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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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  • scott1129
    13 years 2 months ago
    EUROPE '72 or your roped in for 72
    Pissed or Blissed it's all the samethe music is what matters and this is some matter-rific music Very pleased so far with the sound of the discs. Now the other part We now understand why the music-only version is the same price. and as has been stated previously the advertised box was 60+ cds (over 70 hours of music) in a special box designed to look like a steamer trunk with a hard cover book a tour program and many other surprises that they had been unearthing in the research for this special box set. Tickets, show bills, local articles and reviews of the shows The photos are fantastic. but no road map no dvd no postcards buttons, no drawer in the trunk, I understand the digipaks as thats the RT format. but I guess we got spoiled with the Warlocks Box Now that was a great box. Still have to lay all the E'72 covers out. well back to the show only 68 to go The Sky Was Yellow And The Sun Was Blue People Stopping Strangers Just To Shake Their Hand.
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    borncrosseyed56
    13 years 2 months ago
    On September 3rd, 2011
    On September 3rd, 2011 kewe65 said: what's more important, celebrating the most recorded band in history or lamenting rhino's failures? I'd rather celebrate the most recorded band in history, and my favorite band, the Grateful Dead. I think Rhino did a decent job with this mega-box project, more than likely there were budget cuts in the project which resulted in not the heaviest paper stock being used for the sleeves to house the discs. But for $450, it is still a bargain, and I am grateful for that. I thank all who made this project happen and see the light of day. Thank you!
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    Arthur
    13 years 2 months ago
    still waiting - and worried...
    Today's my birthday, and I had hoped.. but all things come to those who wait. I'm envious of all of those of you who are already getting familiar with the music. I was at one of the 72 concerts (Bickershaw) so that's some consolation as I wait. I'm not concerned about the prospect of small numbers of goodies - after all, when I preordered the only option was the boxed set and the only reason for buying was the music. Mine's supposed to be personalised, so the numbering issue (and I agree it's a real one) doesn't affect me personally. But what does concern me - a lot - is the unbelievably inadequate customer service experience I've had. In late July i had several email interchanges about my need to change the cc I had used for the preauthorisation. I was told I would be emailed prior to the dispatch date and given the opportunity to change card if necessary. It never happened, and as this thread picked up this issue, I dug deep into the pockets to phone from the UK to make sure the change was recorded. I was assured by a very laid back guy that it had been and all would be well. It hadn't and it wasn't. I had an email on the 31st saying how the European deliveries were going to be handled, which was positive, and then a further email on the 1st saying that my card hadn't processed auccessfully. So another call from the UK - 16 minute wait on the supposedly dedicated international number before anyone answered. Again the rep was calm and positive, took the replacement number and said all would be well. But couldn't actually process the order, only saying that they would contact again if there was a problem. What do I have to do to get these guys to take my money? I really don't want to lose this at this stage....
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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but you're an idiot if you give in to these ebay scalpers. It's one thing to go on ebay for the Fillmore West '69 box set- since the music was only made officially available, otherwise, in a condensed form, but there has been no indication that the Europe 72 music-only edition will be limited. I'm sure I don't have to tell most of you that, just wanted to throw it out there. Come on everyone, let's use our heads.
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ALL, PLEASE see marye's message on page 105 IF you received an email confirming a reservation and it has not been honored. She is trying to help you.
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I have been reading this forum for three days and it seems that everone, including me have solutions for this problem. Many people are suggesting the cancellation of all pending orders and starting over. Is that really fair to people who got in on it when it was announced? You snooze you lose is the old saying and it certainly applies here. Having a lottery is completely ridiculous unless it is done at the beginning, not after some people got shut out and are whining about it. It was made clear that it was limited from the start and that some people would not be getting one. You should have reserved sooner. Sorry but that is how it is. Where they really screwed up is when they allowed people to reserve more than one copy or order more than they reserved. To be fair, second copies should be music only copies. I still dont understand why it was limited to begin with. They should never do that again and I don't blame the people who are jumping off the bus at this point. This was handled very poorly and they should make more boxes to make this right for all the fans who have supported them throughout the years. What would be the big deal if they did? Plus it would screw the ebay scum. That would be the best part.
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I was just about to write: "I say, 'Go the ebay scum - isn't that the sort of free-wheeling capitalist spirit that made this country great?'" But then I remembered I'm a New Zealander living in Australia ...
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That is simply unaustralian!
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Is a saint in all of this. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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"wdovan et al On January 25th, 2011 marye said: who got confirmation letters for reservations and then were told they didn't have reservations, PLEASE send me a PM with the emails you got. We're trying to straighten this out. Thank you."
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I certainly hope this fiasco is not going to stop them from releasing more box sets in the future. I love them.
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Just looking thru all the comments here, someone* has put all the songs played and number of times. I noticed that Mr. Charlie & Playing In The Band appear 22 time each, that is every show.Perhaps the full name of this mega-box should be, "Playing In The Band: Europe '72 - The Complete Recordings " Because Mr. Charlie just doesn't make too much sense. Is it September yet?
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....one of the silver linings for me in the extreme disappointment was being able to connect with others having the same problems without lashing out or descending into negativity. After accepting my lot, I come back to find the tone has changed dramatically. I still can't get a response for even the music-only set, despite multiple attempts to reserve, yet I won't participate in what is happening here. Hope to come back in Sept and have some positive, upbeat discussions about how great the music is. BTW, a few years back the Traveling Wilburys released a "limited edition" box set. For legal reasons, they could not produce more of the same set when it sold out, so they released the exact same thing with a blue case instead of a white one. Just sayin. :)
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I tried to order one set on Thursday. Did not happen, could not get through. I have tried to reserve one set about twenty times, starting on Friday, about 4 times a day, using two different addresses. I NEVER received a reply within 24 or 48 hours. Although I'm sad, I've resigned myself to teh fact that I will not get the box set. Obviously, I want all the music. It may be unlimited (for now?), but since there's still an option to make a reservation, I would like to see my reservation get through...
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On January 25th, 2011 kennyw said: "But then I remembered I'm a New Zealander living in Australia ..." Happy Australia Day kennyw!! Later on I'm going to take my little flag out onto the street and wave it aroound in celebration. Wave that flag, wave it wide and high. Then I might come indoors and sit down to watch my pirated copy of Sunshine Daydream.
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I submitted my email address on the 19th and twice on the 20th and I have never received a thing. I wonder if all the orders received with billing information were processed prior to people who submitted their email addresses even if they were received afterward. The order page was up initially and after it crashed it was replaced with a page collecting email addresses, then the order page was back up, then the email address page was up again. Were these honored via timestamp? or were all orders with credit card information processed first...
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I check Dead.net every day. I must have looked too late on Thursday because I didn't see this offer until Friday when the cart had already crashed. I was able to enter my email address to let me know when I could order. Instead, I got an email to take a reservation (still ealry on Friday). I entered the information, including full name for personalization. Later (Friday evening) I got a confirmation for my request for (1) set, and it said I would soon get another email with next steps to place my order . I have never recieved anything since then. Nothing. Nada. I have sent numerous emails to drrhino@rhino.com, and made numerous calls to customer service. No one can tell me anything. So frustrated with this this whole thing. The whole limited edition thing leaves a very very bad tase, even if everything hadn't gone totally fubar.
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I get your point dude, but the fact is, many people like me were on the site immediately after the announcement but the servers (or whatever) couldn't handle the traffic. I kept getting error msgs and the note from Dead.net said try again they are working on it. Well, I tried for hours and couldn't get in. Then I was away over the weekend and couldn't try again until Monday and the game was over. Just sayin that snooze and lose make sense for those that DID snooze, but many of us were shut out in spite of our attempts.
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Correction. In my last post I stated that I set my first request on Friday. It was Thursday, the 20th. I got the confirmation on Friday the 21st. I can't believe that 7,200 sold out before I got my confirmation on Friday, let alone before I placed the 'request' on Thursday.
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I have withheld the name of that someone* out of respect for the poster. Please go back and look for yourself. Is it September yet?
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I don't consider myself one of the 'snoozers' at all. Evidently, the offer went up on Wednesday (not early), and I my request in early Thursday, with a confirmation on Friday. Trying to keep up a good attitude about this.
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i check this site about every 2 hrs and thats when there are no box sets out...if they cancel all orders and I dont get one I would be thoroughly pissed as this is probably the one thing I was finally in the right place at the right time for and then people who complained made me lose out...F#ck over of a lifetime...serendipity and synchronocity...
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Get this -- I placed my reservation on Friday afternoon and had heard absolutely nothing from Dead.net -- until two minutes ago, where my reservation for a personalized copy was confirmed. Go figure. Now, I guess it's just a question of whether the reservation will be honored. In the meantime, the many other people who were in the same boat as me should chill a little & check their email!!
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"wdovan et al On January 25th, 2011 marye said: who got confirmation letters for reservations and then were told they didn't have reservations, PLEASE send me a PM with the emails you got. We're trying to straighten this out. Thank you." This is from a moderator here, folks. She's trying to help.
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SORRY TO YELL -- BUT AGAIN, I JUST RECEIVED MY FIRST COMMUNICATION EVER ABOUT THIS FROM DEAD.NET, AND IT WAS TO CONFIRM THE RESERVATION I MADE ON FRIDAY. SO, TRY TO BE PATIENT FOLKS!
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...a big thank you for Marye is in order for keeping this bus on the road. I have no idea where we would be without you :) You are always looking our for us. I think by the time this is all said and done, there will be more than 7,200 sets shipped. All the confirmed orders will obvioulsy be honored. I also think anyone with a valid code will get his/her set. Since you can order multiple sets, that 7,200 is now a baseline. I can't wait until September when this becomes "what do you mean my set won't ship because my debit card does not have the funds? what do you mean my credit card is maxed out?" This is one circus I won't miss! I think a listening party is in order here in PA once the set arrives. A different show every week for 22 weeks. That will take us to spring. Not a bad way to spend quality time with fellow heads :)
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I just got my code to order my copy, and it even asked for personalization information. It took my card info, and send a confirmation email. I don't know if it just took real real long, or if it is due to my emails to CS and drrhino, or all my calls that finally got me the code email. I almost feel guilty now for getting one. I hope this works out, and I hope that in the future they will never do another limited edition thing again. There is no reason, except to do "I got one and you didnt!!!". What else is the point of a limited edition. If the reason is because they include actual memorabilia that has a limited quantity, I think they should not bother with that, or sell them completely separately from music releases. If we all ask them for NO MORE LIMITED EDITIONS maybe they will listen. I gotta think that about 99% of deadheads would agree this (?????????) as opposed to things like the Whole Show versus Cherry Picked road trips debates. The only reason to want a limited edition is so that you can have something that someone else doesn't. WTF? Hoping that this somehow works out for everybody.
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Just got my code after waiting since friday. Looks like theyre are trying to get it "Just Exactly Perfect" Be patient. Things seem to be moving forward. JonP
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to see people are starting to get emails and getting their copy of this. I agree with the previous poster that 99% of all heads would not want anyone to miss out. We share this wonderful bond with each other that outsiders don't understand. Its called the Grateful Dead and I am proud to be a part of this community. I don't care if my boz is number one or number10000000. I just want everone who wants one to get one and Im sure the band would as well. Yay. I feel that the mood is about to swing
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Well I also just finally got my code and was successfully able to order one copy. I reserved Friday night immediately after the E-Mail came in and then again Sat morning (after the server problem annoucement). Also, the E-Mail containing my code said that if I ordered more than my allotment (which was one) the additional copies would be deleted. This is good news for those waiting still. They probably need time to sort all this out. Thanks to MaryE for taking the time to try to help and listen to the posts. Thanks
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Last Friday a few moments after receiving the Dead.net announcement about the box in my Inbox, I want to the website to reserve a "personalized" copy. Like a few others here, I only just received an email a few moments ago confirming ... something. Here's the text (minus the juicy bits): ------------------------------------ Because you have reserved 1 copy (copies), you can now order Europe '72: The Complete Recordings! Please follow the instructions below to access your exclusive order page. To place your order: 1) Click on this URL http://store.dead.net/content/e72-personalization-page You will be taken to your order page. 2) Enter this exclusive CODE: [deleted] 2) Go through check-out process In fairness to your fellow Dead Heads, we cannot accept orders for additional copies in excess of the number you previously reserved. Any copies in excess of what you have already reserved will be deleted from your order. ------------------------------ I completed the order form (which included no info about personalization options). Question: what the heck did I just buy? A personalized box (with a request for more info to follow), a numbered 3000-7200 box, or 60 CDs without a box? Thanks for any insights. Sincerely, A Lost Kid Named Frank
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How about THIS for an idea, to compensate the "Music Only" orders: THEY should receive a "bonus show" CD set of the April 4, 1972 Winterland show, not available to box set buyers or to anyone who orders the "Music Only" set after February 28, 2011. This would be a logical add-on, since that show was the last one before the band headed out to Europe, with the first Europe show taking place a mere 3 days later. This would also have the added impact of lowering the resale value of the boxed sets and really pissing off the resellers. Nah. Never happen.
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Maybe one will come my way.
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From a purely business aspect, I understand making limited editions of products because this generates sales 1000X faster than just releasing a product. I'm positive that if TPTB had NOT announced that this was limited to 7200 boxes, thay NEVER would have sold that amount in the time period they did, the initial sales of this would have been very low and would have taken MUCH longer to realize 7200 units sold. How many would have purchased this within the 1st week of sale if this was not limited? I know I would have waited until I could have gotten this cheaper elsewhere or much later when I had the money to burn.
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Well, I'll be darned. I had attempted to reserve one box set on Friday night and again on Saturday afternoon, but heard nothing until a few minutes ago. After I had given up hope and resigned myself to the fact that I would not get a box set, an email pops up from Dead.net, and it is apparently for a personalized box at that. Here is the body of the email: * * * * Because you have reserved 1 copy (copies), you can now order Europe '72: The Complete Recordings! Please follow the instructions below to access your exclusive order page. To place your order: 1) Click on this URL [redacted] You will be taken to your order page. 2) Enter this exclusive CODE: [redacted] 2) Go through check-out process In fairness to your fellow Dead Heads, we cannot accept orders for additional copies in excess of the number you previously reserved. Any copies in excess of what you have already reserved will be deleted from your order. Please note that this code will only work one-time. Once you enter your code you must complete your order or you will lose your reservation. If you do not redeem your code by 11:59 p.m. PST on 2/5/11, you will also lose your reservation. Europe '72: The Complete Recordings ships this September. * * * * It is always darkest before the dawn. So, if you are still waiting for an email, do not give up hope.
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boxes will be #'d yeah (I think) I got mine but it is awesome they can sell something like this for the price it is way cool that you can still get 'the music' less the extras for the same price I guarantee that acquiring each (official) show separately will set you back more than the $21 per. If you got the box - congratulations otherwise be content that you can still get the 22 shows less the fancy book and chest. If Rhino wanted to be greedy - I think they would have done it in a reverse fashion sell these shows at $25-$30 each then offer the bundle at a discounted price then come up with a boxed set with all the bells and whistles. -zep.
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Same boat. What did I just buy? [Either way is ok, but my faith in miracles will be confirmed if this was indeed my code from my Friday reservation for the full box].
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Wish there'd been a tape recorder running at all the meetings that must have been going on in Deadopolis and the Rhinoverse these last several days. Now there's a bonus disc! Good job with the ongoing "save". Now knock about a hundred bucks off the "music only" option and you'll gain even more forgiveness and probably move more units next Christmas. You know you'll still be making a decent return ;)
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btw is Betty Cantor-Jackson receiving any royalties for her role in setting up for and arranging the 16-track tapes this series depends on? As is known, she was not treated graciously in the 80's and was refused payment for her work on Reckonings and other outlays, losing her house and the famous Betty Boards in the process. If she hasn't received some special financial thanks for her work that has already given us not only Europe 72 but 100 Year Hall and Rocking the Rhine she will get some monetary recognition from this series, not to take anything away from the post-recording labors of the production staff.
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i let a person take my personal code and use it to by themselves the box set. after that they ordered and shipped to me dp 4 ; dp 36 and the fillmore 69 3 cd box set....ha!
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How About 2 versions of the box set in all its glory (the music only one at the same price just doesn't cut it for me). Bozos and the Bolos. You could do 7200 of each. Just a thought, i don't think any one would complain about that.
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A little history On January 25th, 2011 dstache said: If you are interested in a good laugh, here is a post from Blair Jackson from Jan 19 (see page 10) re: someone's concern that this would sell out before they were able to replace their missing credit card (or something like that): "Don't worry... On January 19th, 2011 blairj said: ... It's not going to sell-out in ten days. Sorry about your experience, ironman, but I think you'll be OK.... Honest... Now, everyone take a deep breath..... innnnnnnnnn..... ouuuuuuuuut! Good. All will be resolved in due time." Yeah, so that was Blair Jackson replying to my email. I found out about the Europe 72 release just minutes after getting my Visa card cancelled by my bank because a couple of fraudulent transactions had been charged to it that very morning. The fact that the web site crashed and the whole ordering process was suspended in favour of the email reservation system was an absolute godsend to me. I received the reservation email and then, in due course, my unique code. A replacement Visa card arrived in the mail on Monday (we have an incredibly efficient banking system in Australia!) and I successfully placed my order that evening. By then I didn't even blink at the $85 shipping charge. So, all in all, I count myself lucky. I was momentarily reassured by Blair's email at the time but also very mindful that the way that the Fillmore set had sold out leaving so many unfulfilled orders and so many bitterly disappointed Deadheads meant that not too many would be procrastinating about this one in the same way that they might have with the Fillmore box (which, from memory, took at least 3 weeks to sell out). For a bunch of supposedly mellowed out laid back hippies, these guys sure know how to generate a whole world of stress. 10,000 copies of Fillmore was nowhere near enough. I thought that there was an acknowledgement of that at the time and an indication that next time they'd be better prepared for demand. But no, they produce even fewer copies. Man, I'm a CPA and I can understand why you would specify a minimum order number to get this thing off the ground but I think it's totally nuts to stick to an arbitrary maximum when you have so grossly underestimated demand and are still in pre-production phase. I would have thought that going into production with a known and guaranteed sales figure and without having to carry surplus stock at the end of it would be a manufacturers dream. I want my copy of this and, so long as I have a copy, I couldn't care less how many other people have it. I don't see how people can get off on fetishing over the "exclusivity" of having this. At the end of the day 7200 ain't THAT exclusive, so does it really matter if it's 7200 or 72,000. Hey, even if there were 72,000 copies of this out there, I could almost guarantee that I would be the only kid on my particular block that had one and no one else on my block would even give a rats arse and, I'm only too sure that my wife (in whose opinion I don't need another single CD yet alone another 60 Grateful Dead CDs) would rather I just shove it up my own. Happy Australia Day to all my fellow Deadheads Downunder All 72 of us!
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my comment is: $450 IS TOO MUCH FREAKIN' MONEY. HOLY SHEESH. R U NUTZ? Release the shows piecemeal for those of us who have kids to put through college. In this day and age you can get CDs of shows right after they are played. certainly you can take orders for individual shows, or groups of shows, or whatever. Whether I like it or not, I am "Grateful For Life". I am not grateful enough to spend $450 on a release, though. $450 is 18 Road Trips. I'll give you $40 for 5/11/72!!!!!!!!!!
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After placing my reservation for the complete recordings Friday night I too, just got my first email response. Like y'alls, it says ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let_It_Grow, Because you have reserved 1 copy (copies), you can now order Europe '72: The Complete Recordings! Please follow the instructions below to access your exclusive order page. To place your order: 1) Click on this URL http://store.dead.net/content/e72-personalization-page You will be taken to your order page. 2) Enter this exclusive CODE: DELETED 2) Go through check-out process In fairness to your fellow Dead Heads, we cannot accept orders for additional copies in excess of the number you previously reserved. Any copies in excess of what you have already reserved will be deleted from your order. Please note that this code will only work one-time. Once you enter your code you must complete your order or you will lose your reservation. If you do not redeem your code by 11:59 p.m. PST on 2/5/11, you will also lose your reservation. Europe '72: The Complete Recordings ships this September. If you have any other questions or need assistance with your order, please contact us: 1-800-CAL-DEAD (800-225-3323) Or 410-568-3715 (8am to 8pm ET - Mon thru Sun...excluding US holidays) Or email us at: Customerservice@dead.net Thank you for your patience. The Dead.Net Team Privacy Policy Unsubscribe Dead.net 3400 West Olive Ave. Burbank CA 91505 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hopefully this is the complete recordings and not just the music only edition. Is there any way to verify which version this is for?
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I have made 3 requests since I got the email ... and still NO response at all! Why?
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Wow, you're the best marye! Just got the e-mail with my code, followed the instructions and now I have a order number! I hope all of you who are still waiting will get it too. Thanks again marye!
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ironman88 said: "Hey, even if there were 72,000 copies of this out there, I could almost guarantee that I would be the only kid on my particular block that had one." Strewth, mate, I thought Balwyn was crawling with hippies and DeadHeads, all with personal hygiene issues. Who, then, hangs out at your local bong shop?
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Mine started out, Dear Dead Head, Because you have reserved a copy (copies), you can now order your personalized edition(s) of Europe ’72: The Complete Recordings! Not sure how it worked out; I too was at first unable to place an order, and later entered my e-mail for notification. Got the e-mail Sunday late afternoon PST and placed my order within a half hour, got the confirmation within the hour. Just ordered one, for myself -- I too was pretty shocked by the ebay asking prices (all "Buy It Now", and the couple I looked at wanted the money in front!), hope the would-be buyers in that realm don't get burned . . .
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On January 25th, 2011 kennyw said: "Strewth, mate, I thought Balwyn was crawling with hippies and DeadHeads, all with personal hygiene issues. " Quite possibly, but I'm in Balwyn North don't you know. It's a whole suburb away.
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I've been reading this forum for several days and it certainly convinces me the dead scene of old is lost and gone forever.I remember a time when just mentioning selling tapes was greeted with serious condemnation...it just wasn't done and now we have this...............? I miss the days of trading tapes and sometimes actually having to wait to get that hot copy of whatever show. Checkin the mail to see if your kind trader friend had come thru yet. I still have a tape deck in my system and it seems that when I do throw on an old tape its always a cosmic listening session. Its almost too easy to get the music these days,but like Jerry use to say "when we're done with it,its theirs" I'm just not sure who "they" are anymore. I hope everyone is happy come September. Peace!
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Dilbert asks "How many would have purchased this within the 1st week of sale if this was not limited?" The minor debacle created by Those In Charge was not necessarily an issue of "limited" versus "not limited". Nearly all reasonable people understand that "limited offers" require diligent action, lest one be caught empty-handed. What has created so much angst is that the offer in question was "absurdly limited". It's very likely that Those In Charge underestimated the number of people who would be interested in this box but I don't believe it is at all unfair to question the reasonableness of their judgment in that regard. And in general I believe that selling music like this as a "mail order only" item is ridiculous. There are a lot of people who would be extremely interested in this or many of the other "limited" releases that do not have the time to check their email every ten hours or, in the case of the exclusive discs offered to "subscribers", do not have the money to purchase all the releases they have no interest in. In short, "from a purely business standpoint," I believe this project could have been made available to thousands of more people (tens of thousands is more like it) without alienating fans and/or potential customers and without instantly creating the ill skumBay aftermarket (premarket in this case!). There would be no loss of money and, if information about the "exclusive" sale was properly disseminated, as much or more personal information from new registrants could be collected as was collected using the most recently effected "strategy". In addition, by allowing the set to be sold in local and/or privately-owned record stores, the Dead could be doing their own little bit to prevent such places from going out of business. Forgive me: I'm thinking like a dirty fxcking hippie again.
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I think it really shows the value of the archived recordings if so many people are willing to spend so much money on a box set of music that already exists. This is a goldmine! All that needs doing is remixing and packaging. The hardest part is already done! The fact that the band recorded everything is really unique and special and I wonder if they ever thought the recordings would be so valuable back in the 60s or 70s or even 80s. They probably used the recordings to get better musically but in the 80s and 90s I don't know. Maybe just force of habit. A whole bunch of wages/salaries can come from these recordings, a legacy to the families of the band. It is still amazing to me that so many people would buy these releases when the music is already out there unless its an investment to sell later.