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    An institution in American rock music, the Grateful Dead continue to surprise the ears with new arrangements and altered styles. If their playing continues with the force that was heard in San Bernardino, the spirit of the Dead will live on. - Sun Telegram

    We are more than pleased to kick off this year's Dave's Picks series with the much requested and quite spirited complete performance from Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA 2/26/77. The Swing ’77 show was a unique beast, unlike any others from this era: as the band’s first concert of the year, it bridged the gap between the new and re-emerging sound of the returning 1976 Grateful Dead and the precision excellence of the spring ’77 Dead. Debuting two of their most intricately crafted songs of the 1970s, “Terrapin Station” (to open, no less!) and “Estimated Prophet,” the Dead demonstrated right from the start of this new touring year that they were not going to be a nostalgia act; they were going to be as adventurous and ambitious as they were at any time in their career.

    Join the adventure as they soar through tried and true ("Playing In The Band," "Tennessee Jed"), well-loved covers ("Mama Tried," "Samson and Delilah," "Dancing In the Street"), and epic new jams.

    Rounded out with three songs from Santa Barbara, CA 2/27/77, this one was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Dave's Picks Volume 29 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    I could be wrong.. but wasn't this the last item produced by GD Merch? I think so.. Wikipedia has the record label = "Grateful Dead"

    I would bet Lemieux pushed to get it released in it's entirety.. by then the battle of the completists vs. the best of war was already well underway. If there was pushback on getting it released in it's entirety, I bet it was on the GD side.. band members, Cutler, who knows.. not that I think there was not push back, I bet there was.

    Still.. one of the early truly great releases. I listened to 2/27/69 in it's entirety quite mood enhanced yesterday back country skiing on some fresh show at one of the local mountains. Sublime. That Dark Star is really something. A masterpiece.

    oh.. comments on DaP 9, 5/14/74? Frightening.. Don't listen to that Dark Star at high volume on a day when you missed your meds.. Atonal madness that seemingly symbolizes the end of the world and just when you can't take it anymore, the bittersweet sounds of China Doll deliver you safely back to earth. A great release, albeit a bit scary at times.

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    *recent re-listen today...

    ...hello All my brothers & sisters , hope everyone is doing well.
    Today I put Daves Pick #9 on play. I started with disc one and enjoyed it once again! Jerry guitar is so strong on these recordings, ear piercing at times, I love the Fat Man playing on this release.
    David L. Didn’t write much in the liner notes/booklet that was included with this release. ‘Gratefully’ a lot of primo photographs and news paper clippings are found in the booklet.
    Anyone have any thoughts on Daves Pick #9, would love to read any feedback...
    Thank you, peace be with you all.
    : )

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    ah, Relix

    gone are the days

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    Winterland 73 was recorded by Kid Candelerio. I believe he recorded most of the November 73 releases like Dave's 5 and RT 4.3, which are top notch as well. With the Winterland 73, we also got the Plagent Process bonus.
    I do remember buying 100 year hall in the mid 1990s and it was just a two disc best of set at that point. I personally had no idea the treasures they had for E72. Of course this was all pre-internet days, so most the information we got was from Relix. Remember those days? A long time ago.

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    I am new to the releases as well, but i have heard that they had to fight for Fillmore West to get released in completion, since Rhino did not think that people would want to buy full shows with mostly repeats. I feel the success of this box opened the door for the runs of shows that we occasionally get.

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    Cops

    Unless you just got robbed or worse, usually not a good sign.

    Good catch Stolie:

    Garcia to Blair Jackson in '88 on why they stopped playing St Stephen. "We used it up... It's got little idiosyncrasies and verses that are different from each other...it's unnecessarily difficult. It's been made tricky. It's got a bridge in the middle that doesn't really fit in... It has a couple of things that work real good, but finally, the stuff that doesn't work overpowers the stuff that does work... If you don't remember every bit of it: 'Let's see, what verse is this?' They're not interchangeable - you have to do them in order. So a song like St Stephen is a cop. It's our musical policeman: if we don't do it the way it wants to go, it doesn't work at all. That means it's inflexible. "When you get good enough at those kinds of pieces, people think, 'Wow, that's really far out and open,' but that's an illusion. It's just written complicated - what we need is material that is authentically open."

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    musical cop

    mine is my metrognome (sic)

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    my recollection is JG said

    St. Stephen was their "musical cop"

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    "Follow The Dad" - Seven (The Eleven, etc.)

    Clearly KF's dad was a rabid touring deadhead. Makes perfect sense to me. :D

    I suspect The Seven was a work in progress.. Mickey brought to the game more focus on polyrhythmic and syncopated accents and beats. The fact that half the time they played this.. it was under the moniker of Mickey and the Heartbeats might indicate Mickey was at least partially involved in pushing this theme forward. This is also about the same time The Main Ten (prelude to Playing In The Band, again written by Mickey and later adopted by Bob) came to be. Add in The Eleven and you see a theme, seven, ten, eleven, etc. They were experimenting with non-standard time signatures and syncopation (and experimenting with 'other' things which plays a very big part in it all).

    I suspect Phil was a big part of this push too, but have no proof. Phil and Mickey seem to have that funk and sense of (off)beat rhythms and strange timing signatures. If you look at the 74 Jam between China and Rider (I forget what people are calling this, anyone??), but it is also a play on changes in timing signatures and beat emphasis.. seems to have Phil fingerprints as does the jam from Eyes > China Doll from this period which again is some sort of planned arrangement they slipped into preexisting transitions. Great stuff.. and for me is the drippy antimatter that keeps my attention.

    A lot of these jams disappeared over time, perhaps because as they evolved they became less fluid and cumbersome to play?? This is especially true of the older songs like Seven, The Eleven, I have heard Garcia comment that St. Stephen and a lot of the stuff on Aoxomoxoa was often cumbersome to play so it was dropped over time.

    Anyway.. just my two cents on how these songs came to be, why they might have been dropped as time went on. Oh.. it's suffice to say these guys were pretty high a lot in this time period and were somehow really good at playing in this condition. How on earth they were able to pull this off is beyond me, but I have a hard time remembering stuff when I am feeling other worldly.. if that makes sense.

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    Re: Keithfan -The Seven, & Dropping Songs

    I also need to go back and get a good listen to The Seven as I don't recall exactly how it goes or what it did....but I do recall it was only played a handful of times.

    It's funny, we think about all of the great songs the GD played and how some came and went, others came back again - we know this pretty well being the rabid base that we are. But, I recall reading an interview with Jerry (not sure when it was) and he was discussing Here Comes Sunshine, and he said something along the lines of "we only played that song like 4 times in the early '70's...." which of course if completely off base, but still quite interesting in terms of how *he* recalled this memory. Now of course, we all know Here Comes Sunshine was a MONSTER in '73 and '74, played many more times than '4'......and it was one of the hearkening calls to that era in my opinion. It's just funny to reconcile our attention to detail with others' who were actually there....

    As for the contemporaneous releases of the aforementioned Europe '72 fodder, i distinctly recall going to the record store and finding Hundred Year Hall and being f%#@ing ELATED to have more of those crispy Boards at my disposal. Not to mention that Lovelight > Jam >NFA Tease > GDRFB blew me away time and time again (and still does). Indeed, I found it curious then when 'Steppin' Out' was released, but I had not thought so far ahead to believe they would EVER release the entire tour. The delay could have been a few things, like not being 100% sure the fandom/cash-in-hand was there to justify such an enormous box; it could have also been due to the fact that Dave's Picks hadn't started up yet (this was in 2012), so there was not yet a "main focus" on the releases, so perhaps they used that lull to put the big box out in fall of 2011. Or, it could be some other reason simply because I am throwing pasta at the wall here.

    Always happy to speculate and find a good Seven.
    Sixtus

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An institution in American rock music, the Grateful Dead continue to surprise the ears with new arrangements and altered styles. If their playing continues with the force that was heard in San Bernardino, the spirit of the Dead will live on. - Sun Telegram

We are more than pleased to kick off this year's Dave's Picks series with the much requested and quite spirited complete performance from Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA 2/26/77. The Swing ’77 show was a unique beast, unlike any others from this era: as the band’s first concert of the year, it bridged the gap between the new and re-emerging sound of the returning 1976 Grateful Dead and the precision excellence of the spring ’77 Dead. Debuting two of their most intricately crafted songs of the 1970s, “Terrapin Station” (to open, no less!) and “Estimated Prophet,” the Dead demonstrated right from the start of this new touring year that they were not going to be a nostalgia act; they were going to be as adventurous and ambitious as they were at any time in their career.

Join the adventure as they soar through tried and true ("Playing In The Band," "Tennessee Jed"), well-loved covers ("Mama Tried," "Samson and Delilah," "Dancing In the Street"), and epic new jams.

Rounded out with three songs from Santa Barbara, CA 2/27/77, this one was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Dave's Picks Volume 29 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Fri, 01/25/2019 - 11:50

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Hmmmm I guess you don't have to be a fanatic to make good art for fanatics:

"Favorite Dead Era/Years:

Hard to say but as an MTV kid it’s probably the 80’s.

Desert Island Dead

I’d probably grab one of their greatest of albums.

Being A Dead Head Means…

Being a skeleton and listening to cool music."

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 01/25/2019 - 12:13

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Thanks for posting that, it's the first time I've seen it. Very amusing....I guess the interview went something like this:

Rhino: Can you draw skeletons?
Artist: Yes

Rhino: Hmmm. Okay we'll get back to you next week and let you know.

Arist: I can make them Tie-dyed with Coat-tails and Top-hats if you want.

Rhino: You're hired.

Unless it was Samuel L Jackson conducting the interview, in which case the last line would have been: "well shit, mother f*****! That's all you had to say!"

Bolo, hang in there buddy, my condolences.

....what comes around, goes around. Trade for all the Santa Barbara reels the following night? If so, you've peaked my interest.

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Submitted by MDJim on Sat, 01/26/2019 - 07:17

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….is that they pre-announce the releases for the first half of the year. So there will be no surprises until mid July.

I would almost rather not know what the releases are going to be. Once that new box smell wears off and we get discs that don't skip, the adventure is 85% over.

I guess it's a good opportunity to hit the archive.

Happy weekend all..

With 2 announcements out of the way we’re perfectly set up for a February Box announcement.

But seriously folks, we need an additional avenue of releases established. Something to fill in the gaps while we wait for the 4 yearly DaPs and occasional Box. Time to resurrect the From The Vault series and start throwing a few bones to SpaceBro, and the rest of us who want all eras released (as long as they sound good).

Condolences Señor Bolo.
May the Force be with you and your family.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/26/2019 - 07:57

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Yeah, what the kid said. More releases. More eras!
Like Kayak guy used to say, more series with different levels or tiers depending on quality etc.

Jim: kinda like Xmass, all about the anticipation.
Once the presents are unwrapped it’s mostly over.
Oh sure you dig your knew stuff and have new tunes/toys to play with,
but the big rush is before and up to the big reveal ; )

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 01/26/2019 - 11:10

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Yes, I couldn't agree with you all that we need more, but I am not sure Rhino will be putting out more than the 4 Dave's and the Annual Box. They seem to be content with this mode. And everything they do now is limited edition pre-order.
I wish they would bring back unlimited stand alone releases like Live at the Cow Palace, To Terrapin, Trucking up to Buffalo, etc. Europe 72 single shows. Those days seem to be gone.

Sure would love a February box release announcement, but it might not be till June like last year. Hope I am wrong.

Mixed bag Jim, another bad thing about the big reveal is everyone plays the shit out the copy they have, so wow factor is lower. There are times when the "official release" is only marginally better, because the boards have been bounced around forever, may hurt sales a bit, but maybe a little "honestly" on their part. Seems there are always the voices they say, "I won't buy UNLESS I know".

But whole heartily agree with more releases, how about a Dave's every two months. Maybe this shit takes a long time to do and can't hammer them out faster? Maybe a new vein of download shows, that are of lesser quality. Would that vein's leader have to clear shows with Dave?

Maybe remaining Dead members and family want a steady income stream for their heirs. Certainly their right.

In the end, the archive is there.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 01/26/2019 - 12:29

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Heeeeeyyyy yaaaaaa

got a b u n c h of GD from my source recently.

listening to 7/1/66

Dancin' reprise gets cut a little short

oh well

then here come some surprise tracks...Jerry on banjo and buddies...1964 era stuff

nice surprise

mo' Dave's!

FW Feb 70 box set

many of the tracks I have heard have splices or are cut, however.

hey, we have _s_o_m_e_ of it.

36.5 years into the LST and there are still pleasant surprises and gems to be discovered.

GOD BLESS THE GRATEFUL DEAD

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 01/26/2019 - 13:27

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Four Dave's a year, plus bonus disc ('scrip is the only way to go) and a box or two seems absolutely perfect. Some of the boxes are less affordable than others... I hate for hardcore heads to not be able to afford all of this. For me, it slakes my thirst, I mean I have many, many thousands of songs in my library and I listen to an average minimum of 3 to 4 hours of Dead 365 days a year - on weekends easily much more. On a good Saturday at home these tunes could run from 6 am to 1am the next day. If I get a bad jones to buy something, there's always tons of random bootlegs, radio broadcasts, etc. to be found on amazon, eBay, etc. Not to mention the plethora of Dead & Co. live releases... I think Rhino sticks to their proven model and we all live happily ever after.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 01/26/2019 - 16:22

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I wonder if they will all cycle back around eventually, only a few at one time though. As an example, right now you can pick up Closing of Winterland but maybe when that sells out they'll bring back Cow Palace.

Or, some of it might be tied into unspoken agreements made with Apple to have them handle the downloads for the time being.

....guess not. Must have been the acid.
https://youtu.be/miCDPzJHvjk
....her look at 5:37 is the look. The same look I've looked when I couldn't explain something I was seeing/feeling/experiencing. All these years later, I still can't explain it. The Beatles "I'm Looking Through You" takes on a whole new meaning, when one sees that she's looking through the interviewer.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 01/26/2019 - 22:37

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Older yes,
Wiser....????
Not if you’re on the Homer Simpson ‘Kill your brain with beer’ plan. But I digress.
Wait, where was I?

Watching the Disco Biscuits on youtube, which is a band that I never paid attention to before, but had heard of years ago. My first impression is: Phish meets Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.
I’ll keep watching....

But I first must pass the reCRAPTCHA exam of buses driving over fire hydrants on crosswalks while ignoring traffic lights....

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 05:19

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There's also the Record Store Day album to look forward to. I am expecting the 2/28/69 Fillmore West show to be released on vinyl sometime soon. I think I read somewhere that the whole run was going to be released on vinyl-which can't come soon enough!

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Submitted by MDJim on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 08:15

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I'm down with that. Groundbreaking performances recorded using the best recording technologies for live music available at the time.

as a bonus.. they have my favorite GD album covers and shine in the larger format. Classic GD miles removed from cartoonish skeletons and skulls with Smurf-like beards. Classic.

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 11:06

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Personally I like and agree with idea of more releases. I have been able to catch up on many that I did not have and now I sit fairly complete with what I want. Of course more is never a bad thing, but more of what? I do think that the model of 4 Dave's per year (with a bonus disc) and a box is good. Someone else already said this but it would be cool if they would release unlimited (so to speak) single shows. Maybe one or two per year? They could focus on these releases as being ones that are less popular or desirable. Now I am not saying these are going to be bad shows, just ones that are not readily sought after. For me I so desperately want a release of 1/24/71 for example, how about that? Or they could flp the model and do the highly desirable and popular shows as special one-off releases. Great examples of that that have been done already are 8/27/72, 5/8/77, 7/8/78,3/29/90. I would like to see the Dave's PIcks series be the main conduit to which we get great sounding, complete shows that have a degree of variety. I think that is what has happened to date.

Or another way to go about the single one off releases would be to produce partial shows. I know Dave is always talking about shows where they only have so many reels in the vault. If any show is not going to be complete due to missing reels then that would be one should to see the light of day. It may never be complete so why hold back on a release of it? It would be similar to a taper's section release except only parts of the show is being releases because that is all they have. I mean the filler for o. 20 form Santa Barbara is going to be a great treat. It will fir on great on this release but say for example that wasn't the case. It would still be great if it was able to be put out there for all, even though it is only a few songs.

Anyway this is all just fun ideas and talk. Good times in any case.

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Submitted by perithecat on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 12:23

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This might sound like a daft thing to ask but can anyone tell me why is it that you can get pretty much everything on iTunes but the daves picks series ( dicks picks / road trips / all of Europe 72 and nearly all of the one offs )
I would love to hear some of the early Dave stuff but unless I remortgage the house and buy them on eBay I’ve no chance .
Any thoughts ?

Just gave it a spin, very nice.
Ready for the rest of the FW 69 shows to come out on vinyl.

Now going with 6-29-76, in solid state micro SDXC card form.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 13:14

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....not possible Mr. Cat. Spotify is your friend though. All the recent Dead & Co releases are up and running. Im not an Apple fan, so my knowledge may be lacking in certain fields.

...I’m in love with this set list, wish I had a computer...

XL Center, Hartford, CT (11/22/17)
1. Iko, Iko
2. Shakedown Street
3. They Love Each Other
4. Loose Lucy
5. Friend Of The Devil
6. Bird Song
7. Estimated Prophet
8. Eyes Of The World
9. China Doll
10. The Other One
11. Drums
12. Space
13. Spanish Jam
14. Black Peter
15. Uncle John's Band
16. U.S. Blues
17. Knockin' On Heaven's Door

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 16:56

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Is it still available at normal price anywhere?

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Submitted by MDJim on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 18:11

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They seem to have some for $85 + shipping on eBay. Honestly.. I would have thought it would be higher by now.

I forget what they were when first released..

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 01/27/2019 - 18:55

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$70.05 on Amazon.

I paid $80 or more on release day (and I’m not even a robot).

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Submitted by MDJim on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 05:24

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Do robots get discounts? A strong sign we going to lose the fight against AI.

In the leadup to the swing, I couldn't help but heed the call from those here re: Cow Palace 12/31/76. So I gave it a spin last week as a precursor to very next show played, 2/26/77 The Swing. I had forgotten what a great show that was and the stunning multi-track recording makes this a rare gem.. The recording and mix were so clear I got side tracked and fixated on the vocals during my last listen.

The Help on the Way>Slipknot!>NFA>Morning Dew is stupendous. Regarding the Dew, with the exception of 1972, I think this version might have the cleanest, best recorded vocals of the bunch. I would also contend the vocals were a bit stronger in this version then any of the four played in Europe.. the song was simply more mature by then and Jerry had not started is vocal decline.. yet.

But it got me thinking.

We have 30 Dave's Picks either released or announced. Of these, we have 9 Dark Stars appearing on 8 Dave's Picks (DaP 6 had two). Two of these appear only on bonus discs (6 and 10). We only have two Morning Dews appearing on Dave's Picks (DaP 5 and DaP 13. 13 has both a Dark Star>Morning Dew).

Some history, Dark Star was played 231 times, first played I think in the studio on 11/14/67, last played on 3/30/94. Most of these were in the early years and they took many breaks from the song, some extended. Between October '74 and October '89, it was only played a handful of times with a 4 year and a 5 year absence.

Morning Dew was played 257 times, first played at the Human Bee In on 1/14/67 and last played on 6/21/95. It was played at least once a year with the exception of 1975. I wouldn't call it a rarity, but it really wasn't played that often. To me, it seemed they saved it for special occasions or rotated it just when they needed it most.

So it seems we are due a few Morning Dew's. If we go back a year one might say the same thing about Help>Slipknot!>Franklins Tower, and blammo.. we get three in a row. 2019 into 2020 might very well be Dew heavy.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 06:45

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more releases? with skips and scratches? no thanks, get the manufacturing part right and then release more, I'm down with that for sure. 85.00 for one record? wow, you guys really are fans.

Well.. it's pressed on four 180 gram discs and they are not printing 100,000 at a time. This is more or less what these 4 disc vinyl reproductions cost, and the quality is quite high. I just looked at a bunch of vinyl albums on Amazon, trying to stay away from secondary sellers.. I am not finding a single 180 gram album for under $20. Seeing as this is a four disc album, and is available only on the secondary market.. I am surprised we are seeing them for under $80 ($20 a disc).

If you are going to bash shoddy quality, low-end manufacturing with defects (something I agree with you on), then it seems contrary that you also bash a clearly higher quality approach even if it costs a few dollars more. I have not heard a single complaint about skipping or quality of these vinyl re-issues.

I don't know.. this seems like much better value than dinner for two at Outback.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 08:05

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I put this one on last night. Bertha has some static / distortion. I was listening on an mp3 rip of the tune, and my original CDs are stowed away. Just wondering if anyone else recalls an issue like this on the opener, Bertha?

Come on shipping notice, get here get here get here.

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 09:43

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That's a reasonable price for 180 gram vinyl, 4 discs. I didn't think to look on eBay because I assumed the prices would be so over-inflated that I wouldn't be interested. If they're going to be selling all 4, how can I not, right?

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Submitted by MDJim on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 12:27

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well.. the complete recordings (4 shows 10 cds) is listed for $900 on eBay, used. I think I paid something like $100 in 2005 and the bonus disc came free.

https://www.ebay.com/i/333014665513?chn=ps

Not sure if they will get that much, but it adds some perspective. There is a listing for just the bonus disc for $450. I think I am going to start selling bridges.. wish me luck.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 12:55

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The comments about ebay listing prices for FW 69 Complete Recordings got me curious, so I checked the sold listings and there is a huge variation. The lowest prices were $99.49 for a set rated "very good" and $100 for a set rated "like new". At the other end of the spectrum, there was a set rated "new (other)" sold for $850 and a few sets that sold for $699 each. There were a number of sets sold with intermediate values in the $400-600 range, give or take. Seems like they can reliably be had for a few hundred dollars, and occasionally someone gets lucky and pays close to the original cost of the set, kind of an argument for patience.

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Submitted by MDJim on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 14:29

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I didn't even know how to see what items sold for.. didn't even know you could do that... so I did the same thing.

The $99 one sold in a little more than 8 minutes after being listed, and was a couple months ago. The rest seem to be in the mid-range. ..so patient but quick to pull the trigger if you want it under $400 to $500.

Interesting.. I am admittedly an eBay novice.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 17:10

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the prices for individual shows y'all are citing...never.

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Submitted by PapaHooper on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 17:17

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Delayed release this year? Every other year I’ve subscribed, a shipment notice is received on the 23rd or 24th of the month, like clockwork. This year... it’s the 28th and I’ve received no such notice. Hmmmm

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 01/28/2019 - 18:15

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85 bucks is actually pretty cheap for for vinyl LPS, 180 gram vinyl. Every place I look for vinyl these days, it's either 25 or $30 for a single vinyl LP. 85 seems comparatively cheap.

There's a really solid Terrapin Station on Dick's Picks 29. Most of them from 77 or pretty solid. How many Terrapin fans out there. How many would put Terrapin Station in their top 10 desert island Grateful Dead songs? It would be borderline for me. Nah, as much as I like it I could come up with 10 others.

Dennis, thanks for the feedback on the Bertha from May 77. I may have to dig up my CD. What I am hearing is actual distorted guitar on Jerry side. The kind of distortion you get when you turn the recording level up to high. It's kind of fuzzy.

Edit - just listened again. The distortion is from 3:00 - 4:00 mainly on Keith's piano.

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