted around 2:45 EST, couldn't get far, then a little while later was able to get all the way to the place your order stage (stage 4). We'll get there sometime.
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even by-passing the login and checking out as guest option did not work for me lucky to get pass 'personalize' page actually
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I would strongly suggest taking the proverbial giant step back and letting the tech guys (who are acutely aware of the problems at this point) work on the various issues for a bit. I DO understand the anxiety levels and I'm sorry for the hassles.
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I doubt the shows would be split. Most would easily fit on three discs; there may be one or two that are longer, but I don't think it's that many. What is the "69 RT" cited above? I don't know of any recent releases that are split like that.
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The 1969 Road Trips from the Big Pow Wow, I think it is 5/25 and 5/26.
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Guys, you can give the site your email and they will notify you when the release is available. Go back to the first page of the release and you will see it.
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Wouldn't you think you would have the IT down BEFORE announcing this?!? I am ready to pay for it right now, without blinking at the price. What's the issue? Any word on how long? They have changed when you try to "thank you for your interest in the pre-order." C'mon guys. "Hey you, your lense cap is on..." :-)
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Have you thought about getting M.E. <3's J.G as you personal inscription?
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Man, I just this minute got off the phone from my bank who have just cancelled my Visa card because of some fraudulent transaction activity ocurring this morning. I got the call within 10 minutes of the transactions being posted so I am amazingly impressed and grateful at it being picked up so quick. But now I've got a 10 day wait for a new card to be issued.... 10 days before I can place my pre-order. Fingers crossed that these don't sell out before then.
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I heard a rumor that the 89 fall tour was getting the box-set treatment. Given that several full shows from that tour have already been released, that seems unlikely to me. OTOH, that was my favorite tour in terms of what I actually attended, so I'd be happy to see it happen. Any thoughts? As for the cost of this E72 Box, the upfront 1.3 million does seem a bit high. Even considering salaries for Norman and the rest, plus physical production costs, I can't see how that could be more than a few hundred k. In terms of bang for the buck, though, it's hard to argue that the price is somehow "unfair;" it seems pretty reasonable. I was interested to read the comments about the classical music discs at a buck a piece. I know nothing about that market, so I don't know how well the two markets can be compared.
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Dear AAAAAAARRRGH: go to Walmart and buy a prepaid Visa card. You can use it immediately.
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... It's not going to sell-out in ten days. Sorry about your experience, ironman, but I think you'll be OK.... Honest... Now, everyone take a deep breath..... innnnnnnnnn..... ouuuuuuuuut! Good. All will be resolved in due time.
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Can I have mine without another ponderous, self-congratulatory essay from Blair please. I'll pay extra
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OK I'm prepared to wait until the problems are resolved. But I don't know why we can't be told what the International Postage (UK particularly) will be. Surely this is known already and is not dependant upon the system being fixed.
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But Blair, this is IT, you know? IT! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! I hope it's fixed soon. It seems too good to be true this is finally happening. This is IT, baby!
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The whole Europe 72 Tour, in one box? My favorite, WOW! I am ecstatic to see that Jeffery Norman has done the audio mixing on these shows. When I tried to order these, I could not, will try again, 'cause the server is down - the store crashed, or at least the part that is taking orders for this release. I wonder if any orders were successfully placed today, 19 January 2011? A BIG Thank You to the powers that be!
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Thanks for the reassurances and updates, Blair and Mary. :) I missed out on the Fillmore box set a few years back, so I learned my lesson about ordering early! Just hope the servers can handle it when the emails go out....;) Also just wanted to comment to those quibbling with the price that the coffee-table book also included would probably retail for at least $50. And don't forget the postage, the cost of which is continually rising. This set looks like it's worth the price.
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Damn I want it! I would love to see all the song lists though. That's my only wish. Heck why only 7200? Do they want this thing to really become a collectors item? Please let us know when we can place an order, ya heads!
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I notice a sketch of the packaging has been added. While that looks cool, I hate to think how much it weighs, and how much international shipping is going to cost...