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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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    13 years 3 months ago
    Box #543 just arrived at its
    Box #543 just arrived at its new home in Los Angeles! Never any shipping notification or e-mails after 8/17. Hang in there, people!
  • zepthompson
    13 years 3 months ago
    just have to...
    make my own map http://www.europemapofeurope.net/Europe_map_of_Europe_northwest.htm this is a good start :D still waiting in Calif for the goods to arrive
  • latelyItOccursToMe
    13 years 3 months ago
    accouterments
    Seems a little light on the "accouterments" mentioned in the pre-order verbiage. A book, a pamphlet, and one sticker.
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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But I digress from the main theme. The Europe 72 shows were all monsters night in and night out.
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I think you're right "the demand for downloads via dead.net was not enough to justify the expense." It's because there's still too many of us (I'm one!) who feel like Legion_of_Jerry said with his ">" -- the hard-copy CD, case and notes is still perceived as "greater" than the download option, at least at the price points that were offered. The thing with "Full Show Download" was that there was no ">" -- the show was not available as a disc-set to purchase -- downloading was the only way to get it. I wish it would come back, I dug those two and still listen to them.
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Steal Your Face has pretty poor sound quality, my guess is from the out-of-phase mics they used with the Wall of Sound. I agree that Cold Rain and Snow from it is one of the best versions ever though.
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You're absolutely right. I got Steal Your Face cd the same way and I wanted a first issue cd. Sounds real good but I find myself reaching for the movie soundtrack a lot more.
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2nd greatest I always felt is fom Steppin' Out. Man, when the boys opened with that song, it's just a beautiful feeling.
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...who did not materialize. I remember a lot of gripes about downloadability (like now) back a few years ago, and next thing you know there's the Download Series, and they were complete shows too - people were also bitching about the Road Trips not being complete shows (the RT series had just started). I didn't have a broadband connection (still don't have a good one) and wasn't able to get the Download series shows at the time - good to know they're still available. Any time I have files on computer the first thing I do is burn them to disc if possible anyway. The Dead/Rhino collective seems to address customer desires when possible. If they'd just learn not to paint themselves into a corner with marketing language and "limited editions". The "music only" option is better than nothing at all - for a few days there the 7200 boxes was gonna be the "all" - and I wouldn't be surprised if "OK we'll make a music only package available but the price has to be the same" was a major compromise between two opposing camps among TPTB.
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The Download series is still available at livedownloads.com
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Us Europeans (and other non-US residents) do tend to complain about shipping costs, particularly when it is free shipping within the US. Sometimes (at first) it is obviously wrong, such as with the RT subscription. That got fixed fairly quickly. However, I just tried to order a $14.99 CD from the Little Feat online store and got the following shipping prices: USPS International $ 34.35 UPS Worldwide Expedited $ 51.77 UPS Worldwide Saver $ 65.50 Bear in mind that is for one CD. I didn't order. I contacted 'em. It will be interesting to read their explanation.
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for that link. An entertaining thread, to be sure. Makes this one look mild. I'll bet that dust-up (and the probable accompanying low financial return) had some impact on the disappearance of the idea from GDM radar. We are an ornery lot aren't we? Still, an embarrassment of riches overall...
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I counted 97 releases available for download, including the Download Series, available in MP3 and FLAC at Nugs.net. I had no idea. I thought I missed out on the Download Series. Rare Cuts and Oddities is the #3 download of the last 30 days!
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"...I was searching frantically to get Foreigner out of my head..." I know exactly what you mean, brother... I have been there many times myself.
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as previous noted, currently assigned box set order codes that haven't been used will expire at 11:59 PST, Saturday, Feb. 5, and those codes will start being reassigned to people who tried to reserve and got on the waiting list--who have also been automatically enrolled on the list for the music-only/All the Music version (see link above). Let me just encourage you in the strongest possible terms, if you have not already done so, to sign up for the Music Only Edition above, because this will get you on the list for status updates as things progress with all this and keep you informed. Thanks.
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I wonder why all four of the "View From The Vault Soundtrack" series are not on Nugs for download. Apart from those, the list looks pretty much complete.
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The shipping and handling cost to Europe are a bummer. This is a long shot but if you know any member of the U.S. military ask them if they can have it shipped to them. I lived in Ireland and Germany and U.S. soldiers in Germany pay U.S Postage rates only when having something shipped from the U.S. to their military base Post Office box, or APO (Army Post Office address). I mailed things from Germany to the U.S., and vice verse, very, very inexpensively. In fact since the 72 complete includes shipping it would not cost one Pfennig more. It is probably too late now, but for future reference . . ..
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Little Feat shipping problem resolved. I sent 'em a mail. Within 10 minutes I had a reply. They were updating their shipping charges and had not got round to adding the Netherlands. They said I should try again. I did and they had already sorted it out. USPS International Flat Rate Box for $16.00. It is still high but as far as I know the Feat online store is the only place to get their new CD. What is well noteworthy for people who come here is that this "problem" got resolved in minutes - as soon as it was brought to their attention. A lesson to be learned here?
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Alot you don't know what it is to suffer...not being able to get European tour 72 would be inhumane...and yes it would be wrong to print up 7,200 while 80,000 would be willing to pay for the set...it's a set up for price gouging...speller look it up...and we all know alot of the 7200 that were sold will never be listened to by the original purchasers so it's more of a business opportunity than a fandom opportunity...and i don't want to hear this crap about collectors...sure the stuff is nice but collectors are collectors...this isn't a collectors item this is a listening item...the kind of item you listen to everyday for 2 years or so...and beyond...so i don't want to hear another word that this shouldn't have a music only edition...we'd all rather have the replica ticket, map and book but it's not going to happen...but i'm sick of the passive talk and i don't want to hear this on my IPOD since i don't have one and don't want one...i'm a CD man who likes HD on his CD...and i like live rather than dead in the studio!
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I'm insane for live dead who else is insane for live dead??? I don't want to hear this collectors crap, what the hell does that got to do with anything where someone lives...i'm sure if we go through this computer we'll see most people live like shit...but i'm not here to judge...i'm only here to listen to the grateful dead live!
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Damn dude. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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is not good
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On February 3rd, 2011 Tony_is_dead said: "...if we were France or most European countries we would've had a revolution by now..." Dude, you've had one already and much more recently than France. Looks like you missed out on that too.
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...that I should be complaining that I did not get a Personalized edition of the box set. It will certainly cost less to NOT personalize my box set and yet I am paying the same price as those first 3000 people. Gaah! I feel so cheated.
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Wow, I didn't even know such a set was forthcoming and I've already missed it!! But I did enter my name for the music only version. As some have said before, it's about the music. I'll be very happy to be given the chance to purchase the CDs. I, too, enjoy physical CDs (and of course LPs) and prefer them over digital download formats. I really hope we get the chance to buy our own copies. I sure can't afford the abusive prices for this as listed on ebay...
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Maybe a good way to reissue the FW box would be to include it in an even larger box comprised of the Winter '69 shows thru the Hilton, 3/15. Bunches of great shows at cool venues. I think that it would be similar in size to E72 box. ??? " Where does the time go? "
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Can't wait to hear the complete Bickershaw Festival! that's my favorite show of the 72 tour. Some of my European friends who were there will definitely get a copy of the show when I get it this September.
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The download series is available through iTunes, I think, as well.
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On February 3rd, 2011 Deadicated said: Maybe a good way to reissue the FW box would be to include it in an even larger box comprised of the Winter '69 shows thru the Hilton, 3/15. Bunches of great shows at cool venues. I think that it would be similar in size to E72 box. ??? " Where does the time go? " I've hoped for an FW 69 Box reissue earlier in this thread and you are on the right track 'dedicated' with perhaps a larger 69 release rather than reissuing/ reproducing FW 69 10 cd Box which sells for obscene prices on eBay. If Dead.net does not deem it lucrative to do an expanded 1969 release than an FW reproduction could be a re release rationalized to the fan base as a "back by popular demand" 5th or 6th anniversary edition. There is more than one way to do it if it is economically feasible. The success of the Europe 72 Complete pre-order/ pre purchase "buy and we will build it' approach has great possibilities for the future as others have noted in this thread. There is just a wealth of possibilities for large scale Grateful Dead cd releases! We better start saving.
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Just sent you a PM
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if you're sending me a request to have your existing code reset because something went wrong in the ordering process, please include the code in the message you send me. This will save a bit of gratuitous back-and-forth. Thank you.
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Having noticed that the Road Trips Download: Philadelphia, Nov 5/6, 1979 is no longer available on this sight, I checked Amazon and Nugs.com and can't find it anywhere. Does anybody have a link to where this can be downloaded?
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...that a bunch of folks here sound a whole lot like Holden Caulfield.
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In 9th grade (1979) I had a confederate flag belt buckle. From the upper left corner read * L Y N Y R D and from bottom left to top right S K Y N Y R D, the N shared in the center of the X.You were not allowed to be 14 in 1979 and not love Freebird, at least where I lived. When I first heard Europe '72, Tennessee Jed specifically, I remarked how much it sounded like Lynyrd Skynyrd. I could not understand why all the Deadheads laughed. I wonder what that kid would say if his future self visited him and said, "One day, thirty years in the future, you will pay $450 for every note of this tour". Probably "get lost, you fat time travelling geezer".
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and what you say could not be more true -- except I'm not fat...well, I guess I do need that belt now though...
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Just sent you a PM about resetting my code. Thanks.
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thanks
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I know this is not the correct place to post this question, but since it is obviously, due to the importance of the Complete Europe 72 release, a post frequently visited by Deadheads, I ask it anyway. If the original 1969 Aoxomoxoa was not included in "The Golden Road" box set because the master was nowhere to be found (according to what David Lemieux said in an interview), how come it was included on the vynil box last year? I ask this because I will love to see this early mix remastered on CD one of these days. I love both mixes, but as good as the 1971 mix is, I still prefer the first one.Now, regarding the upcoming box set, what can I say? I ordered it and I simply CAN´T wait until September, I'm really anxious, it is really a dream come true for any eager Dead fan. Thanks a lot.
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I blame Ben & Jerry, Wavy Gravy (the flavor), and of course, Cherry Garcia.
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Can...Or has anyoneone used An American Express or Mastercard GIFT credit card. You know the ones you put the money on beforehand and give them as a gift. Will they work in purchasing the 72 set. HELP...I don't want to screw up my "one" chance..Thank you
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I think the Dead should reward the fans who posted here obsessively about this boxset rather than reward some EBAY Price Gouger with 10 sets than the most loyal and truest fans who don't even have an order coming to them...the arguement is where were you when it was for sale for 4 days...unbeknowest to me...i signed up for ads, junk mail, sales anything grateful dead related i signed up for except nothing came...if there's a GOD please send all the loyal fans their grateful dead 1972 european tour codes so they can promptly purchase the sets for 450$
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I don't think there was both an Abbey Road session...there was one it was very quick also remember alot of the songs were worked on for awhile like Maxwell, Octopus, Oh Darling, possibly I want you, those were worked for the let it be sessions as was some of the early beatles solo a songs from the B side were worked on for let it be sessions so Abbey Road came really quick i could check how long the sessions lasted but imagine not very long...Let it Be has been said to have 100s of hours and it's a bore...i heard some...and it's really a bore...this Dead European set is really a discovery or a real self realization....i think for many years it was discarded because they thought there's already a number of items released from this tour...but what if we released every show? I don't think anyone ever considered that before...can you consider anything else from their tours? Every show...alot of people talk about the 1980 shows when they did residencies, but would every show fly? And it's possible they'll be looking for more like this to release in the future...but not necessarily...it would be difficult to sell...this works because of all the different songs performed on this tour...and it was the last hurrah for the original grateful dead line up.
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Amen to that! Power that be please spread some code love to those loyal fans that have been prowling here in the hopes of a miracle.
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I have that one too...but i still stand behind that there's not alot of hours of Abbey Road outtakes...and you nailed it on the head that's what i heard the one with the beeps and it drove me crazy, but there's probably 200 hours of the let it be...actually Abbey Road came after Let it Be but not to the world...let it be was left in the can for the time being and resurrected when they gave the tapes to Phil Spector who beautified it with strings and added choirs along with funny ad lib lines said mostly by john...the naked version is more like the version it should've been...and you get a bonus disc of chatter...but i'll go along with you and say there's a decent release out of the 200 hours of tapes...Something and the Abbey Road it wouldn't suprise me if there's a number of takes but i don't think your going to get alot of it...other dream boxsets might be Dylan's 1965 last acoustic tour of England...or the whole 1966 tour of England as both were professionally recorded...maybe put out alot of shows from the Stones 1972 tour as that might've been recorded...don't really know though...can't really think of too many...i'm basing this on with the possibility of it being recorded pretty good...obviously the Beatles BBC sessions but alot of it was recorded off of a radio with a tape recorder...although there's EMI/APPLE issued BBC and that's very good quality...but there's alot more BBC recordings than just those unfortunately i don't think too much was saved
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i still stand behind the release 450$ is alot of money...but i stand behind the quality of that era and the shows were magnificiant, of course we're not going to talk about the 1972 european forever...and i'll give you the fact pigpen was severly declining and his replacement was already there...pigpen was coming out to do lead vocals i persume at that point and maybe didn't add that much to the shows other than a figure head of the past.
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this site is full of far too many harshly opinionated people with too much time on their hands
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You just contradicted yourself...to say there's too many people with too much time on their hands is an opinionated opinion...you can't possibly know all the facts but yet you can come on here and say that...i'll admit the conversation may have been fruitless, but you were being judgemental and opinionated...which explains why you were cast from Eden and made to live a life on earth...i bet you didn't know on other planets we call it the baby planet...but you know what spending 10 years in a company then they call you in the office and then say we saw you spitting on the floor when you didn't spit on the floor then they write you up with threats...it's all designed to get you angry so they can fire you...now that's too much time on your hands...remember this Barrack Obama loves you!!!
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nicholas it all comes down to selling your wares!!toni is dead direwulf just stated his opinion and a true one IMO! he can post what he wants! your angry babble just from one sentence reminds me of a school yard bully.there is a chat here if u 2 really want to talk about it/
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that 600 euros for a mega box full of kid stuff is too much, 600 for the music only is too much but for a period I like (1977 till 1995), well maybe....but these stories of codes and servers breaking down sound like a sick joke life is already too complicated!
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Out of print 2003 gd The Illustrated Trip 400 paged book:New mint: $160 limited edition: $600 The first 1000 w/ slipcover signed by mouse Original price: $40