Grateful Dead

Yes, my Let It Grow skips at 1:40.
I bought an ala carte copy to give as a gift and it also has a defective CD 3, you can actually see a defect in the silver surface.
Customer Service says it will take at least 2 weeks due to the high volume of replacements they have to send out.

Maybe defective CDs is actually done intentionally to screw scalpers. At this point you would be crazy to buy any Rhino release that is still in the plastic wrap. There is a high probability that a CD could be defective and you might not be able to get a replacement if you don’t have the original order number.

I better go back and check CDs 1 and 2 more closely for skips.

11-2-77 yesterday, 11-4-77 now, 11-5,6-77 to be played this weekend.
A day or two early is ok.

If so many discs are defective that Rhino ends up making a loss on a release maybe they will rethink their aims, e.g. maybe they should go for good quality rather than the cheapest production. Give consumers what they want.

Still waiting for my copy here in the Nether-regions. With mounting trepidation.

My DaP 28 copy arrived a few days ago and as with all the other DaP's it played perfectly (no skips). I did have a skipping problem on one of the disks of the PNW Box which was the first I had ever encountered from all the Dead box sets.

I thought DaP 28 was a good show although I actually think that Download Series Vol. 4 (June 18 & June 21) is slightly better owing to the wider selection of material. I certainly would be fine with more 76 shows in future DaP's.

76/77 had a lot of good shows with proficient playing although my favorite period is still '68-'74. 76 was the year that Donna's started interjecting her vocals on an increasing number of songs (especially Jerry's) which I don't think was a good thing (which is also a view held by Billy Kreutzmann).

Anybody check out his recent performances? How many musicians are on stage with him ?

I noticed he is playing in Youngstown Ohio and Kentucky, which would be suitable for me to attend because of proximity to where I'm at. Jeez it's been quite a while since I saw him in concert (only once) but certainly he is one of all time favorites to listen to.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dZYh6o3Q1P4

"Narrow streets of cobble stone"

I only sprang for the single disc version of More Blood--halfway regret it now.
The liner notes say that the Idiot Wind version included there--take 4-- is the same version that came out on the first Bootleg Series Box, Vol 1-3, only it's been remixed and the organ removed. But on the original Bootleg Series version, Dylan stumbles over "wasn't" in the lyric "You tamed the lion in my cage, but it just wasn't enough to change my heart." He doesn't do that in the "remixed" version.
Anyone obsessives out there who got the full boxset have any insight? I'm glad it sounds like a different version, but don't know why the liner notes would be wrong. Can't see them fixing the lyric stumble.

Caught Bob Friday night. You can see the recent set lists on his web site, he is pretty much playing the same set list every night. There are 4 other musicians on stage with Bob, he is seated or standing at the piano most of the night, on a few songs he blew his harmonica. The band is top notch, very professional, very tight. A drummer, a bass player (both stand up bass with bow sometimes and hand held), an awesome lead guitarists and a pedal steel/mandolin player who was also very good. There were no introductions, in fact, Bob didn't say a word. He did come out from behind the piano twice to sing with the band, holding a mic with stand and looking very dapper in his black suit with wing tipped shoes. I have seen Bob in every decade since the seventies and this time around, he did not disappoint, the new arrangements of his old songs was just great, loved the way they did highway 61, simple twist of fate, serve somebody, but scarlet town was a real burner, just lovely. I recommend going to see him, he is playing small venues and there are limited seats available. The one thing that was great about the evening was that there were no electronic devices allowed, no cell phones, no ipads, nothing. A card was given out at the entrance door stating that no taping, pictures or video would be allowed and if caught trying to do any of those things, you would be escorted out of the hall. Thank you Bob for that, it was great not having to look around somebody who stood up all night long trying to record his performance (like what I experienced at Roger Waters' concert) There were a couple announcements stating that no recording of any kind would be tolerated and the ushers did a great job keeping those who tried to break the rules in check. Also, like an opera, there was no seating allowed while the band played, if you got to the show late or got up to get a refill, you had to wait by the door for the song being played to be over, then they let you go back to your seat. We had a blast and I highly recommend going if you can get a ticket, selling out quick due to the small venues. He played exactly 2 hours, from 8:02 till 10:02, and it was over including a two song encore. The stage setup was quite nice too, very low key with just the right amount of lighting.
Out of all the times I have seen Bob, this ranks up there as one of the best.

That sounds like a great time ! I'm going to have to check it out

If anyone has the chance to see Bob and Wolf bros , I would recommend highly. I may go to Louisville Tuesday. Chicago Halloween was really nice performance, I bailed right after the show though. Made it back home by sunrise, with rain the entire drive

Spinning Dave's Picks 28 along the way. Disc 2 & 3. I had a healthy serving of disc one before I hit the road.

And coincidentally two Chicago shows stashed at the top of stack of CDs tucked away in a Garcia hat got some spins too

6.29.76 second set ~ Wheel is turning and you can't slow down. You can't let go and you can't hold on. Can't go back and you can't stand still. If the thunder don't get you THE lightning will !!!

And good portion of 7.25.74 !! Scarlet Begonias. The Wall of Sound !!!!!!!!

Nice take on your Dylan outing. He's never disappointed me, either, and that's a goddamn crack band he has propping his old ass up every night. Charlie Sexton had been there forever, guessing he still is but not doing any homework tonight. They all underplay massively and support the Bard in such a graceful way.

Goddamn Bob Dylan. I fucking love him, what an American treasure. Thank you Unkle for sharing.

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after all that, there is still people on this site who are trying to sell me stuff that I don't need. Get em, Mary. Ps Vote like your life depends on it, cause it does, stop the madness that is 45 and his republican cronies, vote a straight democratic ticket, rid the country of these self centerd, lying, racists, money loving bullies.

Keep it to the Dead. We don't care about your politics.

Hi everyone - I went to go play 11/5/79 today (a great show from my hometown of Philadelphia) and realized I no longer have the files that I downloaded from this release! Does anyone know if it's possible to download this release anywhere else? Doesn't look like it's on iTunes...

Finally got around to Disc 3 of DP# 28 & lo & behold a few minutes into Let It Grow a horrible sound (almost like a record skipping) & won't stop. Forward & jumps to Wharf Rat. I even have a DP 3 & 4 where a couple of the discs will not read anymore. I had a good Rotel player but thought it had bit the dust. Even bought a new player, $800, & apparently it is the discs, not the player. Tried several. I have had a few bad experiences with my purchases of these releases, box sets & DP. It seems to be way above what is even close to normal. For some reason I expect better. If it was because of the recording / ravages of time it would be different. This is just bad quality manufacturing.

I have a crisp board of this show.. agree, a great show. I am more than happy to pass it on. Just shoot me a pm and I will wetransfer it.

In between TMNS and Scarlet Begonias, it sounds like Jerry is saying "must be 100 degrees in here" and bobby (in response to a fan) says "We don't do that one anymore...not for a while".

Anyone with better hearing than me know which song he was referring to?

Does anyone here know why the newspaper clippings that are on the jacket are from the Portland Oregon show and not the Passiac NJ show? Usually, the newspaper clippings that accompany a Dave's Picks are either the build up to, or a review of, the show itself.

I have had success getting scratched discs to work by having any culprits buffed at the local pawn shop. Think it costs $1-$2 apiece.

I'm afraid it wouldn't work with DaP28 though, there had to be a process flaw with it somewhere along the line.

Folks, if you haven't yet check your disc 3's!! Mine had a flaw within the first 2 minutes of the first Let it Grow...

P.S. edit @HDUDE711 Usually, but not always...it is not out of the ordinary to have clippings from nearby shows accompanying a release (and there have been a lot of them now!) Keep 'em coming!!

My only guess is they're supposed to set the scene for this show, like heads at the time reading newspaper reviews of shows leading up to theirs. Just a guess though, it probably isn't anything that logical.

Dancing in the streets, disk 2 Dap 28 is ripping. One of the better versions.

What's the matter, afraid you may need to work for a living?

Please try and keep politics and personal attacks to a minimum.

Yeah politics sucks but you cant get out of a shitstorm by pissing into the wind. I agree with ya, if my grandfathers, one who liberated France from D-Day on and another who was a B-17E navigator shot down and imprisoned in a Nazi POW for four years camp were alive to see what Trump and his followers were doing to this country while remaining silent about the rampant Nazism and every day racism popping up in the Republican party, they would be beyond furious. Funny one of them was a staunch Republican too. Unfortunately most Baby boomers are spoiled post-war economy whiners with no sense of how good they actually had it and have lost it all for everyone because of overconfident pompous ineptitude and rampant greed.

Our best hope now is that they only completely screw the younger generations out a livable planet before their all dead in 15 years.

The Greatest Generation I revere, but the Boomers damn alot of them are losers, all about the show but no substance. Popular vote should win elections not data-mined gerrymandering to flame the last gasps of a generations illusion of profundity and power. Sadly for them history will probably not paint them favorably, especially with their climate change is fake bs, long moral arc of justice indeed.

..I saw a couple of great ones in London last weekend at the London Palladium, no less. On Saturday night it was King Crimson, who played with incredible power and dynamics for several hours. This is the new three drummer line up, and it worked perfectly, the sound, the set list-even the audience was great, respecting the request not to use mobile phones during the show. They actually listened during the quiet parts, too.
On Sunday, I saw Hawkwind at the same venue, backed by an orchestra. It felt very strange seeing them at the Palladium, which was a bastion of the establishment when I was growing up. There was a television programme called "Sunday Night at The Palladium" in the 1960s, which was a favourite of mums and dads, and featured "light entertainment". Hawkwind, on the other hand, were THE anti establishment band, often playing for free at festivals. If you have never heard them, the live "Space Ritual" recorded in 1972, is the one to go for. Its up there with Deep Purple's "Made in Japan " in my estimation.

No Daves Picks yet. I wait with bated breath.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised DaveRock. The recording and mix, in particular, are exceptional. Good to hear about your positive experiences in the city..

Please folks.. resist the temptation and don't let things dissolve into tit for tat and discord.

If people measured Obama with the same measuring stick they use for Trump, everybody would be calling Obama a racist. The guy has a history of commiserating with anti white people. He hung out with Farrakhan and suppress pictures of it, he had his portrait taken buy an artist known for painting pictures of black women holding decapitated heads of white people. Do yourself a favor and look at the entire picture. CNN and MSNBC do not report on such things. Do yourself a favor and don't rely on them for your news. And exercise some intellectual honesty. Is Trump really a racist? I don't know, but I dunno that I have watched the media twist his words frequently to paint him as a racist. I'm not saying he doesn't make some questionable remarks but I am saying that a lot of people are all too eager to jump on that hate bandwagon that has been exaggerated by the media for propaganda purposes. The same people who condemn hate speech. If you really want the bad feelings and negativity to go away, you need to stop taking sides and start listening to everybody. You may learn something about yourself.

I was thinking along those lines myself. Thanks for your input!

Not sure if anyone watches Ozark on Netflix or not (spoiler alert), but last night my wife (who's not a Deadhead) shook me awake as I was dozing off while we were watching Episode 4 on Season 2 of Ozark. At about the 38 minute mark of that episode a plot line begins involving a set of Dead & Co. tickets that will eventually be used later in the episode as a bribe (don't you let that deal go down indeed). Apparently Dead & Co. are playing two upcoming shows in Missouri & another two in Nebraska! (please God, let this be true!) I declared to my wife, if that happens then I'm going to all of em....(a quick muffled laugh & eye-roll from her) and then I promptly fell back asleep.
And then, I wake up to find a very nicely done Black Throated Wind > Deal on my doorstep. Unbelievable......Can someone please tell me how they do that?

Last 5:

Pittsburgh, PA, Pittsburgh Civic Arena - September 24, 1973
Niagara Falls, NY, Niagara Falls Convention Center - April 17, 1984
Oakland, CA, Coliseum Arena - December 28, 1988
New York, NY, Felt Forum - Madison Square Garden - December 4, 1971
Chicago, IL, Kinetic Playground - April 25, 1969

Today.....something from the 90's.....hmmm.......any suggestions?

Edit: And what do ya know, I look up and....today is my Dead.Net, One Year Anniversary......It was on this day, one year ago, when I completely plunged down the rabbit hole after discovering "30 Days" on November 1st....close to some 200 shows later, I'm very happy to be here, digging deeper, and I've met a few friends along the way. Thanks to all for the warm welcome, and especially ForensicDocEleven, MDJim (or is it JiminMD?), and Oxford 88 for loading me up with so many great shows. I'm forever Grateful.

Play Dead People,

KCJ

The indelible certainty of the political posters here makes it pretty clear we're losing the possibility of creative problem solving and respectful dialogue. In any case, there're places for polishing personal political mythologies, but I don't think that's what this forum's here for. Play Dead. Onward (through the fog).

"Hawkwind, on the other hand, were THE anti establishment band, often playing for free at festivals. If you have never heard them, the live "Space Ritual" recorded in 1972, is the one to go for. Its up there with Deep Purple's "Made in Japan " in my estimation."

Space Ritual IS pretty awesome. If, like me, you really dug Spacemen 3 or Loop but ignored Hawkwind, you NEED to check out Space Ritual.

Dave, are there Hawkwind fans on your side of the pond who revere Thatcher and tell people to "cut your hair and get a job"?

....guess if there was one day this was going to come up, it would be today. And yes I voted, and no I'm not telling. Firestorms tend to erupt when one voices their political tendencies, which is sad and lame. For both sides. Personally, I wish Kasvot Vaxt was on the ballot. Easy pick.
....edit. And no CaseyJanes, I haven't watched Ozarks yet, although it did peak my interest. It was that or The Haunting of Hill House. Flipped a coin. Came up tails. Ozarks was heads...

Wavy Gravy was my favorite candidate when he ran as Nobody for President.

Pat Paulsen was a close second. Anybody remember him?

Other than that, I will respectfully add no fuel to the fire, but just encourage everyone to vote. Take nothing for granted!

I really like this DaP 28 too.....

I remember those years.. quite a long time ago. Seems almost like another lifetime ago.

Daverock - going to see King Crimson tomorrow in Nottingham. Can’t wait - thanks for your write up. I also saw Blackberry Smoke here in Nottingham last Sunday who were really good - did a version of Lovelight which was quite different and pretty impressive. I too am waiting for DaP28. I have two subs, one for me and one for a friend. One copy of DaP27 came really quick but the other nearly three weeks after. Go figure!

Really find it kind of interesting to see what people think. If you can't even talk about different political views without fear of being attacked for expressing different views, how do things improve? It should not be impossible to share radically different views without labeling one side wrong, bad or evil just because they don't share your philosophy.

Personally, I don't trust anyone to make decisions for me, and I have no desire to make decisions for anyone else, so I want a government of limited power and authority, not an all powerful nanny to guide me through every choice in life by dictating which are acceptable.

Morality requires choice. If you voluntarily decide to help your neighbor, you are making a moral choice. If you are forced to help your neighbor, it is no longer a moral choice, merely a reaction to an external compulsion. The more that the government directs people how to behave in their day to day lives, the less people exercise their independent moral compass, and as with anything unused, it atrophies, perhaps to ill effect for everyone.

On a lighter note, I've been down the Red Dead 2 rabbit hole the last few days and it occurs to me that more than the train robbing, what I want to do is find a watchman by a fence to jump, maybe take his ring and four bucks in change...

Remember him running. Remember him sitting in a bathtub scrubbing an engine?

That's the problem.. give it five minutes and the discussion turns into personal attacks and low blows.. at least around here. ..and it stays ugly for days. I usually disappear. It's a slippery slope and it gets way uglier than it ever should.

I contributed by voting.

Now that I have two solid listens of #28 (still enjoying it).. I am looking forward to The Swing.

Hope you enjoy King Crimson tomorrow night, Frank. This was the first time I have seen them, and I really hope to see them again in the not too distant future. I won't say any more about Saturday's show-but it started very promptly at 7.30pm, and there was no support act. They played for about an hour, then, after an intermission, for another hour and a half approximately. There's also a great 3cd/blu ray box set of a recent show in Mexico called "Meltdown" that's just come out. Highly recommended. I bought it on Saturday at the show-for £30.00-£7.00 less than on Amazon last time I looked. Great sound quality, great playing...wish I lived in Nottingham!

I haven't heard any Hawkwind fans speaking up for Thatcher-but everyone was very well behaved at The Palladium. In fact, everyone remained seated until the dual encore of "Spirit of the Age" and "Silver Machine". I did detect a familiar whiff of weed at one point. You can't take some people anywhere. But yes, Hawkwind were the spiritual fathers of Spacemen 3 and Loop.

Dark Star- I hear all your points & even actually agree that Trump is probably not a racist. But what Gillum said in Florida about his opponent probably works with Trump “Now, I’m not calling him a racist. I’m simply saying the racists believe he’s a racist.” So it would be cool if the rhetoric from the very top could be toned down. Instilling fear about invasions, calling out CNN, Obama & Hillary as enemies rather than opponents simply empowers the sickos out there to hate even more. I know it's simply a political tactic, but it could lead to some serious sh*t. My ears and eyes are wide open, so I see a lot on the left that is inciteful as well. If Democrats win the house they simply need to put forward an agenda, work with the Trump administration on immigration, healthcare, etc. If it devolves into let's start an impeachment, then we will never come together. I truly don't know if we can get it together as a country, but I'm hopeful.

These are just my opinions, sorry if it causes people to get all excited here. Just a lot of heavy stuff on my mind the last few tumultuous weeks, so venting helps a bit. Anyway, the recording of DP 28 is truly amazing. Betty rules!

I take your point, Charlie, but feel it is made from a position of power. I love going to London for all sorts of reasons-but it is sickening to see so many homeless people bedding down on the street for the night. Its one thing being kind to your neighbour-these people don't even have neighbours. Me putting a coin in a cup by their side shows what a great guy I am-but it doesn't change anything. I can't speak for America, but in England if you leave it up to the individual, then its survival of the fittest. Or luckiest. The only way I can see the most vulnerable people in society being helped is through political change-it can't just be left to gratuitous acts of kindness by individuals.

Freshly arrived in San Francisco from France, October '76, I had two priorities: buy a guitar and a record player; I quickly round up an old acoustic Norman from a pawn shop. As I make my way back to my hotel on Post, I run into a crowd of people in front of the very fancy St Francis hotel; this funny looking, agitated guy wearing a straw hat comes out followed by a bunch of reporters, grabs me and asks me to back him up while he plays Oh Susanna on his harp, which I did. I was then interviewed by a couple of SF Chronicle reporters who informed me the guy in question was Lester Maddox. I had no idea who he was, being more familiar with Pompidou and George Marchais, so they gave me one of his pamphlets...felt pretty bad, especially since the Chronicle published the piece with my name in
there(article was kinda' funny though.) To put that in a more relevant, historical context, that was just two days after the excellent Dead/Who Day on the Green shows.

....updated dead.net is passable on my computer. Now home, in my chair, relaxing, and dead.net sucks. Sorry. It sucks on mobile. Now I'm tense again. I need some more wine. Still testing out that search bar on top though.

I also take your point, and I think everyone would agree that alleviating suffering is a noble goal, but the devil is in the details and is limited by human nature itself, including the tendency of some individuals to repeatedly create avoidable problems for themselves. Ultimately, when you force someone to do something against their will, even something that you consider noble, it creates more suffering in that individual and makes you an oppressor. Not for me thanks.

As far as position of power, I got a kick out of that. Let's say a position of borderline sufficiency with an everpresent threat of financial ruin. I truly enjoy the respectful flow of information and opinions and continue to enjoy reading your posts. Hopefully my views have not caused anyone agita.

I don't take the least offence in anything you say, or in your manner of saying it. When I think of -what I consider to be-life's inequalities-I think of my own role in this as much as anyone else's. What I say is more a reflection on how I live and have lived than anyone else's.

I am also in a position of power. I retired early 5 years ago when I was 56, and I've got my own house and car etc etc. Trips to London to see bands, hotels etc etc. Partly I am in this position because I worked hard and saved. And part of it is because of rank good luck. I made every bad choice I could between the ages of about 15 and 25. I would have made more than I did , had the opportunities arisen. But when the mist cleared, I had parents behind me, an education that - although I cocked up-could be resumed again, with their financial support. A lot of people on the street have nothing like this support system in place-and the simple unfairness of this is inescapable to me. Why I am the man giving a coin to someone lying on the street, rather than the man receiving it, seems more than the consequence of me working hard, and them being lazy.

But having said that, I have no more idea how to effectively address these issues than anyone else does.

you should care and I don't need a job, happily retired pulling in a pension and SS. lol the same responses I got back in the old days, get a job and a haircut. The wheel is turning and you can't go back and you can't stand still, even you who pose as deadheads should know that.

Got one of my two copies today and loved disc two and much of disc one. Disc three has the fabled skip in Let it Grow but it was only momentary. I have to say that I’m not a fan of this fast paced version. OK, I have plenty of other versions which don’t sound as if Bobby’s got ants in his pants, but I don’t see myself revisiting this. The rest of disc three is fine.

Edit: I’ve just put this into iTunes and no skip! On second listening i rather like the drums into the second part of Let it Grow. Perhaps I will revisit this version!

Actually most religions are based on the individual doing the right thing to help those who need it. I am not saying large units like government, charities etc should not also be doing something. Do not many not bring on vulnerability by their poor and continuing poor choices as to life? It was free loaders who brought down the DEAD scene in the end. Those who showed up with no food, little money no clothing or preparation for night living yet always had booze and drugs. They turned to begging, and stealing from other DEAD fans. Too many times those in parking lots were ripped off or where ever they were camping. Today, most homeless encampments are populated by those choosing to do heroin and like minded life crippling drugs. Sure ask me for something for the sick, the families getting bad breaks, vets etc., but I don't want to hear from those doing their private personal hygiene on the sidewalks or can't get rid of their own needles.

Funny, we are pretty close in age and your personal history sounds somewhat similar to mine - I also ran wild with poor choices, got arrested at age 20 and convicted of possession of LSD (fortunately pleaded down to a misdemeanor), and with me also it was my family that stood by me and helped me to get on track and complete a couple of advanced degrees. I still do not feel that I did anything morally wrong, by the way, and found that there are lasting insights from tripping if you pay attention. Also, I found tripping to be instrumental in leading to a change in mindset that let to quitting smoking cigarettes and quitting doing coke, so overall I found tripping to be pretty positive, but the state disagreed.

JDSEPT, liked your post, and it raised an example of some of the points that I was thinking about when referring to individuals making bad choices - some folks will take the help, fritter it away, and come back for more, while others silently struggle to do it on their own. Are you really just enabling the person who seeks to live on the charity of others when they could support themselves? Unclear that there is any solution, or that human misery can ever be eliminated, but I dig the discussion.

Yes-very similar. I only had a lump of hash in my pocket when I got busted aged 21. I also agree with your comments on psychedelics. I don't regret taking acid at all-although I much preferred mushrooms. In fact I carried on taking those after I had settled down somewhat. I think I was 32 when I had my last trip-still a long time ago. But I felt, and still do, that tripping helped me in life. The trouble with LSD, though, for me, was never knowing how strong it was going to be. It seemed to fluctuate wildly, from being very weak to incredibly powerful.

Far and away the most dangerous drugs I took were barbiturates and alcohol. Psychedelics seemed more like a positive sign post compared to crap like that.

...I’m still enjoying this release/pick as well.
I had surgery on Monday and when I was sent home I put the show on replay and listened to the show all day and night long in and out of consciousness...still, that 76’ vibe sure did help me good, great medicine music can be!
Also this is the first daves pick I had an issue with my copy. Two out of three discs skip/flutter and I tried on three different players. All repeated the same error. I contacted Dr Rhino for help, I hope everything can be fixed. Over all, this is a primo show, I enjoy the road-trip Boston 76’ release more but I’m grateful to add this performance to my Daves Pick Complete Collection... rock on my brothers and sisters , peace be with you all! :)

Hope you're recovering nicely. 1976 dead shows have a healing vibe for sure so no doubt you'll be on your feet soon.

I mentioned this to someone the other day, but I think part of the reason I have also been enjoying this show so much is that life has been so hectic lately between work, travel, and home life and listening to this show has definitely helped bring a much needed calming vibe into my day to day. June 76 shows in particular are just so cool and unique. Dave, thank you for this and keep 'em coming!