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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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June 15, 2018 - 9:59am

#3661

RobbZ

Joined:
October 25, 2011

1989 Recommendation

Not sure why, and probably listen to it a bit more than I should, but July 4th, Buffalo has always been a favorite of mine.
June 15, 2018 - 9:48am

#3662

RobbZ

Joined:
October 25, 2011

Sports Fans!

Sports?? I’ll watch/wager on just about any sport. However, I closely follow the NHL and College Football equally (viewing depends on who is playing whom on any given evening). Then the NFL, College Basketball, The NBA, Boxing (was the Mayweather-McGreggor fight boxing?) the CFL, and lastly Baseball. Now don't get me wrong about baseball because it's last on my list...I grew up in Cleveland, minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and watched & cheered many Indian greats such as Ray Fosse, Gaylord Perry, Lenny Barker, Albert Belle, Rick Manning, Mike Hargrove, Super Joe Charboneau, Buddy Bell, and Toby Harrah to name a few. Now a bit later in life, I just prefer a faster game, with an actual clock ending the game. I can't spend 5 or 6 hours watching a baseball game anymore....It's me, not you...LOL @The Outer One…I was actually tuned in last night to the opening of the CFL season, but that lightning delay lasted until I went to sleep. But you can bet I’ll be following the season this year as it progresses…including the Manziel saga in Hamilton. Johnny won me an ass-load of money when he played with A&M…I still talk about that Bama game…LOL @Vguy72…did you not mention the Knights/NHL in your sports post? Blasphemy!! I drove down from Utah three times last season to watch the Knights, would have gone more games but as the season progressed they got better and better and tix were getting expensive. In the mean time I watch the Utah Grizzlies…LOL
June 15, 2018 - 9:45am

#3663

Thats_Otis

Joined:
May 12, 2011

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Here's a little something special from this day in Grateful Dead history - 6/15/85 Greek Theater https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-15.oade-schoeps.sacks.24586.sbeok.f… The AUD sounds really nice too. Perhaps more famous is 6/15/76, which I am enjoying right now, but that 85 Greek show is something special! TONS of energy, and perhaps one of Garcia's finest ballad moments on "She Belongs to Me." His guitar solo is a thing of pure (American)beauty. Hope everyone has a great weekend! PS - Love all the chatter about July 78 Box. Arrowhead is my personal fave - just a compact, tight, smoking show! I also really like St. Paul... aww hell, they're all good! Peace
June 15, 2018 - 9:38am

#3664

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Boblopes

Thanks, another great story!
June 15, 2018 - 9:36am

#3665

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

89 Philly

Right on 80sfan!
June 15, 2018 - 9:35am

#3666

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Baseball, 89, and hangin with Jer

BASEBALL; I would of died for baseball when I was a lad, was a pretty good player too, varsity etc.. But like all sports I sadly watched money ruin the game....I was a huge Cardinals fan (used to listen to them on the mighty KMOX) Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Ted Simmons, Joe Torrey, yeah baby. Dug the Red Sox too, but such heartache. In Wesren NY most kids at the time were big Mets fans, or worse, ahem... So like most things I had to be different, the outcast, the other one! Probably a part of how I came to be a dead head and identified with all you weirdos; ) 89; personally parts of 89 into summer 90, before Brenski started to unravel, is one of my favorite eras. I know that’s contrary to the popular belief of a small but prevalent group on here, but don’t let that stop anyone from checking it out and coming up with your own conclusions.... Alpine for sure, Hampton, 10-16-89 is imho one of the best releases EVER! Philly was awesome, really wish they would get those out. When they played California Earthquake right after the Earthquake it was as good as any big moment in sports, trully powerful experience, at least live anyway. Not as familiar with the rest, of course the Miami DS etc.... EVIL TWIN; thanks so much for the stories! Please keep them coming. That’s perhaps my favorite part of this site; hearing great stories, especially from those who were there during those earlier glory years. 78 Box; even I dug it and I like that era less than some others, like??? Oh I don’t know like.... 73/74!!! So psyched for this new Box. Mostly enjoyed the “Mickey Godchaux” stuff of recent years, really liked the RFK, but I’m dam near Sh#&&ing myself waiting for this one! I’ve stated before I’m not a “taper” or obsessive collector like some. So that influences my wish list differently. I would like to get all the shows I was at, some other must haves or interesting wierd stuff, and I try to get at least copies of all the “official” stuff. Therefore I am not familiar with these shows and at first glance the set lists are perhaps meh? But thanks to all y’all’s comments about monster jams, and after watching Dave’s chat, well it got through my thick skull that these will be some real beauties eh! I mean Late 73 has always been one of my top, if not the top eras, I just wasn’t familiar with earlier stuff and though I like 4-3-73, it didn’t blow me away like say 10-19-73....(although that HCS and subsequent jam are sweet!) In fact how bout the rest of the late fall tour in a box? So there is always that awkward period like Ralphie in the Christmas story where he gets everything except that —“redriderbbgunwiththecompassinthestockandthisthingythattellstime” —when they release something I wasn’t at, but this time that lasted like 5 minutes. Now hopefully Dave’s 27 will come soon as a diversion, because I don’t know how I’ll survive until September! Yee-gads Thanks to Dave and all the gang who work so hard to bring us spoiled, whiney little be-atches all this amazing glory, especially the full led sonically enhanced stuff. And thanks to all y’all that help enlighten us dilatantes to the finer ports of these shows. Happy Friday All!!
June 15, 2018 - 9:31am

#3667

Slow Dog Noodle

Joined:
June 12, 2007

Cash Grab

Had a salad for lunch yesterday. I didn't get to make it myself, but it was delicious. It was a total cash grab though. They didn't really care whether or not I liked the way the radishes were cut into those little swirly shapes. And the way the cashier pressed those buttons on the register with no elan, I could tell his heart and soul just wasn't in the transaction. I knew by then they were just in it for the money. I shook my head in disgust but proceeded to sit alone and eat the salad - even the radishes, in spite of it all.
June 15, 2018 - 9:06am

#3668

Oroboros

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Cousins- SpaceBro often provides informed recommendations re: 89

But being a Midwesterner, I would point to the Alpine Valley run 7/17-18-19/1989, as an outstanding representation of the boys from that era. And my touring had reduced significantly with the arrival of my three sons, so my knowledge of this era is limited. And Robbz, you asked for another story (sorry cohorts who have heard this one, here it comes again) there is a 'prequel' to that 1978 story. Back in 1977, my girlfriend (now wife), myself, and two buddies decided to road-trip from Lincoln Nebraska to the Winterland for the New Year's Eve run of shows in San Francisco. I toted along with us a clay sculpture that I had made the prior year. It was a one and 1/2 foot (in circumference) dragon that was biting/consuming it's own tail. I had 'scraffitto' (carved designs) into the entire beast's 'hide' and then it was fired and stained. It was the biggest piece of clay sculpture that I have ever made. And I thought it would be fun to give it to the band on New Years. So away we go, get to the venue and secured tickets for the run (12/27-29-30-31-77). The shows were unbefuckinliveable and Winterland was such a great hall. But on the 31st, we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the doors to open, talking and watching the circus, ready to hurry and get in for the 'activities' ie. freak volleyball and Bill Graham was going to show us movies (Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man and the original Beatles Magical Mystery tour) before that evening's show. I thought "I better try to unload the dragon aka 'Oroboros' now, it's heavy and I don't want to try to talk my way though the front gate with it." I spied a door that said 'Backstage' and began knocking on the door. No answer. The line of people on the side walk started getting up and moving toward the entrance. Banged even harder thinking "I've got to get this dragon in there so I can go in the front and join in before the show", and as I pounded harder, the door yanks open with a force that it yanks me into the doorway. This doorway is immediately filled with a gigantic black man in a red event t-shirt, who puts his hand on my chest and leans forward and bellows "WHAT DO YOU WANT?" Startled, I held out the dragon with both hands and stuttered "to give this to the band". The giant took it in his immense hand and his face curls into a grin as he held it closer to inspect it and I watched my dragon shrink to the size of a key chain. He exclaimed "Wow, what is this, I'd like one" and I explained "it's an oroboros and that is the only one there is." He grinned and said "Cool, who do you want me to give it to?" and I said "to Garcia, give it to Jerry Garcia." The giant disappeared as quickly as he appeared and the door slammed shut like the the first time Dorothy tried to get into the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz. So, I happily gain entrance to the show and needless to say, it was something, 'freak volleyball' followed by the movies, Graham's copy of Bradbury's 'Illustrated Man' followed by a 16 mm Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour". The colorful/wonderful crowd, wonder gal 'rainbow' Rose with an eyedropper of liquid party favor "just one dollar per drop. On your tongue or for the adventurous, a drop in your eye". Oh, and when each person walked through the entrance the staff handed us a piece of paper that had a message about a "Good things come to those who wait, surprise at midnight" with steal your face logo. When you entered Winterland, you could go into the big 'hall' surrounded on all sides by an elevated balcony, (with theater seats). You could also go into a bar, which played some black and white videos on a 'big screen' taken from pro shots of the Winterland stage when Hendrix or Airplane or etc played. Very entertaining on many levels. Hey, the New Riders of the Purple Sage are starting, got to get in there, the sound is loud and they are rocking the house. Anticipation was high and the Dead came out for the first set. Our party favors are now starting to engage..., things began to sparkle, and the old Winterland venue takes notice, and her walls start to sweat and, then to sway with the strains of familiar music as the Dead coaxes this old hall to dance with us. This is such a delight, I know the vista cruiser is engaged and then I notice when the house lights went down, and the stage lights went dark in between songs, then I saw 'it'. On top of a monitor, in between Billy and Mickey, there was a flame, it was a white candle sitting in front of a dragon consuming it's tail. It was Oroboros, ON STAGE WITH THE DEAD! I watched as Jerry walked over and lit a cigarette off the candle next to the ceramic beast. They took a break and the surprise for the second half was Uncle BoBo (as Bobby liked to call Graham) dressed up as Uncle Sam on a motorcycle sliding down on a cable suspended high from the back of the hall (over us) to the stage. They put spotlights on him (as the Dead made appropriate musical anticipatory noise) and he approached the stage and it was hilarious. Because as Graham came to the stage, the weight of the bike and BoBo was too much. He and the bike were far below the lip of the stage, so the stage hands had to rush out and drag him onstage. Which triggered the explosion of Sugar Magnolia, complete with the dropping balloons. And flanking the Dead a gal and guy dressed in a diaper as the 'New Year' babies. I was 'sittin' on top of the world (Dead reference intended). What a night!! Hey if you pull up 'YouTube', type in Dead NYE show 1977- Fire on the Mountain video, and right at the end of Fire on the Mountain, the camera does zoom in on the 'oroboros' for a couple of seconds. RDevil here on Deadnet found that 'view' a couple of years ago and he clued me into it. And then I showed it to my 3 sons to demonstrate the old man is not full of beans or any other'brown material'. Anyway, what a treat that run in 1977 was. At many levels, the return of China Cat-Rider, my being able to 'gift' our band, who poured out so much to us. But unknown to me, the best would be yet to come. We walked out into the cool San Francisco early morning and drove through the fog back to Nebraska. This is not the end of the tale. Fast forward to 2-3-78 and another road trip to Madison, Wisconsin. The Dead were on a roll and this was really a killer show. That Cold Rain and Snow to start out and the tremendous second half with Estimated>Eyes>Wheel that will knock you into orbit. The next morning before I left the hotel, I got a wild hair and called the front desk and asked "Could I have Jerry Garcia's room please?" and the phone rang and Jerry answered! I said "Hey, I'm the guy that brought the dragon to the New Year's show" and Garcia immediately said "Meet you in the coffee shop in 20 minutes". I couldn't believe what was happening but stumbled into the coffee shop at the appointed time and looked around and saw Jerry Garcia seated at a table with a ravishingly beautiful raven-haired gypsy woman. I walked over and introduced myself, and 'shook the hand, that shook the hand, of PT Barnum and Charlie Chan'. Jerry beamed that smile and gestured and said "sit down, man". He asked me "How did you fire that dragon so that it didn't explode in the kiln?" and I explained how I had cut it in half and hollowed it out and then joined it back together. I told him how I had used a guitar string to 'halve it" and we locked eyes at that moment and he burst into laughter and I said "Ironic, huh?" and Jerry quipped "No, man that makes perfect sense." And then we laughed some more. Then the gypsy/beauty said "where are you from?" and I replied Nebraska. And she shot Garcia a glance and stated "he came all the way up here from Nebraska to see the band!" To which Jerry shrugged his shoulders and quickly retorted "we didn't ask him to come". Garcia looked over to me and we both howled with laughter again. No deadhead was she. We talked more about art and the dragon and I didn't know at that time of Garcia's interest and practice in art (this kind anyway). He was completely engaged in the topic of art, but quick witted with 'turn on a dime' twists, turns, and little commentaries on a variety of topics. Jerry was also focused on listening, not acting like he was the important one, giving me time and locked in on our discussion and talking about our shared interests. The gypsy woman frowned in disbelief as she asked me "You went out to San Francisco for New Years and then you came up to Wisconsin" and I said 'yes.' She looked perplexed. Then I turned to Garcia and asked him "Why don't you bring the circus back to Lincoln, Nebraska?" He quickly replied "You mean to Perishing Auditorium?" And I corrected him "No, it is Pershing Auditorium, after the army general" and he quickly retorted "No man, it was perishing, really!" And we both burst out laughing again. At that Lincoln, Ne. Dead show on 2-26-73, there were a bunch of drunk frat boys yelling 'boogie, boogie" at the top of their lungs.., but that show is top-notch! Anyway, I asked Garcia "could you bring the Dead back to Nebraska" and Jerry grinned that Cheshire cat grin and said "who knows?" I took my leave (their breakfast arrived) and drove home. Then that summer the Dead came back to Omaha, Ne. on 7-5-78, and I taped them with my NAK 550 in FOB, and followed them to their/my first Red Rocks shows. What a run! And now it is available in all its Plantagenet glory. I will always claim that Omaha show as mine. So that is my story, Jerry Garcia was totally gracious, engaging, enthusiastic, and kind to a deadhead who approached him at one moment in time. I know, I repeat myself, such is my lot in life at this juncture, but thought I would 'complete the circle' of this story. Anyway, sorry for the repeat, but 'looks like the old man is getting on'. Forgive me and give me a day and I will conjour up my account of my first show at the Des Moines fair ground in 1974 (which is more in line with this wonderful Northwest 73 & 74 offering). This era is when I first saw the Grateful Dead and was swept into an extraordinary adventure 'on the bus' and have been 'enjoying the ride'. "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it is what I know for sure, that ain't so". -Mark Twain
June 15, 2018 - 9:03am

#3669

tncorey

Joined:
November 13, 2016

Oroboros Winterland 77

New story to me...and much appreciated!
June 15, 2018 - 8:43am

#3670

80sfan

Joined:
April 17, 2015

89 recommendation

Fall tour is well documented with the Hampton shows, the Nightfall of Diamonds meadowlands show and the Miami 30 trips release...but the Spectrum run (10/18-10/20) is really excellent. 10/19 is one of my favorite shows of all time. Reach out if you'd like a copy...

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

agree with WilfredT - listening on headphones rock!

I agree that listening to this release on headphones is a joy. The nuance in sound is amazing, I got used to the louder drum kit and yes who ever mentioned this was a philfest, I agree. Have not had a chance to crank it on the big boy stereo yet,

Johnny B. Goode

disc skips 6.26.73 damn it. That sunshine Daydream Sugar Mag was rockin just a few minutes ago !!!!

I gotta make that dreaded call to customers services line. F%!Ck need replacement disc

On to the Wall of Sound shows finally ! Slowly marinating in this box set. The 1973 shows each had their own flavor and something to offer.

Box of Rain Bird Song

Looks Like Rain Box of Rain

Jack Straw Box of Rain

The next session begins with beat it on down the line. Dire Wolf ~ 5.17.74 ! Super treat !!!!!!

mbarilla

send me a PM with the details and I'll pass them to the Doc.

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Schwing

I was guessing either 10/18/72 Fox Theatre (an all timer!) or the Swing.. solely based on Lemieux's SiriusXM roll-out hype for Dave's Picks 28 when he eluded that #29 was one of the all time great shows and will likely be viewed as the best of the series so far.

But I was not the only one calling for the Swing, I think Keithfan was plugging it not too long ago among others.. It is an all-time great show and one of my favorites from all of 1977.

Some Rise, Some Fall, Some Climb. TERRAPIN!!!

Alright, goddammit. I'm back but only because this is one of my top three.

I'm not taking any credit, but I did enjoin a very polite refrain requesting 2/26/77 very, very recently. Right around the time they would have been making the final call. Bless 'em!

Deepest, sincerest "Thank you!!!" to Dave, Mac, and TPTB.

God Bless the GOGD!

Money Money

I consider myself an expert on the live performances of Money Money. I have listened to every version repeatedly. I am confident in saying the 5/19/74 Money Money is the greatest ever. At the very least it's in the top three.

Marvel

I've been marveling at the Grammy-worthy box packaging for weeks now, and have not had one spare minute to digest the music. I see some comments regarding the mix. I'll reach my own conclusions of course. I'm hoping it's not all that bad, just spotty like so many ancient tapes.

One Man!

Gathers what another man spills.
Good to see you, sir!

The mix is spotty, that is all. You will be blown away by the sound stage and presence of these Plangent-processed SBD tapes. Truly magnificent what has been done with these ancient dusty reels!!

Good

Glad to hear that Guss. Kinda weird navigating this new site. Where is my IN box?

Unkle Sam in re Garcia MIA

Hi Unkle, Thanks for your response! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who was having trouble hearing Garcia's guitar. There's been some more comments about this issue, and Marye even posted that Dr. Rhino's looking into it, so we''l see what happens. I agree that McIntosh is the way to go when listening to the Dead--especially since it's Owsley-approved, and Garcia always had the glow of blue meters in his rack until very late in his career. I like to think it gets you a little closer to the original sound. It sounds like you have a nice setup, too. Good ol'-fashioned, two-channel systems beat the hell out of a cell phone, crappy earbuds, and lossy mp3s.

MDJim in Re: Hi all. I don't want to be one of those...

Hi MDJim, Thanks for your response! I also thought that if I was getting sound at all, it had to be a problem with the mix. There have been some other recent posts that mention the same Garcia guitar issues, and Marye said that Dr. Rhino is looking into it, so we'll see what happens. While the Dead is truly a group effort whose sum is greater than its parts, and while Garcia was a reluctant leader, without his guitar at least a little bit out front driving and steering the band, some of the magic is inevitably lost.

Pacific NW 73-74 - Replacement disc

Please send me a replacement disc for disc 5 of the boxed set. Mine is defective during China Cat - Rider.

When I say defective, I'm not talking about the mix or missing vocals. The CD skips, gets hung up repeating, stops playing.

Mix

Yes, particularly earlier in the box, the 1973 shows are plagued in spots with strange mixing issues. Whatever is printed on the cd is not "defective," in the disc itself; they chose to burn these shows which undoubtedly had recording issues at the source - loose cable jack into the board/recorder, maybe someone inattentively bumping the faders up and down on the board... at one point, for a few seconds all you hear during one of the "Promised Lands," is Billy's drum track. The vocals and guitar fade in and out and some times the rhythm section is prominent, other times tinny. There is a there there, but I wouldn't allow it to detract from a great box. It's interesting to listen to it like that as much as it is annoying.

We are everywhere!

Klay Thompson set the record for most 3-pointers in a game tonight.

Post-game attire? Green sweatshirt with a tasteful Stealie! No doubt influenced by his previous coach, Luke Walton.

Represent!

Dr Rhino looking into it

What can be done? What will be done? Will they remaster the entire box? Will they send us an "update" that adds Jerry's contribution to the sound? I think not. Nice thought tho, but I highly doubt that anything will be done, take it as it is, or leave it if you dare. I will hold on with my final review until next year, if they haven't done anything by then, nothing will be done. Sad really, no more preorders for me on box sets, listen first, then purchase will be my new coda.

WRT Disc issues

if you have them, send me a PM with the details and I'll pass them to the Doc. Posting about it in the thread may be suboptimal as there are a lot of posts and it could get lost. Thanks.

Re: Unkle/Remix the Entire Box

Perhaps I am behind in reading all these posts.. but the mix issues on my CDs seem to match up with the mix issues on the soundboards in the Archive. This means either the problems with the mix exist on the source master reels or all these sound engineers are hitting off the same crack pipe (which I guess is a possibility albeit a slim one). So remixing the entire box would likely yield the same result, but at great expense and causing much confusion for all.

Just to make sure I was not seeing double (hey.. it happens), I took some time to compare the PNW box to my source soundboards that I pulled down from the archive long, long ago. The issues with the mix are consistent comparing one show to the next.

Is this another poke to make sure we have maintained our sense of humor? ….remixing the entire box seems a bit silly perhaps, but not very much fun.

Again, I could be missing something..

One thing comparing my recordings to these did yield.. the PNW box sounds better than what I pulled down. Even the 73 shows sound quite good to me and my system with and without headphones.

Mix issues

I totally understand there may be sound issues with recording sources that are 30-50 years old. Recently we've had the heavy 'reverb' on the GSTL from '77, the splice in Dave's 27, Eyes of the World, which seemed to enrage so many, and now the various issues with PNW. Bill and Donna are high in the mix at times and some say Jerry is too low.
My complaint is on disc 1 of Portland '74. From about halfway into Sugaree thru El Paso the vocals are practically inaudible. Like karaoke versions. Which admittedly is kinda fun in a weird sorta way. But c'mon.
Maybe there should be a page or paragraph or Something in the already included literature by the producer/engineer where they could address and acknowledge some of the issues with a particular release.

What's the old saying? "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining". And don't say nothing and pretend that everything is just exactlty perfect. By saying Nothing it only makes people wonder if it's only their disc/equipment/ears/delusion.

hate to complain but...

They should really put these chats right under the product page the way it was previously. There are now less and less posts cause it's simply a headache to find these threads. I think the community is thinning out because of this. Steve Hoffman Forums is a great alternative community for GD superfans who want to chat up these releases or anything else.

True

I think Reijo has a point.

Drifters, I see your point too. But I like that show and am still glad it got released. The China>Rider, WRS and Jam after Truckin' are very nice and I really like the young Peggy-O's which are somewhat special and rare. The fade is on the source recording so the choice is whether to release the show or not.. all the remastering in the world is not going to bring the vocals up in the mix.

Dicks Picks used to place a caveat emptor on the back of the jewel case regarding sonic anomalies and the ravages of time, etc. The other point to make about some of these box sets is the tendency to make something very good and slip in a show that might not have made it as a Dave's Picks. Sort of slip one in on is. I don't think this is the case for this box, but 30 Trips had a couple of these. For $30 a show, and being a bit of a completist myself I am ok with it.. but I see the other side of things. I am sympathetic but happy to see these old tapes get special treatment. I appreciate the efforts they went through making this sound as good as it can.. but that's just me. One opinion.

Love the latest Dave's Picks.. but a topic for another thread. Talk about exceeding expectations...

Thinning Community

I would agree with the points below, but it may also be the fact that there are multiple recent release threads - e.g. this PNW box thread, the DaP 28 thread and the DaP 2019 Subscription threads. Who knows, hopefully it will pick up again.

Re: Thinning Community

I see this too, but there is a silver lining.. I am seeing lots of new folks step up and post positive comments, reviews and keep the vibe alive. The yang is there too.. a bit of complaining and the blem CDs and manufacturing error rate provides more than a valid reason to complain. I would consider providing CDs that play a core competency.

Still we get some good with the bad and new inputs and perspective is a good thing. I hope we didn't lose more than we gained.. there are a few I have not seen in a while that consistently added to the mix.

MARYE - defective discs

Hey I just saw your message in thread, I think I got it all sorted out with email to customer service. They replied with replacement disc on the way.

I appreciate the speedy response and help.

Time to rock out !!!

Spinning some 1985 Grateful Dead

The Pacific Northwest ’73-’74 big box

My big beautiful insane Pacific Northwest box arrived on Thursday afternoon, September 13. I opened it up, examined it for damage or weirdness. I found lots of weirdness, but no damage at all. It was (and is) perfect, but I was busy so I put it away on my living room bookshelf. Yesterday, November 4, I took the box into my office and started ripping and listening to the CDs. This is astonishingly beautiful music. The playing is intense, inspired, and precise, and the clarity and detail of the recordings (as rendered here) are breathtaking. There are some flaws scattered about – dropouts and balance issues – but for me these flaws do not detract at all from the immensity of the greatness of this box of beauty. These are among the greatest Grateful Dead recordings I’ve ever heard (and I have 288 hours of Grateful Dead recordings ripped so far). So thank you for this fantastic effort. A lot of work and care went into this, obviously. Similar to some of the Mosaic boxes of classic jazz recordings, this one is for people who want to hear all of it, not just curated highlights.

I too have had 2 issues with…

I too have had 2 issues with this box set. 1 - my booklet had been bent during packing and I have 1 defective disc Disc 17 (disc 1 of 5/21/73 Seatle. Big scuff mark and skips on track 9 and fails to pick up on track 10 /11 / 12 after skipping.)

Got the standard response from Rhino - filled in the forms and nothing back from them yet. Both complaints now over 30 day s outstanding - any advice on how to proceed.

BTW -- a lot of fantastic music on this set -- but also a lot of recordng issues -- most of which have been already mentioned. This too is making me question whether to buy complete boxes in future ??

Tim and others with disc issues

if you're still having trouble, send me a PM and I'll pass it to the Doc.

Disc replacements

If you need replacements just reply to the email you received with your shipping tracking number.
Within a few hours you will get an automated response (from a robot) and within about 2 days you will get an email telling you that it will take at least 2 weeks due to the high volume of replacements that they have to send out.
That email comes from Eric, who may be a robot, I don’t know because I wasn’t able to see the results of his reCAPTCHA exam.

Speaking of which......

Replacement Discs

Just to give credit where credit is due, I had a defective disc in this PNW box and have received a replacement without any real hassle after contacting Dr. Rhino via email. If you got a defective disc, I can reassure you that they seem to be making it right. Had defective discs on DaP 28 as well and for that they emailed back an automated form to fill out after I sent Dr. Rhino my initial email. It took about a month for me to receive the PNW replacement disc.

This box is well worth any hassle of replacing defective discs, there is really not a weak show in the box from my point of view. Currently spinning the Portland '73 show and it really hits the spot for me.

Still waiting on replacement CDs

I have now purchased 2 box sets in hopes on having one be completed. I have been in contact with Doc Rhino and now with Daniel, been since September, now I'm told it could be another 2 to 4 weeks... One box is being returned and now I have to submit a form to replace 2 discs on the second box.
So not happy with all the hoops I have had to jump through.

MDJIM

Yes I am still waiting on replacements. Quite frankly, I needed a break for this hassle. I volunteer, with the rehab of injured Dolphins and have not had the time, due to a current visitor.
Maybe people are also strugglin' with new web site.

Hey Jay

Sorry you are having trouble.. nobody likes a hassle. Check your PM.

So Im finally getting around…

So Im finally getting around to listening to and burning these discs and have found at least one defective one. Disc 1 from 6/22/73 skips on jack straw...

Is Rhino issuing replacements for these?

If anyone is looking for…

If anyone is looking for this boxset, shoot me a PM. Mine is mint and I'm selling it for $125 plus shipping and insurance.

@ Glocke12

Hello Glocke12

In my box, disc 2 of 6/22/73 is defective. I wrote to Rhino on October 17th. I received an e-mail on November 8th informing me of the shipment of the replacement disk. Today, November 20, I still have not received it.

I am very disappointed.

Digital Issues

I purchased the digital download. After successfully solving an initial issue with the PITB download, I’m now noticing the complete loss of vocal tracks, specifically on Sugaree, Jack Straw and IMHBTR on 5/19. There could be others. Is this normal or a digital glitch?

Re: Sinc6

Hey Sincie.. you are not hallucinating, the vocal dropouts you mention exist on the source master reels.. there are a few more on the first couple songs of a few shows.

Since they exist on the source tapes, there is nothing the digital wizards can do to correct it, short of bringing Jerry back from the dead and have him do a few vocal overdubs.

Happy Thanksgiving all.. I'm thankful someone remember to hit the Record button all those years ago.

I think it was 80sfan that was hyping the China Riders on this box.. Just listened to the PNE 74 version. Wow, smokin'..

Defective disks

I raise enough ticket referring back to my 2 original tickets re defects and sorted within the week :)

Happy Thanksgiving

Enjoy the holiday, be kind.

Be Kind

One of my more liked bumper stickers back in the day, "At Least I'm Enjoying The Kind"

Yes.. be thankful, be grateful, be kind. Happy Thanksgiving all.

Pacific Northwest Box Set Disc flawed

Finally listening to 6/22/73 from the Northwest box set. Disc 2 has flaw. I notice there are other comments to the same. Is anyone getting replacement discs?? I remember back when that happened to a Dick’s Picks and a replacement disc was sent out without asking.

Replacement Discs

It took awhile, but I did get a replacement for a defective disc in this box. Probably worth giving the whole box a listen before contacting customer service or Dr. Rhino, as different people seemed to have different defective discs, and sometimes more than one.

This might be a dumb…

This might be a dumb question but do I get an actual box set by the artist even though I got the digital download?

Re: Physical Box

No, you just get the digital files when you get the download. No box..

The Box is Nice...

...but the '74 Eyes within are priceless.

Re: '74 Eyes

ahh, yes. 74 Eyes of the World are one of the first things that really got me hooked. It was an early boot I had (Louisville '74) and it has never gotten old.

I keep trying to move on from this box.. (ok, not trying all that hard to do this..), but the way my life is, I have all these little digital compartments to listen to music on. ..and they are all currently loaded with some portion of this box. So without thinking I the handy device I reached for (tonight) happened to have Portland loaded and I listened to the China Rider through WRS>Let It Grow.

Sometimes I think we live in the Garden of Eden.. what a great era, warts and all.

WRS

..really digging the Weather Report Suites too.. they were only around for something like 13 months.

Grateful

The enthusiasm you all have for this music is awesome. May you never lose it. I found an incredible 1976 box with 5 shows on 12 discs for a great price and the sound is excellent. I'm totally digging in.

Got my Rolling Stones tickets. Taking our sons, it will be their first concert. And Grandma is going, too, so there will be three generations there.

I would like it to be the Dead, as well, but the boys are always telling me to turn it off - that and jazz. Their little ears haven't quite gotten wrapped around it all yet, but, Jumpin' Jack Flash gets them going every time.

Hey, it could be worse. At least no one listens to rap in my house.

I've noticed that the first…

I've noticed that the first set of 5/19/74 Portland, that's disk 14 in the Pacific Northwest Box, has three or four songs in which it's very hard to hear the vocals, especially Jack Straw and the next three or four songs. Anybody else notice this? I've tested the disk on different devices so I don't think it's my devices that are causing the problem. Disk 15 is okay, so I think the problem is not with the original recording, it's with the mixing on Disk 14 ?????

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