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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #2361
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    All the music in the world, 90% of which I won't listen to, for 10 bucks a month sounds as good as that cable TV bill I was paying 15 bucks a month for in 1980. Was great at the time, but my cable bill is 10x the cost now, and keeps going up. Have fun with your streaming in 10 years. And besides, streaming and digital technology has killed the recording artists, and in turn, the concert scene. Piracy IS the reason the reason concert ticket sales are so high now. Artists have to make their money on the road, because there's little for them in songwriting royalties anymore. Technology killed the concert scene. What used to be a festive getaway for any who desired it is now reserved for the priveledged. And like wise Charlie said, the only CDs I buy is Limited Edition Dead CDs, and like wise KeithFan said, the fun part is opening the damn package and enjoying the artwork, the liner notes, and that great smell.

    There's no turning back from it all, but make no mistake, we're being tethered and robbed in the long con. Enjoy your financial bondage.

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    Interesting Discussion

    First.. why only ten comments per page? You blink or take a day hike and you have scroll back 10 pages to get the pulse of what's going on.

    Second.. 8-Tracks always sucked... well, they were ok for the first ten plays but on the 11th play your car or portable 8-Track player would get hungry and inevitably eat your tape. Then you realized you had to buy a really nice, expensive deck so it wouldn't eat your tapes.. you'd then get 37 listens before it got hungry and ate your tape and be out an extra $350 for a new high-end, but still shitty deck. If you were skilled.. you could somehow pull it out, bend and tuck all that extra tape back into the 8-Track cassette, but every time that part of the album came on it would sllllloooowwww dooowwwwnn where it was stretched.. then skip 10 seconds where you had to cut and splice it back together with scotch tape, etc. There is no comparing any media to 8-Tracks because they sucked that bad. As soon as my first tape was eaten, I loathed them and could not wait for a better technology. They were the first media you could play in a car, once another arrived they were gone like the dodo. Plus, album art or liner notes, forget about it. Comparing any of this to 8-tracks is like wondering why no one drives Edsels anymore.

    As for streaming.. I find it just doesnt work well for dead music. I mean, what band has 2,318 albums? Amazon Alexa, for example, has a ton of concerts on their service.. but asking 'her' for one and having 'her' return and play the show you like is next to impossible. "Alexa, Play Grateful Dead Cornell University, 5/8/77" (which is in there) and you get "mmm I can't find that, here's Donnie and Marie Paper Roses 1977 instead", said in the most polite, androgynous voice possible.

    Streaming just becomes difficult for a band with so many [albums] or shows, whatever. If it was quicker/easier to find exactly what I want, I would stream more. Perhaps tomorrow this will get better.

    Who knows. I think for deadheads, who seem to have an almost unquenchable thirst for good music.. they will stream for the convenience and buy Dave's Picks and perhaps a box set a year, so why would Rhino walk away from that extra revenue stream of the new releases from the vault? In fact, their revenue is increasing, they are not going to pull the plug just yet. Streaming is for what has already been released and all the other music you listen to, but vault releases will likely continue to be released on physical media as a niche product. ..then in a few years it will wind up on the streaming platforms.

    My two cents and I could be wrong.. I see GD listeners as being perhaps streamers and I'm going to get Dave's Picks too because I want it and it makes me happy and I want it now.

    Oh.. and Charlie3, I totally get why you live where you live and it being worth the sacrafice of being plugged in all the time. An amazing part of the world.. beautiful and lots to do. Nothing wrong with cities, but you are in big sky country, I'd take it for 15 (slow) gigs a month or whatever the limit is and speed is. Perhaps 5G will change some of this.

    So anyway.. this could be the year of the Ark. Makes sense, doesn't it. Bolo, bolo, bolo. There, said it three times.

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    Pointless progress

    There have been so many changes in format since I bought my first L.P in 1971. The move to cassettes, on to cds, on to digitally remastered cds-circa 1995, onto new digitally remastered cds this century using the latest technology. And now streaming. I am not sure what progress has been made, really. A lot of it seems, now-with the benefit of hindsight-to be a marketing ploy.
    The move from having videos, onto dvds onto blu ray seems to me to have marked progress-but a lot of improvements to consumer items is surely designed to create profit-not to improve quality.

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    Will Music Streaming Servers Survive an E.M.P.

    I too prefer hardcopy CD's. As far as I know Cd's cannot loose their data in the event of electro magnetic pulse event,
    solar event etc.

    I also preorder Dave's Picks Subscription every year for $99. Not try something stupid like try to cancel 1/2 my placed order. Just sell the extra at cost.

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    Just as an aside, my vote goes to VGuy for the slogan of the day with "You can lead a head to Winterland, but you can't lead him to his seat."

    The answer to the recurrent question of "how could I have purchased a copy of this release before it sold out?" is to SUBSCRIBE. Don't chase each Dave's Pick, subscribe and trick them into showing up at your door.

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    I get what you are saying, and you may be right about the expense issue to some extent, but let me expand on a couple of my points.

    My total data for the month through my internet provider is 15GB. For the month. I burn through that in two weeks just reading news and for work purposes. I would be seriously limited in my ability to stream or download music, let alone video, and would have to ration my listening time. That has no appeal. My phone service is also a plan with limited data, so that really doesn't change the picture. The data limitations alone mean that streaming is not really an option unless I jump up to a substantially more expensive data plan, and then pay for the streaming service on top of that. Your calculation assumes that there is no cost to data or internet access, but that is not the case for me. I would have the streaming cost, plus the cost of the additional data needed to make it worthwhile. I get this is an issue related to my geographic location, but I really like my geographic location with it's low population density and spectacular scenery. I have limited data access, but the one of the largest roadless area in the lower 48, the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness, is just across the valley, with hiking trails in every just about every drainage up and down the Bitterroot Valley and an abundance of other nearby wilderness areas in just about every direction. I am getting by without the extra data.

    As far as cost, most of what I buy at this point is limited edition dead releases, including Dave's Picks and the annual box set, that won't be available on a streaming service, so I will be stuck paying for that on disc whether or not I stream everything else. If I buy something on disc this month and go broke with unexpected expenses next month, I can listen to the music I already own without spending a dime, but with streaming I am committed to paying the monthly fee forever or I would not be able to listen to any of "my music". I would be paying for the same music month after month, most of which I already own on disc at this point. Which brings me to sunk costs. I already have a decent number of discs, since I haven't counted in a while I'll estimate about a few hundred, maybe close to a thousand. At this point I can listen to them without paying a dime, and since they represent the things that I am most likely to listen to, I would be paying to stream a lot of music that I already own on disc and can listen to for free. And to be honest, the whole streaming thing triggers some kind of atavistic luddite response for me, and I make no claim that this is necessarily a response that will seem logical to others.

    Bottom line, if you dig streaming, go for it, the future looks bright for you. If you're one of those folks who dig vinyl, good timing, it seems to have made a comeback. For me, I foresee CD's being the source of my music for the foreseeable future.

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    F**k streaming

    I have no use for it.
    Proud to be that guy.
    :O)

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    ....you had both right there! Sell one! Jeezus.....you can lead a head to Winterland, but you can't lead him to his seat.

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    I would love to experience Dave's Picks 30, but unfortunately, due to a ridiculous purchase process, I lost out. Won't go into gory details, but I got no help trying to deal with a problem (mistakenly ordered two cd's and tried to cancel one). Supposedly couldn't delete one unless I emailed a request. I did not get a response until 5 days later, and now the cd is sold out.

    Because of this, and the fact that there is such a ridiculously low number of cd's released, making it virtually impossible to purchase a cd, I will not purchase anything from Deadnet again.

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    ....yeah. About that. Been in our current house for three years. I love it, but that was one complaint I had about it. Mrs. Vguy trumped me. Now where's my sledgehammer? (a wall. Not my wife).
    ....streaming. I'm slowly accepting it. What choice do I have? Buffering sucks major ass. An exercise in futility. 😡 I dread being that guy who has a laptop/tablet in every room. Ptth.
    ❤️ Spotify....I'm not an audiophile, so it works just fine for me.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

... I “Dread the milky coming of the day” when Streaming takes over Physical Media/releases!😒 “The future's uncertain and the end is always near”...lol 🙏❤️😎
...I gave Dicks Picks #35 a full listen today, very much enjoyed this release even with some sonic anomaly difficulties, a sweet 1971 release for this Deadhead. Also finally heard Jerry Garcia’s “Electric on the Eel” boxset, first performance from August 29th 1987, Primo Audio Quality on my tubes, loving it all my brothers & sisters!
Be safe be at peace, have a grateful rest of your day. 🙏❤️😎

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Submitted by cub on Tue, 04/23/2019 - 14:58

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Well I consulted the dictionary app that came with my mac book pro. To my surprise it gave a very good explanation of all aspects of the streaming process. Since I'm an audiophile and taper I like my stuff as close to original file size and quality as possible. Of course the experience is only as good as it's weakest link. Personally I only have a handful of shows that are Mp4/ Mp3. When played at home (300 watt Adcom's / B&W floor speakers) in simple stereo they do sound less punchy than the Dead's product. Some vocals are absent. But I'm sure on a bluetooth mini-mono speaker they sound awesome. When I see those setups at parties and people rave about them, inside I'm laughing. (They remind me of the original grey Radio Shack Y adapters. The cheapest of interconnects). So with these kind of set-ups becoming more popular it's even more important to buy the 2020 Subscription the first day it's offered. After your order is secured, then activate your A.W.T.A.F. = Advance Warning Tell All Friends. I am very excited about this upcoming release. What an excellent A + set-list.

I know what Vguy is doing tonight.

I assume that 70-Sixtus is currently watching the B’s.

I’ll say go B’s on this tilt, and go Vguy Knights later tonight, but I offer no allegiances come Round 2.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Tue, 04/23/2019 - 22:49

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Absolutely brutal.

Yeah. But, try being a Red Sox fan for 50 years.

Like I said last year.

Alex Tuch. Lift that puck.

Sorry Vguy

Hey. I hate the Bruins too.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 03:30

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I didn’t stay up for that one.
4 goals in 4:01 to tie it up?
Amazing.

Funny..

Bob Weir is a big sports fan and has made numerous sports related references over the years.. the day after the 1985 World Series they premiered the song "Kansas City" at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta (the Royals won). I had a really good copy of that tape almost immediately and used to play the hell out of it.

10/28/85
Fox Theater - Atlanta, GA
Set 1:

Sugaree
Kansas City
Peggy-O
My Brother Esau
Ramble On Rose
Cassidy
Row Jimmy
Promised Land

Set 2:
Scarlet Begonias
Touch Of Grey
Man Smart-Woman Smarter
Terrapin Station
Drums
Truckin'
Smokestack Lightning
Stella Blue
Around And Around
Good Lovin'

Encore:
Day Job

"I wonder how many of you were watching TV last night.. well here we go, Kansas City, Kansas City here I come. They got some crazy little women there, I'm gonna get me one."

https://archive.org/details/gd1985-10-28.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.1058…

Those posts seemed benign enough though. A little harmless side passion never hurt anyone so long as it is kept in perspective. I typically avoid professional sports in general as I have a hard time watching (mostly football, baseball and basketball) teams hold municipalities hostage for tax funded arenas and perks. Money that in reality gets transferred from every day folks who might not even like sports to the people who seemingly need it the least. Hockey isn't that bad yet.. so I will watch an occasional game. Honestly.. even college sports has become a little corrupted. Ok.. back to your regularly scheduled drums and space.

Edit: Listening to that Miller now. Is it possible they didn't decide to play until that morning? It sounds pretty tight.. even the Bobby Slide and Jerry's lead, played simultaneously, sounded like they at least gave the arrangement some thought and practiced it a few times. Ahh.. I have never met a Peggy-O I wouldn't Marry-O. Memories, haven't listened to this show in years. Pretty good.. if 85 is your thing, but a warning.. Jerry's voice has that chasing the dragon edge, ok in some songs, not so good in others (Bramble on Rose for example).

....yeah. It still stings. One could say that should have been a two minute minor instead of a five minute major game misconduct. One could also say you don't give up four goals during said major. Or you could say both, like me. My brain hurts.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 08:38

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Thanks for the link Jim....required listening for your's truly and any KC Deadhead! Funny I was just listening to the new Albert King RSD release, "Born Under A Bad Sign", last night which features this KC classic tune!

Ah and 1985....fine year for sports if I don't say so myself. I was definitely watching game 7 that night when Brett Saberhagen & my Royals beat the Cardinals 11-0 to cap off a series in which we were down 3 games to 1. I think we were the first team ever to accomplish this feat in MLB.

Will have to finish listening to 10/28/1985 later today.....finished up 4/24/72 yesterday to keep pace in the Europe 72 march that many of us are on....

Have a GRATE day all!

KCJ

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 08:40

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That would be something.. Sponsored by Starbucks and Seattle's Best Coffee, the Seattle Caffeinators. Wonder what that would be like?

KCJanes, I was thinking of you when I remembered that show. The opening of the first set is pretty good, Sugaree, Kansas City and Peggy-O.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 09:02

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after that ridiculous Seahawks derp moment at the end of Super Bowl whatever (PASSING IN CLOSE QUARTERS WHEN MARSHAWN LYNCH IS RRRIIIIGGGGHHHHTTTT THEEEEEEEERE? RUFKM???) and the Cubs in 2003 and and and...

I will never again give sports emotional energy.

even with an NHL team coming to town.

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 10:27

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Sorry Vguy, was rooting for them Knights, but that may have been the single best period of NHL playoff hockey in history, wow! Stoltzie, I still cannot watch SB 49.

The big debate in Seattle is what will the team be named, I like Sockeyes (after the salmon species) but also Sasquatch. Metropolitans was the original Seattle team name, they were also the first American team to win the Stanley Cup (1917). The Metropolitans again made it to the 1919 cup finals but it was cancelled because of the Spanish flu epidemic after 5 games. There's the history lesson for the day. Rock on.

Truly could care less about sports, but,,,, and I think all will agree. You NEVER left a show feeling like you lost. (ok bold statement, I can see the nay sayers already) But of all the show I saw and listen to, there was always a moment that lifted me, no, not the whole show, no, not the best, but never that 'we lost' feeling.

oh, and sorry your team lost? won? In either event, the sun came up this morning,,,, yay:-)

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 11:35

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I didn't know that one was an RSD release this year. Surely one of the best blues albums-as albums-ever released. I've already got it twice on cd..but how great to have it on a prime cut weighty disc of vinyl.

I was never much good at sport when I was young. I was told that it was the taking part that mattered, not whether you won or lost. Didn't ring true then, either.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 13:04

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My copy was delivered yesterday...first time listening to this band. Really enjoyed it and will be spinning again soon. Some Zepplinesk blues roots I hear on this one. Will have to check out some other releases by Twink. I ended up scooping it up on eBay for $56.00 USD...not bad for a Double LP with really nice packaging and liner notes including a signed certificate of authenticity, by one of the band members I presume.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 14:49

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Good, I am glad you like it. I was very impressed with both the albums and their presentation... the booklet and the card signed by Twink.
As far as I know, Twink didn't make any other albums in the 60s or 70s, apart form Think Pink. He seems to have made four or five over the last few years, though. I have only got one of these. Its called "You Reached for the Stars", and its...okay.

If you were to get another album of a similar ilk, from the same era as Think Pink, then Neverneverland, by the Pink Fairies would definitely be the one to go for. It was made about two years later, with Twink on drums, and the same guitarist who is on Think Pink-Paul Rudolph. Its more of a standard rock album-but its great. You can get the cd in England quite cheaply, and it includes a few essential extras-including one of the best heavy rock singles ever made-Do It! backed by the equally thunderous "The Snake". In fact, this album has also just been re-released in a cheap box set of cds, with the two other Pink Fairies 70s albums, although Twink left after Neverneverland. No home should be without one!
I would also recommend two great psychedelic albums that Twink drummed on immediately prior to Think Pink. "Tomorrow", by Tomorrow, which has some great lead guitar playing by future Yes man Steve Howe, and the brilliant "S.F. Sorrow" by The Pretty Things.

A long post, and no Dead. There is a link, though-the Pink Fairies were apparently inspired by seeing The Dead in 1969 to have two drummers. The similarity ends there.

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Submitted by Morning Sun on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 16:16

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While you are waiting or after when you are satiated (for the moment) by upcoming DaP, I want to recommend tracking down Henry Kaiser's "The Deep Unreal", solo guitar from 2017. Spacy to throbbing, three longish pieces (22-25 minutes) and one pretty shorter one. Excellent.

I am also having a great time listening to Nels Cline. From BB&C's "The Veil" (avant-jazz/heavy guitar and sax improvs), to the beautiful Nels Cline Singers' "Insatiate" to Nels Cline's haunting solo "Coward".

One of the "B"s in BB&C is Tim Berne. For the more jazz adventurous of you, his Bloodcount group Paris concerts are intriguing.

The new Eric Dolphy 3-CD issuance "Musical Prophet".

And I always recommend looking behind the 'stars' (not that the ranking isn't probably correct) Coltrane, Davis, Monk, Mingus, Shorter, OColeman, Evans, et al., and listening to Mal Waldren, Tina Brooks, Jackie McLean, Steve Lacy, Andrew Hill, most anything bassist Richard Davis plays on.

Oh, and "Trout Mask Replica", which is the other/another side of "Anthem of the Sun".

Dennis, I know just what your saying, even a meh night of the dead always seemed like we won or were winning!
Sports on the other hand.......long time Buffalo fan is all I’ll say about that.

Vguy: I cant believe that shite....being an AVs fan I was watching/scouting the last few Knights game. Never thought the Sharks were going to win the series, though it did seem like the refs were trying to help them a bit last few games?
That was the wildest thing I think I’ve ever seen in sports...it was getting late so I was blowing through the third period on DVR high speed since the knights were up by 3 with what? about ten minutes left, thought this ones over, let’s get it on Knights versus AVs then, DOooooo, what the fug was that??......back up, start watching, ok one goal whatever, then 2, hmmmm, nah, ain’t gonna happen, then holy guacamole Batman all tied up. I’m still trying to get a grip!
Hate to see a team lose like that, whether I’m emotionally involved or not, it leaves a bad taste. I sorta get why they called that, but it sure looked like the guy just fell right in front of the oncoming guy and was just bad luck/coincidence not intentional? So lame to have that decide a Game 7.
Personally I’m sorta glad cause the sharks always choke, so for AVs sake I’d prefer the Sharks, wasn’t so keen on facing the Knights.....hang in there bra, at least you have the Dead!
Ok, now on to 4/24/72!

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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 16:58

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I haven't been over here in a while. Nice to see the boards are popping.

Just got the RSD release from the Warfield today. Giving it a spin (pun intended). It sounds really good. Sometimes these mellow, acoustic sets really hit the spot.

I've been meaning to ask folks here. Awhile back I was rolling through the Port Chester 71 shows, and I noticed at least a couple of times on different nights Bob would tell the crowd that Mickey was "under the weather" or "sorry he couldn't be here tonight". Of course that wasn't exactly the case. Were they just covering for him for the sake of the audience? Or did they not know where he was or why he took off?

Last 5:
1) 10-10-80 acoustic set (in progress)
2) 10-09-80 acoustic set
3) 03-18-71 from 30 trips
4) 4-6-82 Road Trips
5) E72 LP

Last Last 5
6) 4-14-72
7) 4-11-72
8) 4-8-72
9) 4-7-72
10) 03-18-90 (I think its 3-18? The one with a big Shakedown to start set 2)

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 17:07

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As Vguy said, they still probably should not have given up 4 goals. But had it been a 2 min penalty things might be different.

It may suck but it’s not as bad as the Sabres ‘no goal’.

Funny that years later Hull and Hasek were on the Red Wings together.

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Submitted by nitecat on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 17:24

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Looks like it was a big day for RSD, and guess who was the big seller?

This year’s Record Store Day was such a success in fact, that the sales figures from physical units sold at retail locations around the country broke records set in previous years.

According to Nielsen Music, the 12th edition of the annual music holiday resulted in the industry-wide sales of 827,000 vinyl albums sold in the United States for in the week ending on April 18th, with 673,000 of those albums sold on-site at independent record stores. If those numbers weren’t impressive enough, Record Store Day also played a role in resulting in the third-largest sales week for vinyl since Nielsen Music started tracking the sale of physical recorded music back in 1991. And who said the music industry was dying?

This year’s Record Store Day also helped to break the vinyl sales record set last year when a total of 733,000 physical units were sold throughout the week—a 12.8% increase in total.

Amazingly, The top-selling Record Store Day-exclusive release this year happened to be from the Grateful Dead, thanks to the release their archival Warfield: San Francisco, California, October 9th, 1980 / October 10th, 1980 live album. Not bad for a band which never made many headlines based on album sales and hasn’t even been around since Jerry Garcia died in 1995.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 17:40

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Go Dead!!!!

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8508474/2019-reco…

Good to see GVF in the top 5. They need to release a live album next year and move up a notch.

Top Record Store Day Exclusive Albums at Independent Record Stores
Rank, Artist, Title
1. Grateful Dead, Warfield: San Francisco, California, October 9th, 1980 / October 10th, 1980
2. Bob Dylan, Blood on the Tracks: Test Pressing
3. Green Day, Green Day Live! Woodstock 1994
4. Greta Van Fleet, From the Fires
5. Pink Floyd, A Saucerful of Secrets

So I guess we will always remember this as the day the Dead sold out and went corporate.

(kidding, of course.. was trying for a catchy phrase like Touch Heads, but this is the best I could belt out).

Great news.

I bought #1, Warfield, and it is EXCELLENT..!!!! My local record store still had a couple in stock today. I bought #2, Dylan's BOTT, but haven't given it a spin yet. I read people think the sound is not great. I also bought John Lennon's Imagine Raw. It was absolutely AMAZING...!!!!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 20:00

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Vguy,

That should have been a double minor at most. Regardless, you can't give up four goals. No excuse for that. Teams kill off 5 on 3s all the time without giving up a goal.

I feel bad for Canadaland. All three teams out in the first round. No surprise with the Leafs. They always fold. But, was hoping for the Jets to go deep again.

Looking forward to hockey in Seattle. Sockeyes would be a cool name. Steelhead too.

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Submitted by Sun King on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 20:06

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1985. my cardinals got robbed in game 6 (ironically i still hate instant replay), and then laid an egg in game 7. so i go to atlanta the next night to see the boys. it was the 1st time (of many) that ruby begonia hooked me up with tix, so we got front row smack dab in front of jerry both nights. so what does bobby do? plays kansas city blues. never have i been so depressed to hear a breakout song......

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 20:21

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....speak volumes.
Turned my attention to some '87 Eel River.
Feels good! Is good!!
Some sports fans say, "if you can't handle a kick in your balls, you're not a fan/team."
I get it....the sting.
edit... agreed. Never left a Dead show with bitter taste.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 04/24/2019 - 21:01

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1985...Don Dekinger...thank god instant replay didn’t exist back then, but you are correct, the Cardinals failed to over come the call not only in that game but also in game 7. Regardless, rest easy knowing that you got to ease some of the pain with a Dead show the next night, while I was told to be in bed 🤣lights out...

Grate story...thanks for sharing...put a smile on my face! Hopefully you at least enjoyed the rest of the show....I know I did tonight...especially the elusive My Brother Esau....shadow boxing the apocalypse, and wandering the land...

Peace all!

KCJ

Edit: and please tell more about Ruby Begonia and first times and front row tickets! Sounds like a good story brewin!

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Submitted by reijo29 on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 07:26

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I was sleeping but caught the replay the next day. That was an epic comeback. I think 5 minutes was the right call. But 4 goals scored on one PP, that is simply Vegas coming undone. Caps kind of choked last night as they had great momentum early on and should have put the Candy canes away. I'm a long suffering Rangers fan but still tune in to playoff hockey despite my team being out. Nothing quite like NHL Playoffs.

I am very much looking forward to receiving this new DaP. My annual revisiting of the Europe 72 Spring shows has me right back into a full fledged GD obsession. Was lucky to pick up all 22 shows a la carte over the years. Never has their been such a sustained run of brilliance night after night. Only wish I had a steamer trunk to store my treasures

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 07:35

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4/25/77, Capitol Theatre, Passaic NJ.. Nice Peggy-O.. silky smooth Brown Eyed Women (tremendous song) in the immortal words of jrf68.. get some.

Reijo.. completely agree. Getting the steamer trunk was like trying Grateful Dead crack for the first time.

Ok, enough of the TIGDH sidetrack, back to my regularly scheduled listening.. I'm still on Newcastle!! argh.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 08:04

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I just had to look

that dude was OUT.

robbed indeed.

again...I highly recommend avoiding sports. stuff like that can kill ya.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 08:06

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1/6/78 post-drums is HOT

and

1/7/78 post-drums is HOT

except for 1/22/78, January 78 is pretty much overlooked.

Overlook it no more, my fellow Deadheads.

That 4/24/72 Dark Star. Phew, forgot what a beast. Hell that whole show is cooking. I can see why that was the first full release. “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”, indeed....

GAME 7: “the call” more I watch it, the more I think 2 min crosscheck for original offense, Stasny’s was incidentally contact....lame. Yeah, what the hell happened to the caps last night? Up 3-1 and DOOOOOOOO!
Kinda cool there’s been so many upsets....

Speaking of (not) leaving a show with a bad taste in your mouth [see Phil's reaction to drinking the apple juice].. I didn't know this about Black Peter. I knew about the show and the mistaken alchemy & double dosing that lead to the super concentrated brew.. but not about giving birth to Black Peter. Interesting context.

https://lithub.com/on-the-50k-acid-trip-that-inspired-the-grateful-dead…

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 09:24

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You could see that one coming a mile away last night. I posted before I went to bed that they were in bad shape and woke up to see that they had lost. At least Ovechkin got to hold the Cup once.

Under normal circumstances, I don't think the refs call a major on that play. Or any penalty at all. A lot rougher plays happen every game. Seemed to be more of a awkward fall than anything else. The league used to have a rule that if blood was drawn, it was a mandatory double minor penalty. Not sure if that is still the case.

It's too bad he got hurt, but I wonder if the refs were told by the league to be on the lookout after what happened to TJ Oshie. Foegele barely nudged Oshie, but he fell oddly and broke his collarbone. That should not have been a penalty either.

I read that this is the first time since the league expanded in 1967 that all of the division winners are out in the first round. Seems odd, but I don't really like any of the remaining teams. Nevertheless, I'll watch every minute. Still the best playoff sport by far. And I'll jump on the St. Louis wagon.

Good luck to those with teams remaining and enjoy this funny read if you like.

https://deadspin.com/the-8-deadly-sins-of-the-first-round-1834285265

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:02

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Jim & Angry Jack; thanks for the interesting articles.

I knew of Burchfield, but don’t recall if I was familiar with his work. Pretty cool, sorta psychedelic, perhaps a bit dark, but heh, has me thinking. Isn’t that would good art will do?
Wish the gallery was built when I attended my alma mater....would of been a cool place to chillax and be high between classes!

Believe I’ve heard Hunter refer to this incident, not sure about Phil’s comments.....now of course I’m dying to know what show that was lol

Edit: CaseyJ, don’t be getting any ideas ; )

I concur.
This is a good one.

There are many moments of utter magnificence, and frightening scariness. But the cohesive prevails, cause just listen to the last 5 minutes or so of this one. It totally rocks out and is so tight and energetic, taking on a new personality within the song. In fact, this got me to thinking: why is it that MANY Dark Stars head off into mesmerizing, cohesive, rollicking territory so often in like the last 5 minutes of the song? It happens a lot on this tour - but also it happens on a lot of other Dark Stars. Like, the tune nearly morphs into something else entirely and it chugs along almost effortlessly. Am I just taking out my @ss here? Anyone else notice this? Its probably more of a rhetorical question than anything, but was prompted by stoltzy and oro's nods.

Carry on, Hockey Dead Freaks! (I agree, it's an exciting time)
Sixtus

P.S. Jimmy that Black Peter article = Cool. What's even cooler is that friggin' painting.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:07

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Or what a show!

Funny.. listening to the He Was a Friend of Mine and getting caught up on work as I read your post. I have heard this show before.. the last of a four night run.

Phil reflects fondly of this show in Searching For The Sound.

06/08/69
Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA

Dancin' In The Streets >
He Was A Friend Of Mine >
China Cat Sunflower >
New Potato Caboose
Me And My Uncle
Turn On Your Lovelight +
The Things I Used To Do ++
Who's Lovin' You Tonight ++
Cryptical Envelopment >
Drums >
The Other One >
Cosmic Charlie

(+) with Wayne Ceballos (vocals), without Pigpen
(++) with Elvin Bishop (guitar and vocals), without Garcia.

https://archive.org/details/gd69-06-08.sbd.cotsman.19285.sbeok.shnf/gd6…

It has become obvious to me why I cannot seem to track to the date on my E72 revisit. Squirrel! ..and unfortunately the last New Potato Caboose performed by The Grateful Dead.

Sixtus.. right on regarding the many flowing, melodic trance nature [for lack of a better word] of Dark Star. I guess they wrote and arranged it such. I was thinking the same thing about Newcastle's The Other One when I listened to it last night. Melodic bliss, not a note wasted, not a note forced.. and it's not anywhere close to the best one.

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Submitted by DeadAreMyDealers on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:13

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Great reminder of why I love this site - fascinating stuff on the Dead I would never find on my own. Thanks for that link Jim! I thought I remember hearing that one could not actually ever OD on acid, but $50k worth of hits? I'm not sure I would want to test that theory - I scared myself plenty on just the cheap stuff floating around my town.

Vguy; I think Marchessault nailed it, at least that’s the way I saw it.....

Sixtus; agree, have noticed that energy intensification as they seem to start the musical conversation of what now?
Imho, that phenomenon is some of the Dead at there best. If I have time I want to revisit soon. Wasn’t giving the full listen while working on the to do list, although sometimes I think I actually dial in better like that? But last night that really blew me away, especially part 2.....and is it me or did I hear somewhere during the show, perhaps either during D.S. or maybe Trucking jam, but I recall hearing a Throwing Stones like jam in there somewhere??

Jim; thanks for jump stating the neurons, I thought that story sounded familiar. Need to reread Phil’s book.
Need to check that show out too, thanks for the research.

Deadaremydealer: can’t even imagine, and I’m guessing that was some Owsley or something “primo” as L.M.G. would say : )

Poor Hunter, I can recall at least one other similar Hunter story where he ended up with China Doll, unless I’m mixing up my stories and it was the same event? Seems the boy stepped in it a few times poor bastard, but hey, look at those amazing songs he got out of it....

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 10:46

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FYI - This is the painting referenced in the article that reminds him of Black Peter.. not the one shown.

The one shown in the article does sort of visually hint at an acid trip where one might have "experienced every assassination he knew of."

Finishing up that show now, Phil seems to done a fine job, all things considered.

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/32974

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 04/25/2019 - 15:03

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...best selling of RSD 2019, the Grateful Dead - ‘Live at the Warfield’ !
Congrats to The Grateful Dead & deadheads for making all this possible !!! 🙏❤️😎 Primo! Rock on my brothers and sisters, peace be with you all.

I’m a day behind in my annual E 72 trip but all caught up now after taking in 4/24. That Dark Star is really something. And definitely heavy on the dissonance. Funny how they gallop into me and my uncle In the middle of all that weirdness. I often wonder what the foreign crowd waa thinking as they tagged along on that ride. Some serious boundary stretching. And yes the band cohesion in that rocking ending ensures a successful return to planet Earth’s familiar atmosphere. No easy task for that space ship to get back home safely.

And a shout out to Angry Jack Straw for sharing that entertaining Dead Spin opening round NHL link. Great read.

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