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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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September 8, 2018 - 9:09pm

#1321

Vguy72

Joined:
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10.1.94's Space into Last Time....

....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
September 8, 2018 - 9:04pm

#1322

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Box

Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
September 8, 2018 - 9:03pm

#1323

MDJim

Joined:
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Double Post

Squirrel
September 8, 2018 - 8:43pm

#1324

LedDed

Joined:
February 16, 2017

They say...

...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
September 8, 2018 - 8:37pm

#1325

MDJim

Joined:
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GD and OCD

I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
September 8, 2018 - 8:06pm

#1326

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

10.1.94's intro into Fire On The Mountain....

....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
September 8, 2018 - 7:49pm

#1327

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

OCD....

....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
September 8, 2018 - 7:36pm

#1328

LedDed

Joined:
February 16, 2017

"Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."

I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
September 8, 2018 - 7:09pm

#1329

LedDed

Joined:
February 16, 2017

First world problems... yawn

This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
September 8, 2018 - 7:09pm

#1330

cheyler196

Joined:
June 20, 2007

First songs from set

I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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still at a loss

still poking, but here(?)

When will it stop telling me about cookies, but then asking me tell it the email address everytime,,,, does it really know me?

I'm too am not a robot, yet (with defiant tone)

Gainsville?

Jim in MD

I've always thought there should be one single "conversation" thread versus moving to the comment section of the lastest release. Downside to that is a never ending stream flow of "the conversation". Could get long :-), at least when you break down by product you have a timeline for the conversation and can say that was posted during "X".

This new way does seem to be burying it a bit,, I will continue my search.

If anyone sees when DP subscription is posted and you have my email, hit me,,,, don't want to miss :-(

enjoy

New Site

Yesterday I got tired of picking out buses, crosswalks, street lights, and hills just trying to log on to this site. That's not easy on your phone. Then I get on the site and I am not that happy with the changes. Dave's Picks is gone. All comments are buried under page after page. It seems to me the new site has more of a product selling orientation than a Grateful Dead community hub feeling. Perhaps familiarity with the new site will help over time.

MHAMMOND12/DAVE'S PICKS LOCATION

The current Dave's is at the STORE and under SPECIAL EDITIONS SHOPS. Hope this helps. I think we're all going to be in the dark (no pun intended) for awhile.

Another FYI/Logging Out

Anyone wishing to log out will need to click on the POST A COMMENT bar. After that in the upper right hand corner to the right of the search bar either the shadow figure or the down arrow have a log out 'key'.

Hi all. I don't want to be one…

Hi all. I don't want to be one of those, is there something wrong with my disc guys, but I would like to know if anyone else has had the same experience as I. I can hear Lesh, Weir, and Kreutzmann (especially the bell on the ride symbol)--and even Keith comes thorough loud and clear--but Garcia's guitar is more-or-less MIA. When I can hear him, it sounds like he's in the lobby. At first, I just thought it was the opening show, but then I started sampling around, and the same phenomenon occurred. He comes through a little bit when it just a quartet, but hone the whole band is playing, forgetaboutit. For instance, on GSET from Portland '73, when Keith and Donna come in, Garcia is completely washed out. Is this a problem with the master tapes? I'm playing the discs through a McIntosh MVP991 > McIntosh C220 > McIntosh MC275 > Wharfdale Opus 2-1 speakers, which usually have a pretty good soundstage, where each instrument occupies its own defined spot in the field of play. I read some similar comments earlier onto board when the set first came out, but they didn't specifically address the Garcia guitar issue. Any help or comments would be appreciated. Thanks!

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still looking for how to get here to read comments without posting a comment

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Logging out

you can also click/hover on your avatar at the upper right to reveal a menu that contains Logout, among other things.

Re: Tommyboy / Dennis

Dennis, if you click on the comments tab and scroll to the bottom of the comments, there is a button that says "View More," click on that and it gives you more or less a way to view comments without posting.

Tommyboy - I believe what you are experiencing is the result of the original mix from the master reels. If you are hearing music at all.. you should be getting the digital sound. I have never heard of a batch of CDs that skew or dropout a part of the sound but play other parts pretty much ok. So long as you are not getting that digital aliens have taken over the world screeches and hiccups.. you are getting what was encoded on the CD.

Check the mix of the best sounding recording from archive.org (usually the Charlie Miller) and compare it to what you are listening to. I bet the dropouts are consistent.

I just finished my first listen to the entire box. There are parts where the mix isn't perfect this is not the case on every show/ every cd. All in all, this sounds good to me and is a nice upgrade from my old copies I pulled down from the archive long ago.

At least that's my take.. I think they got this sounding as good as they could considering the age and mix of the source recordings. I hope that helps.. without listening to your exact copy that's the best feedback I can give.

Dennis

Until we get something prettier, bookmark this: http://www.dead.net/forum/pacific-northwest-73-74-complete-recordings- boxed-set Hey, sometimes the old ways are, if not best, still helpful... Onward! Thanks!

testing, 1,2,3

now where are my sunglasses, this page is so bright, I hafta wear shades

Hovering over Avatar / Background color / Comments sections

Marye~
I don’t know if you saw my post a couple days ago, but you cannot hover on a smart phone (iPhone 8+ / iOS 12). Besides that, clicking on the avatar photo or drop-down arrow is not working on a smart phone, either.

Background color ~
The two things in the comments sections that I thought made it feel personal and intimate (besides everyone’s warm and loving comments 😉) were the background color of the page and the font used for the subject of the comments. I can concede the font, but I think bringing back the familiar color of the background would make this new experience more comfortable. This white makes it feel like it’s just any other site.

Comments sections ~
I agree whole-heartedly with what many are saying about the comments sections on the product pages. I rarely post, probably only a dozen times or less since becoming a member of this site. But these “discussions” are the only reason I regularly come to this site. I know the site was only unavailable for a couple of days or so, but I really missed it. It’s something I like to check in on almost every day. It’s familiar user names like “marye” and many others that let me know I’m in the right place. I’m just not sure about the redecorating yet.

thanks, giu

I've reported this.

marye and jim

I think I found the way here, getting ready for work right now, thanks for the hints.

You have not seen the last of me, this site will not win.

(I don't know how people are inserting emoji's,,, are you just using a cell phone? I'm strictly desktop man)

I only can do :-)

The Wheel Turns

BAM! Website change.

Looks slick, but not very cozy for me.
Probably won't be around as much.
My dead.net friends, you know how to reach me!

Peace.Love.Dead.

Still Getting Used to the Update

Still enjoying the box. So far I've listened to this box from start to finish twice and I feel like I've just scratched the surface. This is definitely one of my favorite boxes.

Re: Charlie3

Just finished my first listen.. digging it as well. I respect the criticism.. but hey, this is my sweet spot and there were many high points for me.

I say this a lot, but this release is worthy.

I also feel like there are quite a few from this era yet unreleased that will surpass this one. It's a period rich in experimentation and improvisation where, with the exception of 1974, very little has been released. On that note, I think much of the 74 material in this box was stronger (at least on the first listen) then some of the 73 material released. Goes to show they are saving some mighty fine stuff for tomorrow's best ever box. Cheers to that.

PMs

Does anyone know how to send or check PM's in the new world order?

Also.. using Windows 10, the hover over the Avatar thing does not open up any menus and the little down arrow to the right is non functional too.. so you folks using phones to access this site are not crazy..

Yes, tone down the white too.

I bet a few of us could put together a ten bullet point list of items that would greatly improve things without being a bunch of whining freaks.. change that.. without being a bunch of whiners.

Shiny and New

Well, this is going to take some getting used to...

Messages

Hey MDJim, or should I say MDJIM, when using my laptop, if I place the cursor over the upper right hand link where the avatar picture is a list of links comes up, including a link to messages. This messages link takes me to previous PMs. I haven't sent any yet, so I can't answer that part of the question.

It's odd seeing everyones user name in all caps.

Re: Avatar Links

That seems to be working for me now too.. but it wasn't over the weekend. Progress.. Thanks Charlie.

Avatar photo link - update

I just want to let TPTB know that the avatar photo link is now working on the iPhone 8+. Thanks for the effort!

Thanks G1U

I'll let the tech folks know.

The Avatar Thingee

in the upper right hand corner is working now. Onward and upward, I always say!

Just recieved my box...

I know it's been put up here numerous times,but I need Dr. Rhino's number or e-mail please.
All four discs from 6-22 will not even play. Not one f'n note. Started in on disc one from 6-26 and it wll not play either.
Before I waste more of my time on what is obviously a VERY FLAWED & EXPENSIVE product I would just like to cut to the chase and see if I can get a full replacement.

Any help would be appreciated.
This is the last time I will be buying anything from these guys again,but I need this fixed.

PW Reset

Testing new site profile....

JR

I've passed this to the Doc. So sorry for the trouble.

Seattle 73

Just want to post a little love for the first Seattle show on the box (6/26/73). Portland 74 is, well Portland 74; other shows have their bits (Seattle 74's 46-minute PITB; the PITB with proto-FOTM snippet at Vancouver 73). But I'm inclined to vote for the He's Gone > Truckin' > TOO > Bobby McGee > TOO > Sugar Mag from Sea 73 as my favorite stretch of the whole set. What a bonanza.

Marye

Thank You
:o)

Change

Where I worked for 36 years was a large 100+ acre multi department facility with 100s of employees. For years the employee cafeteria was a meeting place where people from different departments would gather and bond over a hot meal served by a smiling fellow employee. Some years ago management "modernized" the employee cafeteria by getting rid of the cooks and servers with brand new food vending machines, a fresh coat of paint, tv screens, WiFi, and charging stations. No one eats there anymore. They just walk through, buy what they want, and return to their work station. The social element that had made going to "The Pit" such a pleasure had been removed. Hoping this isn't the same thing happening here.

Admiration

One has to admire someone who can stick with a job for 36 years. I have never managed more than 12 years. 🤤

Tommyboy ie Garcia MIA

Yes, when I first heard this box I said the same thing, Where's Jerry? All three of the 73 shows he is missing or just barely there. It does get better for the 74 shows but still , not great. I can relate to your stereo system, I bet that baby kicks some serious butt. Mac is the way to listen to the Dead. When I was in the service, we had money to burn so we all bought killer stereos (early 70's) and out of all of them I heard, the Mac was the cleanest most defined sound. Beats them all, so it's not your stereo or your ears, it is the recording and it's limitations. Someone said that maybe they turned everyone else up so they could hear themselves, trying something new, whatever the reason, but Bobby, Phil and Billy are very present and sometimes Keith, but Jerry is way, way down in this mix, at least for the 73 shows. Sounds that way on my Nak TA-4A thru Altec Bolero speakers, Nak CD player too.

Campaigns and Unkle

Campaigns, thanks for the comment on the '73 Truckin' medley. If that's someone's favorite stretch, I have to give it another listen. I was so blown away by the 26 minute Truckin' => Jam from the other '73 show, and so bummed about Jerry's lack of presence on a lot of the '73 stuff, that I've been passing this one by. Will have to revisit tinight.

Great segue into my comment to Unkle Sam - the lacka Jerry in the 1973 shows seems to come and go, so there are some tunes that I find are not terrible, but some truly hurt when he's not audible. I feel your pain man. I'd be a real curmudgeon about it all if '74 was like that too, but those 3 shows are among the best sounding of the whole year to my ears. So you know what I do - on my drive to work I turn the balance toward the left channel so I can hear him better. Helps a little. Until you then can't hear Keith.

Oh you have to be kidding me - this robot question keeps popping up while I'm typing, so I end up hitting a link to something else (cell phone). F'ing brilliant.

Marye - I've tried…

Marye - I've tried contacting you via PM which didn't work. Can I ask for your assistance for getting replacement discs for the PNW Box Set. I emailed Doc Rhino 4 weeks ago and was sent a reply on 9/23 saying the replacements would be coming. I've received nothing as of today 10/23. Can you help? I need replacement discs for the following:

1. 6/22/73 - Disc 3

2. 5/19/74 - Disc 1

3. 5/21/74 - Disc 2

Thanks for your help,
Dave Strang

Replacement Discs

I'm in the same boat as Dave Strang, emailed Dr. Rhino about a month ago or more, received an email saying a replacement disc will be sent out, then nothing since then. I am guessing that they had a large number of discs to replace and are just behind schedule, but it is getting to be kind of a lengthy delay in making things right. Fortunately I am just waiting for disc #5 and I am still hoping they make it right, even if it has not happened yet.

yes, folks

I'm having issues with PMs, so just do this for the moment and I will pass this to the Doc. Thanks!

Not sure I can get used to this

Finding threads are very difficult. And once you find them it does not look good especially on my phone. May only have to use this site on a desktop going forward.

Also just noticed I have been assigned an avatar. Would love to have my original one that I uploaded. Oh well

Missing Inbox messages

Anyone else missing their Inbox messages?

Replacement Discs

Howdy, folks! I've had perfect success sending Marye a PM with my order number and the specific disc numbers that I needed replaced from the PNW set. Response was quick and I received my replacements in just a few days. Once the sites issues are resolved with PM's, I suggest that route for those having trouble reaching Dr. Rhino. Good luck!

Yeah

I could have sworn there was a comment page on Dave's Picks 28 but I don't see it now.

Dave's 28 Comments

Try https://www.dead.net/forum/daves-picks-volume-28-capitol-theatre-passai… – takes you straight to 'Comments' without unnecessary clicks.

NW Box Set - Sub Par Sound Quality

Nice packaging and all...but the sound quality is very very sub-par. Jerry's vocals are virtually non-existent in many cases. Can't hear the guitar. I see now many others have similar complaints. Is Rhino actually replacing discs? This is the last box set I'll buy if this is a sign of things to come. I've purchased others and they've all been great. What the heck happened with this set? Very discouraging.

Replacement Discs / DaP 28 Comments

Parabolaus - I'm sure the problem with PMs will be resolved but I wanted to let Marye know about the discs as well as the problem with the PMs. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

hey folks

my PMs are working now! Long version is that the Doc is busily sending out replacement discs, so if you need some, send me a PM and we'll get on it. Thanks!

also, WRT the Jerry-low-in-the-mix issue

The Doc is investigating, please keep the reports coming.

wtfpeople

i have listened to 90% of this release, and have no issue at all with the volume/mix, no scratches, no skips, etc.

just awesome, awesome music.

great box set.

I will now do the Church Lady superior dance.

I am not a robot, but I am an uppity phq.

i am really getting sick of the captcha thing.

"click all zits until there are none left."

three minutes later, "I guess you are not a robot."

Greetings from Korea...

I agree, the mix is spotty in places. But, that is how it very likely is on the master tapes. It shouldn't be from a cd/digital defect.

On a slightly related note, headphones vs. sound systems provide vastly different listening experiences. A lot of times with headphones you hear nuances that aren't apparent on a sound system. Of course, you cannot rattle the walls though with phones and that is part of the fun.

P.S. I haven't yet checked if my discs are scratched up. I just ripped, tagged and have listened to random portions of shows. Perhaps, I should get on that...

Yes

I absolutely love this release. Outstanding

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