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    Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

    This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

    During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

    This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • simonrob
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    When something is wrong...

    The recent epidemic of malfunctioning discs should not be ignored or dismissed with comments like "It will all come good in the end." It should not have gone so badly wrong in the first place and Rhino should be left in no doubt that their market finds this unacceptable.

    Whether or not it has anything to do with cost cutting is something Rhino is unlikely to divulge. That the discs are noticeably thinner and more flexible than the norm and that they are made in Mexico may or may not contribute to the problem, but most sentient beings could put 2 and 2 together and get 4 as the answer.

    To dismiss complaining about this situation as endless whining seems so absurd that it seems aimed purely at provoking a reaction. I hesitate to use the "T-word" but how else should it be described.

    My message to Rhino is: Give us quality products for our money. Surely this is not too much to ask?. What may be too much to ask is for the elusive Dr. Rhino to post an explanation of what has gone amiss recently, but it would be a nice gesture to those having so much trouble trying to resolve issues that they have with recent releases that came to a head with Dave's Picks Volume 28.

  • daverock
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    In praise of speaking out

    As I understand it, the people who speak out against receiving a poor quality service make more of a positive contribution to the culture surrounding the product in question than those who don't. Surely, if a profit making organisation can make more profit by cutting costs, they will do so. If, in cutting costs, the quality of the product deteriorates, then it is up to everyone who purchases that product to point out what has happened, with a view to rectifying the situation. If they care about what they are buying, that is.
    Hopefully we have got way past the point where we are mere passive recipients.

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    Happy Day After New Year everyone!!....

    .... sorry I'm late, but to say I tied one on New Year's Eve would be an understatement. Didn't wake up until noon yesterday, and no, I didn't wake up to find out that I was the eyes of the world. I woke up looking for my Excedrin. Here's to a grate 2019 for everyone! Dave's Picks so far sure don't hurt very long..... shameless plug into this!!....
    https://youtu.be/r0oY7OEg4Ik
    ....the chills start at the 15:00 mark. The chills peak at 16:45. There's an I Know You Rider in there trying to escape. Sploooooosh....then it gets really dark, and really weird. I couldn't have asked for anything more.

  • DeadVikes
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    Where's Bolo?

    Have not seen a post from Bolo in a long time. Maybe concides with this release and the defective CDs?

  • Trainwrecked
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    It's your incessant complaining Sam

    Lol, no I don't work for Rhino. But that's telling, that you think a rhino employee would talk to a customer like that. It just shows how out of touch you are, and belligerent toward the system. The reason I posted my comment is because you are a drag. If it were one time that would be one thing, but you complain about everything, all the time, multiple times. That's reason number one that I posted. You are a buzz kill.

    Reason number two is that I don't want you to f*** it up for those of us who don't think that the occasional exchanging of discs is worth sandbagging the organization that brings us all of this great music. It has never taken me more than an email thread to resolve a product defect. I'm talking mere minutes. You on the other hand make it sound like they're pulling your fingernails out, repeatedly, about the same damn thing. I consider myself a stakeholder and you drive down the stock every time you shoot off your loud mouth. So no need to guess about my motives, you have them right here.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Caveat emptor

    Included on Dick’s Picks to let you know that they weren’t studio recordings and the tapes might not be in the best condition.
    Probably should have used it on the PNW Box to warn that Wall of Sound shows often start with fiddling of the controls to get it just exactly perfect. Seems that a lot of people think they have defective discs because the vocals drop out.

    Now disc skipping, that’s a legitimate defect.

    A new caveat emptor is now needed to warn that your CDs might contain skips.
    My replacements of DaP28 CD3 are supposedly in transit but, based on the post from Judysparty, I’m wondering about the quality of the redo. If it still skips on Let It Grow then that would suggest that the negative used for pressing is defective and wasn’t replaced.
    At this point I wonder if they even still physically stamp a blank, or if they just bought a couple hundred duplicators and now just burn discs.

    My past defects:
    5-5-77 CD2
    8-24-72 CD3

    Golden Road and Beyond Description Boxes (I didn’t try to get replacements):
    Skull Fuck, Dead Set, and another that I don’t remember at this moment.

    And a weird one with Road Trips v1n2+bonus where it plays fine on the stereo but has many skips when copied to a hard drive. I used two different computers and burners and both copies had skips and dropouts, but in different places. After making 5 copies I was able to piece together the good fragments and get a copy on my music player.

    Rockin’ the Rhein:
    CD3 was missing.

    Other people have reported other problems over the years that I never experienced. But, it seems that the frequency and overall number of defects is increasing.
    That’s not a good sign.

    I forgot who said it below, the box cutter blues may have been annoying, but at least the CDs were not defective.

  • unkle sam
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    I was acknowledging a previous post and I also have been buying literally hundreds of discs and I can only go by what has transpired in the past with what is transpiring now. So, you do what you want to, no one told you to do anything that you don't want to do. You go ahead and blindly purchase your product and I will wait till the reviews come in and we will see who is the happier for it. I guess you have all the time in the world to chase defective disc replacements, I do not. I agree with you that most problems are corrected and Marye is the best person for getting that done. I also agree that you have every right to disagree with what I said, but your tone is rather harsh, do you work for rhino? I know in the past there were no problems with disc, then, all of a sudden, there are, what would you contribute that to? I never mentioned Mexico or inflated costs so where that came from is anybody's guess, I did state that I missed the good old days when Grateful Dead products were made in the USA, yes, and that is true, I do miss those days, but don't try and put words into the conversation that I never said. Also, if you don't think that rhino is making a rather substantial profit from these sales, than you are delusional. Finally, I stated that I would gladly pay more for a quality product, so no one was bitching about the cost, again, you jumped to your own conclusion which is way off base and just, well, wrong. I stand by what I said and if you don't like it, oh well, some folks just can't connect the dots as you put it. I do know one thing, I don't care what you think about my outlook or my grasp of reality, which, by the way, is your opinion, which is wrong again. I don't follow the limited 2 per order comment, but you started to ramble then and the rest is gibberish. I can tell by your demeanor that something I said pissed you off, might it have been the wall/bridge comment? Anyway, something I said upset you and for that I say sorry, but I call them like I see them. 2019 is going to be a great year for me, and my outlook is nothing but positive, and based in a brighter reality than you seem to have and I will continue to speak my mind even if you try and tear me down, "bro"

  • Trainwrecked
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    Yawn, give it a rest Sam

    You assume too much. Like for example, how do you know that the problem stems from the discs being made in Mexico is the reason there is a problem? You don't know that making them in the USA will solve anything. And how do you know that the defective disc issue resulted from a move to increase profit at Rhino (and NOT a move to prevent cost increase to the buyer?)

    I've purchased literally hundreds, probably over a thousand Grateful Dead discs from Rhino at this point, and have had very few problems. The problems I have had in the past have been resolved by either Customer Support, marye, or Dr. Rhino.

    Go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face if you want, but I for one, recognize how fucking good we have it, to be able to purchase all of this music at normal prices. And the prices are normal, you just have to buy in bulk to make the system work. So don't bitch about their profit or what you're paying either.

    You see that sign that says "Limited 2 copies per order?" That's Rhino listening to the people, so get that straight in your head too bro.

    You'd be a much happier person with a more positive outlook, not to mention one that is better set in reality, because you do connect a lot of dots on assumption. Maybe 2019 will be a better one for you.

  • Strider 808808
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    January 2, 1970, Fillmore East was my first Grateful Dead concert. 49 years ago today. I remember it quite clearly. How much tickets cost ($4.50, $5.50), where our seats were, the light show, the opening bands, thus spake zarathustra, the scene on the street. "If I told you all that went down it would burn off both your ears". 12/31/81 was my first New Years Eve Dead concert. Wild times. Thank you Ken Kesey. As for the quote "If you remember the 60s you weren't there", is inaccurate and misleading. And I love Robin Williams and Grace Slick. As for defective discs, some of you remember the 1972 Rolling Stone interview with Jerry Garcia when he talked about defective Skull and Roses vinyl that skipped and how it pissed him off. The Dead have always stood for high quality. Get it together Rhino. Happy New Years.

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    Was my second NYE, the first one I had any idea what was going on (first show 12/31/80), and it was and is one of my all time favorites.
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Dave's Picks Volume 28: Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 6/17/76

This year's Dave's Picks series comes to a close just as the band's getting back together again in '76. By the time the Grateful Dead hit New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre - for the very first time - on 6/17/76, they were buzzing from their reunion, armed with new and revived material, the Rhythm Devils reformed with the mischievous Mickey Hart once again behind the kit. They'd skived off the unwieldy Wall of Sound and scaled back the venues from cavernous arenas to intimate theatres. Quite the treat!

During the first set, the Dead's playing was nuanced ("Cold Rain And Snow"), detailed ("Looks Like Rain"), and intricate ("The Music Never Stopped"); the singing struck softly ("Row Jimmy") and raised hairs ("Ship Of Fools"). But it’s the big barreling energy of the second set you’ll want to brace yourself for, replete with a disco'd "Dancing In The Streets," a low-down funky “Help”>”Slip”>”Franklin's” and a wind 'em up to wind down "Let It Grow">"Wharf Rat">"Around and Around." Can you keep up? There's only one way to find out.

This complete show, balanced out with a couple of bonus tracks from 6/23/76 and 6/28/76, was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Dave's Picks Volume 28 is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

Grab a copy before they're gone, gone, gone.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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....trade? Every concert is collectible to me. We agree to disagree. On the other foot, yes, I would most likely be more perturbed if every other release was shit. Just lucky I guess. Ever talk about the songs that don't skip though? (edit. I tried to make this post as least offensive as I could. Don't throw stuff at me.) That's sarcasm btw. Dirty word these days. Haha.

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yea I can talk about a good song...
but first, let's talk about that trade. It's got to be better than what dead.net C.S. has been offering me.
I know, you give me one good copy of Dave's Picks 28 (Disc-3).
and I'll give you the four bad copies dead.net gave me?
you get 4 and I get 1. you can't beat that deal dude! C'mon...

oh, and that good song...
have you ever heard the I-95 Song by the Good Brothers?
you'll be playing that one over and over again to go to sleep to. you'll love it.
get the download!

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The discussion around defective disc situation certainly got people posting again, so it can be considered a positive result. Whether or not it bears fruit with Rhino only time will tell.

The discussion seems broadly to have placed people in one of two camps, namely:

Those who have experienced no problems. Many (but certainly not all) of these folks don't want to see this aired here and do not seem to comprehend the anguish and frustration that victims feel.

and :

Those who have experienced problems and are still seeking resolution and do not know where to turn, having exhausted all the normal avenues to no avail. For them this must be a horrible situation.

Personally, thankfully, I have not experienced any problems for many years but I can sympathize with those who have.

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Just a few more short weeks until that beautiful show from the Swing arrives. There aren't really any other 1977 shows did I'm interested in at this point, but this one is a true gem. This may be the best Slipknot they ever did. Jerry comes through loud and proud and it's a long one. On the soundboard that I have, there is a little bit of an audio glitch on the first chord of Help on the Way. I wonder if this is a tape flutter or if Jerry actually hit the cord badly. Either way I think they could fix this pretty easily in production if they wanted to. We will see.

It may be a little cliche to recommend Europe 72 show, but I will say there is a nugget of a Playing in the Band on the May 16th show that they played on the radio. They are all great from this tour, but Jerry has a little extra flash on this one.

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If it ain't got the Swing..

Always one of my favorites. I played 77 to death years ago.. especially when I first got turned on to Archive.org, so I don't reach for this year that often. Plus.. a lot has been released. But the Swing is indeed a special show.

As for 1972 PITB's.. do they ever get old? Since September 2011 when the E72 box put a dent on my front porch, shows from this tour have been in pretty much constant rotation. I will have to give Radio Luxembourg a revisit. I have to say 1972 is my favorite year for this song.. it's wild yet contained and bursting with a psychedelic electric punch that delivers. ..but I like Playing's from just about any year. It's one of those songs where the more I listen to it, the more I like it regardless of the year.

Oh.. not sure if your username has any relation to trains (guessing it does).. but I am a big train lover and that period of American history (world history really). There's lots of rivers in the mountains here with tracks on one or both banks, many have been converted to rails to trails so they make for convenient spot to get some exercise and have some fun. I kayak a lot, always with music playing and I can't tell you how many times Big RR Blues comes on when I am within sight of a Railroad bridge. Big train fan and friend of just about any train song.

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I just love my skipping discs, can't wait to get another one. How can one persons opinion bring down a corporation like rhino? These tapes that they have been entrusted with are a cash cow for them, why would they put them on a poorly made disc? Why would they want to kill their cash cow? Hey, sorry dude, I just want what I paid for. From now on, I will keep my opinion nice a friendly for all and any who find me a buzzkill, even if it is not how I really feel and is plastic and fake. So, in the future, after this post, anything I say you should think the exact opposite. Thanks for pointing it out to me. Happy new year everyone, I am looking forward to Dave's 30.

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...is when people bitch and moan about other people bitching and moaning. It seems somehow illustrative of the human condition.

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It just took a little controversy to get the site participation up again :-D

Happy New Year all.

Jimbo, I'm on board with '72 / Playing. '73 & '74 very strong, but I enjoy the way they rock out on it in '72. Focussed and powerful. I hope we get a 2nd half 1972 box set with 20 shows this year. I shit you all not, I am ready.

I'm also on board with this pending Swing Auditorium show. Killer Slipknot! indeed. Trainwrecked and Jim, you guys both summed up my present disposition with Dead '77. I also love the Eyes of the World ending from Phil. It will be interesting to see how many non-subscription copies will go up for sale.

The 2/2/70 show from DaP 6 has always rung my bell. I got a full listen in today. Good Lovin' stood out this time around - not too long, great vocals, etc. Fantastic Dark Star, rarely cited among the best, but one of my favorites.

I used to smoke a potent weed called Trainwreck with my poker buddies. We would frequently call ourselves "Trainwrecked". Of course you might just like trains......

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Defective discs aside, I have had a few, not much fun. Not a good situation for anybody.

Ran some errands with my 9 year old tonight and was listening to Dick's 15. I don't put the dead on too much in the car, but most days can't listen to the radio for too long. I guess my listening is starting to rub off as I heard my daughter singing I had to move really had to move and that asked what is the name of this song again? Love it!

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... on best ever Cosmic Charlie :(

How about Ten. Jed? I'm voting 5/18/72.... just the last one I heard (WHAT A GREAT SHOW!)

Anyway, I think you all have a lot of issues with Rhino, Dead.net, the new color of the site, your parents... It's too bad you can't have a good time too. For me, I'm going to keep playing Dead, checking this site for updates, and overall being ignored.

Swing, baby, swing!

Peace

(This 5/18 Munich show! Top 5 of the E72 tour?)

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My poor almost 9 year old daughter gets no relief from the GOGD in the car (and in the house).....my hopes are that I impart a little bit a music, a little bit a life, and a whole lot of her dad, and what he holds true...

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I listened to the first two cds of 1/22/78, Daves Picks 23 this morning.And I thought I would post to highlight the superb Tennessee Jed in the first set. Just checked the previous posts and noticed you had drawn attention to this song also, from Munich 1972. Almost every song played on the Europe 72 tour was definitive in one show or the other-but this Ten Jed from 1978 is razor sharp.

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Otis, my man!

The Munich Invasion - definitely in my top five Europe 72 list. The guitars sound extra crunchy to me. It was, I believe only the 2nd Jack Straw where Garcia sings the Watchman verse, except Weir forgets this and starts singing it with him for a moment. For some reason this always amuses me. This show also has one of only four Morning Dews from the tour, and IMHO the 2nd best Sugar Magnolia (the best being 4/24, Rockin' the Rhein :-D). And of course... Dark Star. I don't recall the Tennessee Jed too well, so I am going to check that out right now. And then I'm going to listen to the one on Close Encounters with the Grateful Dead - because Daverock is not to be taken lightly.

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Just started listening again. Greatest Story, China Cat>I Know You Rider, Dark Star>Eyes of the World... Favorite show to listen to when I am on a plane!!! I miss the days of bonus disks from ordering early!! 46 minute Dark Star just pure Dead..... Turn your bass down at the end of I Know You Rider, Phil is just killing it!! This was the bonus disc for the Denver 11/20/21/73 shows!!!!! Did i mention 46 minute Dark Star... enjoy your weekend... bob t

Yea.. 12/6, Rockin' the Reign and WOS are my favorite bonus discs. Holy Smoldering Solar Systems Batman.. Those weren't portabella mushrooms in the pasta were they?

I think 12/4/73 was the bonus disc for Winterland 73, but it pales in comparison to 12/6. Holy cow..

Just listened to T Jed from '72 Munich and '78 Eugene, both ripping!

Hunkering into the Row Jimmy at the moment.

My suite mate sophomore year in college was a metal head and after casually listening to Europe '72 a few times with him, it was that version (Olympia) that finally brought the light to his eyes. We wore the 'repeat' button down long after midnight.....

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Sent funds to pre-order the DeadHead stories book. Perhaps my favorite part of this site other than the musical recommendations are the occasional stories from DeadLand. The Winterland Oroboros story told by Oroboros is probably my favorite so far. Really looking forward to digging into this, and glad all of the regulars seem to be straggling back here!

https://deadheadstories.org

... that is certainly one hell of a fine Tenn. Jed! Perhaps even better than the Munich one I posted about earlier! (Though to be fair, in the words of MDJimbo, DaP23 is the last one I listened to...)

Have a great Sunday!

Peace

Munich 72 is primo!!! Love it from start to finish, theirs not really anything or anybody dragging this performance for taste. 😎😊
“Many of the early shows on this long tour are often under appreciated in comparison to more readily available and circulated shows. This show is a perfect example of that quandary as this, and numerous others from 1972, are often neglected due poor sound quality of circulated recordings. Sadly this case for this Munich show as only two poor sound quality audience tapes are all that is on the Archive.

On paper looks this looks very similar to many other sets from this tour, but honestly how many tours did they play Dark Star ten times anyways?

This being number eight on this tour is on that stellar level that us DS aficionados expect but I am getting ahead of myself here.

This show is all about the esemeble lead equally by both Jerry and Pig Pen from start to finish.

Set I starts off back in 1971 with a wicked tight Truckin' that has the band finding that groove from the first note. Pig Pen is right there on the organ and continues there the entire show., perfectly accent and widening the new sound the band was embracing with Keith.

Sugaree is text book perfect, western swing and poetic. Then Pig Pen takes center stage and delivers a excellent Mr. Charlie, the only real clear statement the band ever made about the Vietnam war. Next we get the a couple of new standards still in their infancy but played to perfection.

Pig is ready for more and sings a energetic Chinatown Shuffle that once again shows how much he brought the best out of this band.

Bobby deals a majestic BT Wind and then we get an fully developed China>Rider that is full of all the fire and brimstone that made this a staple of so many great Dead shows. Jerry's playing is purely on a genius level for the entire show as things only get better from here.

Bobby goes cowboy with a resounding El Paso and then Pig Pen is right back with a incredible heart breaking It Hurts Me Too , that featues some of Jerry's best finger picking of the night.

Then the band goes deep for a 10 minute Playing in the band, which would end many forst sets for the next 28 months but not tonight . Jerry want to go back to 1970 and Pig Pen belts out a tour de force Good Lovin, that featues a wild extended funky jam and then a old school Casey Jones to closes out this long and exceptional first set.

Set II goes back to 1969 with a surprising Sitting On Top of the World followed up by a strong Me & My Uncle. Ramble One Rose is perfect and Jerry raves it up big time. Then Bobby heads back a few years for a thumping BIODTL.

Then things take off with the epic pairing of Dark Star> Morning Dew. Which features complete ensemble playing with Pig Pen really shining on the organ during Morning Dew, he had such an amazing ear for complimenting Jerry, as does the entire band and Jerry more than raises the roof on this historically bizarre place.

Read the linear notes for the insight on that one.

You get a short, not really a drum solo, but Billy is stellar the entire performance.Sugar Magnolia closes the set which Bobby have a mild brain fart but who cares the band is have a ball.

Then a rare double encore that features a powerful Sing Me Back Home and then the band cast the final hex on the Munich faithful by blowing the cosmic doors wide open with Saturday night“! T.D.

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So with 2/26/77 ( Swing) being release with 2/27/77 filler from (UCSB), is it safe to say the only 2 shows from 1977 that aren't on sound board are 4/26/77 Capitol Theatre and 6/4/77 Forum... I always thought it was 2/27/77 that was missing until after Dave's 29 was announced and I checked my old tapes and saw the big gap in 4/26/77!!! I love the Swing show but I have to say I am almost more excited to here what's from the next night, even though the Audience tape available is amazing!! Be good everyone bob t

I will check what I have.. but I believe the Forum simply doesn't exist (or at least never circulated as a soundboard, and being from CA.. if it existed one would think it would have circulated). As for 4/26.. I wouldn't be that surprised if it surfaced one day. I believe the Capitol used to record their own, both audio and video. I know it hasn't surfaced after all these years, but it could be simply because the band didn't have the tapes, so who knows.

There is video, but the sound is clearly an audience copy. Might still exist somewhere in someone attic or it might have been lost to the ravages of time, but I get the inkling it was recorded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oktHSQTUbGE

When KayakGuy used to visit these boards we had better, closer to first hand knowledge...

I will dig a bit, but I have had a good copy of the Swing for years. The Forum.. we might just need to use the Wayback to hear that in it's pristine glory.

I think if you read the tea leaves from Dave's comments on returned tapes, there isn't that much (yet) that didn't exist before, but some shows - especially in 71 and 72, are considerable upgrades. The others existed, and good copies circulated.. but weren't going to be released until the masters were in hand. There is also going to be some Garcia Band stuff, assuming they anteed up, that will begin to be inventoried, remastered and released. It seems the Garcia Band efforts are more a mystery though, so who knows.

It's starting off to be a good year. Holy Smokes.. it's amazing there isn't more shock and awe about what has been returned and what is about to be released.

As for Munich '72, a house fav. and some of the better artwork from the tour (Lille included) in my humble opinion. The first DS>MDew, and that says something. Pigpen really shines on that tour and the organ on MDew is divine.

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That sounds like a board to me. Sort of like 4/27 with lots of Audience mixed in with the board (especially between songs). Of course, I could be wrong and that wouldn't be too surprising.

P.S. BTW, I thought Dave said he's including all they have of 2/27 with DaP 29, but my memory remains foggy.

Archive: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1977/04/26/mississippi-half-step?sou…
Video: https://youtu.be/oktHSQTUbGE?t=1676

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For some reason in my memory I remember Dave L. saying that there was only 2 shows missing from 1977 in the vault. It's is interesting that the video of 4/26/77 is on Youtube but if you like on Archive there is only an audience tape. I believe and agree with statements about 6/4/77 that if there was a board of this show it would be ranked right up with other 77 shows!! Have a good week. Bob t

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...I just wanted to share with everyone Today I received my replacement discs for Daves Pick #28! Smile smile smile 😊... Everything is Primo! ;)
- a big Thank You to Dr. Rhino and the Dead.net Team for all your help, I’m very grateful as always-
- disc one for my Daves Pick #28 had an audio defect. An example would be; Track 5 Disc One ‘Tennessee Jed’ starts well before the first two minute mark, an audio glitch occurred. And a few others thru the Dead’s first set... if I remember correctly. My new disc / cd plays flawlessly as of to date!

Got my replacement and sure enough it skips in exactly the same place as the original - starting at Track 4 Let It Grow @ 1:40 and continuing on in other places from there. This is the first bad CD I've seen in maybe 5 years or more. Rhino should be embarrassed to send out the same bad disc as a replacement. Makes me worried about this years' subscription going forward... I'll have to wait to see what customer service does now. Took quite awhile for this to arrive as it was...

check out 1979. what a phenomenal year for GD.

I mean, really. mo' 79!!!

DeadBase writer disses 4/22/79, but he is WWRROONNGG. it's hot.

HEY, also check out 5/12/80. YAHOO!!!

also, check out the 1970 New Orleans run.

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Where did you get that review of the Munich 72 Show from? Are there other show reviews from the Europe 72 tour wherever you found that one?

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... I have had these notes written in my journal from a while back. I didn’t get it from any where specific when I come to think about it. I honestly can’t recall if they were in fact written by me beacause my memory sometimes does not serve me well...
Did you enjoy the review my friend :)

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...good find Jim, I was wondering what the T.D. Stood for...that was really quick too, this board is awsome! :)

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I received my replacement cd over the weekend. Here is my 2 cents on the issues with the cds, but understand that I am a pretty laid back individual. My issue was the familiar one-- Let it Grow had a big skip at the 1:40 mark that left about a 20+ second gap. I contacted Marye and she got me on the list-- thanks Marye, you rock! Understanding that they had to do a new run of cds as so many had the problem, I patiently awaited a replacement disc. Gave it a listen and at the 1:40 mark of LiG, there is a minor blip but the disc recovers and I can listen to the rest.

So, I could complain about the blip, but I am ready to call it good. I listened to hissy tapes with knock-outs, drop-outs, cuts and all sort of maladies for 20+ years. So, I can deal with this. I do most of my listening digitally, so maybe it won't even show up when I download it. As for Rhino, they are making a good faith effort to make it right on this, but they may want to examine a new disc manufacturer going forward. Those who have the same long glitch, I feel for you and hope they can get you a proper replacement soon.

BTW, I really like this show and I am generally not a fan of summer 1976. Lots of good stuff here. The H-S-F is quite good. It also got me to revisit DaP 18 and I found I like that one more than I did on its initial listen.

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Wondering if the folks having trouble with skipping discs have tried using a different reader/Cd player? Many times I've experienced issues with discs and it's usually due to a an old computer/reader where the laser isn't as strong or the bulb maybe has years of dust on it - odd that it skips in the same place.

As for the upcoming 1/2/70 show, the Tapers Compendium disses it as an unremarkable performance. However I remember liking this one.... Compendium reviews, and even Dick's notebooks, have dissed many a show that wind up being released - and being glorious. Just goes to show you have to take others' opinions with a grain of salt and listen without preconceived notions.

Looking forward to seeing the artwork. Hoping for a break from the lazy, trite (and macabre) bearded skeleton motif, but that tends to be the trend....

Haven't really been here much since they changed the board look/format. Honestly haven't really been listening to the Dead for about a year. Every few years I retreat completely - this time I've been getting into more local music. (This Thursday at Three Squares in Needham - Boston suburb - if anyone wants to come out). But I'll eventually "come around" again to the Dead. Ya have to cross-pollenate once in a while....

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Well, my replacement discs finally arrived and it appears that now disc 1 has a minor skip on Tennessee Jed at about 5:29 into the song, haven't had a chance to finish the rest of the disc or to check disc 3 yet, but my optimism is diminishing at a rapid rate. Seems like a problem when your business model is selling discs and you can't get discs manufactured without defects affecting playback. Disappointing is the word for the day. And yeah, I used to listen to sketchy tapes as well, but I didn't pay for them. If I am paying for something I feel like it really ought to work for it's intended purpose. Would deadnet fulfill my order if I only made a partial payment? Why then should I be ok with a partially working product at full price?

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Did some edibles last weekend (can't smoke unfortunately) and while on a 1976 review brought on by this DaP 28, I was listening to the bonus disc from DaP 18 and you know how it goes....a piece of music just hits your soul....
that break in Brown Eyed Women has got to be one of the most beautiful pieces of music I ever heard!
What an amazing song writer and arranger Jerry was. That chord progression, the vocal harmony, just exactly perfect. Robert Hunter was key of course.....the lyrics are "classic" Americana, yet written in the 70's! It's short and sweet. Those kind of moments can carry one for a while...gets you recharged on the good stuff.

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Got my 2 replacement CD 1s today. They both play fine. 2 CDs you may ask? One for me, one for a Christmas gift. I always buy 2 subs, one for me one for a friend's gift. First one I played back around Nov 1 I found CD 1 Track 8 where the playback problem was. Opened up the other one, and sure enough it was bad too! Did anyone notice the back label side of these discs? On both of mine the label coating had run and was wrinkled in the area of the defect like it didn't cure properly during manufacture and ran like wet paint. Easily seen by just eyeballing it. If I could attach a picture I would. Anyway looks like I got taken care of and all is good, and I can send off this late Christmas gift now. All handled by Rhino customer service.

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I got replacements for discs 1 which had a skip on Promised Land and disc 3 which had a skip on Let It Grow. Received replacements with a skip on Tennessee Jed on disc 1 and not one, but two skips on Wharf Rat on disc 3. Since receiving the original DaP28 back in early November I have listened to countless discs, previous Grateful Dead releases and a variety of old and new discs, none of which skipped on the same CD player I am still using. If the manufacturing team isn't embarrassed yet, they should be. Essentially I paid for a subscription promising 4 releases and received 3 usable releases and one with multiple skips.

It says in the Taping Compendium that the Europe 72 tour had its fair share of " uneven or unspectacular shows" where the band sound "tired and distracted". Not in my box, they don't! 4/24 Dusseldorf, 5/10 Amsterdam and 5/23 London are singled out as being below par. Maybe it was the quality of tapes they had. Maybe also, if you listen to a lot of shows from the same run, one after the other, you get a bit jaded with what's on offer. I've noticed with myself that if I play a show I really enjoy, I then go for another one from the same run, and then another-but playing the third can be a bit of a mistake, and I am better served by going to a different era entirely. Probably not a popular way of listening.

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oh you keep a GD journal on your phone, how quaint!

Can't remember if you wrote it that is funny. You should have known by the lack of any usage of the word "primo" ;-) No actually I knew it wasn't yours because I recall reading it before. I was looking to see if there was a more inclusive source of review material for the tour, but have since found a good site.

If you have any of your own thoughts to share from that journal, any 72 shows are good, that's my wheelhouse.

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Hello folks, specifically Marye and Dr Rhino,
Got around to listening to Disc 3 from Dave's 28 and sure enough track 4 " let it grow" has the skip scratch at the 1:40 mark. How can I get a functioning replacement disc?
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10-15-76 (check out the unique jam in Other One)
4-23-77 (how would this line up track-wise on a DaP?)
10-29-77 (Jerry slide solo in the newly revived Black Peter)
3-9-81 (Brent pulls out an interesting tone on the China Cat; an all-time Bird Song)
7-4-81 (Bird Song in Set II? Count me in. Playing in the Band goes out there)
7-28-82 (fantastic TLEO, St. Stephen tease leading into NFA?)

P.S. These are for thin for when he gets back to Dead listening and for Dave to ask Mr. Jeffrey Norman's help with "cleaning up". Who's got more?

P.S.S. Bonus Playing in the Band (got 30 minutes?)
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1978/01/15/playin-in-the-band?source…

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I think I wrote a reply to a post that doesn't seem to exist anymore..

Oh well.. not bother.. not much different than a double post.

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Marye posted something about a reload of the system and a window of post were lost...…. there are 10 million post in the Naked City, you have just lost one.

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Thanks for the recommendations. I can vouch for the 10/29/77 Black Peter slide solo. My fav '77 show (prob cuz not released, but certainly top 5). Jerry slide solos can be a real treat unless it's one of those Row Jimmy's that kinda plod - happened a lot unfortunately. But it just makes the killer Row Jimmy's that more special.

I recall 3/9/81 being great but haven't listened to that one forEVER. One of these days I'll wake up and only wanna hear the Dead, but right now every time I put it on my brain doesn't engage with it. I once went a few years not listening, but when I came back I was totally obsessed. It'll happen again....

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I have a killer bootleg of that show and it is one of the best of 77 IMHO. Jerry didn't do slide much, but when he did, very nice. There are a lot of soundboard copies of that one out there, just got to poke around. Received replacement discs for DP 28 yesterday, haven't listened yet.

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...I don’t have a computer any more. I gave my children and ex everything in my home during divorce. I make the best of it. I’m suffer from a terminal illness and my memory is greatly effected. I give credit when due, I pasted all the info I had on that release from my phone. I do use that word Primo a lot lol I have to work on that. ;)
Have a grateful day everyone! :)

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