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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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  • dilbert
    13 years 10 months ago
    I just noticed the drawing
    I just noticed the drawing above and hope that a pen isn't really bigger than the box/trunk set. That would be interesting trying to handle cd's the size of a pen tip.
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    frampton
    13 years 10 months ago
    optional ways to get this -- ideas
    A friend of mine made the common-sense suggestion that the music could also be sold on a hard drive! Lots of interesting possibilities there; say, a 50 GB portable drive with all the music, photos, essays, etc. Sure, the packaging as proposed has appeal, but the hard drive would allow for more folks to get the music, with at least an alternate cost to the band (in bulk you'd have to think the drive wouldn't cost more than $50 or so, maybe even less). Just a notion . . . Not to worry, though, I'll be buying it!
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    moonbaby
    13 years 10 months ago
    Just wondering
    as stated by direwulf, c.s. also told me if I signed up to be notfied by email when we could order,I should wait for the email, then order... sounds so simple.... however with $450.00 price tag is it safe to assume those who order must be gainfully employed in some way and perhaps cannot stay online constantly to welcome the email ? my patients tend to get a bit testy if I use my med computer shop online while they are waiting for relief...I feel like preventive medicine could have been used by the webgods like proving the system before unleashing such a sought after item for online purchase - but we will patiently wait -after many many years of following the dead what is another millenium? PS take pity on the customer service reps they are only the bearers of bad tidings not the creators
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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to me it's quite the contrary,glad I won't be tangled in this web! 60 discs all at once, quite risky..think about defective discs!
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I buy a lot of CDs; especially a lot of classical CDs, often box sets of 10, 20, 30 or more discs. I've had one defective disc in my lifetime, I think, out of several thousand altogether. It's the least of my worries.
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I also got my reservation confirmation of one of the personalized copies.
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Woke up to an e-mail confirming a personalized copy, man i'm looking forward to this arriving. Hopefully this will be super successful and other big releases will follow. I was looking around on e-bay last night, I did not know that some of the DP were out of print. Some releases were going for 50 or more. GD should offer stock options. Jam on America, spinning some 72 today. Coconut Phil, living Free.
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Is saying, "Yes DO IT, don't hesitate!" The part of me that just found out that my wife needs mucho $$$grand worth of oral surgery, soon, nearly all of it coming out of my pocket is saying," What, are you insane??? Stop visiting that website, put it out of your mind!" For what it's worth, my wife agrees with the part of me lusting for ALL of Europe '72. But she has no concept of money, where it comes from, how much we really have, and so on. Let me go beat my head against a wall for a while, maybe that'll clear things up for me.
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I got my reservation confirmation email so all is good. Regarding defects-I am a classical box set collector as well-never(knock on wood) got a defective disc yet. With Dead stuff-one bad disc since the beginning of the Dick's Picks series, promptly replaced after a call plus the glue issue with Egypt-also replaced w/o any sweat. 1972 is my favorite year of all time even though 1973, 1976, 1977, 1974 are way up there too. I am really looking forward to this release. Huge undertaking to do this techically-hats off to all for the effort. I'm going to take this set with me when they plant me for the last round-up, without a doubt.
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i am thinking of selling my wife to buy this box set!!!!!!
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Something I hadn't considered, Ripple. Now that I'm done beating my head against the wall, it's crystal clear: sell my wife. Solves at least 2 problems with one transaction.
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PTB, could we be notified when the first 3,000 are reserved? I do not really care for the personalization, so I would be more inclined to order later. I'm more interested in the music than the bells and whistles.
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the email that is. Although this was a certified cluster, it has turned out great. I bet this is the way they deal with big projects in the future.
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WOW - - This is great and certainly brings back many memories of when I first listened to Europe "72 and Rockin the Rhein which I listened again to both over the past couple of days. I believe the 22 shows are as follows and I found them @ http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/Europe_72.htm The tour dates were; * April 7, 1972, Wembley Empire Pool, Wembley * April 8, 1972, Wembley Empire Pool, Wembley * April 11, 1972, Newcastle City Hall, Newcastle * April 14, 1972, Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen * April 16, 1972, Aarhus University, Aarhus * April 17, 1972, Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen * April 21, 1972, Beat Club, Bremen * April 24, 1972, Rheinhalle, Dusseldorf * April 26, 1972, Jahrhundert Halle, Frankfurt * April 29, 1972, Musikhalle, Hamburg * May 3, 1972, Olympia Theatre, Paris * May 4, 1972, Olympia Theatre, Paris * May 7, 1972, Bickershaw Festival, Wigan * May 10, 1972, Concertgebouw, Amsterdam * May 11, 1972, Rotterdam Civic Hall, Rotterdam * May 13, 1972, Lille Fairgrounds, Lille * May 16, 1972, Theatre Hall, Luxembourg * May 18, 1972, Kongressaal - Deutsches Museum, Munich * May 23, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London * May 24, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London * May 25, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London * May 26, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London I hope this helps... Vince
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At 3:30 this morning. Smiles all around. Methinks today will be a bit more productive than yesterday.....
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I got a confirmation this morning as well as to having one of the 3000 reserved. Phew! Looking forward to the follow up order email and, of course, receiving the box set and listening to every note, show by show, chronologically!
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Reservation confirmed this morning. I've had virtually no trouble with GDM/Dead.net over the last 15+ years, so I'm confident this will be smooth sailing once the techs sort this out. As for the set, bravo to TPTB for what looks to be a beautiful and sonically bodacious release!
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Got my confirmation in the middle of the night as well. I have at least a third of Europe '72 already on bootleg, and regularly stream the rest on the shows anniversary. But that's not the point. But as others have said, that doesn't mean we should expect the band to open up the vault to us for free. I try to spend a few hundred dollars a year at GDM. For me it's payback for the years of great shows and free music. I missed the '69 Fillmore Box and have subsequently always tried to get special collections as they are released. Is anyone else looking forward to finally hearing a clean board of 4/7/72, after years of having to endure a dreadful audience tape? Not to mention 5/7....
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just read the antimusic sites write up on this release, never to be released again, that's pretty final ain't it? I just can't believe they are only going to produce 7200 and never release again, why? What a shame so many heads won't be able to hear this, shame on you rhino.
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Received the E-Mail Confirmation late last nite, so far so good...Hope y'all are as happy as I am to part with so many $$$$$ !!!! Yes I know we DeadHeads are a crazy lot !!! Feels good though....Happy Birthday-Merry Christmas-Happy New Year-ETC ETC ETC. gr8ful.george
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I read that as this SET will not be sold after 7200 or cutoff datethey certainly will be able to make it available in other means most likely individual shows
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But I would feel a hell of a lot better if I could place the order with my credit card and get THAT confirmation email. I just hope they honor this "confirmation". My point is anyone can get in line for this right now. I wish they would have reserved the orders with a credit card number. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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The jam from 4/7 is on Steppin' Out, D-Rae.
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Sheesh, y'all are a paranoid, not-gonna-be-happy-until-the-box-is-in-my-hands-and-every-disc-plays-flawlessly-with-no-visible-glue-on-the-discs kinda group! ;-)
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Eyes113073: Thanks for that info. I have heard part of Steppin Out via friends, but hadn't saved up the money yet to buy it. Obviously now it's a low priority.
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After this set's run of 7200 copies is sold out, and I'm fairly certain it will sell out, how about a smaller box with a few, cherry-picked shows? A box of three or four shows in one, self-contained box would probably not exceed the price-point of those unable or unwilling to buy the 60 CD package. Just a suggestion. After all, there was a three CD 'best of' release from the '69 Fillmore Box. The complete Fillmore set was 10 CDs, and the 'best of' was 3 CDs. So if Europe '72 is 60 CDs, why not make a smaller, 10 or 15 CD set for the rabble unable to buy the big daddy box? Sound good? And of course, it would be cool if the set was made up of entire shows, like those Paris shows and maybe a couple others.
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I can certainly see the logic behind a smaller, edited set - not full shows, but best-ofs. Each disc a full sequence or more from a show. After all, to be fair, how many Me & My Uncles do you need? You could make a solid 20-disc set with all the best bits from the run. Not that I don't want all the full shows, but as a second box, it would make sense.
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but the easiest thing is to just make the complete shows available separately The "Box sets" are built to order - Each show will come in its on 'soft pack There are already two compilations available from the tour each sold separately at ~$23 or $24....
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I recieved both a reservation email and an order confirmation email. This leaves me a little confused since I never completed the order process and the site says that I have no pending orders.
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What about doing smaller boxes of complete shows from Europe and let us decide which show are include. A la Carte. You could buy single complete shows, a pair of shows, or a trio of shows and we can pick or choose. For example, what if I wanted a three show box, and got 4/7, 5/11, and 5/26. And then I could get another two show box later and get 5/7 (which I've never heard) and 5/23. Or maybe 5/10 instead. Each would be in simple boxes, with limited packaging and different labels from the "big box." This would keep the big box unique and still allow others to have access to the music. Just thinking aloud.
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who keeps up with all this.Hey dead people sell these shows one at a time to us folks who cant come up with 450.All this remastering for only 7200.Come on this is crazy.
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I have to believe that they will be re-purposing these shows at some point after the box runs out of stock, whether they break the tour down in a compilation-style release (like w/ the Fillmore Box), release the shows individually and/or make these available via download. You're right Fred Garvin, I find it really hard to believe they're going to put ALL of this work together for 7,200 people- especially when the demand for these shows has been so high.
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tree-ap2 While the deluxe packaging is a cool idea, the outlay of bread is something most of us just CANNOT justify in these trying economic times---I'm STILL unemployed after almost 2yrs. I brought up an idea some years ago about this specific release of material. Instead of one large check/credit card/cash/money-order payment, we get to order each show individualy. With each show comes the standard "booklet" of historical material, and a proof-of-purchase "box-top" to send in after having purchased all 22 shows. These P-O-P's would get you a choice of some sort of "limited edition something" sent to you---a few limited edition t-shirts relating to the tour or to specific shows, DVD copies of what was filmed, other limited edition E72 stuff, or choice of other CD's/DVD's/t-shirts/books/CD storage crates/jackets/sweaters/etc, etc from the GD Store. Is it me, or does this make just a little TOO MUCH SENSE??? $25 per show is not unreasonable (even in this economy), makes the GD "family" a little more cash, allows us--the ones shelling out the bread--to do so at a more doable level, and still nets us something "special" to go along with this special release. Also, this is just going to end up like the FW Box where only a few got to take advantage of it, and others put up their "extra" copies for sale at COMPLETELY OUTRAGEOUS PRICES. The rest of us mooks got a crappy (it's NOT really crappy, but you know what I mean) greatest hits CD to choose from. We haven't even been able to just download the FW shows in great quality, let alone buy them without all of the extra special specials. The FW Box could be done the same way as I stated above---P-O-P's to send in after purchasing all the shows, and THEN getting something special sent to us. How many remember sending in the proofs-of-purchase after buying several Star Wars action figures so you could get the Boba Fett figure? Same situation. Anyway, MAYBE IF I can EVEN get a part-time job in this economy to pay the $450+tax+SH, and the 7200 issued copies haven't already sold out (like the FW set did) I'll try & talk the wife into letting me shell out this kind of cash. But for now it just looks like another GREAT GD release I won't be able to buy at all. The rich are still rich---and getting richer---and can still afford anything they want---and even buy extra copies to sell to make thenselves still richer. BUT...it's no too late GD/RHINO to DO THE RIGHT THING. You could even still offer the same deluxe package to the 7200 who can shell out the bread right away, but throw a bone to the rest of us---PLEASE!?!?!? In the immortal words still ringing from Rainbow Gatherings past...WEEEEEE LLLOOOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEE YYOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU...........
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Is the price too high for some? Yes, it's big chunk of change out of my pocket at $450 a set. Bring the price down a bit to $420.00 US dollars AND SHIPPING CHARGES INCLUDED IN THE PRICE!And if it's gonna stay at $450 does that include shipping? Hopefully I will be able to by a set, because this one is hot! Such a low number of units, it will be sad if some box sets find their way onto the auction sites at much higher prices. Again, thanks to the powers that be for releasing this whole tour at once.
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There should be a one unit per order limit, so some box sets DO NOT find their on to the auction sites at much higher prices.
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Many have said just give me the music. Maybe they will later as individual shows. Rather than trying to decide ahead of time how to limit them, let the sales decide. I say print up an equal number of copies of each show, and the five that sell out first will be available going forward. The rest, they'd just be available until they sold out the print run and maybe never again. For now the $450 gets you the 22 shows, plus the book, the box and shipping. Excluding the discs, you have to put some value on the book and the box and the shipping. Now, shipping the discs and book in the box ain't free, that's got to be at least $10-20 of value. The book is said to be a coffee table book. I dragged out my Illustrated Trip book for comparison and that thing is a monster. Of course, I practically stole it for $7, but it was originally $50. So let's say the book is worth $20. Then you have the box, which might be equivalent to a Case Logic Nylon 60 CD Carrying Case. So let's call it $20. These are just underestimated ballpark numbers for sake of putting a value on substantive elements outside the CDs themselves.
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and I didn't reserve until late last night. So, unless there is a snafu here, it would appear the first 3000 are not gone yet. You have to be a little insane to buy this thing. The way I see it, and I'm sure others agree, the first European tour represents the absolute pinnacle of the Dead's output. I love Dead music from all eras. But personally, I wouldn't buy a 1990 tour box set or a 1973 tour box set, because those tours pale in comparison to Europe '72. This box is the Holy Grail of the GD, as far as I'm concerned.
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What a clusterfuck! I've now signed up twice, waiting for a confirmation. I know this mirrors the way things are done at Rhino, but please, quit hitting the crack pipe and stick with 1 coherent plan! Please?? I really want this one!!!
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I know this is par for the course with pretty much every release, but please stop the whining. The sense of entitlement that too many people have is the cause for most of the problems we have in this country. Whatever happened to actually working hard, and spare the thought, actually saving money to buy something. They clearly state that this is going to be a special release that is not going to be for everybody, yet, people think it should be made for everybody. To me $450 for just the 22 shows is a very good price. Throw in the extras and it's a steal. Now here's some simple math. The price is $450. You have 8 months to save since they are not actually going to bill you until it's ready to ship. This breaks down to $56.25/month you would have to save, or roughly $14/week. Just maybe when your thinking about ordering that pizza on a Tuesday night, bank the $20. Maybe you skip eating out a few times a month and bank the money. God forbid you might actually have to sacrifice some small things to get something really big. For those complaining that people are going to get rich off of this, well, if they make the money (band, Rhino, others involved), than great for them, they deserve it. I think most don't want to realize the amount of work that actually goes into a small release, let alone one of this scope. Do you think the Dead or Rhino owns the studies where these are being mastered? I think not. They actually have to pay for the time to sit in the studio and do the work. Think about how long the mastering process is. It's not like you roll in there and spit out a show per day. In the RS article, DL said they will have worked on this for over 2 years by the time it officially ships. Chew on that one. Instead of coming here and complaining, if you really want the shows for free, they are out there to be had. You just actually have to be willing to do the work to go and find them. If you want great remastered sound in an excellent package, well, you just do have to pay for some things. As for compilations, individual shows, etc., maybe they will release something maybe they won't. As for a compliation, I would think they would not being there are already 3 compliations from this tour out there (Europe 72, Steppin' Out, Hundred Year Hall). Maybe they will release the individual shows at some point, but I would not hold my breath for that any time soon as it would devalue the box set that they are trying to sell. Maybe next year as downloads on nugs.net, but I would guess not until after the box comes out. In the end, if you cannot spare the money you would have to save over 8 months to buy this, than I would think you have much bigger problems that need your time and energy than bitching about not being able to afford a box set. Just a simple thought there. Rant over. Great job to DL, JN, and all at Rhino. You keep outdoing yourselves! Keep up the great work and keep that music coming!
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Folks, for the moment, here's the current word: For those that got an order confirmation without the proper personalization data, or two order confirmations, they need to contact customer service to straighten things out. (ME in: If in doubt, please check with customer service. We're very sorry about all the hassles.)
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Excellent comments! I just had to log in to say that I second your emotion! And also a word of praise for the folks running this site, who put up with a lot of verbal abuse from the public and still have the humility and good grace to issue apologies. I know people expect internet shopping to be both instantaneous and perfect, but it's still run by human beings. It's easy to forget that when we are looking at a screen rather than a living breathing entity. I've always had a good experience here; thanks to everyone who is working so hard to keep the bus on the road. (Even if there are some bozos on it!) ;)
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I just spoke with Manny over at customer service who assured me that all is well, even if my confimation did not include "the proper personalization data". I have to admit that part of me is wondering if they are going to be able to actually build this box given that they are having such a hard time selling it to willing customers. That said, Dead.net has always come through for me in the past. Guess I'll just hafta' keep the faith! Peace
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I was wondering how long it takes for the confirmation email to show up in my inbox...?Any info would be appreciated.
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norler, when I signed up I got the message that it could be up to 24 hours before an email confirmation is sent. My confirmation, both of them, came to me in around 6 hours.
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this applies to ORDER CONFIRMATIONS, not RESERVATION emails. The reservation emails ensure that you will be able to order a copy and details will be forthcoming. Stay tuned on that one. WRT the order confirmations: If you have an email that lists an order ID but it does not include your personal info (your ID), please follow up with customer service to make sure all is as it should be and to fix it if it's not.
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Got my confirmation email within an hour of signing up stating I am one of the 3000 and they will send further instructions asap. Also an apology for the inconvenience. Could I just say that I don't think either Rhino, the band or Dead.net would have wanted this situation to occur and would most likely not want the hassle attached to the server breakdown if it could have been avoided. Some people are talking on these pages as if the whole thing is a conspiracy just to upset and inconvenience them personally. I shall now proceed to untangle the entire universe.
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when you press this on 200 gram vinyl let me know, until then I'll listen to the shows in my archives.
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Was the Grateful Dead ever meant to be only available to the well-to-do? What would Jerry say about this? Only for trust fund Deadheads?! Maybe you'll give a couple away just like the guys who used to come out the back door would always let people in for free back in the day. Loveya, Jolie Cloud hands reaching from a rainbow Tapping at your window Touch your hair -- Robert Hunter, "Crazy Fingers"