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    An institution in American rock music, the Grateful Dead continue to surprise the ears with new arrangements and altered styles. If their playing continues with the force that was heard in San Bernardino, the spirit of the Dead will live on. - Sun Telegram

    We are more than pleased to kick off this year's Dave's Picks series with the much requested and quite spirited complete performance from Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA 2/26/77. The Swing ’77 show was a unique beast, unlike any others from this era: as the band’s first concert of the year, it bridged the gap between the new and re-emerging sound of the returning 1976 Grateful Dead and the precision excellence of the spring ’77 Dead. Debuting two of their most intricately crafted songs of the 1970s, “Terrapin Station” (to open, no less!) and “Estimated Prophet,” the Dead demonstrated right from the start of this new touring year that they were not going to be a nostalgia act; they were going to be as adventurous and ambitious as they were at any time in their career.

    Join the adventure as they soar through tried and true ("Playing In The Band," "Tennessee Jed"), well-loved covers ("Mama Tried," "Samson and Delilah," "Dancing In the Street"), and epic new jams.

    Rounded out with three songs from Santa Barbara, CA 2/27/77, this one was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Dave's Picks Volume 29 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #121
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    THE worst cover of any of Dave's Picks by a long shot. Very disappointing.

    Rock on

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    Can't wait to find out what parts of these fantastic looking shows we're gonna be devouring! I've been preparing by listening to DaP 6 2/2/70 (the show after the New Orleans bust, and sans TC), and 12/20/69, finished 2/2 on lunch break in the car, hoping Pig didn't go too much on the "reach over my left shoulder" rap as there was a young lady sunning herself whilst I blasted my music with my windows down eating my Zaxby's. But since somebody suggested they go into Not Fade Away for shits and giggles, we were all spared from a salacious Pig rap from 1970, and he only mentioned getting yo hands outta yo pockets once I recall. But the ride home featured the incredibly lovely 20 min Dark Star opener from the second show, 12/20/69 at the Fillmore West (with TC), 9 months previously the site of 4 nights of fire and fury captured for all eternity on 16 track reels (the first ever 16 track live recording) and gifting the universe with Live/Dead, but a lot had happened over the course of 9 months, if the setlist stayed somewhat the same. The band on the second part of DaP 6 goes Dark Star> St Stephen> The Eleven> New Speedway Boogie instead of into the Lovelight they eventually get to, and instead of light, they plunge into the darkness that was Hunter S Thompson's great crashing wave, sweeping the dreams and idealism of the 60s back out to sea. Talk about coming full circle... Which brings me back to DaP 30 and the wonderful mystery meat we get to devour in just over 2 weeks time. From 2 weeks after they played the Fillmore West, they were on the left coast to play Bill's legendary theater, and here's the only thing missing from keithfan's post, the 1/3 setlist:
    Ealy show: Morning Dew, Me And My Uncle, Hard To Handle, Cumberland Blues, Cold Rain & Snow, Alligator > Drums > Jam > Bid You Goodnight Jam > Jam > Alligator Jam & Reprise > Caution Jam > Feedback, E: Uncle John's Band;
    Entire Late show played was: Casey Jones, Mama Tried, Big Boss Man, China Cat Sunflower-> Jam-> I Know You Rider-> High Time Tease, Mason's Children, Cryptical Envelopment-> Drums-> The Other One-> Cryptical Envelopment-> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band-> Black Peter, Dire Wolf, Good Lovin', Dancin' In The Streets-> Drums-> Dancin' In The Streets, E: Saint Stephen-> In The Midnight Hour

    I am so looking forward to hearing some tasty stuff from that! I'm actually listening to The Other One from it now... But the combinations of these setlists is just mindblowing. We get everything. It's a Thanksgiving feast of epic proportions.

    And I wonder if these were part of the Houseboat Tapes, been a while since we got something from that batch. DaP 19 1/23-24/70 I believe was from that, as well as DaP 6 as mentioned above, and DaP 10 Thelma 12/10-11/69.

    Also, no 1969 show to come out with Aoxomoxoa?

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    DaP 30's reflection cover....

    ....it's fresh on my brain, but I freaking love it!! Looks like my dog's paws! And dogs are always the first to greet you when you get home. If you scroll down a bit, you get a cool rotating AOXOMOXOA thing. Ye haw!!
    Newcastle 4.11.72's first set is under the belt. Taking a break. I'm exhausted though, so the second set may be broken up.

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    Fargin Bastages..

    Edit: One of the kind folks here forwarded me the email.. agree, they seem to be wolf paws. I like the cover art if for no other reason there are no cartoonish skeletons and especially no skeletons with full beards.

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    Fantastic cover, no skeletons, no beards; just the Dire Wolf's paws.

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    the email just hit my box that the sale date for DP 30 is next Thursday the 18th...Don't quite understand the cover but that's ok...

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    Yes Sir 80s Fan - 7/7/89 - The Bus Came By and I Got On.....

    I'm from the Philly area, so it was big news that the Grateful Dead were taking the stage for the last event that would ever be played at JFK Stadium. It was the summer between my Junior and Senior years of high school. What do I remember? Well, I've told this story before, so if you've heard it, feel free to stop me.....

    It was a sweltering hot sunny day, as humid as NJ and Philly ever get. I had no idea I was going to the show until 4pm that day. I was sitting at my kitchen table playing around with my brother's unloaded Glock, shooting imaginary bad guys, just like Martin Riggs had done a few hours earlier at the premier of Lethal Weapon 2. As I goofed around with the 9mm, which, I actually had a legitimate reason for holding nearby (the purpose of which does not come into this story), I made phone calls to WMMR and WYSP, as well as the local record stores, in an effort to figure out the song that was played at the end of the movie, right as it looked like it might be Riggs' last stand; after all, he was lying in a pool of blood with knife and gunshot wounds, and the most somber gospely blues tune I ever heard playing - something about going to Heaven. Well, [SPOILER ALERT] Riggs lived to make two bad sequels to the sequel, and my eyes dried up by the time I left the theater; but I couldn't remember how that damn song went, and nobody I contacted had a clue.

    Then into my house walked two complete strangers: one was tall and lean, perhaps a year or two older than me; the other was a little bit shorter, thickly bearded, and smiling. I wasn’t expecting anyone when I heard the front door open, so call it instinct if you will - you know, the kind of instinct that guides us to mindlessly remove bongs and other various sundries from site, when an unannounced visitor enters our domain - only it was the Glock and ammo cartridge that I was reaching for. I might have jammed the clip in at once if the shorter bastard hadn’t been smiling so friendly and looking so damn familiar. He greeted me by name, still smiling, still friendly-like. You would think this might have settled my uneasiness, but among other things, the FBI guys instructed my brother not to acknowledge any strangers who called out his name (apparently this is a technique that some would-be harm-doers use to identify a target they’ve never met in person). A lot of things went through my mind in a flash: I should have loaded the gun instead of hiding it; I should have locked the door after I came back from the matinee; I can’t believe this “very small chance they would bother us” possibility came to pass; but overriding all of that second guessing was a rush of adrenaline that hit me when I realized they never saw the gun. I croaked “hello” or something equivalent, and began to insert the clip, out of site, under the table. I had no reservations about living out a different movie now, the one where our hero famously gets off a round from under the table - kill or be killed - at least until George Lucas got bored and started f***ing around with CGI; except now the bearded hippie SOUNDED familiar too. The whole encounter played out in just a few seconds, but it felt like an eternity. The voice belonged to my cousin from Buffalo. We're the same age and grew up spending a couple of weeks a year together; but up until that day, the visits were announced, and he certainly never showed up long haired and bearded (hell, I didn't even know he could grow a damn beard yet - we were only 17). Never met his friend before, so the duo WERE 50% strangers. Suffice it to say they didn't get shot that day, but the story echoed through our lives for many years.

    His buddy had come with him from the Truckin' Up To Buffalo show on the 4th of July. They enjoyed it so much they decided to surprise me with a visit and an invitation to go. I was not too familiar with Dead in those days. I knew In The Dark from MTV and MMR, and I may have heard Friend of the Devil once. But I wasn’t about to pass a Dead show by, just because I didn’t know their music. After all, my cousin was my partner in crime: we'd seen KISS in '79, Rush in '86 and '87, Van Halen in '86 on Sammy's first tour, Pink Floyd in '88; and now we had driver's licenses, so it was only getting better. He was supposed to be arriving a couple of days later for The Who Reunion at Vet Stadium, and then we had the Stones Steel Wheels Tour kicking off at the end of August. Good times.

    I remember the circus atmosphere of the crowd at JFK. I imagine the tailgating scene in the 70s was a drop in the bucket compared to this. We've all been to the rodeo, so I won't rehash it. But it made me feel liberated, watching all of these liberated people. Liberated from what? I don't know - just free. However free you may feel, I think live music intensifies that feeling, and I don't think any more so than with the Dead. I'd never seen so many people in one place before. When Jerry walked out, I remember my cousin smiling and saying "there he is – Jerry Garcia. He's like a messiah around here." My response was, "well, he has my respect - he's playing Pete's Woodstock guitar". Of course in hindsight, he was not - at least not since 1970. The guitar I mistook for Townshend's "Woodstock guitar" was The Tiger, which has a very similar shape and color. Pete had played the Gibson SG, which Jerry also used on Live Dead and into 1970 (depicted on DaP Vol 6). The crowd erupted when Jerry walked out, like no greeting I'd ever seen for a band, let alone one guy in the band (he came last and was greeted loudest).

    Then completely unheralded - no light show or elaborate stage rig, no announcement stating we'd got the best - they just simply started playing Hell In A Bucket. Good by me, I knew that song. But that was like a soundcheck for the crowd. The real DeadHead personalities came out on the next number - Iko Iko. Now that was a unique concert experience. In the course of the next 7 or 8 minutes, I GOT what all of the hoopla was about for this band. If ever a performance captured a band's soul and spirit and allowed it to be imbibed by the audience, it was Iko Iko at JFK, where the kids all danced and shaked their bones. Did I mention all of the beach balls? It was a sea of Tie-Dye and beach balls.

    Check out the contrast in crowd movement between Hell In A Bucket, the show opener, and Iko Iko, song #2

    Hell In A Bucket:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkAzMiEUUQ8

    Iko Iko (crowd shots around 1:47, 2:10, and 3:02):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMpaD-ktv7Q

    Highlights at the time include Blow Away, Standing on the Moon, Garcia's soloing during Scarlet Begonias (how did he produce that tone???), the crowd singing Fire On The Mountain, and of course the encore, which, by some strange twist of fate was the very song I was trying to track down from the Lethal Weapon movie. I turned to my cousin and exclaimed "holy shit! THIS is the song I was talking about from the movie!"

    "Oh!" he said, "This is an old Bob Dylan song - Knockin' On Heaven's Door."

    Amen.

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    Anniversary shows that I was in attendance 4/11/88 and 4/11/89

    Got to say you know how you always secretly hope that the shows you attended will always be released, well I have to say these two I can wait for other shows to be released. I am a pretty positive person and would love to see a show tomorrow with the lineup that played at these shows. Not knocking these years because I saw the 3 Alpine shows from July 89 which were awesome, and the 88 Landover shows with Ripple... 4/11/89 Rosemont Horizon had a great Shakedown to open also. They were just the shows that you went to hoping to get that killer show. The Mecca shows from 4/15 and 4/16/89 were really good!! Maybe I am just trying to say in a round about way that there a lot of good shows that can still be released! Or maybe they used all the magic up on 4/11/72?? bob t

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    You guys (and hopefully gals) are awesome. Great posts.. great vibes.. plenty of energy and ideas on what to listen to next.

    Thank you.

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    thanks Keithfan - I was actually thinking of you the other day when I was listening to the Crimson White & Indigo release (7/7/89 I believe). You were there right? Must have been an awesome experience!

    1989 is full of so many amazing shows up and down the calendar. Wouldn't mind seeing a Dave's Picks from say, 10/19/89 (one of my favorite all time shows)

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An institution in American rock music, the Grateful Dead continue to surprise the ears with new arrangements and altered styles. If their playing continues with the force that was heard in San Bernardino, the spirit of the Dead will live on. - Sun Telegram

We are more than pleased to kick off this year's Dave's Picks series with the much requested and quite spirited complete performance from Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, CA 2/26/77. The Swing ’77 show was a unique beast, unlike any others from this era: as the band’s first concert of the year, it bridged the gap between the new and re-emerging sound of the returning 1976 Grateful Dead and the precision excellence of the spring ’77 Dead. Debuting two of their most intricately crafted songs of the 1970s, “Terrapin Station” (to open, no less!) and “Estimated Prophet,” the Dead demonstrated right from the start of this new touring year that they were not going to be a nostalgia act; they were going to be as adventurous and ambitious as they were at any time in their career.

Join the adventure as they soar through tried and true ("Playing In The Band," "Tennessee Jed"), well-loved covers ("Mama Tried," "Samson and Delilah," "Dancing In the Street"), and epic new jams.

Rounded out with three songs from Santa Barbara, CA 2/27/77, this one was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Dave's Picks Volume 29 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 02/18/2019 - 07:49

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Whoa - at work here now, looked down at my calendar. February 18th....date looks important. Someone's birthday I know? No...hmmm.
Wait - yes - not sure if anyone mentioned it yet - 48 years today....Mickey Hart's last show before taking his personal hiatus from the band. Also the start of a the historic 6 show Capital Theater run. First of several new songs played. Wharf Rat for sure on the 18th (and it's a doozy, "river" lyric notwithstanding). Also the night that Dark Star included Beautiful Jam. Tried looking up the other new songs played but boss coming. Did find this cool link:

http://www.thecapitoltheatre.com/2018/02/18/6-of-the-most-legendary-gra…

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Submitted by ShaggyFraggle on Mon, 02/18/2019 - 08:35

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I just realised that Help>Slip>Franklin is played on a broken-down old spaceship. Of course, most of it's invisible or in the fourth physical dimension so we can't see it. And here are Donna and the boys, cranking away on broken cogs and twisting smashed up gauges. Not a song at all, but the whirring of a grumpy old spacecraft trying to start up again. Must've crashed here some time ago.

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Submitted by DaveStrang on Mon, 02/18/2019 - 08:41

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5 new songs debuted at this show:
1. Bertha (they sound like they had been playing this for months; Jerry tears into it from the 1st note)
2. Loser
3. Greatest Story Ever Told (also the 1st pairing with JBG)
4. Wharf Rat (in a unique 1st set 'Dark Star' sandwich)
5. Playing In The Band

2/19/71 (official release) saw the debut of:
1. Bird Song
2. Deal

This was a great run for the band.

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Mon, 02/18/2019 - 09:21

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Keith Fan thank you!!! I had these shows for years in not so great sound quality. Recently got upgraded, but with Pacific Northwest and DaP 28 and 29, had not had a chance to listen to them. Today is the perfect day to start. My recollection from the Three From The Vault liner notes is that it was recorded on the multi-track. Maybe this will finally see the light of day. I know I ain't getting younger, so Dave Lemieux start looking for an artist and unveil this thing in 2019!! For the sake of continuity we'll need to include the slight overlap that Three From the Vault owners will experience (who imagine is all of us) . Really, does anyone not own TFV?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 02/18/2019 - 20:06

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....I love the song Cold Rain & Snow. But in reality, I hate the physical product. I don't know how y'all do it. It's pretty yeah, but screw that.
....edit. my subwoofer went to the great gig in the sky. Shopping for a replacement. Thoughts?

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Tue, 02/19/2019 - 06:15

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I have heard great things about SVS. The 1000 series is supposed to be the best in the $500 price range, but you can certainly spend more. The 3000 series looks like it might be able to blow your house off the foundation, and if you have $1,400 to spend would be a great choice. I own the SVS book shelves and they are great. I’ve been thinking about the 1000 series sub but have not pulled the trigger yet. I don’t even take the chance of hiding the receipt. It’s either cash or the paperless auto pay Best Buy credit card for me. If your wife is an audiophile, you’re screwed anyways, she will notice the difference right away!

https://www.svsound.com/pages/subwoofers#1000-series

Edit: Actually only $999 for the 3000 series...wow, still out of my budget for a sub

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 02/19/2019 - 06:53

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You're welcome Darkstar.

Casey Jane's word of caution at Best Buy. I bought a pair of headphones 3 weeks ago and they fell apart. Because it was longer than 14 days, they won't exchange it or refund it, they're making me deal directly with JBL audio. JBL wants me to pay for shipping. The $30 headphones I bought for an 8 year old, so the shipping loan is going to cost me 50% of what I paid for the product. Bottom line, they have different warranties for different products, make sure you understand your warranty completely before buying from those filthy scoundrels.

I never have time to listen to a whole Grateful Dead show in one sitting., so I am getting a head start on the yearly pilgrimage to Europe 72. I have delved into the opening show this morning, April 7th 1972 at the Wembley Empire Pool. I think this is an underrated show. It is so every one of the ones that suffers greatly from Godchaux's piano being silenced. One of my favorite greatest stories Ever Told, you get not one but two cool clear water while you can never tells. Also one of my favorite other ones, which interpolate El Paso and Wharf rat. Captcha kicking my ass this morning. Have a great day

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Submitted by simonrob on Tue, 02/19/2019 - 09:27

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You said: "I never have time to listen to a whole Grateful Dead show in one sitting."

I say: "Get your priorities in order - make the time. You know it makes sense!". 😂

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Submitted by MDJim on Tue, 02/19/2019 - 14:11

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I have a few ideas that might increase your Grateful Dead listening time. I have tested the suggestions below myself and they all work quite well.

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- Tell everyone you know you won Powerball or MegaMillions. People will be too busy being nice to you to notice all you do is listen to the GD. This is especially true of bosses and coworkers, trust me they won't expect much from you and aren't even thinking about the possibility that they will need to fire you.

- Fake Alzheimer's. You should be able to sneak in a couple weeks of nonstop musical bliss until people start to figure out they've been had.

- Set up a leash / wire / zipline system for the kids in the back yard and angle the TV out the back window so they can see it from the zipline area. Tune in to Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. Send your wife on a weekend getaway to the Spa, thinking Palm Springs or somewhere nice and warm (and hopefully far away). Don't forget to leave food and water bowls out for the kids (very important).

- Convince everyone you are insane. They will give you all the peace and space you need.

- Fake your own death. This, too, will give you all the time you need for a couple weeks or so and you can get caught up on your listening..

I am sure the good folks here have ideas and can help. A mind is a terrible thing to waste not listening to enough Good Ole Grateful Dead.

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I got a real chuckle out of the Strategic Dead Listening program. Thanks for the ideas Jimbo, and for the motivation Simonrob.

I've been having some really weird dreams lately. I think because I've been getting up at 2 or 3 in the morning for work the past month, it's interrupting my REM sleep, which is when we dream. So I think I'm just remembering my dreams now, where on a normal night I don't remember dreaming about anything ever. Not since I was a kid anyway. Anyway I go to sleep with a dead playing every night, usually dark stars and bird songs and China cats. When I woke up this morning I had a dream that I was just floating through space high on nitrous, listening to the Dead. And I felt really high on nitrous, even though it was just a dream. The brain is powerful thing. I could FEEL it. But it got me to thinking - that wouldn't be a bad way to spend eternity - floating through space high as a kite or the Grateful Dead as the soundtrack. Sign me up.

Wharf Rat 12/2/73. Very high mark's on Heady Version. People are calling it the best ever. It's good, yeah, but the best? I better go listen again.

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Submitted by MDJim on Tue, 02/19/2019 - 19:06

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That whole Winterland '74 run is stellar. Too bad they couldn't figure out a way to release the complete recordings.. or perhaps one day they will.

Been on a GD terror lately.. I guess I had a little free time.

The last few releases are simply killer and deserve (and get) repeat listens. Holy Cow.. Dave is on a roll. I have not given up on the '76 Capitol and the PNW 73/74 box. Oh.. and my first two listens of the swing were fungal enhanced. Wow, what a great show.. but it took another two listens for the significance to sink in.

What a great year to enjoy the Grateful Dead.

....now Keithfan throws best Wharf Rats into the ring. Nashville's 4.22.78 take comes to mind instantly.
Regarding dreams, they say weed inhibits REM sleep. Sativa? Maybe. Indica? Not so much. I do notice that when I do take a break, dreams are more vivid. Especially the falling ones. I have those, and I hate them....so I smoke some weed.

I hope this list does not expand.. at a certain point I will begin competing against myself.

As for dreams.. I know one thing for certain.. alcohol ruins dreams (and sleep in general). I wish weed was legal when I was younger.. and more acceptable. I would have drank less, smoked (or eaten) more and been both happier and healthier.

Just my opinion.. I could be wrong.

As for the best Slipknot!'s ever..

Going in a completely different direction, I listened to the 10/22/67 Winterland show this morning-the bonus disc released with Anthem last year. The Cryptical-Other One is amazing! Its light years away from anything I know of as rock n' roll, but it has the same energy and power-Jerry's guitar makes it, but the double drums and swirling organ add to the delirium. Also has the original lyrics.

Glancing at the spines of the Daves Picks released so far, it seems there hasn't been one from this period-late 1967 to mid 1969. The 1969 ones that have been released were from later in the year, when they were gradually moving away form this intense jamming to include more country based material. Not saying they haven't been good choices, but it would be great if we had an early show later in the year.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 06:25

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...I concur with everything you wrote!...
Would love some early Dead!!! One of my favorites time period in the Grateful Dead career. I’m feeling a release in the near future ;)

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 07:59

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"where's that confounded bridge?"

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 08:01

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a strain that should be created

"my smile smile smile is stuck"

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Submitted by DaveStrang on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 09:49

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'We're doing things that haven't got a name yet.'

I can't say those were the exact words…though the sentiment applied to both JA & GD.

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Submitted by WharfratWhitey on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 10:27

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Very much agree that a 66 to early 69 show is long overdue. That said with aoxomoxoa’s 50th on the horizon we may get something special there!

I suggest an experiment.. get a room full of people.. half will take some good acid, the other half, the control group, will be given a placebo. Then we can listen to DaP 30 and vote if it is primal.

I volunteer to be in the out of control group.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 16:40

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I’m with you Vguy...anything with an early and late show has to be considered primal...correct?

Also curious Vguy, what you are thinking about the sub purchase...keep us in the loop?

Today’s listening: Daves 26 Hill Auditorium Show

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 18:25

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....you mean the Dave's subscription? Schwing is already in my top five. Dave's 30 looks delicious. Happy camper here.
Forecast shows snow again tonight. One of the reasons I live here is so I don't have to deal with that shit. 😖

(expecting big pushback on that).. but it is big fun.

Run Me Out In The Cold Rain and Snow.

Now marrying me a wife, she's been trouble all my life, NOT fun.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 21:27

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Yes, I am sure snow in Vegas sucks.

Be thankful you don't live in MN. We have so much snow here I have no where left to put it.

Did have time to listen to the May 77 show at the St.Paul Civic Center again today. What a show, probably one of my top five Jack Straw and Peggy-Os.

More snow on the way.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 02/20/2019 - 21:42

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....I'm good as long as I don't need to scrape my windshield. I spendt four years in snow country. That was three years and 51 weeks too long.

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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 04:30

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So much good stuff here. Where to even begin.

Been on a good "winter show" listening regimen lately. Keeping up with exact anniversaries is a challenge --- but I can at least match the seasons.

Last 5:
1-22-78 (Dave's 23).
I had given this a cursory listen when it first showed up, then kind of forgot about it. I pulled it out again for two solid, at home, uninterrupted listens. I gotta say I didn't *love* it. I remember folks raving about this one when it came out. It was good, sure, but didn't blow my mind. That 'close encounters' part (which I'm sure was cool AF if you were there at the time) is really subtle, I missed it the first time entirely. Overall, I think I like the July 78 box better, which just goes to show how high the bar is for Dead releases.

2-2-70 from Dave's 6: I wanted to "warm up" for the Fillmore East 70 run, and this was perfect. Its crazy to think that two days earlier they were sitting in jail in New Orleans. Heavy on the newer folksy stuff, with a great Hard to Handle, and an above replacement level Dark Star. I set up my beanbag chair right in front of my downstairs speakers, closed my eyes, and enjoyed a blissful ride through the transitive nightfall right up until the dog needed to inform me that the mailman was coming to try to kill us, once again. Why I usually try to save Dark Stars for afterhours.

Speaking of . . .
2-13-70. If there's a more intense 90 minutes of Dead than the Dark Star / TOO / Lovelight that ends this show, I'd like to hear to hear it. This one got a properly enhanced uninterrupted headphones listen which restored my faith in the universe. One of the all time legendarily famous Dark Stars for a reason. The whole show is solid, too. I meticulously spliced together the show in proper order from Dick's 4, Bear's choice, and the "leftovers" which are available on Midnight Cafe. Its the only way I'm going to listen to it from now on. Same with:

2-14-70. This Dark Star isn't as mind bending, but it was early in the 1st set and they clearly were still coming down from the night before. The 2nd, mostly acoustic, set and the final set, which is the bulk of Dick's 4 is fantastic. The folk / rock dichotomy is really coming into focus here. What other band could pull off both styles so well?

2-12-70. I actually listened to this before the 13th and 14th. There's a really nice sounding copy on Midnight Cafe. It was suprisingly good, for a set that naturally gets overshadowed by the next two days.

Anyway I've bored you all enough with my ramblings, time to do a deep dive into Port Chester 71. I did not remember that tidbit about the 18th being Mickey's last show (for awhile) and all of the song debuts in that run. See ya on the other side.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 04:31

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I always think of it a referring to the period from late 1967 to mid 1969, when a massive proportion of the shows featured jamming as featured on Anthem and Live Dead. This period seemed to end towards the latter part of 1969, with the introduction of the Working Mans songs and traditional ones in the same vein. They obviously still featured the primal approach-and Deads 30 looks like a great example-5/2/70 is another one-but they seemed to be edging away into something new. By the Portchester 1971 run, it had gone completely, it my ears.

A lot of what I think of as primal shows were also one set shows-many of the great shows form 1968 look as though they were one set only.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 05:30

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...For all you Vinyl lovers.

...’The Grateful Dead’ – The Warfield Theatre, San Fransico... ; )

...also ‘Janis Joplin’ “Live at Woodstock Performance... love it!!! :)

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Submitted by MDJim on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 06:31

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I see what you mean, Dave. I guess I look at it more like a sliding scale. Clearly the 4/18/70 acoustic show is not primal, and they were sprinkling this element into their electric shows.. but take 5/2/70 as an example. They did an acoustic set this show but the electric set, to me, achieves lift off. They still had some rocket fuel left in them, but it was a transitional period..

I am a big fan of early, primal dead. The problem I have with it.. is the amount of energy it takes to listen to it. In other words.. I truly love it, but I usually don't go there unless I have the time, energy and focus to absorb it. Fortunately.. this occurs somewhat frequently.

Nice thread though.. I do think we are due something old at some point. Perhaps the 50th of Aoxomoxoa will give us another visit to that era.

On a related note, I had a recent listen to parts of Dicks Picks 22 - February 23 and 24, 1968, at the Kings Beach Bowl, Kings Beach CA (Lake Tahoe). What a daring piece of music.. at various points it still gives me the chills. What I wouldn't give to go back in time and take a trip into that bowling ally on those two days. Unbelievable stuff...

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 08:32

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Not sure if this has been posted here yet, but Real Gone Music has the Skydog Duane Allman 14 LP box set for $199, down from $499...yes, $300 discount!

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 09:01

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Hold on a second...what kinda snow are we talking about here? Not really my style anymore but I did go sledding yesterday....first time in years!

Subs----subscription, sub sandwich, sub woofer....I'm not the one who brought it up :-)

Primal Dead - I'm with you DaveRock on the primal up to 69, but stick to my guns on most of the late shows. The upcoming Dave's 30 for example ends with a 29 minute Dark Star, then St. Stephen, 12 minute Eleven, and then a 23 minute Lovelight.....If that's not primal then I don't know what is? I have not listened to it yet (saving myself for the official release) but I can't wait!

Love My Girl....can you send a link to the RSD GD announcement for April 2019?.....Google is failing me!

78 Box Set - Supposed to be delivered today along with the 16 oz Bolt Etched Glasses!! Is Noon too early for IPA?

2-27-69 vinyl spinning now

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Submitted by simonrob on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 09:42

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I brought up a sub sandwich once. It was neither a pleasant experience nor a pretty sight.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 10:26

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I think I read somewhere Dick Latvala once referred to 10-11-77 Norman as primal dead. Go figure.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 10:43

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Channeling my inner Doc. Hope your doing well and still lurking about...

Finally have a chance to say how-do to all our wonderful brothers and sisters here in dead land. Speaking of sisters, have we heard anything from hippy chick since she jumped the pond?
So many good topics lately, but no time etc. Murphy’s law, great posts = no time, have time = meh posts lol.

PRIMAL: I’m sorta with Dave; feel like 1970 was a big pivotal year for the boys. Like he said the obvious effects on the live shows due to the new material they were producing did seem to elimate the “primal” element.
Yes they still could bring the big jams i.e., 72-74 Dark Stars etc, but they became more few and far between, or the focus became more on the “songs” that imho sorta culminated after the hiatus, which is why that’s not one of my favorite eras....
I dig Jim’s comment on all that energy etc. they were much more balls to the walls, full on almost metal like. Between all that energy and the thin biting or even distorted guitars we have had great fun over the years with civilians because they often don’t sound anything like the dead most folks are accustomed to. I remeber being at high school parties where us dead heads and the metalers were always not allowed inside with the jocks and preppies just like in that movie THE STONED AGE. Hee-hee, but the keg was always outside so we were good!
But anyways, we would be out there with the metalers who mostly hated the dead (only cause they were supposed to) and we’d put on first album or anthem, or occasionally someone might have some old live stuff (hard to come by back then) and they’d love that shit, at least until they found out it was the dead, then they’d have to put that negative front on.....high school, man we were ALL so dumb lol.

78; personally this is nearer the bottom of the spectrum as far as years go personally, but as I always say, there’s good stuff from every year/era etc imho.....so that’s why I’m not so big on that July box, but I do really dig that 1-28-78 Dave’s. It’s so funny how different our tastes/perspectives are here. That was one of things I miss that I really loved back in the day; arguing/discussing the shows or shows in the car after a show on the way back home or on to the next one...

SLLEEP/WEED/DREAMS; I basically don’t dream, or at least don’t recall dreaming unless I’m on the wagon (like if I have surgery coming up I’ll stop for a few weeks) and man when I do I’m exhausted all the time from all that dreaming!
Usually at first it’s all weird wild stuff too so I wake up exhausted. Funny Vguy describes indica effects totally opposite of my experiences....I like it right before bed cause it knocks me out and releases all the stress energy I’ve built up all day, where the sativa, especially a good Durban poison is like breakfast of champions in the AM. Really agreed with Jim about Weed versus alcohol; if only it was legal then and more importantly if only the culture was enlightened to the real realities etc. Weed is so over taxed and regulated especially compared to Booze and smokes, he’ll even nasty prescription drugs are more widely excepted? Yeah, huge cultural deficiency there imo.
But again, just love all the different perspectives here.

SNOW; of course it’s all relative. I remeber the first time we were in Vegas doing merch on Ziggy Marley tour February 96 I believe it was and I had driven all night from Hell A. I dont recall it was snowing but I think it had a little and many hours later they were still scraping up the carnage off the interstate etc..Coming from Southern Canada (Buffalo) we were sorta amused that such a little snow had caused so much havoc. Another time I took the bus from NY to Tennessee, 82 I think, got dropped off at the bus station in chrotchfester after a Bobby and the Midnights show and same thing, we’re in Kentucky and they had a dusting. So we’re stuck in some podunk little town and I overhear the station master and driver talking how we might have to delay etc, and I just couldn’t help but start laughing, which of course offended them until I offered to drive the bus which pissed then off more until I told them where I was from.
Well they still didn’t like me but at least they understood why I was laughing at the situation. It’s all relative.
Fast forward many years to now we live in the Rockies and average 300-400 inches a year! Few years back we received over 500”. Yeah I know, what we’re we thinking! But hey, the summers are awesome 😉

DAVES 29; man I’m digging this one. I think because like many of you have stated it’s like a hybrid 76/77 monster. Sorta a 76 on steroids. I’ve really been digging the 76 stuff I’ve had access to, partly as I’ve mentioned because of the nostalgia it’s awakened. I forgot from my early days how much I liked 76. Sometimes a bit limp or too laid back but generally nice...

Well folks should probably get back to work but miss hanging out with the cool kids. Hopefully I’ll have more time soon, as we’ll finally be moving into our new house tomorrow. Man what a long strange trip that has been, most significantly, all my stuff has been packed up for over six months so no music server!! The Horror! Been relegated to a Blu-ray player and a tv leaning up against a wall for limited cd tunes...yee-gads, talk about withdrawals, major bummer.
Wife giving me mucho shit about how I’m more excited to get my server back and all that GOGD then I am about the new house! Gotta love being a totally full on fucked for life Dead Head......think AA....my names Pedro, and I’m a dead head 😎
Anywho stay warm folks and if you get confused just listen to the music play!

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Submitted by JJ Fehmarn on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 11:17

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Picked it up this afternoon at costumers. No additonal taxes.
CDs looks fine but actually no time to check them.
Will sort it out later.
Gar-see-ya
JJ

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Submitted by Pete47 on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 12:06

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Got mine here in the UK a few days ago... this is quite a surprise! I didn't really think I needed an upgrade to 26/2 and thought I might have the "buyer's remorse" that I sometimes get with official releases, but I'm definitely hearing this with new ears today!

It's much twangier than I recall.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 12:06

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Looks so nice, I don't even want to open it....have it sitting on the shelf next to my unopened Warlocks set, fermenting nicely....thank God for Digital, but I am itching to see the inside and read the notes. Will be a nice 4th of July celebration!

Bolt etched glasses are sweet! In the freezer chillin!! Could be a little thicker, but still look great. Slightly concerned about the Stealie Logo on the bottom....looks almost stickerish....no dishwasher for sure.....

I'm on to Jimi Hendrix: Blues on vinyl....very nice follow up to primal Dead!!!

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Submitted by nitecat on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 12:35

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Hi all,

I don't post much but I really enjoy the conversations (mostly) that happens here. I get a lot of enjoyment with all the interesting things people suggest to check out, and just the clear enthusiasm for the band, which I share 100%.

I just gotta say wow this is a great release. I finished my second listen during the last few nights and I love this release. It is now easily one of my favorite releases. I love the energy the band has, the intricate weaving of the different instruments, and how sweet the mix is. I know I will go back to this show many times. Thanks to all for making it happen.

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Submitted by boblopes on Thu, 02/21/2019 - 13:20

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Just saw that Peter Tork passed, so sorry to hear. Loved The Monkees as a show as a kid, big influence in me getting into music. Rest in Peace My Friend.

Bummed Phil is waiting a few days to visit VGuy in Vegas after I leave. Vince - want to hit Steely Dan on Saturday when I get there?

Nice catch on SkyDog LP box Cousin- gonna pass, but looks like a sweet deal.

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